Re: Depth in/decrease used as equivalent to outline in/out
On Tuesday, 1 February 2022 14.33.49 WET Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > Note that shift-tab for depth does not always have a local scope either, > since it may change the depth of nested sub elements. Yes, I know and it was a sloppy language. :-) A better expression would be a waterfall model and so it would be waterfall scope. :-) In the worst case it can topple until the end but it behaves differently from what it does now. 1. A 1.1 B 1.1.1 C 1.1.1.1 D It goes to 1. A 2. B 2.1 C 2.1.1 D -- José Abílio -- lyx-devel mailing list lyx-devel@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-devel
Re: Depth in/decrease used as equivalent to outline in/out
On 01/02/2022 11:23, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Hello, I am looking for feedback about https://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/12417 Basically, now Tab and the depth icons invoke outline in/out when on a sectioning layout. Do you find that this is confusing? The fact is that these two bindings have different behavior on layouts that follow the current one. Outline stuff is more global (and somewhat broken, see #9375). The ticket asks to revert b08791f7 (icons) and 31398779/9ab9f2b1 (Tab key). What are your thought about this functionality? JMarc Note also that it is currently not possible to decrease list depth of a heading by tab key or toolbar button, e.g. when one has for whatever reason (it's an actual use case I had) ended up with a heading at some depth level like 1. Main [ (a) Sub [ Section Daniel -- lyx-devel mailing list lyx-devel@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-devel
Re: Depth in/decrease used as equivalent to outline in/out
Le 01/02/2022 à 15:27, José Abílio Matos a écrit : I was surprised by it. I was expecting for Tab to have a local scope. It was surprising to me that it affected all the sections at the same level below that paragraph. I was expecting a behavior similar to what it happens for lists and enumerations. Note that shift-tab for depth does not always have a local scope either, since it may change the depth of nested sub elements. The current behavior is also surprising in the sense that, at least in the examples I tested, Shift-Tab works by promoting a (sub*)section but Tab does not demotes it (at least here it is consistent with listing and enumerations). Also as it is if we have: 1. A 2. B 2.1 C 2.2 D And press Shift-Tab in 2. we get: 1. A 2. B 3. C 4. D My expectation was for this to become a no-op since it is not possible to promote 2. B anymore. Is this the feedback you are expecting? This is interesting in terms of brokenness of outline-* functions. This would an argument for exposing them separately (they do have their own shortcuts) and merging this with depth stuff yet. JMarc -- lyx-devel mailing list lyx-devel@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-devel
Re: Depth in/decrease used as equivalent to outline in/out
On Tuesday, 1 February 2022 10.23.41 WET Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > Hello, > > I am looking for feedback about > https://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/12417 > > Basically, now Tab and the depth icons invoke outline in/out when on a > sectioning layout. > > Do you find that this is confusing? The fact is that these two bindings > have different behavior on layouts that follow the current one. Outline > stuff is more global (and somewhat broken, see #9375). > > The ticket asks to revert b08791f7 (icons) and 31398779/9ab9f2b1 (Tab > key). What are your thought about this functionality? > > JMarc I was surprised by it. I was expecting for Tab to have a local scope. It was surprising to me that it affected all the sections at the same level below that paragraph. I was expecting a behavior similar to what it happens for lists and enumerations. The current behavior is also surprising in the sense that, at least in the examples I tested, Shift-Tab works by promoting a (sub*)section but Tab does not demotes it (at least here it is consistent with listing and enumerations). Also as it is if we have: 1. A 2. B 2.1 C 2.2 D And press Shift-Tab in 2. we get: 1. A 2. B 3. C 4. D My expectation was for this to become a no-op since it is not possible to promote 2. B anymore. Is this the feedback you are expecting? Best regards, -- José Abílio -- lyx-devel mailing list lyx-devel@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-devel
Re: Depth in/decrease used as equivalent to outline in/out
Am Tue, 1 Feb 2022 11:23:41 +0100 schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes : > Hello, > > I am looking for feedback about > https://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/12417 > > Basically, now Tab and the depth icons invoke outline in/out when on a > sectioning layout. > > Do you find that this is confusing? The fact is that these two bindings > have different behavior on layouts that follow the current one. Outline > stuff is more global (and somewhat broken, see #9375). > > The ticket asks to revert b08791f7 (icons) and 31398779/9ab9f2b1 (Tab > key). What are your thought about this functionality? > > JMarc For me it is OK as it is now. -1 to revert. Kornel pgpCjqPVZeQBR.pgp Description: Digitale Signatur von OpenPGP -- lyx-devel mailing list lyx-devel@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-devel
Re: Why do we add converters in frontends GuiPrefs.cpp?
On Sunday, 2 January 2022 21.19.14 WET Pavel Sanda wrote: > Most likely my doing. > These are just suggestions in drop-down menu you can use or edit in > your settings. I do not see much merit in moving it to configure > (they are not automagically used). > > Pavel That makes sense. Thank you. -- José Abílio-- lyx-devel mailing list lyx-devel@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-devel
Depth in/decrease used as equivalent to outline in/out
Hello, I am looking for feedback about https://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/12417 Basically, now Tab and the depth icons invoke outline in/out when on a sectioning layout. Do you find that this is confusing? The fact is that these two bindings have different behavior on layouts that follow the current one. Outline stuff is more global (and somewhat broken, see #9375). The ticket asks to revert b08791f7 (icons) and 31398779/9ab9f2b1 (Tab key). What are your thought about this functionality? JMarc -- lyx-devel mailing list lyx-devel@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-devel
