Re: [Lxde-list] Problems with posting messages to lxde-debian mailing list

2013-10-29 Thread Andrej N. Gritsenko
Hello!

Bob Bib has written on Tuesday, 29 October, at  2:26:
On 2013-10-28 I've received some messages
(a copy of Debian FTP Masters bounces for the freshly uploaded 
gpicview/0.2.4-1)
from lxde-deb...@lists.lxde.org. For the first time. It's wonderful.

I always receive letters from Debian FTP Masters in the lxde-debian@
mailing list, that part functions well. :)

Let's see if it accepts the current message...

I saw your letter only in lxde-list@, not in lxde-debian@, I'm sorry.


Best wishes, Bob

Cheers!
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Re: [Lxde-list] Problems with posting messages to lxde-debian mailing list

2013-10-29 Thread Bob Bib
Tue, 29 Oct 2013, 10:37 +02:00 from Andrej N. Gritsenko:
 I always receive letters from Debian FTP Masters in the lxde-debian@
 mailing list, that part functions well. :)
 
 Let's see if it accepts the current message...
 
 I saw your letter only in lxde-list@, not in lxde-debian@, I'm sorry.

Yep...
By the way, I received your letter via lists.lxde.org:

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 http://lists.lxde.org/listinfo/lxde-debian

So currently it looks like at least forwarding messages to subscribers works :)


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Re: [Lxde-list] Problems with posting messages to lxde-debian mailing list

2013-10-28 Thread Bob Bib
Hello everybody.

On 2013-10-28 I've received some messages
(a copy of Debian FTP Masters bounces for the freshly uploaded 
gpicview/0.2.4-1)
from lxde-deb...@lists.lxde.org. For the first time. It's wonderful.

Let's see if it accepts the current message...


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Re: [Lxde-list] Problems with posting messages to lxde-debian mailing list

2013-10-18 Thread Daniel Baumann
On 10/17/2013 02:45 AM, Andrej N. Gritsenko wrote:
 I'm not sure if that is right that I don't get my mails back.

check if your subscription is set to 'nomail' or 'no-own-mail'.

 And I believe mails from non-members should not be
 silently ignored

they are not ignored, they are moderated.

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Re: [Lxde-list] Problems with posting messages to lxde-debian mailing list

2013-10-18 Thread Martin Bagge / brother
On 2013-10-16 00:50, Andrew Lee wrote:
 Would you have time to manage the list admin?

Sure. NP.
What do I need?

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Re: [Lxde-list] Problems with posting messages to lxde-debian mailing list

2013-10-18 Thread Bob Bib
Thu, 17 Oct 2013, 19:52 +02:00 from Daniel Baumann:
 On 10/17/2013 07:10 PM, Bob Bib wrote:
 ...
  Usually mailing list software sends a notification
  about non-subscriber's message held for moderation.
 
 like i said, i turned that off. when i was moderating the list since
 (for such low traffic lists) i was fast enough in whitelisting people.
 as a user, i prefer that over the annoying 'held for moderation' mails.

Notifications... it's a matter of taste really.

Currently those lists are lacking moderation.
Maybe, we should allow all messages, adding a Report spam button?

Fri, 18 Oct 2013, 11:09 +02:00 from Martin Bagge / brother:
 On 2013-10-16 00:50, Andrew Lee wrote:
  Would you have time to manage the list admin?
 
 Sure. NP.
 What do I need?

I don't know really, but someone surely
needs to log into lists.lxde.org as administrator
and look what's going there, check the logs etc. :)

Those mailing lists silently devour the non-members' messages
(and sometimes subscribers' messages too)...

We've been already debugging it here theoritically for some time :)


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Re: [Lxde-list] Problems with posting messages to lxde-debian mailing list

2013-10-17 Thread Bob Bib
Thu, 17 Oct 2013, 6:23 +02:00 from Daniel Baumann 
daniel.baum...@progress-technologies.net:
 On 10/17/2013 02:45 AM, Andrej N. Gritsenko wrote:
 ...
  And I believe mails from non-members should not be
  silently ignored
 
 they are not ignored, they are moderated.

Are you sure?
Usually mailing list software sends a notification
about non-subscriber's message held for moderation.

Anyway, this doesn't explain silent ignoring of messages
of some lists subscribers like me.


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Re: [Lxde-list] Problems with posting messages to lxde-debian mailing list

2013-10-16 Thread Daniel Baumann
On 10/16/2013 12:50 AM, Andrew Lee wrote:
 Would you mind to help us for the spam filter issue on lists.lxde.org
 http://lists.lxde.org?

unless someone changed anything from when i did the setup some time ago,
there's no spam filtering, just silent-members-only which is imho the
best way for small traffic lists to avoid spam.

i didn't follow the discussion, what is the actual problem?

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Re: [Lxde-list] Problems with posting messages to lxde-debian mailing list

2013-10-16 Thread Andrej N. Gritsenko
Hello!

You have written on Wednesday, 16 October, at  7:26:
On 10/16/2013 12:50 AM, Andrew Lee wrote:
 Would you mind to help us for the spam filter issue on lists.lxde.org
 http://lists.lxde.org?

unless someone changed anything from when i did the setup some time ago,
there's no spam filtering, just silent-members-only which is imho the
best way for small traffic lists to avoid spam.

i didn't follow the discussion, what is the actual problem?

I'm not sure if that is right that I don't get my mails back. They
are in archive though. And I believe mails from non-members should not be
silently ignored since that address is somewhat official address of the
Debian LXDE Maintainers so users may (and will) write there in regards of
debian packaging issues, and if their mails are ignored, users will think
Debian LXDE maintainers are MIA. Probably something non-silent would be
better.

With best regards.
Andriy.

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Re: [Lxde-list] Problems with posting messages to lxde-debian mailing list

2013-10-16 Thread Andrej N. Gritsenko
Hello!

I have written on Thursday, 17 October, at  3:45:
  I'm not sure if that is right that I don't get my mails back.

It seems I get them back now! Test message wasn't back but now they are.
But still no mails from Andrew Lee nor from Bob Bib are in archive...

Cheers!
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Re: [Lxde-list] Problems with posting messages to lxde-debian mailing list

2013-10-16 Thread Bob Bib
Wed, 16 Oct 2013, 7:26 +02:00 from Daniel Baumann:
 On 10/16/2013 12:50 AM, Andrew Lee wrote:
  Would you mind to help us for the spam filter issue on lists.lxde.org
  http://lists.lxde.org?
 
 unless someone changed anything from when i did the setup some time ago,
 there's no spam filtering, just silent-members-only which is imho the
 best way for small traffic lists to avoid spam.
 
 i didn't follow the discussion, what is the actual problem?

The messages I send to lxde-deb...@lists.lxde.org are silently ignored
and don't appear in list archives.
I've even subscribed to that list, but it changes nothing,

And sysad...@lists.lxde.org doesn't look reachable either.


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Re: [Lxde-list] Problems with posting messages to lxde-debian mailing list

2013-10-15 Thread Andrew Lee
Hi Bob,

Sorry for the long long wait. I have been very busy and don't really know
the spam filter setup on lists.lxde.org.

@Daniel,
Would you mind to help us for the spam filter issue on lists.lxde.org?

And @Martin,
Would you have time to manage the list admin?

Best regards,

-Andrew



2013/10/15 Andrej N. Gritsenko and...@rep.kiev.ua

 Hello!

 Bob Bib has written on Monday, 14 October, at  5:56:
 I don't notice any progress there...

 Does anyone know
 who is the person behind sysadmin at lists.lxde.org,
 and can report the super-anti-spam problems at the mailing lists there? :)

 I believe Andrew Lee ajq...@debian.org is the person. Let wait him. :)

 With best wishes.
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Re: [Lxde-list] Problems with posting messages to lxde-debian mailing list

2013-10-13 Thread Bob Bib
I don't notice any progress there...

Does anyone know
who is the person behind sysadmin at lists.lxde.org,
and can report the super-anti-spam problems at the mailing lists there? :)


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