Re: Nerdy description of LyX at Macupdate.com isn't useful

2012-11-13 Thread Pavel Sanda
Jerry wrote:
> > Jerry wrote:
> >> With apologies to whoever wrote this description and knowing that I've 
> >> sounded a little harsh, maybe it would be a good idea to consider a more 
> >> generally appealing description. I suspect that this idea could be applied 
> >> in other scenarios to better publicize LyX.
> > 
> > I'm sceptical that anyone affiliated with Macupdate.com is reading this 
> > list.
> > Pavel
> 
> The descriptions on macupdate.com are generally provided by the software 
> authors/publishers. I suppose in the case of open source software the 
> description could be supplied by anyone--maybe that is what happened in this 
> case. However, if someone officially affiliated with the LyX project were to 
> contact the site's owner with an updated description, it would be readily 
> accepted. (The software listing is lightly curated and even minor suggestions 
> by users are read.)

Yes, so we grant you to speak as LyX delegate to macupdate.com :)
You are part of this community for some time anyway, so do your best...

Pavel


Re: Windows Binaries?

2012-11-13 Thread Richard Heck

On 11/13/2012 06:09 PM, Uwe Stöhr wrote:

Am 13.11.2012 19:23, schrieb Richard Heck:

https://sourceforge.net/projects/lyxwininstaller/files/LyXWinInstaller/2.0.5/ 



Please remove the old version LyX-205-1 and replace it with LyX-205-2.


Done.


Hello Richard,

I just noticed that the old version 1 is still at the ftp page:
ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/bin/2.0.5/

Can you please remove it after you uploaded version 2 of the bundle 
installer (see my previous mail)?



I'll grab it.

I'm inclined to leave the old versions on the ftp site, as we leave 
older versions of LyX, as well. Someone might have reason to want an 
older version at some point.


Richard



Re: Nerdy description of LyX at Macupdate.com isn't useful

2012-11-13 Thread Jerry

On Nov 13, 2012, at 2:45 PM, Pavel Sanda wrote:

> Jerry wrote:
>> With apologies to whoever wrote this description and knowing that I've 
>> sounded a little harsh, maybe it would be a good idea to consider a more 
>> generally appealing description. I suspect that this idea could be applied 
>> in other scenarios to better publicize LyX.
> 
> I'm sceptical that anyone affiliated with Macupdate.com is reading this list.
> Pavel

The descriptions on macupdate.com are generally provided by the software 
authors/publishers. I suppose in the case of open source software the 
description could be supplied by anyone--maybe that is what happened in this 
case. However, if someone officially affiliated with the LyX project were to 
contact the site's owner with an updated description, it would be readily 
accepted. (The software listing is lightly curated and even minor suggestions 
by users are read.)

BTW, macupdate is an extremely popular site to learn about new software 
releases, not an obscure backwater, and is probably the most popular of its 
kind for Macs, especially since versiontracker was ruined a few years ago. For 
example, as of today, it lists 29,352 downloads of LyX.

Jerry

Re: Windows Binaries?

2012-11-13 Thread Uwe Stöhr

Am 13.11.2012 19:23, schrieb Richard Heck:


https://sourceforge.net/projects/lyxwininstaller/files/LyXWinInstaller/2.0.5/

Please remove the old version LyX-205-1 and replace it with LyX-205-2.


Done.


Hello Richard,

I just noticed that the old version 1 is still at the ftp page:
ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/bin/2.0.5/

Can you please remove it after you uploaded version 2 of the bundle installer 
(see my previous mail)?

thanks and regards
Uwe


Re: #8387: use nicer fonts in splash.lyx

2012-11-13 Thread Uwe Stöhr

Am 01.11.2012 01:10, schrieb Liviu Andronic:


I proposed to use Latin Modern fonts in splash.lyx as:
- the default choice of fonts in LyX is bitmap, and ugly



This is not true anymore. Please show me a screenshot where the font look
pixeld in normal magnification.


I most certainly missed that. Last time this discussion was held it
was pointed out that the default choice of fonts in LyX was bitmap.
This no longer seems to be the case.


You misunderstood me. The default font depends on our LaTeX configuration and I guess this is in 
many cases still the bitmap version of the ComputerModern fonts. I was referring to the fact that 
almost every PDF or DVI viewer can render also bitmap fonts so that they don't look pixeled. (One 
only sees the different to vector fonts when zooming in.)


regards Uwe


Re: Windows Binaries?

2012-11-13 Thread Uwe Stöhr

Am 13.11.2012 19:23, schrieb Richard Heck:


https://sourceforge.net/projects/lyxwininstaller/files/LyXWinInstaller/2.0.5/

Please remove the old version LyX-205-1 and replace it with LyX-205-2.


Done.


I noticed that sourceforge had problems so that the bundle installer was not updated. Now it is. Can 
you please grab the new bundle installer?


thanks and regards
Uwe


Re: Nerdy description of LyX at Macupdate.com isn't useful

2012-11-13 Thread Pavel Sanda
Jerry wrote:
> With apologies to whoever wrote this description and knowing that I've 
> sounded a little harsh, maybe it would be a good idea to consider a more 
> generally appealing description. I suspect that this idea could be applied in 
> other scenarios to better publicize LyX.

I'm sceptical that anyone affiliated with Macupdate.com is reading this list.
Pavel


Nerdy description of LyX at Macupdate.com isn't useful

2012-11-13 Thread Jerry
The announcement for LyX 2.0.5 appeared today on Macupdate.com. Here is the 
description given there:

"LyX is a fully fuctional WYSIWYM (what you see is what you mean) frontend for 
LaTeX wnich allows users with no programming knowledge to get the full benefits 
of LaTeX. It differs from products such as TeTeX as one needs to know no code 
and can simply write and mark any text as a footnote of chapter heading etc., 
and then hit the PDF button to get a perfectly formatted output."

Is this really what should appear as a short description of LyX? It is totally 
an insider's description and has little meaning to most potential users. It 
seems that the audience is people looking for a high-end word processor (yes, I 
said word processor) with capabilities lacking in all other (speaking for the 
Macintosh world, at least) word processors. To present it as a "frontend for 
LaTeX" and comparing it to TeTeX will leave most of the potential audience 
wondering, what the hell is LaTeX and TeTex and why do these people not know 
basic capitalization rules, and then roundly ignoring it.

With apologies to whoever wrote this description and knowing that I've sounded 
a little harsh, maybe it would be a good idea to consider a more generally 
appealing description. I suspect that this idea could be applied in other 
scenarios to better publicize LyX.

Jerry

Re: Why do CVS::file_ and SVN file_ exist?

2012-11-13 Thread Pavel Sanda
Georg Baum wrote:
> It was easy to verify that owner_ is always set. I also made it more clear 
> that it should never change by making it a const member.

I meant that the buffer to which owner_ points to must remain alive.
Quick peek at Buffer.cpp shows it should be fine during reload.
Pavel


Re: Why do CVS::file_ and SVN file_ exist?

2012-11-13 Thread Georg Baum
Pavel Sanda wrote:

> Georg Baum wrote:
>> What do you prefer?
> 
> No hard opinion, but if you are going to ditch it please make sure
> that owner_ object is living all the time and does not get invalid for
> a critical moment when reloading buffer or so (this kind of robustness
> against changes in various bufferReload routines elsewhere would justify
> file_ existence). IIRC owner_ is not destroyed at all, but longer time
> I saw that code...

It was easy to verify that owner_ is always set. I also made it more clear 
that it should never change by making it a const member.


Georg



Re: Error with syctex=-1 and lib/doc/Additional.lyx

2012-11-13 Thread Kornel Benko
Am Montag, 12. November 2012 um 23:48:43, schrieb Kayvan Sylvan 

> When trying to view (pdflatex, or ps2pdf) the output of
> lib/doc/Additional.lyx, I get the following error:
> 
> ! Undefined control sequence.
> l.11 \synctex
>  =-1
> The control sequence at the end of the top line
> of your error message was never \def'ed. If you have
> misspelled it (e.g., `\hobx'), type `I' and the correct
> spelling (e.g., `I\hbox'). Otherwise just continue,
> and I'll forget about whatever was undefined.
> 
> The complete log file is reproduced here. Any ideas for how to get around
> this? Thanks!

Maybe you have checked
Document->Settings...->Output->Synchronize with Output

Kornel

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