[LUTE] Re: Now it is getting weird

[Rainer]

The situation in bar 7 is much worse :)

Rainer




On 12.03.2017 11:10, Rainer wrote:

In the first prelude of the first book of Le Secret des Muses there is a very 
strange hold line in bar 15

For those who do not have a digital facsimile, have a look at the links at

http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~lsa/links/Digital-Facsimiles.html

The line starts at a non-existing bass note.

What does/could this mean?

1) It could mean that the G on course 6 of the first chord should sound 
throughout the whole measure.

2) The G on the 4th course in of the first chord should sound throughout the 
whole measure.

3) there is a note (an e on the 6th course?) missing in the 7th "chord".


Option 1) makes no sense, but sometimes (very few cases) there are lines in 
Vallet starting at an un-stopped string.

Option 2) makes musical sense. The engraver had a blackout :)

Option 3 is the best explanation for the otherwise meaningless line, but adding 
a note here can hardly be justified.

Best wishes,

Rainer

PS

I noticed that volume I was engraved by at least two different persons.



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[LUTE] Re: Now it is getting weird

[David van Ooijen]

   Agree with Lex. The G-major chord, including the b on course 3, should
   be held.
   David

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   On 12 March 2017 at 11:37, Lex van Sante <[3]lvansa...@gmail.com>
   wrote:

 Hi Rainer,
 I think there is a fourth possibility.
 It is the B on the third course which is meant to be held for the
 remainder of the measure.
 Happy luting!
 Lex

   > Op 12 mrt. 2017, om 11:10 heeft Rainer
   <[4]rads.bera_g...@t-online.de> het volgende geschreven:
   >
   > In the first prelude of the first book of Le Secret des Muses there
   is a very strange hold line in bar 15
   >
   > For those who do not have a digital facsimile, have a look at the
   links at
   >
   > [5]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~lsa/links/Digital-Facsimiles.html
   >
   > The line starts at a non-existing bass note.
   >
   > What does/could this mean?
   >
   > 1) It could mean that the G on course 6 of the first chord should
   sound throughout the whole measure.
   >
   > 2) The G on the 4th course in of the first chord should sound
   throughout the whole measure.
   >
   > 3) there is a note (an e on the 6th course?) missing in the 7th
   "chord".
   >
   >
   > Option 1) makes no sense, but sometimes (very few cases) there are
   lines in Vallet starting at an un-stopped string.
   >
   > Option 2) makes musical sense. The engraver had a blackout :)
   >
   > Option 3 is the best explanation for the otherwise meaningless line,
   but adding a note here can hardly be justified.
   >
   > Best wishes,
   >
   > Rainer
   >
   > PS
   >
   > I noticed that volume I was engraved by at least two different
   persons.
   >
   >
   >
   > To get on or off this list see list information at
   > [6]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

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References

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   2. http://www.davidvanooijen.nl/
   3. mailto:lvansa...@gmail.com
   4. mailto:rads.bera_g...@t-online.de
   5. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~lsa/links/Digital-Facsimiles.html
   6. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Now it is getting weird

[Lex van Sante]

Hi Rainer,
I think there is a fourth possibility.
It is the B on the third course which is meant to be held for the remainder of 
the measure.
Happy luting!
Lex
> Op 12 mrt. 2017, om 11:10 heeft Rainer  het 
> volgende geschreven:
> 
> In the first prelude of the first book of Le Secret des Muses there is a very 
> strange hold line in bar 15
> 
> For those who do not have a digital facsimile, have a look at the links at
> 
> http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~lsa/links/Digital-Facsimiles.html
> 
> The line starts at a non-existing bass note.
> 
> What does/could this mean?
> 
> 1) It could mean that the G on course 6 of the first chord should sound 
> throughout the whole measure.
> 
> 2) The G on the 4th course in of the first chord should sound throughout the 
> whole measure.
> 
> 3) there is a note (an e on the 6th course?) missing in the 7th "chord".
> 
> 
> Option 1) makes no sense, but sometimes (very few cases) there are lines in 
> Vallet starting at an un-stopped string.
> 
> Option 2) makes musical sense. The engraver had a blackout :)
> 
> Option 3 is the best explanation for the otherwise meaningless line, but 
> adding a note here can hardly be justified.
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> Rainer
> 
> PS
> 
> I noticed that volume I was engraved by at least two different persons.
> 
> 
> 
> To get on or off this list see list information at
> http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html