[LUTE] Re: Re : Re: Re : Re: An Application which allows Single track recording and recognises an external mic?

2019-12-16 Thread Martyn Hodgson
   I'll very much look forward to your findings about the new unsplit gut
   strings - I presume they're for trebles mainly...
   rgds
   Martyn

   On Monday, 16 December 2019, 13:49:57 GMT, Anthony Hind
wrote:
   Yes I see what you mean, Martyn. It would be difficult to do that with
   a machine that's not dedicated entirely to recording.  There is I
   suppose a limit to the openness of omnipurpose devices.
   Thanks for that thought.
   The reason I am looking for a solution right now is that I ordered the
   new unsplit gut strings from Mimmo. I was hoping to record a few pieces
   with my lute as it is at present with split gut strings, and then
   record the same pieces with the new split gut. I am not entirely sure
   the recording device would be good enough to discriminate such a
   difference, but I do know audible memory is generally very poor, and
   can easily be biased. As I hope the new strings will be better, I
   probably would hear them as such, unless a side by side recording tells
   me clearly otherwise. Of course there is also the problem that strings
   take a few months to run in, so I'd have to record the same pieces over
   a few months.
   Well that is the idea but from my experience in experimental phonetics,
   I know this will never be entirely objective.
   Best
   Anthony
   [1]Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone

   Le lundi, décembre 16, 2019, 2:08 PM, Martyn Hodgson
a écrit :

 Take your point Anthony,

 With my little Zoom H2 it allows over 6 hours recording time - so I

 simply put it on and then forget about it knowing I can fairly easily

 cut out large bits I don't want  when I download onto Audacity (or

 whatever you prefer)

 regards

 Martyn

 On Monday, 16 December 2019, 12:59:35 GMT, Anthony Hind

 <[2]agno3ph...@mail.cs.dartmouth.edu> wrote:

   Dear Martyn

 I was doing something similar to your suggestion by
   connecting

 my

   condenser mic through focusrite  directly to my Mac and using
   Amadeus

   which I prefer to Audacity; but this meant getting up from my
   playing

   position to start and stop recordings etc. I found using FiRe or
   Tape

   on my iPad more convenient as I could control everything while

 playing.

   I did then download to my Mac and Amadeus.

   I realize you can do that very well from a Zoom, and perhaps I will

   acquire one if I cannot replace FiRe; but I found the sound quality

 of

   this setup with condenser mic, focusrite, FiRe and IPad/iphone good

   enough for evaluating progress, or the lack of it (more often

   unfortunately).

   But I will keep your suggestion in mind, thanks Martyn,

   Regards

   Anthony

   [1]Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone

   Le lundi, dà ©cembre 16, 2019, 12:26 PM, Martyn Hodgson

   <[1][3]hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk> a à ©crit :

   Dear Anthony,

   You might find it helpful to download your recording onto a PC or

   tablet (from whatever recording device - I use a Zoom H2) and then

 use

   software like Audacity to produce a recording as you would wish it
   ie

   without ridiculously excessive 'sound engineering' with, as you
   say,

   things like the added resonances of GarageBand.

   [2][2][4]https://www.audacityteam.org/

   And no, I'm not on commision!

   regards

   Martyn

   On Monday, 16 December 2019, 10:32:09 GMT, Anthony Hind

   <[3][5]agno3ph...@mail.cs.dartmouth.edu> wrote:

 Dear Luthenists

   I am looking for a very simple app which will recognise the

 presence of a mic and preamp such as Focusrite connected to the

 lightning connector of my iPad or iPhone, but which will make a

   single

 track mono recording of my lute without the unnecessary
   multitrack

 complexities and added resonances of GarageBand.

 I used to use the excellent app FiRe, but it no longer works, as
   it

 hasn't been updated; I then used Tape by focusrite which worked

   alright

 on my iPad, but now has become temperamental. Impact by focusrite

 apparently works well but only for audiovideo. Rode Rec Le looks
   a

   good

 candidate but apparently it only works with a Rode mic (at least

 that

 is what they claim). I use the excellent Voice Recorder Pro for

   casual

 recording with the internal mics on my iPhone, but I don't think
   it

   can

 recognise an external mic. If anyone has found and uses

 successfully

 such an App, please let me know on or off list.

 Thank you for your help, it will be much appreciated.

 Regards

 Anthony

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[LUTE] Re : Re : Re: Re : Re: An Application which allows Single track recording and recognises an external mic?

2019-12-16 Thread Anthony Hind
   I meant « the same pieces with the new unsplit gut. »
   [1]Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone

   Le lundi, décembre 16, 2019, 2:49 PM, Anthony Hind
a écrit :

 Yes I see what you mean, Martyn. It would be difficult to do that
   with

 a machine that's not dedicated entirely to recording.  There is I

 suppose a limit to the openness of omnipurpose devices.

 Thanks for that thought.

 The reason I am looking for a solution right now is that I ordered
   the

 new unsplit gut strings from Mimmo. I was hoping to record a few
   pieces

 with my lute as it is at present with split gut strings, and then

 record the same pieces with the new split gut. I am not entirely sure

 the recording device would be good enough to discriminate such a

 difference, but I do know audible memory is generally very poor, and

 can easily be biased. As I hope the new strings will be better, I

 probably would hear them as such, unless a side by side recording
   tells

 me clearly otherwise. Of course there is also the problem that
   strings

 take a few months to run in, so I'd have to record the same pieces
   over

 a few months.

 Well that is the idea but from my experience in experimental
   phonetics,

 I know this will never be entirely objective.

 Best

 Anthony

 [1]Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone

 Le lundi, dà ©cembre 16, 2019, 2:08 PM, Martyn Hodgson

 <[2]hodgsonmar...@mail.cs.dartmouth.edu> a à ©crit :

   Take your point Anthony,

   With my little Zoom H2 it allows over 6 hours recording time - so I

   simply put it on and then forget about it knowing I can fairly
   easily

   cut out large bits I don't want  when I download onto Audacity (or

   whatever you prefer)

   regards

   Martyn

   On Monday, 16 December 2019, 12:59:35 GMT, Anthony Hind

   <[2][3]agno3ph...@mail.cs.dartmouth.edu> wrote:

 Dear Martyn

   I was doing something similar to your suggestion by

 connecting

   my

 condenser mic through focusrite  directly to my Mac and using

 Amadeus

 which I prefer to Audacity; but this meant getting up from my

 playing

 position to start and stop recordings etc. I found using FiRe or

 Tape

 on my iPad more convenient as I could control everything while

   playing.

 I did then download to my Mac and Amadeus.

 I realize you can do that very well from a Zoom, and perhaps I
   will

 acquire one if I cannot replace FiRe; but I found the sound
   quality

   of

 this setup with condenser mic, focusrite, FiRe and IPad/iphone
   good

 enough for evaluating progress, or the lack of it (more often

 unfortunately).

 But I will keep your suggestion in mind, thanks Martyn,

 Regards

 Anthony

 [1]Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone

 Le lundi, dà ©cembre 16, 2019, 12:26 PM, Martyn Hodgson

 <[1][3][4]hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk> a à ©crit :

 Dear Anthony,

 You might find it helpful to download your recording onto a PC or

 tablet (from whatever recording device - I use a Zoom H2) and
   then

   use

 software like Audacity to produce a recording as you would wish
   it

 ie

 without ridiculously excessive 'sound engineering' with, as you

 say,

 things like the added resonances of GarageBand.

 [2][2][4][5]https://www.audacityteam.org/

 And no, I'm not on commision!

 regards

 Martyn

 On Monday, 16 December 2019, 10:32:09 GMT, Anthony Hind

 <[3][5][6]agno3ph...@mail.cs.dartmouth.edu> wrote:

   Dear Luthenists

 I am looking for a very simple app which will recognise
   the

   presence of a mic and preamp such as Focusrite connected to the

   lightning connector of my iPad or iPhone, but which will make a

 single

   track mono recording of my lute without the unnecessary

 multitrack

   complexities and added resonances of GarageBand.

   I used to use the excellent app FiRe, but it no longer works,
   as

 it

   hasn't been updated; I then used Tape by focusrite which worked

 alright

   on my iPad, but now has become temperamental. Impact by
   focusrite

   apparently works well but only for audiovideo. Rode Rec Le
   looks

 a

 good

   candidate but apparently it only works with a Rode mic (at
   least

   that

   is what they claim). I use the excellent Voice Recorder Pro for

 casual

   recording with the internal mics on my iPhone, but I don't
   think

 it

 can

   recognise an external mic. If anyone has found and uses

   successfully

   such an App,