Re: #7023: LyX installer doesn't allow language GUI choice

2011-02-14 Thread Christian del Castillo 
Problem still is - I work in Korea, with a PC in English Win XP, but Lyx
installed into Japanese version for me.

-It is useless for Koreans, they couldn't understand Japanese.
-What if I were an expat, and couldn't understand Japanese, a lot of PhD and
PostDocs are like that, and I think Lyx is targetted to these kind of
people.
-What about expats in other parts of the world? will they automatically get
the gui language for the region they are in? just ask any expat trying to
hurdle  language problems aside from normal work how difficult that is.

I was able to change the menu language after several hours BECAUSE I lived
in Japan for 10 years and can understand Japanese, but not a lot.

Obviously, the way Lyx handles this is not good enough.

I wrote to you because I do a lot of editing work, and have never been
satisfied with MSWord. I thought that Lyx is the superior product for
manuscript composition. I really want to recommend Lyx, but most of my peers
are expats and probably understand less Japanese than I.

Luckily, there's Uwe's version where I can install to the language ui of my
choice, I can and will recommend that version to people I know.

Thank you.

=
'Christian' Carmelo del Castillo, Ph.D.
Aquatic Biotechnology Center,
Gyeongsang National University,
TEL: +82-55-751-6732 FAX: +82-55-762-6733
MOBILE: +82-01-5737-1521
e-mail: chia...@msn.com


On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 9:05 AM, LyX Ticket Tracker t...@lyx.org wrote:

 #7023: LyX installer doesn't allow language GUI choice

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  Reporter:  chiandc|Owner:  uwestoehr
  Type:  defect |   Status:  closed
  Priority:  normal |Milestone:
 Component:  windows-installer  |  Version:  1.6.7
  Severity:  normal |   Resolution:  wontfix
  Keywords: |

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 Changes (by joost):

  * status:  new = closed
  * resolution:  = wontfix


 Comment:

  A few months ago the language selection in the official installer was
  removed on purpose, because LyX itself already handles this.

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 Ticket URL: http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/7023#comment:3
 The LyX Project http://www.lyx.org/
 LyX -- The Document Processor

Re: #7023: LyX installer doesn't allow language GUI choice

2011-02-14 Thread Christian del Castillo 
Problem still is - I work in Korea, with a PC in English Win XP, but Lyx
installed into Japanese version for me.

-It is useless for Koreans, they couldn't understand Japanese.
-What if I were an expat, and couldn't understand Japanese, a lot of PhD and
PostDocs are like that, and I think Lyx is targetted to these kind of
people.
-What about expats in other parts of the world? will they automatically get
the gui language for the region they are in? just ask any expat trying to
hurdle  language problems aside from normal work how difficult that is.

I was able to change the menu language after several hours BECAUSE I lived
in Japan for 10 years and can understand Japanese, but not a lot.

Obviously, the way Lyx handles this is not good enough.

I wrote to you because I do a lot of editing work, and have never been
satisfied with MSWord. I thought that Lyx is the superior product for
manuscript composition. I really want to recommend Lyx, but most of my peers
are expats and probably understand less Japanese than I.

Luckily, there's Uwe's version where I can install to the language ui of my
choice, I can and will recommend that version to people I know.

Thank you.

=
'Christian' Carmelo del Castillo, Ph.D.
Aquatic Biotechnology Center,
Gyeongsang National University,
TEL: +82-55-751-6732 FAX: +82-55-762-6733
MOBILE: +82-01-5737-1521
e-mail: chia...@msn.com


On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 9:05 AM, LyX Ticket Tracker  wrote:

> #7023: LyX installer doesn't allow language GUI choice
>
> ---+
>  Reporter:  chiandc|Owner:  uwestoehr
>  Type:  defect |   Status:  closed
>  Priority:  normal |Milestone:
> Component:  windows-installer  |  Version:  1.6.7
>  Severity:  normal |   Resolution:  wontfix
>  Keywords: |
>
> ---+
> Changes (by joost):
>
>  * status:  new => closed
>  * resolution:  => wontfix
>
>
> Comment:
>
>  A few months ago the language selection in the official installer was
>  removed on purpose, because LyX itself already handles this.
>
> --
> Ticket URL: 
> The LyX Project 
> LyX -- The Document Processor
>

how to change GUI Language

2010-10-28 Thread Christian del Castillo 
I am also posting these suggestions in the developer's mailing list

This is a post I made at the LaTex forum, fortunately for me the issue was
addressed and solved by a kind user showing a picture of how the menu should
look like in English, from there I was able to GUESSTIMATE which menu
entries I should be manipulating, despite not completely understanding the
language my GUI was in.

I was also going to the mail archive, and the way I understandit is that LyX
will detect the system language and adjust GUI accordingly, however in my
case, the system language was in English, my IP address Korean, the only
Japanese setting I had was in 'Language to display non-unicode characters'
in. So, why did the installer decide on Japanese in the first place?

here is a link to my post on the LaTex forum:
http://www.latex-community.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=19t=10613p=41052#p41052

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I think this is a very major issue, as it can affect first time users, and
turn them off completely from the software if not addressed.
This is my first time to try LyX. I installed the package, and while doing
so was not given any option regarding the GUI language. After finally
completing the installation, Voila! the GUI was in JAPANESE!

-Problem 1) I am working in South Korea, I have language sets for my PC set
to enable both Korean and Japanese, but why did the install package choose
to be in Japanese? what would happen if I am Korean, for example, with
absolutely no knowledge of Japanese?
-Problem 2) I can speak, read, and write a LITTLE Japanese, but not that
much. If anybody will give me instructions on how to change the GUI language
I might have trouble looking for the relevant menu entry. If, for some
reason or another the GUI language became Korean, for example, I would have
absolutely no way of being able to look for the menu entry

So I suggest the ff:

Suggestion 1) Give the user the ability to CHOOSE preferred language on
install REGARDLESS of IP address (or whatever method was used to choose GUI
in my current situation)!
Suggestion 2) Make the menu entry to change the GUI language EASY TO FIND
and also IN A LANGUAGE DIFFERENT FROM THE CURRENT GUI, a lot of people would
want to change the GUI because they do not have enough ability in the
language in the first place.

=

Chris del Castillo, PhD
Gyeongsang National University
South Korea




-- 
=
'Christian' Carmelo del Castillo, PhD
Aquatic Biotechnology Center,
Gyeongsang National University, Republic of Korea
TEL: +82-55-751-6732 FAX: +82-55-762-6733
e-mail: chia...@msn.com

how to change GUI Language

2010-10-28 Thread Christian del Castillo 
I am also posting these suggestions in the developer's mailing list

This is a post I made at the LaTex forum, fortunately for me the issue was
addressed and solved by a kind user showing a picture of how the menu should
look like in English, from there I was able to GUESSTIMATE which menu
entries I should be manipulating, despite not completely understanding the
language my GUI was in.

I was also going to the mail archive, and the way I understandit is that LyX
will detect the system language and adjust GUI accordingly, however in my
case, the system language was in English, my IP address Korean, the only
Japanese setting I had was in 'Language to display non-unicode characters'
in. So, why did the installer decide on Japanese in the first place?

here is a link to my post on the LaTex forum:
http://www.latex-community.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=19=10613=41052#p41052

=

I think this is a very major issue, as it can affect first time users, and
turn them off completely from the software if not addressed.
This is my first time to try LyX. I installed the package, and while doing
so was not given any option regarding the GUI language. After finally
completing the installation, Voila! the GUI was in JAPANESE!

-Problem 1) I am working in South Korea, I have language sets for my PC set
to enable both Korean and Japanese, but why did the install package choose
to be in Japanese? what would happen if I am Korean, for example, with
absolutely no knowledge of Japanese?
-Problem 2) I can speak, read, and write a LITTLE Japanese, but not that
much. If anybody will give me instructions on how to change the GUI language
I might have trouble looking for the relevant menu entry. If, for some
reason or another the GUI language became Korean, for example, I would have
absolutely no way of being able to look for the menu entry

So I suggest the ff:

Suggestion 1) Give the user the ability to CHOOSE preferred language on
install REGARDLESS of IP address (or whatever method was used to choose GUI
in my current situation)!
Suggestion 2) Make the menu entry to change the GUI language EASY TO FIND
and also IN A LANGUAGE DIFFERENT FROM THE CURRENT GUI, a lot of people would
want to change the GUI because they do not have enough ability in the
language in the first place.

=

Chris del Castillo, PhD
Gyeongsang National University
South Korea




-- 
=
'Christian' Carmelo del Castillo, PhD
Aquatic Biotechnology Center,
Gyeongsang National University, Republic of Korea
TEL: +82-55-751-6732 FAX: +82-55-762-6733
e-mail: chia...@msn.com