Re: [Lynx-dev] reaching google in basic html with lynx.
> I don't have persistent cookies on lynx, and the gmail login page > requires javascript. That does not match my experience. Maybe it's because my work account is already set up to use the basic HTML view, but unless it's changed in the last week or so I've been able to log in fine without JS. This is not to gmail proper, though, but to a small-company mail system hosted on Google's infrastructure. I don't know whether that distinction makes any difference here. They _do_, annoyingly, send me a mail each time I log in incorrectly claiming that I've logged in from a new Linux device - no, it's the same Linux device I've been using for years. But that is a minor annoyance as compared to having to use their webmail at all (which I have to because they claim my mail fetcher is too insecure, as if that weren't my choice to make - and without, of course, any indication what they consider secure enough, what hoops they would want my client to jump through before they'd let me fetch mail with it). /~\ The ASCII Mouse \ / Ribbon Campaign X Against HTMLmo...@rodents-montreal.org / \ Email! 7D C8 61 52 5D E7 2D 39 4E F1 31 3E E8 B3 27 4B
Re: [Lynx-dev] reaching google in basic html with lynx.
On Sat, 16 Oct 2021, Karen Lewellen wrote: Doesn't work in what way for you? The link does not activate, it does not produce the desired results, which? Google actually fixed the older basic html link I personally used to use for this. That being said, unless you have google account cookies in your lynx file that previously let you reach your gmail account or google account in lynx, it may not work either. Kare I don't have persistent cookies on lynx, and the gmail login page requires javascript. -- Zachary Lee Andrews
Re: [Lynx-dev] reaching google in basic html with lynx.
Hi Travis, Making sure your reply reaches the list. there may be others who wondered as I did. anyone know of an example of what Travis means here? I used google to search for years without needing an account, only getting one as a way to manage files as outlined. that, and for research, my second address, which I can no longer reach directly because of Google's claim that only hackers turn off JavaScript. Kare On Sat, 16 Oct 2021, Travis Siegel wrote: Honestly, I can't remember who wanted me to have the gmail address, but I do remember it irritated me to no end. It may have been one (or more) of the various private label rights softwares I've purchased over the years, or it may even have been google itself, since everytime you connect to it (if it's the default search engine in your browser), it always asks you to login, and the stupid login screen kept getting in the way, and sometimes caused me to loos my place on the web page, so I finally gave in, setup a google mail account, then ignored it entirely. I have no idea if I ever got any email to that account or not, and I don't even know what the password is to log back into it if chrome ever forgets the password, but honestly I don't care, because I have no intention of ever using it. I have my own email addresses, and don't need another one just because some stupid website wanted me to have it. On 10/16/2021 9:09 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote: Hi Travis, I am curious. can you share examples of sites that require a gmail account? And yet do not need you to confirm anything by sending you an email to that account? Speaking personally, the basic html edition of gmail is profoundly needful for me, especially as often things like pdf attachments get automatically converted to html, and in lynx become plan text. Same for word and docx files. still, I am personally unaware of a site that requires the use of gmail, the option to sign up with your gmail account, yes, but not an actual mandate. Do you mind sharing your experiences with this? Karen On Sat, 16 Oct 2021, Travis Siegel wrote: > For what it's worth, when I clicked on that link, it brought me to the > google page, and asked me if I was sure I wanted to turn on the html > only (or whatever it was) feature of gmail. I have a gmail account > only because some sites require it. I have never once actually checked > said mail, and never plan to. > > But, it did work. > > On 10/16/2021 4:30 AM, Bela Lubkin wrote: > > > On Wed, 13 Oct 2021, Karen Lewellen wrote: > > > > Sharing this, in case it helps others. > > > > > > -- Forwarded message -- > > > > Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2021 19:51:07 + > > > > > > https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/h/1pq68r75kzvdr/?v%3Dlui > > Zachary Lee Andrews replied: > > > > > Am I missing something, the only thing I see in your message is a > > gmail > > > URL that doesn't work... > > Right, gmail URLs are per-person. mail.google.com/mail/u/0 is the > > mailbox of *your* primary logged-in google ID. For anyone else, > > that > > URL means 'the message with this hash key in *my* mailbox', which is > > vanishingly unlikely to exist; and if it did, it wouldn't be the > > same > > message anyway. > > > > If you want to forward text out of a gmail message, you need to > > forward > > the text, not a gmail URL... > > > > > Bela< > > PS: apologies to Zachary for mistakenly sending 1st copy of this to > > him > > > >
Re: [Lynx-dev] reaching google in basic html with lynx.
Hi Travis, I am curious. can you share examples of sites that require a gmail account? And yet do not need you to confirm anything by sending you an email to that account? Speaking personally, the basic html edition of gmail is profoundly needful for me, especially as often things like pdf attachments get automatically converted to html, and in lynx become plan text. Same for word and docx files. still, I am personally unaware of a site that requires the use of gmail, the option to sign up with your gmail account, yes, but not an actual mandate. Do you mind sharing your experiences with this? Karen On Sat, 16 Oct 2021, Travis Siegel wrote: For what it's worth, when I clicked on that link, it brought me to the google page, and asked me if I was sure I wanted to turn on the html only (or whatever it was) feature of gmail. I have a gmail account only because some sites require it. I have never once actually checked said mail, and never plan to. But, it did work. On 10/16/2021 4:30 AM, Bela Lubkin wrote: > On Wed, 13 Oct 2021, Karen Lewellen wrote: > > Sharing this, in case it helps others. > > > > -- Forwarded message -- > > Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2021 19:51:07 + > > > > https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/h/1pq68r75kzvdr/?v%3Dlui Zachary Lee Andrews replied: > Am I missing something, the only thing I see in your message is a gmail > URL that doesn't work... Right, gmail URLs are per-person. mail.google.com/mail/u/0 is the mailbox of *your* primary logged-in google ID. For anyone else, that URL means 'the message with this hash key in *my* mailbox', which is vanishingly unlikely to exist; and if it did, it wouldn't be the same message anyway. If you want to forward text out of a gmail message, you need to forward the text, not a gmail URL... > Bela< PS: apologies to Zachary for mistakenly sending 1st copy of this to him
Re: [Lynx-dev] reaching google in basic html with lynx.
On Sat, 16 Oct 2021, Zachary Lee Andrews wrote: Hi, Am I missing something, the only thing I see in your message is a gmail URL that doesn't work... Doesn't work in what way for you? The link does not activate, it does not produce the desired results, which? Google actually fixed the older basic html link I personally used to use for this. That being said, unless you have google account cookies in your lynx file that previously let you reach your gmail account or google account in lynx, it may not work either. Kare
Re: [Lynx-dev] reaching google in basic html with lynx.
For what it's worth, when I clicked on that link, it brought me to the google page, and asked me if I was sure I wanted to turn on the html only (or whatever it was) feature of gmail. I have a gmail account only because some sites require it. I have never once actually checked said mail, and never plan to. But, it did work. On 10/16/2021 4:30 AM, Bela Lubkin wrote: On Wed, 13 Oct 2021, Karen Lewellen wrote: Sharing this, in case it helps others. -- Forwarded message -- Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2021 19:51:07 + https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/h/1pq68r75kzvdr/?v%3Dlui Zachary Lee Andrews replied: Am I missing something, the only thing I see in your message is a gmail URL that doesn't work... Right, gmail URLs are per-person. mail.google.com/mail/u/0 is the mailbox of *your* primary logged-in google ID. For anyone else, that URL means 'the message with this hash key in *my* mailbox', which is vanishingly unlikely to exist; and if it did, it wouldn't be the same message anyway. If you want to forward text out of a gmail message, you need to forward the text, not a gmail URL... Bela< PS: apologies to Zachary for mistakenly sending 1st copy of this to him
Re: [Lynx-dev] reaching google in basic html with lynx.
> On Wed, 13 Oct 2021, Karen Lewellen wrote: > > > > Sharing this, in case it helps others. > > > > -- Forwarded message -- > > Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2021 19:51:07 + > > > > https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/h/1pq68r75kzvdr/?v%3Dlui Zachary Lee Andrews replied: > Am I missing something, the only thing I see in your message is a gmail > URL that doesn't work... Right, gmail URLs are per-person. mail.google.com/mail/u/0 is the mailbox of *your* primary logged-in google ID. For anyone else, that URL means 'the message with this hash key in *my* mailbox', which is vanishingly unlikely to exist; and if it did, it wouldn't be the same message anyway. If you want to forward text out of a gmail message, you need to forward the text, not a gmail URL... >Bela< PS: apologies to Zachary for mistakenly sending 1st copy of this to him
