[LUTE] Re: Naughty songs (was: prostitution)

2018-08-10 Thread Paolo Busato

I know of a 'Trinkkanon' by Mozart: This is the text (in German of course!):

Freunde, lasset uns beim Zechen
wacker eine Lanze brechen!
Es leb' der Wein,
die Liebste mein!
Drauf leer' sein Gläschen jeder aus.
Mit euch ist gar nichts anzufangen,
da sitzt ihr still wie Hopfenstangen.
Sie lebe hoch!
So schreiet doch!
Sie lebe hoch!
So schreiet doch,
so schreiet doch!
Seid ihr wie Stockfisch denn geworden stumm,
seid ihr wie Stockfisch denn geworden stumm?
So schreit, so schreit, so schreit,
ihr Esel, doch, seid nicht so dumm!
Es leb' die Liebe und der Wein!
Was könnt' auf Erden Schön'res sein?
Vivat, vivat, vivat,
sie lebe hoch!

Paolo

Paolo Busato
Lute-maker


Il 10/08/2018 18:27, howard posner ha scritto:

On Aug 10, 2018, at 2:37 AM, Alain Veylit  wrote:

Just curious: did Mozart compose anything we'd consider "bawdy" or tavern 
material??

I don’t know about tavern, but there’s plenty of Mozart that’s not fit for 
church.  Mozart’s “naughty” humor tended toward the juvenile: buttocks, 
excrement, flatulence.  It has led to some talk about his being stunted in his 
emotional/sexual development, but to be fair, the whole Mozart family, 
including his mother, seemed inclined toward that sort of humor, as evidenced 
by their letters.

Bona Nox (K. 561), for example, ends with:

gute Nacht, gute Nacht,
scheiß ins Bett daß' kracht;
gute Nacht, schlaf fei g'sund
und reck' den Arsch zum Mund.

You might want to look up this 1967 recording by the Norman Luboff choir, with 
Igor Kipnis, no less, at the harpsichord:
Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart Is A Dirty Old Man (The Scatological Canons And Songs 
Sung In English)

https://www.discogs.com/Norman-Luboff-Igor-Kipnis-Wolfgang-Amadeus-Mozart-Is-A-Dirty-Old-Man-The-Scatological-Canons-And-Son/release/2945663

I wouldn’t actually try to listen to it, because Luboff sanitized the 
translations, but the website does provide a sort of reference to Mozart’s 
off-color songs.   Like Purcell’s, they often take canonic form.



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[LUTE] Re: Arciliuto, Matteo Sellas, Venezia 1639

2017-08-09 Thread Paolo Busato
   Hello Jerzy,

   The Germanisches National Museum sells the drawing of that instrument.
   Please find it at:

   [1]http://www.gnm.de/fileadmin/redakteure/Museum/pdf/gnm_tz_roentgen.pd
   f

   in the Appendix: "Aus dem Besitz des Museo Civico Medievale in Bologna"
   "Arciliuto (8x1/5x2+1 Saiten; 134/63,5 cm), Matteo Sellas, Venedig
   1639. Ver-schiedene Details, Berippung, keine Deckenstärken. 209  x
   104  cm".

   Best wishes,

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   Il 09/08/2017 20:48, Jerzy Zak ha scritto:

Dear All,

Where to get from a working drawing of the Arciliuto by Matteo Sellas, Venezia 1
639, Cat. 104 - Inv. 1748?

Thanks in advance,
Jerzy
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[LUTE] Re: Sarabande in g minor

2016-12-03 Thread Paolo Busato
   Hi John,

   You can find that Sarabande here:

   [1]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/60516846/Partitions_pour_luth_ba
   roque/Musiques/Les_manuscrits/Londres/Fac-similes/Lbl/Lbl030_015v.jpg

   Best wishes,

   Paolo

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   Il 03/12/2016 13:20, John Yentes ha scritto:

   Hello all,
   Can anyone help me find tablature for this particular piece?
   It is the first Sarabande listed in this link :
   [1][3]http://www.slweiss.de/index.php?mov=Sar&key=g&id=3&type=worklist&lan
   g=eng&st=0&lang=eng&inc=2
   I have been searching for this for some time.   I believe it is from
   the London Manuscript.   Any help would be greatly appreciated.
   John

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[LUTE] Re: Vivaldi lute concerto

2016-10-10 Thread Paolo Busato
   Am I wrong or in the first movement, sixth bar, second beat "piano",
   they play on the downbeat instead of playing on the upbeat (as also did
   J. Bream on an old recording)?

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   Il 10/10/2016 17:44, Edward Martin ha scritto:

   I have performed this concerto in the past, a few times.   Firstly, I
   observed his fingerings, and it is apparent that he is playing in C -
   major.   The composition is in D - major, so I think the ensemble
   recorded it a step down from how it was actually composed.
   Actually those fingerings are easier in C major than in D major.   I
   once performed it with an ensemble in D major, but used an alto lute in
   "a", so it had the same relative tuning as he used.

   On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 10:14 AM, Ron Andrico
   [2]<[1]praelu...@hotmail.com> wrote:

The only bit of opinion in my previous message was that I thought
 Luca
Pianca's performance was musical.   The rest is supported by
 factual
information.
  
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From: Matthew Daillie [3]<[2]dail...@club-internet.fr>
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2016 3:11 PM
To: Ron Andrico
Cc: fournierbru; [[4]3]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: Vivaldi lute concerto

  I'm not in the least bit surprised that our opinions and tastes
   differ
  Ron.
  Matthew
  > On Oct 10, 2016, at 16:51, Ron Andrico [5]<[4]praelu...@hotmail.com>
   wrote:
  >
  >Hmm...Historically-informed must have taken on a different
   meaning
  >while I wasn't paying attention.   I should think Luca Pianca
   and
  his
  >Italian compatriots might have a bit more of a secure
   connection
  with
  >Vivaldi's music than the American's you name.   O'Dette
   recorded
  this
  >music with a silly little chirpy mandolino playing with a
   rather
  stiff
  >sounding band.   McFarlane's interpretation is vibrant and
   lovely
  but
  >what we hear in this video with Luca Pianca has everything to
   do
  with a
  >microphone placement that allows the lute to be heard above the
  rest of
  >the band, as is certainly the case in the other recordings
  mentioned.
  >As far as I can tell, single stringing was sometimes used by
   the
  old
  >ones but Luca Pianca's hand position is definitely
  >historically-accurate for Vivaldi's era.   The under thumb
   approach
  >ceased to exist with the advent of many additional basses,
   circa
  1600,
  >and those who use that hand position in baroque music today are
  >not using an historically-informed approach.   So unless
  >historically-informed now has something to do with microphone
  >placement, I think the video example is compelling and musical.
  >
  >RA
  >
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  >
  >From: [[6]5]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu
   [7]<[6]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu> on
  behalf
  >of Matthew Daillie [8]<[7]dail...@club-internet.fr>
  >Sent: Monday, October 10, 2016 1:54 PM
  >To: fournierbru; [[9]8]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
  >Subject: [LUTE] Re: Vivaldi lute concerto
  >
  >>On 10/10/2016 15:29, fournierbru wrote:
  >> Hello all
  >>
  >> I would like your opinions on this interpretation of the
   Vivaldu
  >lute
  >> concerto I found on YouTube.
  >>
  >> [1][9][10]https://youtu.be/u9m3ghjN0RE
  >[2][maxresdefault.jpg]
  >[3]Vivaldi - Lute Concerto in D major, RV 93 - Il Giardino
   Armonico
  >[10]youtu.be
  >Antonio Vivaldi Lute Concerto in D major, RV 93 1 Allegro 2
   Largo 3
  >Allegro Luca Pianca, lute Il Giardino Armonico
  >>
 

[LUTE] Re: Kapsberger Toccata arpeggiata

2016-09-19 Thread Paolo Busato
   Some SPES books (including Kapsberger's) are still available here:

   [1]http://www.omifacsimiles.com/cats/spes.html

   Paolo

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   Il 19/09/2016 15:08, David van Ooijen ha scritto:

   SPES is (was, says Mathew, oh no,  that's sad news!) a publisher of
   beautiful and affordable facsimile editions of early music. They have
   (had) many books of lute music in their catalogue, some bundled in a
   box. Like the three books by Kapsberger mentioned.

   David
   On Monday, 19 September 2016, Katalin Koltai
   [3]<[1]katalinkol...@gmail.com> wrote:

   Dear David
   Thank you so much.
   Get the box from SPES means..?

   David van Ooijen [4]<[2]davidvanooi...@gmail.com> (idAApont: 2016. szept.
   19., H, 14:48) ezt Arta:

Dear   Katalin
Libro Primo D'Intavolatura di Chitarone (Venzia,1604) has the
 famous
Toccata Arpeggiata by Kapsberger. Get the box from SPES   and you
 can
play the whole book, as well as the libro primo for lute and the
 libro
 quarto for Chitarone. Should keep you busy for a while.
David
On Monday, 19 September 2016, Katalin Koltai
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 Dear All
 I would like to learn Kapsberger Toccata arpeggiata.
 What is the original source?
 Can some of you give me the music score/tabulature?
 Also, I am interested to learn more solo music for theorbo
 and
 archlute, so if any of you have suggestions for me, I would
 be
  very
 grateful.
 Thank you on advance.
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[LUTE] Re: Another lute picture?

2015-11-24 Thread Paolo Busato
   Or could be the result of scraping the sounboard wood flush with the
   fingerboard after the top has been glued back following a repair work.
   It can happen when the top is not clamped properly.
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   Il 24/11/2015 16:27, Christopher Wilke ha scritto:

   Also, regarding the wear marks: the contact points on modern lutes are
   darker than the rest of the top from accumulated oils and dirt. Those
   in the painting are lighter than the surrounding belly. Could the top
   have been varnished so that the marks are revealing bare wood?

   Chris
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   On Tuesday, November 24, 2015, 9:49 AM, William Brohinsky
   [2] wrote:

 So what do I know? the top of the bass extension appears to have at
 least two pegs mounted perpendicular to the others, coming out of or
 going behind the plane of the neck. If there are three arranged that
 way, it would account for all 9 string.
 To me, it looks like two strings on the lute are broken, and someone,
 the Lady, perhaps, has gathered the loose lengths up and tucked them
 under the string plane to keep them out of the way.
 Many portraits of this era made use of allegory: perhaps the artist
   was
 aware of, and painted into the picture, his assessment of the
   couple's
 relationship, the lady's pre-occupied look to the heavens and her
 instrument's broken strings being connected and a statement upon
   either
 her fidelity or comfort with her portrait-sharing partner?
 If I were asked to sit for a portrait with such an instrument, and
 told, by the artist, to sit on the right side of the other person, I
 would, politely and inappropriately-for-playing, rotate the lute in
   my
 lap to stick the neck off to the left. So I don't take any hints of
 handedness of the picture from that. The broken strings, the
 inattention or even ennui on her face, and the dog add up to
   unmusical
 indications of the Lady's status in the eyes of the painter, though.
 ray
 On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 8:53 AM, Martyn Hodgson
 [3]<[1][2]hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
   Dear Gary,
   I do agree: this is why I suggested that 'In short, the very
   act
   of
   posing for the picture was
   the statement rather than the playing of music'.
   regards,
   Martyn
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   To: Martyn Hodgson [5]<[3][4]hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk>
   Cc: David Van Edwards [6]<[4][5]da...@vanedwards.co.uk>;
   [7]"[5][6]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu"
   [8]<[6][7]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>
   Sent: Tuesday, 24 November 2015, 13:19
   Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: Another lute picture?
 Martyn,
 There seems to be an inside joke we're not privy to here. It may
 just
 be that the artist liked the 90 degree angle created by the 2
 instruments when held this way. And/or if she held it in the
   normal
 position she would have risked obscuring the man's face and
   throwing
 off the composition.But look at the dog: he/she doesn't seem to
   be
 enjoying the lute playing and the reaction is aimed pointedly at
   the
 lute player. Something important is happening there.
 This borders on parody, seen apparently from the point of view of
 the
 male gamba player, who looks directly at us. Subtle; but barely .
   .
 .
 It seems to me to be a joke on the woman, whether or not she was
 "in"
 on it.
 Gary
 On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 6:14 AM, Martyn Hodgson
 [9]<[1][7][8]hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
 Very interesting David.
 It may be simply a fashionable couple wanting to be portrayed
 performing but in fact unable to play a note! Perhaps the
 painter
   who,
 as you point o

[LUTE] Re: those Pegheadz!

2014-08-04 Thread Paolo Busato
   ... If Ben Hur would have been having a Ferrari engine ;-)
   Best,
   Paolo

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   Il 04/08/2014 22:16, David van Ooijen ha scritto:

   Jam the gears and dope the pegheads. ;-)
   Re extended/modern techniques on early instruments:
   When you see the Buddha on the road, kill him. (But it takes Buddha to
   do so.) Iaw, when you want to make your own school of lute playing,
   find your own voice, write your own music and generally are not
   interested in finding out about how to play Francesco, Dowland or
   Weiss, please go ahead.
   But if If you want to play Weiss et al, try and figure out how Weiss
   played. If Weiss would have had a guitar/guitar-lute/used another
   technique on his B-lute, played with nails, no-pinky, above the rose,
   whatever, he would have written different music. Same argument with 'if
   Bach would have a Steinway he would have loved it'. Sure he would have
   loved it, who knows? But he certainly would have written different
   music. The instrument you have, its shortcomings and strong point, and
   the way you play it, what kind of tone production you favour, will
   influence the music you write for it. This is not an argument about
   what way is the best, but about what your goal in playing lute is. No
   argument there.
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   On 4 August 2014 20:56, Dan Winheld [2]<[3]dwinh...@lmi.net> wrote:

 I hate them on my own instrument because it came with them & I'm
 stuck with them. Dan Larson installed them. It was a prototype; not
 a built-to-order instrument, and I was damned lucky to get it.
 Everything south of the pegbox is the best Renaissance lute I've
 ever played or owned- but those abominable, Satanic Frankenpeg
 things slip a lot & need to be jammed in with great force to hold
 (while taking care not tear off the pegbox). Since this first lute
 was built, the pegs themselves- as well as Dan's skill at
 installing- them have improved exponentially. I would not consider
 getting an Orpharion or Bandora without them, but I still wouldn't
 order them for any kind of lute.
 A I have a couple of the guitar cranky things, they do work on the
 lute pegs as well as on my guitars tuners, but it's still much, much
 more troublesome to change a string compared popping out a regular
 peg. Not a big deal except for the 1st course, even synthetics are
 the ones that go the most frequently. I may change over just that
 one peg to a traditional, real peg if I can get someone to redo the
 holes to accommodate a normal peg.
 Dan

   On 8/4/2014 11:06 AM, Tobiah wrote:

 On 08/04/2014 10:56 AM, Dan Winheld wrote:

 I only hate them on my own instrument. On all the others I've tried,
 including one of my Baroque lute student's new Larson Burkholtzer
 copy, I grudgingly admit that they are fabulous. Until you have to
 change a string. :-D

 Right. A I have a little crank designed to help with changing
 strings
 on a guitar. A You slide it over the little tuning handle and crank
 away. A It goes pretty quickly. A  Are you saying you hate them on
 your own instrument and so you don't install them, or that you have
 them and hate them, but only on your instrument?

 On 8/4/2014 10:44 AM, Edward Martin wrote:

 aYes, Nancy is correct. A I do use pegheds on my 11-course baroque
 lute, and my vihuela as well. A They are absolutely marvelous, a
 new revelation in tuning. A One can tune easily, more accurately
 than before, and much quicker. A a
 On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 12:25 PM, Nancy Carlin
 [3]<[1][4]na...@nancycarlinassociates.com> wrote:
 About the pegs - guitar tuning pegs would be so heavy that the
 instruments would be listing toward the left in our laps.
 Fortunately the Peghead people have pegs that works well on lutes,
 vihuelas and orpharions. [2][5][4]http://www.pegheds.com/ I have peg
 heads on one of my orpharions and love them. They look like regular
 lute pegs and the tuning is a dream. A They are especiall

[LUTE] Correct link...

2014-02-10 Thread Paolo Busato
   ...if someone is interested in:
   [1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?vjItqGZ0zJs
   P.

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[LUTE] Re: And, to reiterate

2014-02-10 Thread Paolo Busato
   Here is my video on tying gut frets.
   [1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?vjItqGZ0zJs
   Best,
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   Il 10/02/2014 19:37, WALSH STUART ha scritto:

 .  But the best thing to do is simply replace the fret. Soldering
 iron is safest/easiest/best.
 M

 I just can't sort out how to tie a gut fret. I've tried many times
 and kind people have tried to show me how to do it. I'm also certain
 that I am not alone in this.
 Loose frets are a nightmare for me. I have bits of wood as wedges
 and copious amounts of masking tape to try to stop (newish - not
 worn out) frets from moving.
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[LUTE] Re: Portrait of William Lawes holding a lute

2013-07-28 Thread Paolo Busato
   The picture is located in the Royal Academy of Music, London.
   Best,
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   Il 28/07/2013 13:26, David Van Edwards ha scritto:

Dear Bill,

Thanks very much for alerting us to that. No, I don't know the
picture at all and I notice that the first question in the comments
section is asking where it is. No answer as yet, maybe he will
respond later.

There is also the conjecture which Lynda Sayce put forward that his
"theorbo", which was destroyed after being kept until the 19th
century in an Oxford college, was in fact, like Pepys,' a 12 course
double header, of either sort. And this picture *could* be consistent
with either of those. So possibly you're again up with the zeitgeist
in building your extended neck double-header!

On that design, it is noticeable that there are many more of them in
French iconography than of the English/Netherlandish curly pegbox
sort and that they do die out pretty quickly. So maybe Mary Burwell
tutor is referring to that sort when it talks of the French taking
them up and then dropping them. True it refers to Gaultier having
invented the form and we have the engraving of Gaultier holding the
curly sort but it is at least conceivable that he actually "invented"
the straight form while still in France and then later in England
taking up or "inventing" the curly form with its stepped basses.
Certainly the Burwell tutor's disparagement of "them long basses"
fits rather more with the straight form, several of which are shown
with really quite long basses. As indeed has the Rauwolf survivor in
Copenhagen.

Best wishes,

David


At 09:19 +0100 28/7/13, William Samson wrote:

   Hi,

   In today's Telegraph (I hope those of you from outside the UK will be
   able to access this link!) there's an article about Lawes and his music
   and it's accompanied by a portrait of him that I've never seen before
   now.

   [1][3]http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/music/classical-music-guide/10199
   855/Ivan-Hewetts-Classic-50-No-31-William-Lawes-Fantazy-from-Consort-Se
   tt-a-6-in-F.html

   I would guess it's  a 10-course instrument, but it's impossible to tell
   from the image.

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[LUTE] Re: Aquila Nylgut Problems

2013-06-13 Thread Paolo Busato

Dear all,

I alredy posted the solution three months ago. Mimmo Peruffo suggests to dip 
the string(s) in boiling water for 20 seconds (it worked for me at least).


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  From: R. Mattes 
  To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
  Sent: Thursday, 13 June 2013, 14:36
  Subject: [LUTE] Aquila Nylgut Problems
  Dear collected lute list wisdom,
  I just tried to switch my (late) medieval lute from
  all gut to all nylgut, everything fine, except: the top
  strings (63cm / g' @ 440 Hz - using 0.42mm) can't be put up to full
  tension.
  Both strings imediately break directly at the bridge. Strangely
  the aren't even close to their breaking point (at least they still
  feel quite elsatic). Bridge design can't be the problem - the
  bridge is rather soft and well worn out (and I never had a broken
  top at the bridge, even in much thinner gut).
  Is this a known problem. Did I get samples from a bad batch?
  TIA Ralf Mattes
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[LUTE] Re: Aquila

2013-03-08 Thread Paolo Busato
Mimmo Peruffo suggests to dip the string(s) in boiling water for 20 seconds 
to avoid that problem.


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- Original Message - 
From: "Bruno Correia" 

To: "List LUTELIST" 
Sent: Friday, March 08, 2013 3:48 PM
Subject: [LUTE] Aquila



  Has anybody had problems with NNG placed on the chanterelle? Since I
  started using this new version, the chanterelle snaps very often - it
  doesn't break, simply snaps. My student is complaining about the same
  thing, it doesn't stay in place. I never had such problems with the
  white version.



  Any thoughts?
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[LUTE] Re: Best Body Frets?

2012-09-26 Thread Paolo Busato


That short fret recalls me of an African instrument, the Malagasy Kabosy. 
See here:


http://www.boutique.laterit.fr/img/p/69-279-thickbox.jpg

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To: "Paolo Busato" 
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 9:11 PM
Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: Best Body Frets?


I know- that's bothered me for years. Diatonic fretting for the 1st 
course? -But that would only make sense going from 10-f to 12-g. The last 
fret that I broke- which prompted me to start this whole thread- was a 
piece off the end of the 11th, permitting only such diatonic fretting at 
that spot. Shame that I require the f# as well. The frets in Costa's 
painting look entirely too elegant & symmetrical to be a broken fret such 
as mine.


Dan

On 9/26/2012 11:35 AM, Paolo Busato wrote:
Strangely enough the lute in the Costa's painting has eleven frets 
(instead of twelve) and the tenth fret "covers" only the 2nd, 3rd and 4th 
course.


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Subject: [LUTE] Re: Best Body Frets?



William,

While body frets were certainly not standard (Francesco was just one 
player known for going above the frets, as not doubt was Pietro Bono and 
others) , they were an option going as far back as the late 15 Century- 
see Lorenzo Costa's "Concert", ca. 1485-95, National Gallery, London. 3 
ebony looking frets right there on the 5 course lute.


Anyway, Not quite the point of my question. Been there, done that. My 
six course lute was body fretless for decades, and I had zero trouble 
nailing the notes with perfect intonation, after some practice. In fact, 
I have a new student who is a violinist. He almost can't stand ANY of 
the frets- neck and body- interfering with his ability to get the 
perfect intonation he is used to, and accomplishes very easily by 
touch/hearing. At least as beginner, he finds them very difficult.


But the necessity of clear, defined singing tone for those last 3, 4, or 
more semitones takes precedence in the music I am playing on these days. 
Which is why I put them on my eight course lute, which I was playing 
without body frets for the first 6 months after I got it-  and yes, it 
is great practice. But the freedom to get really get accurate intonation 
was trumped but the need for more clearly defined tone. A pity, really, 
as the 12th fret requires some tricky slanting to get the octave "n" in 
perfect tune from the first down to the 4th course, then others take 
their position cues from that fret. And they are not all perfect- 
compromising happens.


17th century French practice is not 18th century German practice. While 
Dowland mentions ten tied frets in addition to body frets, 9 seems to 
have been standard and sufficient for the French virtuosos, but Weiss 
has you going right up to the octave, and there seem to be quite a 
number of late swan neck lutes with 14 total frets.


Sam- I wouldn't use that double sticky tape for more than temporary 
position exploring. I thought it was the cat's pajamas myself for a few 
weeks, then they started getting knocked around, and the sound (on my 
lute, of course!) was markedly inferior to properly glued frets. The 
tape layer that carries the glue creates a barrier to proper sound 
transmission- already compromise

[LUTE] Re: Best Body Frets?

2012-09-26 Thread Paolo Busato
Strangely enough the lute in the Costa's painting has eleven frets (instead 
of twelve) and the tenth fret "covers" only the 2nd, 3rd and 4th course.


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Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 5:53 PM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Best Body Frets?



William,

While body frets were certainly not standard (Francesco was just one 
player known for going above the frets, as not doubt was Pietro Bono and 
others) , they were an option going as far back as the late 15 Century- 
see Lorenzo Costa's "Concert", ca. 1485-95, National Gallery, London. 3 
ebony looking frets right there on the 5 course lute.


Anyway, Not quite the point of my question. Been there, done that. My six 
course lute was body fretless for decades, and I had zero trouble nailing 
the notes with perfect intonation, after some practice. In fact, I have a 
new student who is a violinist. He almost can't stand ANY of the frets- 
neck and body- interfering with his ability to get the perfect intonation 
he is used to, and accomplishes very easily by touch/hearing. At least as 
beginner, he finds them very difficult.


But the necessity of clear, defined singing tone for those last 3, 4, or 
more semitones takes precedence in the music I am playing on these days. 
Which is why I put them on my eight course lute, which I was playing 
without body frets for the first 6 months after I got it-  and yes, it is 
great practice. But the freedom to get really get accurate intonation was 
trumped but the need for more clearly defined tone. A pity, really, as the 
12th fret requires some tricky slanting to get the octave "n" in perfect 
tune from the first down to the 4th course, then others take their 
position cues from that fret. And they are not all perfect- compromising 
happens.


17th century French practice is not 18th century German practice. While 
Dowland mentions ten tied frets in addition to body frets, 9 seems to have 
been standard and sufficient for the French virtuosos, but Weiss has you 
going right up to the octave, and there seem to be quite a number of late 
swan neck lutes with 14 total frets.


Sam- I wouldn't use that double sticky tape for more than temporary 
position exploring. I thought it was the cat's pajamas myself for a few 
weeks, then they started getting knocked around, and the sound (on my 
lute, of course!) was markedly inferior to properly glued frets. The tape 
layer that carries the glue creates a barrier to proper sound 
transmission- already compromised the further up you go- and makes fret 
thickness sizing more troublesome. Just my experience.


Dan



On 9/26/2012 12:26 AM, William Samson wrote:

What nobody has mentioned yet is that body frets, while not unknown,
were comparatively rare back in the day.  There's a brief mention of
them in 'Varietie' and only a few paintings show evidence of their
use.  Accurate stopping of the string on the soundboard might well 
have
been the norm - and of course a 'singing' tone would be out.  I 
suspect

the reason people want them is that Dowland used fret positions right
up to the 12th, and of course all the Bream recordings that lurk at 
the

back of many players' minds have a wonderful sustained tone on these
notes.  Would Dowland himself have used them or would they be 
regarded

as a crutch for amateur performers who couldn't stop the string
accurately - a bit like some learning violinists use tied-on frets?

After the longer-necked lutes of the early 17th century came along
(neck/body join at around the 10th fret usually) you have to look 
hard
to find pieces that use notes above the 10th fret, for the rest of 
that

century.

Bill
From: Dan Winheld 
To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Wednesday, 26 September 2012, 0:37
Subject: [LUTE] Best Body Frets?
A question tossed onto the waves of this Ocean of Lute Wisdom-
Any consensus regarding the best material for body frets? My woodies
often sound a little too "woody"- they are some light colored wood, 
no

  

[LUTE] Re: Journey in D minor, for lute by Matthew Leigh Embleton

2012-07-19 Thread Paolo Busato

Maybe this one?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-MsUyAOeU0

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Subject: [LUTE] Re: Journey in D minor, for lute by Matthew Leigh Embleton



  I'm making a pig's ear of this! Here it is:
  [1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?vPXr1eLDNXk
  Stuart

  On 19 July 2012 21:43, WALSH STUART <[2]s.wa...@ntlworld.com> wrote:

 And now the amended URL!

   [1][3]http://www.youtube.com/watch?vPXr1eLDNXk
   Stuart
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 [3][5]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oP2Mt4AHgE
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[LUTE] Re: 4060

2012-04-25 Thread Paolo Busato

I think it works like this:

Click on "Werkzeugkasten" then on "Zusatzfunktionen" and then on PDF 
download. There are three ways of downloading.


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Subject: [LUTE] Re: 4060



   Rainer,
Thanks for bringing it to our attention. Any way to download the
  whole thing?
  Chris
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From: Rainer 
Subject: [LUTE] 4060
To: "Lute net" 
Date: Wednesday, April 25, 2012, 3:07 PM

  Dear lute netters,
  I have no idea if this is new:
  MS 4060 (750 pages) is on-line.
  See
  [1]http://resolver.staatsbibliothek-berlin.de/SBB78A3
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[LUTE] Re: Tsunami

2011-03-11 Thread Paolo Busato

I got a message from Mr. Kakinami in the late evening (Japan time). He's ok.

Best,

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To: 
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Subject: [LUTE] Re: Tsunami



Kakinami-san wa daijoubu desu ka?

David

On 11 March 2011 17:58, Daniel Winheld  wrote:

News about our Japanese friends & connections? Some of our members
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[LUTE] Re: How to make a lute in five minutes

2010-12-06 Thread Paolo Busato

Yes indeed!
P.

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From: "wikla" 

To: "Paolo Busato" 
Cc: "Lute List" 
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 12:15 PM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: How to make a lute in five minutes



You mean this

 http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/wikla/mus/Mdieffo1608/jan03_3.html

That's my Tieffenbrucker under construction in 2003.

Arto


On Mon, 6 Dec 2010 12:05:39 +0100, "Paolo Busato" 
wrote:

Thank you Martin! Instead I'm thinking of the 51 ribbed Tieffenbrucker
theorbo in the time of the 4th piece for little orchestra by A. Webern
(less
than 30"!) :^

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Thanks, Paolo, that's lovely.  But I do wonder if it's a competition -
what next?  A 35-rib theorbo in the time it takes to play Mrs Winter's
Jump?  I'm working on it

Martin

On 05/12/2010 21:32, Paolo Busato wrote:

Dear all,

This is my contribution to the topic. Two lute bowls in one minute
(background music played by Jacopo Gianninoto):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exfQ10SUIrk

Enjoy!

Paolo Busato lute-maker
www.busatolutes.com


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- Original Message - From: "Martin Shepherd"

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Subject: [LUTE] How to make a lute in five minutes



 (with a little help from Francis Cutting):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMBMGRcRbG0

and considerable hindrance from Windows Movie Maker.

Lots of questions about how to do "proper video" coming up


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[LUTE] Re: How to make a lute in five minutes

2010-12-06 Thread Paolo Busato
Thank you Martin! Instead I'm thinking of the 51 ribbed Tieffenbrucker 
theorbo in the time of the 4th piece for little orchestra by A. Webern (less 
than 30"!) :^))))


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Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 11:32 AM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: How to make a lute in five minutes


Thanks, Paolo, that's lovely.  But I do wonder if it's a competition - 
what next?  A 35-rib theorbo in the time it takes to play Mrs Winter's 
Jump?  I'm working on it


Martin

On 05/12/2010 21:32, Paolo Busato wrote:

Dear all,

This is my contribution to the topic. Two lute bowls in one minute 
(background music played by Jacopo Gianninoto):


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exfQ10SUIrk

Enjoy!

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Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2010 11:03 AM
Subject: [LUTE] How to make a lute in five minutes



 (with a little help from Francis Cutting):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMBMGRcRbG0

and considerable hindrance from Windows Movie Maker.

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[LUTE] Re: How to make a lute in five minutes

2010-12-05 Thread Paolo Busato

Dear all,

This is my contribution to the topic. Two lute bowls in one minute 
(background music played by Jacopo Gianninoto):


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exfQ10SUIrk

Enjoy!

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Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2010 11:03 AM
Subject: [LUTE] How to make a lute in five minutes



 (with a little help from Francis Cutting):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMBMGRcRbG0

and considerable hindrance from Windows Movie Maker.

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[LUTE] Re: fret tying help

2010-11-27 Thread Paolo Busato

Hello everyone,

I made a short video (16 MB anyway) on how I fasten gut frets:

http://www.busatolutes.com/Video%201.flv

Enjoy!

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Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2010 11:54 AM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: fret tying help



  I replaced some of mine for the first time a couple of months ago
  without any problem :) , using the instructions including photos here:
  [1]http://www.wadsworth-lutes.co.uk/frets.htm.  The soldering iron
  worked well for me - I don't have a lighter and matches seemed a bit
  scary
  Meg

  On 25 November 2010 03:39, Suzanne Angevine
  <[2]suzanne.angev...@gmail.com> wrote:

Thanks to all who contributed to this thread.  In quite a few places
I encountered descriptions of this simple knot, and it was what I
was attempting to use.
My first observation is that all you who have done this a bunch
don't remember how hard it was at first to "get it".  And my second
observation is this.  while none of you admitted to working the end
of the gut a little to make it possible to tighten the knot well, I
bet you all do it, if unconsciously while getting that first loop in
there and the end burned.
Our experience with burning the end of the gut into a lump was
varied. We only replaced the biggest 3 frets, but those 3 pieces of
gut varied in their response to the flame.  Also, a soldering iron
actually didn't work all that well for us.  A lighter set on low,
and then using mostly the (cooler?) tip of the flame seemed to work
best.
So now I think I have 3 new usable frets replacing the badly worn
ones.  That is, as long as the next time I open the case they're
still attached. :-)
Suzanne

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References

  1. http://www.wadsworth-lutes.co.uk/frets.htm
  2. mailto:suzanne.angev...@gmail.com


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[LUTE] Re: Translate Italiano "pioverin"?

2010-09-12 Thread Paolo Busato
There is a "Saltarello detto Il Poverin" in the 1st book by Giacomo 
Gorzanis.


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On Sep 10, 2010, at 5:28 AM, Sam Chapman wrote:


Garbled version of "poverino" (poor one)?


Perhaps.  Arthur Ness renders it "poverin" in his online table of contents 
of Marco's works.  When I put Paul O'Dette's Marco CD in my computer, that 
title comes up "Pioverin" on the index, but on the CD sleeve, it's 
"ioverin" which must be a typo.  I got a private email saying that in one 
modern dialect, "pioverin" is something like a rain gutter.  I cruised 
through the Bayerische Staatsbibliothek Mus. Ms. 266, but I couldn't make 
out most of the titles, which means even if I found the word, I probably 
wouldn't have any better idea about what it says.




   8 September 2010 06:38, howard posner  wrote:
"Small rain"?
 "Drizzle"?



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[LUTE] Re: Temperaments

2009-12-11 Thread Paolo Busato

..or try this one:

http://www.pyxidium.u-net.com/Acoustics/MusicMaths/MusicMaths.html#sounds

Best,

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Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 11:33 PM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Temperaments



The "I Hate Valotti" page
http://music.case.edu/duffin/Vallotti/T1/page1.html

Has musical examples you can listen to along with the text.

Everyone should read thisd article :)

Ross was of the opinion that one could put the lute in temperaments
without tastini, and I don't agree with that, so like everything take
it with cum grano salis.
However the article really talks about temperaments in general.

It is an excellent article, as are all of Ross's writings.
dt

At 10:33 AM 12/10/2009, you wrote:

Dear collective wisdom,

Some time ago on the lute net, there was a web site posted, which
gave audio demonstrations of how various temperaments sounded, using
the same musical examples.  As I did not bookmark that page, does
anyone have it, where they could send me the link?

Thanks in advance.

ed





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