[LUTE] Re: Lute + recorder

2019-08-17 Thread SW
I have asked for music for lute and recorder in the past. And some people have 
very kindly sent arrangements that they have made or collected from others. 
There must be ready-to-go lute and recorder pieces somewhere online.

Sometimes in the arrangements (made by enthusiasts today), the lute has much 
more work to do than the recorder. For an average lute player and an average 
recorder player this is not good (in my opinion, of course). 

I think that lively recorder parts with simple lute accompaniments are likely 
to be most effective. 

On 17 August 2019, at 23:16, "Frank A. Gerbode, M.D."  wrote:

   In case you *don't* have enough to do and you like earlier stuff, you
   could check out the [1]Bossinensis frottole. Also the lute parts are
   pretty easy.
   --Sarge

   On 8/17/2019 14:28, Leonard Williams wrote:

   Thanks, all!  Looks like I've got some work cut out for me!
   Leonard
   -Original Message-
   From: Andre Nieuwlaat [2]
   To: lute [3]
   Sent: Sat, Aug 17, 2019 4:28 pm
   Subject: [LUTE] Re: Lute + recorder
 Many of the pieces in the Paston lute books are intabulations of
 polyphonic pieces (motets, movements from masses, madrigals,
 fantasias), with the superius part left out. The superius part can of
 course be played on recorder.
 Andr 
 Op za 17 aug. 2019 om 22:07 schreef Tristan von Neumann
 [4]<[1][1]tristanvonneum...@gmx.de>:
   Dario Castello comes to mind.
   At least one of the solo sonatas are available online with tabs.
   If you play continuo, this is no problem anyway. The Bass line is
   pretty
   self explanatory.
   If you like older stuff:
   Pierre Attaignant's Tres Breve et familiere introduction with
   Chanson
   melodies is nice and easy to play.
   On 17.08.19 21:59, Leonard Williams wrote:
   >  I'm seeking sources for music with renaissance lute
   accompanying
   >  recorder.  Any suggestions are welcome.
   >  Thanks and regards,
   >  Leonard Williams
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[LUTE] Re: stump?

2018-12-18 Thread SW
I remember reading a conjecture that the stump might have been a 
bandora/orpharion sort of instrument along with the penorcon.

On 18 December 2018, at 22:51, Ron Andrico  wrote:

   In terms of physical appearance, the stump was like a cittern with
   additional basses (theorbized).

   RA
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   From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu  on behalf
   of Rainer 
   Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 8:22 PM
   To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
   Subject: [LUTE] Re: stump?

   New Grove:
   An English plucked instrument of the early 17th century. It is known
   only by name and by one surviving piece of music (GB-Och Mus.532),
   headed ���Alman R. Johnson to the stump by F.P.��� (ed. A. Sundermann,
   Robert Johnson: Complete Works for Solo Lute, London, 1972). This is
   written in six-line French tablature and shows that the stump had seven
   fingered string courses tuned like a Renaissance lute, with eight extra
   bass diapasons.
   Rainer
   On 18.12.2018 21:03, Leonard Williams wrote:
   > I saw in an older Lute News supplement that Pilkington
   (possibly)
   > composed a piece for the stump.  Can anyone enlighten me about
   what
   > sort of instrument that was?
   > Thanks, and best regards for the Holiday Season!
   > Leonard Williams
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[LUTE] Re: Dickens' guitar

2018-11-05 Thread SW
https://www.gresham.ac.uk/short/dickens-steamships-and-guitars-popular-music-in-the-age-of-dickens/

On 5 November 2018, at 17:22, Leonard Williams  wrote:

   I know this isn't exactly lutistic, but perhaps someone has some info
   to share:

  In Dickens' "Dombey & Son" (1848), a young man is advised to learn
   to play the guitar (or flute!) to express himself to a particular young
   lady.  What kind of guitar would have been popular at the time?  What
   tunes might he play?  Improv to his own ingenious romantic lines?

   Thanks!

   Leonard Williams

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[LUTE] Re: Nigel's Francesco vol 2

2018-08-27 Thread SW
My knowledge of instrument making is limited but lute and vihuela construction 
are somewhat different. Obviously the body shape is different but a lute has a 
very thin soundboard with a fairly complicated barring system. According to 
Alfonso Marin the vihuela has just two bars and a thicker soundboard (maybe 
3mms in places).

It might be expected that there would be some audible difference in sound.

On 27 August 2018, at 07:21, Martyn Hodgson  
wrote:

   It may, of course, simply be down to a self-opionated sound/recording
   engineeer. Some of these seem ignorant of what period instruments
   actually sound like in the flesh and seek their own subjective
   recording 'balance' and tonal qualities. They, in their ignorance, may
   even think a viola da mano 'should' sound like a lute and make the
   necessary adjustments
   MH
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   From: Sean Smith 
   To: lute 
   Sent: Sunday, 26 August 2018, 18:41
   Subject: [LUTE] Re: Nigel's Francesco vol 2
 If we cannot hear the differences between the two instruments from a
 recorded performance, what conclusions should we draw? Is the
 difference more apparent when we are in the same room? Should we
 suspect they have been mixed (deliberately? inadvertently?) to make
 them more similar?
 Sean
 On Sat, Aug 25, 2018, 5:37 AM Edward Martin
   <[1][1]edvihuel...@gmail.com>
 wrote:
   Dear ones,
   I was asked to provide the answer to the list, so here it is:
   Nigel plays on both kinds of instrument: approximately 2/3 of
   the
   pieces on lute; the rest on viola da Mano (vihuela).
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   From: Christopher Stetson
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   Date: Fri, Aug 24, 2018 at 11:20 PM
   Subject: Re: [LUTE] Nigel's Francesco vol 2
   To: Edward Martin <[2][3][3]edvihuel...@gmail.com>
   Edward,
   Can you share the answer to the list, for the curious?
   Thanks,
   Chris.
   On Fri, Aug 24, 2018 at 9:24 PM, Edward Martin
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   Dear ones,
   My inquiry was answered, thanks to Steven, Steve, and
   Andrew.
 Thanks
   to all 3!
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[LUTE] Re: Portuguise gitar and Yamaha G1

2018-07-06 Thread SW
I play wire-strung instruments with the same technique as lute or early guitar. 
I mean lightly built, lightly strung instruments (English guitar, bandora etc) 
not modern heavily built instruments strung with the sort of wire that Batman's 
Joker uses to bring down airliners.

On 6 July 2018, at 17:07, Tristan von Neumann  wrote:

How do you play on double metal strings?

I recently tried to play lute pieces on a 12 string guitar, but I almost 
got blisters...
I imagine on a small instrument the strings a thin and have quite some 
tension? What's Your technique?


Am 05.07.2018 um 23:04 schrieb G. C.:
> Hi All,
> after attending a concert including a portuguise guitar, I was
> positively surprised to realise, that this rare metal strung instrument
> is also traditionally played using the thumb-in technique!
> And after aquiring a Yamaha G1 guitalele, I was equally surprised, that
> I could play difficult lute pieces satisfactorily on such a tiny and
> cheap instrument. (Getting a noticeable pain in the left wrist
> afterwards though, which was quite a deception!)
> G.
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