[LUTE] Re: Chilesotti?
Thomas Schall kindly provided his own intabulations of the Chilesotti pieces in three PDF volumes -- See: * [1]http://lute.musickshandmade.com/collections/view/105 * [2]http://lute.musickshandmade.com/collections/view/104 * [3]http://lute.musickshandmade.com/collections/view/103 Alain On 12/17/2013 06:13 AM, G. Crona wrote: Yes they have, you'll find them here: [1][4]http://www.mclasen.com/lute/lyre/Chilesott1.html - Original Message - From: [2]William Samson To: [3]G. Crona Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 3:07 PM Subject: Re: Chilesotti? Does anyone know if the Chilesotti pieces have been published in lute tablature? Bill [4]Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android __ From: G. Crona [5][5]kalei...@gmail.com; To: Lutelist [6][6]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu; Subject: [LUTE] Re: Segovia and Pujol (was Bream Collection.) and now what? Sent: Tue, Dec 17, 2013 1:44:49 PM And not only had he good taste in music, but he also gave a lot of information and valuable advice on the execution of the pieces, a great number of which are probably the most played on the lute today among the intermediate crowd. He in fact also recommends tuning 3rd down to F# on several of the pieces and at the end requires lute tuning on some. Still highly treasured collections which must have inspired many people to take up the lute. - Original Message - From: Ed Durbrow [7][7]edurb...@gmail.com To: Tobiah [8][8]t...@tobiah.org; LuteNet list [9][9]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 2:17 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Segovia and Pujol (was Bream Collection.) and now what? Yeah, but he had good taste in music. I had three of his books. On Dec 17, 2013, at 2:19 AM, Tobiah [10][10]t...@tobiah.org wrote: On 12/16/2013 08:55 AM, Sean Smith wrote: What? No love for Frederick Noad's, The Renaissance Guitar? That book and others put me off of the Renaissance because I found that most of the pieces, though simple enough looking, were full of awkward fingerings that took more effort to master then was worth the underlying music. Later, perusing Ness' Frank book, and working out the tuning, I found that I could go back to the Noad with the 3rd down a half-step and have a much better time of it. It also caused me to lament that the grand staff had not originally been chosen for the guitar. Someone had a fetish for ledger lines, I suppose. Toby To get on or off this list see list information at [11][11]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html Ed Durbrow Saitama, Japan [12][12]http://www.youtube.com/user/edurbrow?feature=watch [13][13]https://soundcloud.com/ed-durbrow [14][14]http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/ -- - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - [15]www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4259 / Virus Database: 3658/6926 - Release Date: 12/16/13 No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - [15]www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4259 / Virus Database: 3658/6926 - Release Date: 12/16/13 -- References 1. [16]http://www.mclasen.com/lute/lyre/Chilesott1.html 2. [17]mailto:willsam...@yahoo.co.uk 3. [18]mailto:kalei...@gmail.com 4. [19]http://overview.mail.yahoo.com/mobile/?.src=Android 5. [20]mailto:kalei...@gmail.com 6. [21]mailto:lute@cs.dartmouth.edu 7. [22]javascript:return 8. [23]javascript:return 9. [24]javascript:return 10. [25]javascript:return 11. [26]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 12. [27]http://www.youtube.com/user/edurbrow?feature=watch 13. [28]https://soundcloud.com/ed-durbrow 14. [29]http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/ 15. [30]http://www.avg.com/ -- References 1. http://lute.musickshandmade.com/collections/view/105 2. http://lute.musickshandmade.com/collections/view/104 3. http://lute.musickshandmade.com/collections/view/103 4. http://www.mclasen.com/lute/lyre/Chilesott1.html 5. mailto:[5]kalei...@gmail.com 6. mailto:[6]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu 7. mailto:[7]edurb...@gmail.com 8. mailto:[8]t...@tobiah.org 9. mailto:[9]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu 10. mailto:[10]t...@tobiah.org 11. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 12. http://www.youtube.com/user/edurbrow?feature=watch 13. https://soundcloud.com/ed-durbrow 14. http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/ 15. http://www.avg.com/ 16. http://www.mclasen.com/lute/lyre/Chilesott1.html 17. mailto:willsam...@yahoo.co.uk 18. mailto:kalei...@gmail.com 19. http://overview.mail.yahoo.com/mobile/?.src=Android 20. mailto:kalei...@gmail.com 21. mailto:lute@cs.dartmouth.edu 22. javascript:return 23. javascript:return 24. javascript:return
[LUTE] Re: Chilesotti?
It's 9 PDF files: http://lautenist.de/chilesotti1.pdf http://lautenist.de/chilesotti2.pdf http://lautenist.de/chilesotti3.pdf http://lautenist.de/chilesotti4.pdf http://lautenist.de/chilesotti5.pdf http://lautenist.de/chilesotti6.pdf http://lautenist.de/chilesotti7.pdf http://lautenist.de/chilesotti8.pdf http://lautenist.de/chilesotti9.pdf Am 17.12.2013 17:50, schrieb Alain Veylit: Thomas Schall kindly provided his own intabulations of the Chilesotti pieces in three PDF volumes -- See: * [1]http://lute.musickshandmade.com/collections/view/105 * [2]http://lute.musickshandmade.com/collections/view/104 * [3]http://lute.musickshandmade.com/collections/view/103 Alain On 12/17/2013 06:13 AM, G. Crona wrote: Yes they have, you'll find them here: [1][4]http://www.mclasen.com/lute/lyre/Chilesott1.html - Original Message - From: [2]William Samson To: [3]G. Crona Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 3:07 PM Subject: Re: Chilesotti? Does anyone know if the Chilesotti pieces have been published in lute tablature? Bill [4]Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android __ From: G. Crona [5][5]kalei...@gmail.com; To: Lutelist [6][6]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu; Subject: [LUTE] Re: Segovia and Pujol (was Bream Collection.) and now what? Sent: Tue, Dec 17, 2013 1:44:49 PM And not only had he good taste in music, but he also gave a lot of information and valuable advice on the execution of the pieces, a great number of which are probably the most played on the lute today among the intermediate crowd. He in fact also recommends tuning 3rd down to F# on several of the pieces and at the end requires lute tuning on some. Still highly treasured collections which must have inspired many people to take up the lute. - Original Message - From: Ed Durbrow [7][7]edurb...@gmail.com To: Tobiah [8][8]t...@tobiah.org; LuteNet list [9][9]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 2:17 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Segovia and Pujol (was Bream Collection.) and now what? Yeah, but he had good taste in music. I had three of his books. On Dec 17, 2013, at 2:19 AM, Tobiah [10][10]t...@tobiah.org wrote: On 12/16/2013 08:55 AM, Sean Smith wrote: What? No love for Frederick Noad's, The Renaissance Guitar? That book and others put me off of the Renaissance because I found that most of the pieces, though simple enough looking, were full of awkward fingerings that took more effort to master then was worth the underlying music. Later, perusing Ness' Frank book, and working out the tuning, I found that I could go back to the Noad with the 3rd down a half-step and have a much better time of it. It also caused me to lament that the grand staff had not originally been chosen for the guitar. Someone had a fetish for ledger lines, I suppose. Toby To get on or off this list see list information at [11][11]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html Ed Durbrow Saitama, Japan [12][12]http://www.youtube.com/user/edurbrow?feature=watch [13][13]https://soundcloud.com/ed-durbrow [14][14]http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/ -- - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - [15]www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4259 / Virus Database: 3658/6926 - Release Date: 12/16/13 No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - [15]www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4259 / Virus Database: 3658/6926 - Release Date: 12/16/13 -- References 1. [16]http://www.mclasen.com/lute/lyre/Chilesott1.html 2. [17]mailto:willsam...@yahoo.co.uk 3. [18]mailto:kalei...@gmail.com 4. [19]http://overview.mail.yahoo.com/mobile/?.src=Android 5. [20]mailto:kalei...@gmail.com 6. [21]mailto:lute@cs.dartmouth.edu 7. [22]javascript:return 8. [23]javascript:return 9. [24]javascript:return 10. [25]javascript:return 11. [26]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 12. [27]http://www.youtube.com/user/edurbrow?feature=watch 13. [28]https://soundcloud.com/ed-durbrow 14. [29]http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/ 15. [30]http://www.avg.com/ -- References 1. http://lute.musickshandmade.com/collections/view/105 2. http://lute.musickshandmade.com/collections/view/104 3. http://lute.musickshandmade.com/collections/view/103 4. http://www.mclasen.com/lute/lyre/Chilesott1.html 5. mailto:[5]kalei...@gmail.com 6. mailto:[6]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu 7. mailto:[7]edurb...@gmail.com 8. mailto:[8]t...@tobiah.org 9. mailto:[9]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu 10. mailto:[10]t...@tobiah.org 11.
[LUTE] Re: Chilesotti?
You're thinking about _*Da un Codice Lauten-Buch*_ which has 99 pieces. It's a commmonplace book assembled by a Nuerenberg merchant. It has tablature and writings (jokes, saying, poems, etc.). Tablatue edition buy Dick Hoban. Lyre Music Press. This is _*Lauutenspieler*_. It is an anthology of over 200 pieces by about 25 lutenist-composers. Both transc. by Oscar Chilesotti. - Original Message - From: Stephen Fryer [1]sjfr...@telus.net To: Thomas Schall [2]lauten...@lautenist.de; [3]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 2:07 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Chilesotti? On 17/12/2013 10:02 AM, Thomas Schall wrote: It's 9 PDF files: [4]http://lautenist.de/chilesotti1.pdf [5]http://lautenist.de/chilesotti2.pdf [6]http://lautenist.de/chilesotti3.pdf [7]http://lautenist.de/chilesotti4.pdf [8]http://lautenist.de/chilesotti5.pdf [9]http://lautenist.de/chilesotti6.pdf [10]http://lautenist.de/chilesotti7.pdf [11]http://lautenist.de/chilesotti8.pdf [12]http://lautenist.de/chilesotti9.pdf Thanks! And that's still not all 99 of them! Stephen Fryer To get on or off this list see list information at [13]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. mailto:sjfr...@telus.net 2. mailto:lauten...@lautenist.de 3. mailto:lute@cs.dartmouth.edu 4. http://lautenist.de/chilesotti1.pdf 5. http://lautenist.de/chilesotti2.pdf 6. http://lautenist.de/chilesotti3.pdf 7. http://lautenist.de/chilesotti4.pdf 8. http://lautenist.de/chilesotti5.pdf 9. http://lautenist.de/chilesotti6.pdf 10. http://lautenist.de/chilesotti7.pdf 11. http://lautenist.de/chilesotti8.pdf 12. http://lautenist.de/chilesotti9.pdf 13. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Chilesotti?
On 17/12/2013 10:02 AM, Thomas Schall wrote: It's 9 PDF files: http://lautenist.de/chilesotti1.pdf http://lautenist.de/chilesotti2.pdf http://lautenist.de/chilesotti3.pdf http://lautenist.de/chilesotti4.pdf http://lautenist.de/chilesotti5.pdf http://lautenist.de/chilesotti6.pdf http://lautenist.de/chilesotti7.pdf http://lautenist.de/chilesotti8.pdf http://lautenist.de/chilesotti9.pdf Thanks! And that's still not all 99 of them! Stephen Fryer To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Chilesotti ms intabulated; open letter to Greet Schamp
Hello dear Greet, here it is: Peter Steur [EMAIL PROTECTED] BTW, this is NOT the Da un codice ... with renaissance music. It is an almost complete transcription by Oscar Chilesotti of a lute book for 13-course baroque lute from ca. 1725 , whose whereabouts are now unknown. Chilesotti published a paper in 1928(?) in the Revista de Musica Italiana (?) with the titel un piu de musica del pasato (?, sorry, everything is from memory, I am supposed to be working here at the Office !) with the photographic reproduction of a page from the manuscript + the transcription in piano notation (actually a prelude by SLWeiss and another piece I do not remember). Scholars found out sometimes in the 1970s(?) that Chilesotti had made an almost complete transcription of the manuscript into musical notation and that this transcriptions were preserved together with his Nachlass in the Cini Foundation in Venice. In his 1970ties Ph.D. thesis, Douglas Alton Smith mentions the Chilesotti publication, but had then no access to the transcriptions ... To have an idea what to expect, this lute book is in many ways similar to Haslemere Ms II B 2 Peter spent many months making the intabulations, enjoy them! Saludos, Ralf Don't get soaked. Take a quick peak at the forecast with the Yahoo! Search weather shortcut. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#loc_weather To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Chilesotti ms intabulated
AND the e-mail of Peter Steur ;-) Peter Steur [EMAIL PROTECTED] Need Mail bonding? Go to the Yahoo! Mail QA for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=listsid=396546091 To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
