I don't use a quill Susan, just a fountain pen with Italic or flex nib,
But it's a pleasure to do, and as I said before, necessary for me
if want to be able to read tablature on a music stand.
I use cream coloured 160g paper that doesn't get blown about.
That said some younger players find my larger transcriptions a
challenge.
But then they are specifically for my old eyes without glasses.
Well, I've known for a long time, I'm a bit cranky or just weird.
Anthony
PS Wayne, it should be possible to print any manuscript tablature onto
heavy paper to avoid things flying about, and even to enlarge it
slightly. However, I see more musicians now with tablets and no paper
at all, but perhaps a little afraid of glitches bugs and so forth. I
don't think I could join them.
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Le dimanche, décembre 22, 2019, 1:56 PM, Susan Price
<spiffys84...@mail.cs.dartmouth.edu> a écrit :
I'm just wondering why more people dont produce modern editions that
are hand written? I've made many transcriptions of keyboard music for
lute and for me all I need is blank tab paper and a hard pencil. I
compose too and my manuscripts are in the tradition of the old lute
composers. I should also add that I practice copperplate calligraphy
with a quill pen and produce lute music that way (so perhaps I'm just
weird! )
Susan
-------- Original message --------
From: Jean-Marie Poirier <[2]jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr>
Date: 12/22/19 5:31 AM (GMT-07:00)
To: "Frank A. Gerbode, M.D." <[3]sa...@gerbode.net>
Cc: "[4]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu" <[5]Lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>
Subject: [LUTE] Re: modern lute editions
Although I have a marked preference for original manuscripts or
editions, we must keep in mind that not all players are professionals
used to reading original stuff from the sources, and some may be
discouraged by the same sources we enjoy reading from, we must pay a
well deserved tribute to the previous and very competent work of
people
like Sarge Gerbode and Doug Town. Thanks to their generous attitude
we
have a much easier access to lots and lots of music otherwise
difficult
to find, very valuable resources for pro and amateur alike.
A very grateful thank you to them hoping they do keep up the good
work!
Jean-Marie Poirier
> Le 22 déc. 2019 à 00:49, Frank A. Gerbode, M.D.
<[6]sa...@gerbode.net> a
écrit :
>
>  As a major purveyor of modern lute editions, I feel I need to
answer
> the question of "Why do it?", in the era of readily available
> facsimiles.
> Of course, when I started, some decades ago, facsimiles were not
> generally available online, if at all, so there was no choice
except to
> do editions of stuff I happened to be able to get my hands on.
Even
> now, some facsimiles are only available in very expensive printed
> editions. By and large the expense places these out of reach of
most
> lutenists, including myself, so creating an online modern edition
is
> the only way to make that music available at all.
> My mission, in my musical life, is to make as much free lute music
in
> playable form available to as many people as possible. and the
only
way
> to do so is electronically. In 2014, the LSA Quarterly, v.48, I
wrote
> my "[1]manifesto" on the subject, and I won't repeat myself here.
Some
> book and a few MS sources are so clear that it is not, perhaps,
> necessary to make modern editions of them. I have tended not to
> prioritize these sources in making my editions. Apart from that,
here
> are some reasons for making modern editions instead of relying on
> facsimile sources.
> 1. Readability
> The point of making modern editions like those put out by the LSA
is,
> quite simply, to make it easier for modern lutenists to perform
the
> music. If we look at editions of mensural music, almost all of
them
> use the standard modern style. Unusual or unfamiliar clefs, key
> signatures, meter notations, and note shapes are almost
universally
> replaced by modern symbols, because these are easily readable by
modern
> players, most of whom are not fluent in reading the old symbols. I
> believe no information vital to performance is lost in these
editions.
> Similar reasons apply to lute tab, where French tab serves as a
"lingua
> franca". Few, for instance, would want to perform from German or
> Neapolitan tab sources and many are not fluent in Italian or
Spanish
> tab either. Ideally, too, the layout of a particular piece should
be
> conducive to arranging the printed version on a music stand to
avoid or
> minimize page turns. When you perform, you want all of your
attention
> going to actualizing the music, not on turning pages or trying to
> decipher material that is difficult to read. Manuscript lute
sources in
> particular are often hard to read because of poor or careless
> penmanship, inconvenient page turns, or because notes and rhythm
flags
> are often indistinct, blotted out, or missing.
> 2. Correction of errors.
> Lute music sources, books and manuscripts alike, particularly
those
> containing Renaissance music, are in general rife with errors.
> Performers do not want to be having to mentally correct the errors
on
> the fly as they play. That is part of the editor's job. If errors
are
> corrected, while still making it unobtrusively clear in the
edition
all
> the changes one has made, it makes for an easily performable
edition
> that performers can always mark up if they disagree with the
editor's
> decisions. Also, attributing the precise source in facsimile and,
> ideally, making it easily available, can be very helpful.
> 3. Dealing with scribal or publisher idiosyncrasies
> There is no historical standard for tab notation. Each source has
its
> own idiosyncrasies, and one of the main things necessary is to
learn
> what the peculiarities are of a particular scribe or publisher.
> Sometimes there are several scribes within a MS, which makes it
even
> more challenging. This is especially true for German tab sources.
> Sometimes, also, it takes awhile to suss out what a scribe
intends,
> because of poor penmanship or defects in the MS. For instance in
the
> [2]Fabricius Lute Book, my current project, it is often impossible
to
> differentiate the German tab c from the e and from the o, so one
has to
> make decisions based on context. Sometimes a dot is omitted over a
> note, or a dotted rhythm is rendered by three rhythm flags with
notes
> under the first and third. Something that looks like a repeat
sign, a
> double bar with two or three dots on either side, sometimes does
seem
> to mean a repeat of the prior section, but sometimes it is just a
way
> of separating sections. An editor can punt by simply using a
double
> bar in such instances; I usually prefer to make decisions about
such
> matters, which the performer may disagree with.
> I have not personally run across instances where writing style or
> spacing in the original appears to reflect differences relevant to
> performance, but I am not that experienced in editing Baroque lute
> music, and such things might be relevant there. It would always be
> possible, however, in a modern edition to note such instances.
> --Sarge
> --
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>
> --
>
> References
>
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> 2.
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841_
40_fabricius_lute_book_1607
> 3. mailto:[13]sa...@gerbode.net
> 4. [14]http://www.gerbode.net/
>
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