Re: [lxc-users] basic understanding - clarification sought
LXD and LXC are basically separate, from a user's point of view. the `lxc` command is actually LXD. `lxc` followed by a dash, like `lxc-ls` is LXC. These are sometimes referred to (e.g. in Ubuntu packaging) as lxc-1.0 (lxc-ls, etc.) and lxc-2.0 (LXD). LXC containers are not too different from Docker; Docker used to use liblxc as its base. LXD containers are designed to feel more like a VM, yes. They _can_ be slightly larger in size, depending, because they run an entire guest OS minus the kernel, starting from the init daemon, all libraries, etc. But the difference in size isn't terrible if you have a deduplicating filesystem, FS-level compression, or a small number of containers (or just a huge amount of disk space). A few gigs per container base image, at most. I don't foresee any LXD _code_ ever being locked under a proprietary license. Canonical doesn't really do that. They do have enterprise support that you can pay for, but in that case, you are paying them for services (technical advice and possibly individualized patches or builds), not for source code or software licenses. The software itself should remain free and open source, though any company (even a company other than Canonical) could develop proprietary extensions or integrations at any time if they wanted to. The license won't prevent them from doing so. I just think it's unlikely in practice. Sean On Fri, Apr 7, 2017 at 10:47 PM, gunnar.wagner wrote: > hi everybody, > > I am a novice to LXC/LXD and am trying to get a basic understanding > together. I have grasped some things which I am not sure about whether I got > them wrong or write. > Maybe this groups is able and willing to confirm or set things straight for > me > > if you run LXD the lxc commands used are different from the lxc commands > used when running 'bare' lxc (for example 'lxc list' vs 'lxc-ls > --fancy')? > > LXD runs on the Apache License 2.0 (same as Docker engine) so it could > happen the same thing to lxd (being divided into Community vc Enterprise > Edition) any time (legally speaking. Who would be the force to decide on > such a move? Canonical? Is there any intention to make such a move at any > point in time? > > an LXC container behaves more like a VM then a docker or rkt container does > (machine- vs app-container), correct? Is it also larger in size? > > thanks for clarifying > > Gunnar > > > ___ > lxc-users mailing list > lxc-users@lists.linuxcontainers.org > http://lists.linuxcontainers.org/listinfo/lxc-users ___ lxc-users mailing list lxc-users@lists.linuxcontainers.org http://lists.linuxcontainers.org/listinfo/lxc-users
[lxc-users] basic understanding - clarification sought
hi everybody, I am a novice to LXC/LXD and am trying to get a basic understanding together. I have grasped some things which I am not sure about whether I got them wrong or write. Maybe this groups is able and willing to confirm or set things straight for me 1. if you run LXD the lxc commands used are different from the lxc commands used when running 'bare' lxc (for example 'lxc list' vs 'lxc-ls --fancy')? 2. LXD runs on the Apache License 2.0 (same as Docker engine) so it could happen the same thing to lxd (being divided into Community vc Enterprise Edition) any time (legally speaking. Who would be the force to decide on such a move? Canonical? Is there any intention to make such a move at any point in time? 3. an LXC container behaves more like a VM then a docker or rkt container does (machine- vs app-container), correct? Is it also larger in size? thanks for clarifying Gunnar ___ lxc-users mailing list lxc-users@lists.linuxcontainers.org http://lists.linuxcontainers.org/listinfo/lxc-users
Re: [lxc-users] next planned release?
On Fri, Apr 07, 2017 at 11:43:56AM +0300, Dan Milon wrote: > Hey everyone, > > I'm getting bitten a lot by the issue that this MR fixes > https://github.com/lxc/lxc/pull/1432 > > Is there a planned release that will include this fix? > AFAIK latest release was in Jan 23rd, so it's been some time since. > > Thanks, > Dan. Plan is for a new set of bugfix release over the next couple of weeks. -- Stéphane Graber Ubuntu developer http://www.ubuntu.com signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ lxc-users mailing list lxc-users@lists.linuxcontainers.org http://lists.linuxcontainers.org/listinfo/lxc-users
[lxc-users] lxc-starts fails to start image
Hey guys! I just tried to build an image, which appears to have gone successfully. However, when I try to start it, I get the following error: lxc_container: cgmanager.c: lxc_cgmanager_create: 301 call to cgmanager_create_sync failed: invalid request lxc_container: cgmanager.c: lxc_cgmanager_create: 303 Failed to create pids:lxc/base_image lxc_container: cgmanager.c: cgm_create: 650 Error creating cgroup pids:lxc/base_image lxc_container: start.c: lxc_spawn: 910 failed creating cgroups lxc_container: start.c: __lxc_start: 1149 failed to spawn 'base_image' lxc_container: lxc_start.c: main: 341 The container failed to start. lxc_container: lxc_start.c: main: 345 Additional information can be obtained by setting the --logfile and --logpriority options. A (copyable and pastable) demonstration: https://asciinema.org/a/1ne5v71s24s1iaxz1giy6e3wh output of uname -r: 4.4.0-72-generic This was previously working, but I can't figure out whats going wrong. -- Nicholas Chambers Technical Support Specialist nchamb...@lightspeedsystems.com 1.800.444.9267 www.lightspeedsystems.com ___ lxc-users mailing list lxc-users@lists.linuxcontainers.org http://lists.linuxcontainers.org/listinfo/lxc-users
[lxc-users] next planned release?
Hey everyone, I'm getting bitten a lot by the issue that this MR fixes https://github.com/lxc/lxc/pull/1432 Is there a planned release that will include this fix? AFAIK latest release was in Jan 23rd, so it's been some time since. Thanks, Dan. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ lxc-users mailing list lxc-users@lists.linuxcontainers.org http://lists.linuxcontainers.org/listinfo/lxc-users
