[LUTE] Re: Matthew Locke
Locke writes *I just confess, Sir, I have not the Practical Use of the Lute; yet have Composed several things for it; and from thence I am sufficiently convinced, that the way of Tablature is much easier and properer for that Instrument, and the expression of its excelleny, than the way of notes; ...* In the New Grove online those lute works are mentioned as lost. Quote from *The Present Practice of Musicke Vindicated.* , on IMSLP. o -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Gesendet: Sonntag, 21 Dezember 2014 um 14:09:11 Uhr Von: mathias.roe...@t-online.de An: David van Ooijen davidvanooi...@gmail.com Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Matthew Locke Those might be the suites where it says 'theorbo' in the continuo parts Locke's music with theorbo as part of the thorough bass section is listet separately. Those two single movements and the suite are listet as lute music, distinctively. Unfortunately, no sources are given. The English wiki on MLocke does not list his works. So ... anyone? Mathias On Sunday, December 21, 2014, Mathias RAP:sel [1]mathias.roe...@t-online.de wrote: Dear Collected Wisdom, The German Wiki about Matthew Locke lists two movements (courante, sarabande) and an entire suite in C major for the lute. Does somebody know where to find those works? Mathias To get on or off this list see list information at [2]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- *** David van Ooijen [3]davidvanooi...@gmail.com [4]www.davidvanooijen.nl *** -- References 1. mailto:mathias.roe...@t-online.de 2. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 3. mailto:davidvanooi...@gmail.com 4. http://www.davidvanooijen.nl/
[LUTE] Re: Matthew Locke
Those might be the suites where it says 'theorbo' in the continuo parts.A David On Sunday, December 21, 2014, Mathias RAP:sel [1]mathias.roe...@t-online.de wrote: Dear Collected Wisdom, The German Wiki about Matthew Locke lists two movements (courante, sarabande) and an entire suite in C major for the lute. Does somebody know where to find those works? Mathias To get on or off this list see list information at [2]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- *** David van Ooijen [3]davidvanooi...@gmail.com [4]www.davidvanooijen.nl *** -- References 1. mailto:mathias.roe...@t-online.de 2. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 3. mailto:davidvanooi...@gmail.com 4. http://www.davidvanooijen.nl/
[LUTE] Re: Matthew Locke
Dear Mathias, This is what the Grove has to say: Locke's keyboard music is less important. His harpsichord works, mostly printed in Melothesia, are simple pieces doubtless written for teaching, some arranged from consort dances. The seven organ voluntaries in Melothesia were probably also written for teaching, intended to serve as specimens of what was essentially an improvisation genre. Locke claimed in The Present Practice of Musick Vindicated that he had written lute pieces without having the Practical Use of the Lute. They are lost, as are the pieces for two flageolets that Pepys played with Thomas Greeting on 13 August 1668. Matthew Spring, in 'The Lute in Britain', writes: the text of Locke's music to Shadwell's version of the Tempest printed in 1674 calls for a 'Band of 24 Violins with the Harspicals and Theorbo's which accompany the Voices' (p. 392). Best Matthew On 21 déc. 2014, at 11:45, Mathias Rösel mathias.roe...@t-online.de wrote: Dear Collected Wisdom, The German Wiki about Matthew Locke lists two movements (courante, sarabande) and an entire suite in C major for the lute. Does somebody know where to find those works? Mathias To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html --
[LUTE] Re: Matthew Locke
Those might be the suites where it says 'theorbo' in the continuo parts Locke's music with theorbo as part of the thorough bass section is listet separately. Those two single movements and the suite are listet as lute music, distinctively. Unfortunately, no sources are given. The English wiki on MLocke does not list his works. So ... anyone? Mathias On Sunday, December 21, 2014, Mathias RAP:sel [1]mathias.roe...@t-online.de wrote: Dear Collected Wisdom, The German Wiki about Matthew Locke lists two movements (courante, sarabande) and an entire suite in C major for the lute. Does somebody know where to find those works? Mathias To get on or off this list see list information at [2]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- *** David van Ooijen [3]davidvanooi...@gmail.com [4]www.davidvanooijen.nl *** -- References 1. mailto:mathias.roe...@t-online.de 2. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 3. mailto:davidvanooi...@gmail.com 4. http://www.davidvanooijen.nl/
[LUTE] Re: Matthew Locke
Tha only thing I have is: Locke 1656 Matthew Locke his Little consort of three parts: containing pavans, ayres, corants and sarabands, for viols or violins. In two several varieties: the first 20 are for two trebles and a bass: the last 20 for treble, tenor basse, to be performed either alone or with theorbo's and harpsecord. (London: William Godbid, 1656). Copies are at: GB-DRc, GB-Lbl, GB-Lcm (inc.), GB-Ob, GB-Och (inc.) This (aside from the RISM locations) is from my continuo list: http://applications.library.appstate.edu/music/lute/continuo.html Gary -- Gary R. Boye, Ph.D. Professor and Music Librarian Appalachian State University On 12/21/2014 8:09 AM, mathias.roe...@t-online.de wrote: Those might be the suites where it says 'theorbo' in the continuo parts Locke's music with theorbo as part of the thorough bass section is listet separately. Those two single movements and the suite are listet as lute music, distinctively. Unfortunately, no sources are given. The English wiki on MLocke does not list his works. So ... anyone? Mathias On Sunday, December 21, 2014, Mathias RAP:sel [1]mathias.roe...@t-online.de wrote: Dear Collected Wisdom, The German Wiki about Matthew Locke lists two movements (courante, sarabande) and an entire suite in C major for the lute. Does somebody know where to find those works? Mathias To get on or off this list see list information at [2]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- *** David van Ooijen [3]davidvanooi...@gmail.com [4]www.davidvanooijen.nl *** -- References 1. mailto:mathias.roe...@t-online.de 2. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 3. mailto:davidvanooi...@gmail.com 4. http://www.davidvanooijen.nl/
[LUTE] Re: Matthew Locke
Dear Mathias, This is what the Grove has to say: Locke's keyboard music is less important. His harpsichord works, mostly printed in Melothesia, are simple pieces doubtless written for teaching, some arranged from consort dances. The seven organ voluntaries in Melothesia were probably also written for teaching, intended to serve as specimens of what was essentially an improvisation genre. Locke claimed in The Present Practice of Musick Vindicated that he had written lute pieces without having the Practical Use of the Lute. They are lost, as are the pieces for two flageolets that Pepys played with Thomas Greeting on 13 August 1668. Matthew Spring, in 'The Lute in Britain', writes: the text of Locke's music to Shadwell's version of the Tempest printed in 1674 calls for a 'Band of 24 Violins with the Harspicals and Theorbo's which accompany the Voices' (p. 392). Dear Matthew, Thanks a lot fort he quotes! I take the phrase is/are lost always to imply that the music has up to now not been discovered, hoping that it may turn up somewhere someday. BTW I intabulated the suite # 4 of Melothesia for the 12c lute some time ago, and may I say that I found it charming, by no means less important or merely written for teaching purposes. Mind you, I'm still looking for hints concerning possible tempo of the sarabande in Mace's and Locke's days. The sarabande of suite # 4 seems to require rather slow tempo. Mathias The German Wiki about Matthew Locke lists two movements (courante, sarabande) and an entire suite in C major for the lute. Does somebody know where to find those works? Mathias To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html --
[LUTE] Re: Matthew Locke
It has been remarked before that Locke's various instrumental setts (including his 'Broken Consort' pieces) seem a concious attempt to continue the previous forms started by Coperario and developed by Wm Lawes (in his 'old' and 'new' sets of the 'Royal' consorts with theorbos) and others just before the interregnum. As composer for the King's Private Musick presumably this continuation of an old style by Locke may have also had some significant symbolic effect at the time. Martyn __ From: Gary R. Boye boy...@appstate.edu To: mathias.roe...@t-online.de; David van Ooijen davidvanooi...@gmail.com Cc: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Sunday, 21 December 2014, 16:14 Subject: [LUTE] Re: Matthew Locke Tha only thing I have is: Locke 1656 Matthew Locke his Little consort of three parts: containing pavans, ayres, corants and sarabands, for viols or violins. In two several varieties: the first 20 are for two trebles and a bass: the last 20 for treble, tenor basse, to be performed either alone or with theorbo's and harpsecord. (London: William Godbid, 1656). Copies are at: GB-DRc, GB-Lbl, GB-Lcm (inc.), GB-Ob, GB-Och (inc.) This (aside from the RISM locations) is from my continuo list: [1]http://applications.library.appstate.edu/music/lute/continuo.html Gary -- Gary R. Boye, Ph.D. Professor and Music Librarian Appalachian State University On 12/21/2014 8:09 AM, [2]mathias.roe...@t-online.de wrote: Those might be the suites where it says 'theorbo' in the continuo parts Locke's music with theorbo as part of the thorough bass section is listet separately. Those two single movements and the suite are listet as lute music, distinctively. Unfortunately, no sources are given. The English wiki on MLocke does not list his works. So ... anyone? Mathias On Sunday, December 21, 2014, Mathias RAP:sel [1][3]mathias.roe...@t-online.de wrote: Dear Collected Wisdom, The German Wiki about Matthew Locke lists two movements (courante, sarabande) and an entire suite in C major for the lute. Does somebody know where to find those works? Mathias To get on or off this list see list information at [2][4]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- *** David van Ooijen [3][5]davidvanooi...@gmail.com [4]www.davidvanooijen.nl *** -- References 1. mailto:[6]mathias.roe...@t-online.de 2. [7]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 3. mailto:[8]davidvanooi...@gmail.com 4. [9]http://www.davidvanooijen.nl/ -- References 1. http://applications.library.appstate.edu/music/lute/continuo.html 2. mailto:mathias.roe...@t-online.de 3. mailto:mathias.roe...@t-online.de 4. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 5. mailto:davidvanooi...@gmail.com 6. mailto:mathias.roe...@t-online.de 7. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 8. mailto:davidvanooi...@gmail.com 9. http://www.davidvanooijen.nl/
