Dear Martyn and all

       There are indeed some beautiful early lute tablatures, manuscript
   or engraved, that are a joy to peruse (as appears to be the case for
   the Krzeszow manuscript mentioned here recently by JarosÅaw Lipski, in
   relation to his new Weiss LP or the magnificent engraving of Reusner's
   Neue Lauren Fruchte).

   However, some well documented modern transcriptions can both be a help
   in reading old tablatures with damaged or missing elements, if these
   are reconstructed by more competent musicologists than myself, and
   often, as with the CNRS editions, these are backed up by well
   documented concordances allowing us to search for the relevant
   manuscripts ourselves. With French pieces, I find this useful
   having several versions from different manuscripts. Indeed, I believe
   in recent transcriptions of French pieces by Joel Dugot or François
   Pierre Goy, for example,  they often present pieces derived from
   several manuscripts based on their musicological réflexions, and
   interestingly their transcriptions of the same pieces are not
   identical, but this difference gives me pleasure, there is no reason
   why two musicologists would come up with exactly the same musical
   choice, yet the concordances are always given and so the musician can
   decide for himself which they prefer.

      Having said that,  I may not be the only lutenist who is unable to
   read any tablature old or modern placed on a music stand, and who is
   therefore obliged to personally transcribe every piece in their own
   handwriting as large as possible, because of weakening sight. As Mark
   Probert says this also helps to understand the piece, particularly if
   the transcription is based on several manuscripts. Unfortunately some
   modern transcripts with partially sketched minuscule characters are
   even more difficult to read with poor eyesight than old manuscripts
   though this is fortunately not the usual case.

   I thank both those who make old manuscripts and modern transcriptions
   widely available on the Web or through lute societies or other outlets.

   Regards

   Anthony

   Understanding. By going through a piece in such detail you get
   a somewhat different knowledge of the piece one that, certainly for a
   poor player

   like me, can really help in getting to learn the piece

   Certainly some modern transcriptions are even less legible than old
   manuscripts with minis use characters,

   There are also modern transcriptions which are almost unreadable,
   because of the minuscule characters (which will perhaps not be the case
   for Doug Towne's editions).
   On the other hand there are sometimes parts of a manuscript that have
   become damaged, and there it may be useful to see the solution to the
   missing piece worked out by a scholar in the field, if there is no
   concordance to help.
   I frequently do refer to the CNRS editions for French Baroque music,
   but I have noticed on occasions that the chosen tablature for a piece
   is not always the result of recreating the piece from the various
   existing manuscripts, but one of these has been preferred, perhaps for
   a very good reason. Nevertheless the reader is always referred to
   concordances which allows more research.
   but personally my eyesight does not allow me to read either on a music
   stand, so in all cases I transcribe by hand.
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   Le samedi, décembre 21, 2019, 1:40 PM, Martyn Hodgson
   <hodgsonmar...@mail.cs.dartmouth.edu> a écrit :

     Dear Nancy,

     I generally much prefer a facsimile of the original print or MS and

     sometimes wonder how the recent desire to put things into a modern

     uniform tablature edition has gained ground. In particular, the use
   of

     hand or engraving allowed and allows a more flexible approach in

     spacing etc which can better suggest interpretation and, in my view,

     usually makes reading easier. .

     Admittedly, with some originals the quality can be poor and difficult

     to read and, in these cases, I think a modern edition (employing

     tablature and spacings as close as possible to the original) is,

     indeed, perhaps the answer. However, collections such as that of 1638

     by Pierre Gaultier Orleanois are, in my view, perfectly readable  -
   my

     own photocopy of a microfilm print has a few background shadings but

     these could be cleaned up electronically I suspect to a condition

     closer to that when the collection was first printed.

     In short, players should feel encouraged to play direct from such

     rather than modern printed editions which impose a uniform and

     Procrustean style favoured by the modern editor.

     Martyn Hodgson

     On Friday, 20 December 2019, 20:14:25 GMT, Nancy Carlin

     <[2]lsaq.edi...@gmail.com> wrote:

     The LSA has just finished publishing all of Doug Towne's edition of

     Weiss's London manuscript and we plan to publish next Pierre
   Gaultier's

     Les Ouvres 1638 and Francois Richard's Airs de Cour, 1637 - also in

     editions made by Doug. We are looking for someone to write a short

     introductions to these 2 collections of music - where they fit into
   the

     world of lute music, etc.  We are also looking for a couple of more

     people to write CD reviews. If you are interested in doing any of
   this

     please email me.

     Nancy Carlin

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