[LUTE] Re: Tempi in French baroque from Lully to Couperin?
And of course, the other thing to do is to work with dancers specializing in baroque dancing, quite an experience in terms of tempi ! Jean-Marie === 04-02-2009 08:09:51 === Try to grab Antoine Geoffroy-Dechaume's little book Les secrets de la musque ancienne... It must be out of print by now, but maybe Abebooks.com can find it ? Another good read is, after all these years, Robert Donington's Early Music and A Performer's Guide to Baroque Music. Lots of info about what the treatises said about tempo at the time of Lully and after. Best, Jean-Marie === 03-02-2009 22:05:07 === Hi collective wisdom(?), what are the contemporary opinions of the tempos (=tempi) of French baroque dances at the end of the 17th century and at the very beginnings of the 18th? Allemande, courante, sarabande, gigue, gavotte, menuet, passagalia, etc.? As far as I know, there has been very different interpretations of some original advice; differences varying by factor 2! What is the true truth of today? :-) Arto To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html --- Orange vous informe que cet e-mail a ete controle par l'anti-virus mail. Aucun virus connu a ce jour par nos services n'a ete detecte. = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr http://poirierjm.free.fr 04-02-2009 --- Orange vous informe que cet e-mail a ete controle par l'anti-virus mail. Aucun virus connu a ce jour par nos services n'a ete detecte. = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr http://poirierjm.free.fr 04-02-2009
[LUTE] Re: Tempi in French baroque from Lully to Couperin?
Dear Arto There's a very big book from Klaus Miehling: Das Tempo in der Musik von Barock und Vorklassik, Wilhelmshaven (Florian Noetzel) verbesserte und stark erweiterte Neuausgabe 2003. ISBN 3-7959-0590-7 It's on my desktop ready for studies... And it's as always: The truth is not so simple! Very often there were different tempos for the same dance f.ex. for a Courante: a slower and a faster type. Andreas Am 03.02.2009 um 22:05 schrieb wi...@cs.helsinki.fi: Hi collective wisdom(?), what are the contemporary opinions of the tempos (=tempi) of French baroque dances at the end of the 17th century and at the very beginnings of the 18th? Allemande, courante, sarabande, gigue, gavotte, menuet, passagalia, etc.? As far as I know, there has been very different interpretations of some original advice; differences varying by factor 2! What is the true truth of today? :-) Arto To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html Andreas Schlegel Eckstr. 6 CH-5737 Menziken +41 (0)62 771 47 07 lute.cor...@sunrise.ch --
[LUTE] Re: Tempi in French baroque from Lully to Couperin?
On Feb 3, 2009, at 4:33 PM, Andreas Schlegel wrote: Very often there were different tempos for the same dance f.ex. for a Courante: a slower and a faster type. Was it perhaps a matter of mood as well as tempo? Davidr dlu...@verizon.net -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Tempi in French baroque from Lully to Couperin?
Try to grab Antoine Geoffroy-Dechaume's little book Les secrets de la musque ancienne... It must be out of print by now, but maybe Abebooks.com can find it ? Another good read is, after all these years, Robert Donington's Early Music and A Performer's Guide to Baroque Music. Lots of info about what the treatises said about tempo at the time of Lully and after. Best, Jean-Marie === 03-02-2009 22:05:07 === Hi collective wisdom(?), what are the contemporary opinions of the tempos (=tempi) of French baroque dances at the end of the 17th century and at the very beginnings of the 18th? Allemande, courante, sarabande, gigue, gavotte, menuet, passagalia, etc.? As far as I know, there has been very different interpretations of some original advice; differences varying by factor 2! What is the true truth of today? :-) Arto To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html --- Orange vous informe que cet e-mail a ete controle par l'anti-virus mail. Aucun virus connu a ce jour par nos services n'a ete detecte. = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr http://poirierjm.free.fr 04-02-2009
