Re: Fixing the LUV list?

2015-12-19 Thread Brian May via luv-main
Craig Sanders via luv-main  writes:

> On Sat, Dec 19, 2015 at 04:04:45PM +0100, Anders Holmström via luv-main wrote:
>> As mentioned it was on luv-talk. As I recall there was no announcement; the
>> change was implemented without warning and /then/ there was some discussion.
>
> By "announcement", i mean Russell said "I'm doing this" and gave his reasons.
>
> given that he's the list admin, that counts as an announcement to me, 
> regardless
> of the fact that i disagree with both his decision and his reasons.

... except people only subscribed to luv-main and not luv-talk won't
have seen his accouncement.
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Re: Fixing the LUV list?

2015-12-19 Thread Craig Sanders via luv-main
On Sat, Dec 19, 2015 at 04:04:45PM +0100, Anders Holmström via luv-main wrote:
> As mentioned it was on luv-talk. As I recall there was no announcement; the
> change was implemented without warning and /then/ there was some discussion.

By "announcement", i mean Russell said "I'm doing this" and gave his reasons.

given that he's the list admin, that counts as an announcement to me, regardless
of the fact that i disagree with both his decision and his reasons.

craig

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Re: hosting etc

2015-12-19 Thread Russell Coker via luv-main
On Sun, 20 Dec 2015 12:48:13 AM Chris Samuel via luv-main wrote:
> On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 07:22:35 PM Russell Coker via luv-main wrote:
> > We are in the process of making other hosting arrangements.  One issue
> > that is  yet to be discussed is where to host the lists, in the past
> > Linux Australia offered to host lists for us and we may take them up on
> > that offer if it's still available.
> 
> Their systems are in the same place..

I presume that they are making arrangements to move them.  I hope that they 
have made more progress towards moving them than we have.

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Re: Fixing the LUV list?

2015-12-19 Thread Erik Christiansen via luv-main
On 20.12.15 11:39, Brian May via luv-main wrote:
> Craig Sanders via luv-main  writes:
> 
> > On Sat, Dec 19, 2015 at 04:04:45PM +0100, Anders Holmström via luv-main 
> > wrote:
> >> As mentioned it was on luv-talk. As I recall there was no announcement; the
> >> change was implemented without warning and /then/ there was some 
> >> discussion.
> >
> > By "announcement", i mean Russell said "I'm doing this" and gave his 
> > reasons.
> >
> > given that he's the list admin, that counts as an announcement to me, 
> > regardless
> > of the fact that i disagree with both his decision and his reasons.
> 
> ... except people only subscribed to luv-main and not luv-talk won't
> have seen his accouncement.

Prezactly. (Thus secreted/hidden, by any reasonable measure.)

A small procmail rule will undo the munge on receipt, though, so I
guess it is actually no biggie if the munge isn't rectified at source.
(It does seem broken, though, for the mailserver to have to set both
sender and envelope-sender, for any reason. If a hack is needed, do it
in the latter, for heaven's sake. Or add yet another header - they're
cheap.)

Erik
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hosting etc

2015-12-19 Thread Russell Coker via luv-main
In 3-5 weeks the LUV server will no longer be running at it's current location 
due to V3/VPAC closing.

We are in the process of making other hosting arrangements.  One issue that is 
yet to be discussed is where to host the lists, in the past Linux Australia 
offered to host lists for us and we may take them up on that offer if it's 
still 
available.

If anyone knows of an organisation that might offer us free hosting then please 
email the committee.

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Re: hosting etc

2015-12-19 Thread Chris Samuel via luv-main
On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 07:22:35 PM Russell Coker via luv-main wrote:

> We are in the process of making other hosting arrangements.  One issue that
> is  yet to be discussed is where to host the lists, in the past Linux
> Australia offered to host lists for us and we may take them up on that
> offer if it's still available.

Their systems are in the same place..

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Re: Fixing the LUV list?

2015-12-19 Thread Anders Holmström via luv-main

On 2015-12-19 14:48, Chris Samuel via luv-main wrote:

On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 05:05:39 PM Craig Sanders via luv-main wrote:


it wasn't exactly a discussion, either.  an announcement was
made and a few people (including myself) objected.


It was?   When was that?


As mentioned it was on luv-talk. As I recall there was no announcement; 
the change was implemented without warning and /then/ there was some 
discussion.


Anders
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