Re: [LyX/master] DocBook: add a parameter to change the namespace prefix for MathML.

2021-03-25 Thread Pavel Sanda 
On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 10:15:45PM +0100, Thibaut Cuvelier wrote:
> That's right. I've updated the manual to indicate it. Is this better?

Looks good to me, thanks. Pavel
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Re: [LyX/master] DocBook: add a parameter to change the namespace prefix for MathML.

2021-03-24 Thread Thibaut Cuvelier 
On Wed, 24 Mar 2021 at 18:36, Pavel Sanda  wrote:

> On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 04:38:01PM +0100, Thibaut Cuvelier wrote:
> > On Wed, 24 Mar 2021 at 16:19, Pavel Sanda  wrote:
> >
> > > On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 11:25:55PM +0100, Thibaut Cuvelier wrote:
> > > > I have pushed a new section in d0120078fd. I think the most important
> > > > points for the user are documented there. Comments welcome :)!
> > >
> > > Hmm, even after reading about the prefix options I have no clue in what
> > > conditions or context should I choose either of them...
> > >
> >
> > It's a matter either of taste or of buggy tools (like Pandoc right now,
> but
> > others make similar assumptions about the prefix).
>
> Aha, so the proper context which we could state in the manual basically
> is that buggy docbook postprocessing tools (like currently pandoc)
> might require you to select different prefix for mathml content, right?
>

That's right. I've updated the manual to indicate it. Is this better?
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Re: [LyX/master] DocBook: add a parameter to change the namespace prefix for MathML.

2021-03-24 Thread Pavel Sanda 
On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 04:38:01PM +0100, Thibaut Cuvelier wrote:
> On Wed, 24 Mar 2021 at 16:19, Pavel Sanda  wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 11:25:55PM +0100, Thibaut Cuvelier wrote:
> > > I have pushed a new section in d0120078fd. I think the most important
> > > points for the user are documented there. Comments welcome :)!
> >
> > Hmm, even after reading about the prefix options I have no clue in what
> > conditions or context should I choose either of them...
> >
> 
> It's a matter either of taste or of buggy tools (like Pandoc right now, but
> others make similar assumptions about the prefix).

Aha, so the proper context which we could state in the manual basically
is that buggy docbook postprocessing tools (like currently pandoc) 
might require you to select different prefix for mathml content, right?

Pavel
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Re: [LyX/master] DocBook: add a parameter to change the namespace prefix for MathML.

2021-03-24 Thread Scott Kostyshak 
On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 11:27:35PM +0100, Thibaut Cuvelier wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Mar 2021 at 22:08, Richard Kimberly Heck 
> wrote:
> 
> > On 3/23/21 4:13 PM, Thibaut Cuvelier wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, 23 Mar 2021 at 15:48, Richard Kimberly Heck 
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On 3/22/21 7:33 PM, Thibaut Cuvelier wrote:
> >> > commit 0f782b0ded08953dbcde48f22d51ba87133bc029
> >> > Author: Thibaut Cuvelier 
> >> > Date:   Tue Mar 23 00:08:50 2021 +0100
> >> >
> >> > DocBook: add a parameter to change the namespace prefix for MathML.
> >>
> >> Any time the syntax of semantics of the LyX file itself changes, it's a
> >> format change, so: (1) Bump the document format; (2) Write a lyx2lyx
> >> routine to remove the new parameter; (3) Do what needs doing with
> >> tex2lyx. See lib/doc/Document.lyx, section 2.2.
> >>
> >
> > I had missed that, thanks for the notice. It should be corrected in the
> > new commit: 7a1e048f. There is nothing to add in tex2lyx, as its behaviour
> > should not change with this new parameter.
> >
> > The one last thing to do, then, is to update the tex2lyx tests. Otherwise,
> > Scott will very soon complain that they are all failing.
> >
> With CMake, according to the docs, it should just be running the
> updatetex2lyxtests target. However, it does not do a lot of things: in one
> hour, it only changed one file. Here is the patch:

I think that is the correct target. When I run that target, it takes 45
seconds and produced the diff that I committed at b2b68c3e. I went ahead
and committed the diff so that we can fix the tests while we work
through this issue.

Does it show which commands it is running in the terminal? If not,
perhaps you can look in the process manager? I attach my log for
comparison.

Scott
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Re: [LyX/master] DocBook: add a parameter to change the namespace prefix for MathML.

2021-03-24 Thread Scott Kostyshak 
On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 09:03:41AM +0100, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
> Am Dienstag, dem 23.03.2021 um 23:32 -0400 schrieb Richard Kimberly
> Heck:
> > I think those tests are worth having. There have been real bugs, I
> > believe.
> 
> Yes, definitely.

Good to know!

Scott


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Re: [LyX/master] DocBook: add a parameter to change the namespace prefix for MathML.

2021-03-24 Thread Thibaut Cuvelier 
On Wed, 24 Mar 2021 at 16:19, Pavel Sanda  wrote:

> On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 11:25:55PM +0100, Thibaut Cuvelier wrote:
> > I have pushed a new section in d0120078fd. I think the most important
> > points for the user are documented there. Comments welcome :)!
>
> Hmm, even after reading about the prefix options I have no clue in what
> conditions or context should I choose either of them...
>

It's a matter either of taste or of buggy tools (like Pandoc right now, but
others make similar assumptions about the prefix).
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Re: [LyX/master] DocBook: add a parameter to change the namespace prefix for MathML.

2021-03-24 Thread Pavel Sanda 
On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 11:25:55PM +0100, Thibaut Cuvelier wrote:
> I have pushed a new section in d0120078fd. I think the most important
> points for the user are documented there. Comments welcome :)!

Hmm, even after reading about the prefix options I have no clue in what
conditions or context should I choose either of them... 

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Re: [LyX/master] DocBook: add a parameter to change the namespace prefix for MathML.

2021-03-24 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller 
Am Dienstag, dem 23.03.2021 um 23:32 -0400 schrieb Richard Kimberly
Heck:
> I think those tests are worth having. There have been real bugs, I
> believe.

Yes, definitely.

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Re: [LyX/master] DocBook: add a parameter to change the namespace prefix for MathML.

2021-03-23 Thread Richard Kimberly Heck 

On 3/23/21 5:39 PM, Scott Kostyshak wrote:

On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 05:08:39PM -0400, Richard Kimberly Heck wrote:

On 3/23/21 4:13 PM, Thibaut Cuvelier wrote:

On Tue, 23 Mar 2021 at 15:48, Richard Kimberly Heck mailto:rikih...@lyx.org>> wrote:

 On 3/22/21 7:33 PM, Thibaut Cuvelier wrote:
 > commit 0f782b0ded08953dbcde48f22d51ba87133bc029
 > Author: Thibaut Cuvelier mailto:tcuvel...@lyx.org>>
 > Date:   Tue Mar 23 00:08:50 2021 +0100
 >
 >     DocBook: add a parameter to change the namespace prefix for
 MathML.

 Any time the syntax of semantics of the LyX file itself changes,
 it's a
 format change, so: (1) Bump the document format; (2) Write a lyx2lyx
 routine to remove the new parameter; (3) Do what needs doing with
 tex2lyx. See lib/doc/Document.lyx, section 2.2.


I had missed that, thanks for the notice. It should be corrected in the
new commit: 7a1e048f. There is nothing to add in tex2lyx, as its
behaviour should not change with this new parameter.

The one last thing to do, then, is to update the tex2lyx tests. Otherwise,
Scott will very soon complain that they are all failing.

True :). I would be fine, by the way, if the tests were removed. Have
they caught any bugs? Or rather, are they likely to catch bugs in the
future?


I think those tests are worth having. There have been real bugs, I believe.

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Re: [LyX/master] DocBook: add a parameter to change the namespace prefix for MathML.

2021-03-23 Thread Thibaut Cuvelier 
On Tue, 23 Mar 2021 at 22:08, Richard Kimberly Heck 
wrote:

> On 3/23/21 4:13 PM, Thibaut Cuvelier wrote:
>
> On Tue, 23 Mar 2021 at 15:48, Richard Kimberly Heck 
> wrote:
>
>> On 3/22/21 7:33 PM, Thibaut Cuvelier wrote:
>> > commit 0f782b0ded08953dbcde48f22d51ba87133bc029
>> > Author: Thibaut Cuvelier 
>> > Date:   Tue Mar 23 00:08:50 2021 +0100
>> >
>> > DocBook: add a parameter to change the namespace prefix for MathML.
>>
>> Any time the syntax of semantics of the LyX file itself changes, it's a
>> format change, so: (1) Bump the document format; (2) Write a lyx2lyx
>> routine to remove the new parameter; (3) Do what needs doing with
>> tex2lyx. See lib/doc/Document.lyx, section 2.2.
>>
>
> I had missed that, thanks for the notice. It should be corrected in the
> new commit: 7a1e048f. There is nothing to add in tex2lyx, as its behaviour
> should not change with this new parameter.
>
> The one last thing to do, then, is to update the tex2lyx tests. Otherwise,
> Scott will very soon complain that they are all failing.
>
With CMake, according to the docs, it should just be running the
updatetex2lyxtests target. However, it does not do a lot of things: in one
hour, it only changed one file. Here is the patch:

Index: src/tex2lyx/test/test.lyx.lyx
IDEA additional info:
Subsystem: com.intellij.openapi.diff.impl.patch.CharsetEP
<+>UTF-8
===
diff --git a/src/tex2lyx/test/test.lyx.lyx b/src/tex2lyx/test/test.lyx.lyx
--- a/src/tex2lyx/test/test.lyx.lyx (revision
d0120078fd1b36076ee77972de068cd459378e5a)
+++ b/src/tex2lyx/test/test.lyx.lyx (date 1616535391572)
@@ -1,5 +1,5 @@
 #LyX file created by tex2lyx 2.4
-\lyxformat 607
+\lyxformat 608
 \begin_document
 \begin_header
 \save_transient_properties true
@@ -89,6 +89,7 @@
 \html_css_as_file 0
 \html_be_strict false
 \docbook_table_output 0
+\docbook_mathml_prefix 1
 \end_header

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Re: [LyX/master] DocBook: add a parameter to change the namespace prefix for MathML.

2021-03-23 Thread Thibaut Cuvelier 
On Tue, 23 Mar 2021 at 21:49, Pavel Sanda  wrote:

> On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 09:37:07PM +0100, Thibaut Cuvelier wrote:
> > For now, I made a more explicit tool tip. In which part of the
> > documentation would you add this? I was thinking about adding a new
> section
> > in Additional, after the HTML section (before the LyX server).
>
> Yes, that's good location.
>

I have pushed a new section in d0120078fd. I think the most important
points for the user are documented there. Comments welcome :)!
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Re: [LyX/master] DocBook: add a parameter to change the namespace prefix for MathML.

2021-03-23 Thread Scott Kostyshak 
On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 05:08:39PM -0400, Richard Kimberly Heck wrote:
> On 3/23/21 4:13 PM, Thibaut Cuvelier wrote:
> > On Tue, 23 Mar 2021 at 15:48, Richard Kimberly Heck  > > wrote:
> > 
> > On 3/22/21 7:33 PM, Thibaut Cuvelier wrote:
> > > commit 0f782b0ded08953dbcde48f22d51ba87133bc029
> > > Author: Thibaut Cuvelier  > >
> > > Date:   Tue Mar 23 00:08:50 2021 +0100
> > >
> > >     DocBook: add a parameter to change the namespace prefix for
> > MathML.
> > 
> > Any time the syntax of semantics of the LyX file itself changes,
> > it's a
> > format change, so: (1) Bump the document format; (2) Write a lyx2lyx
> > routine to remove the new parameter; (3) Do what needs doing with
> > tex2lyx. See lib/doc/Document.lyx, section 2.2.
> > 
> > 
> > I had missed that, thanks for the notice. It should be corrected in the
> > new commit: 7a1e048f. There is nothing to add in tex2lyx, as its
> > behaviour should not change with this new parameter.
> 
> The one last thing to do, then, is to update the tex2lyx tests. Otherwise,
> Scott will very soon complain that they are all failing.

True :). I would be fine, by the way, if the tests were removed. Have
they caught any bugs? Or rather, are they likely to catch bugs in the
future? The only strong preference I have is that if we keep them, we
try our best to update them. I believe updating them is on the check
list in Development.lyx so I guess the hard thing to remember is to
follow the check list.

Scott


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Re: [LyX/master] DocBook: add a parameter to change the namespace prefix for MathML.

2021-03-23 Thread Richard Kimberly Heck 

On 3/23/21 4:13 PM, Thibaut Cuvelier wrote:
On Tue, 23 Mar 2021 at 15:48, Richard Kimberly Heck > wrote:


On 3/22/21 7:33 PM, Thibaut Cuvelier wrote:
> commit 0f782b0ded08953dbcde48f22d51ba87133bc029
> Author: Thibaut Cuvelier mailto:tcuvel...@lyx.org>>
> Date:   Tue Mar 23 00:08:50 2021 +0100
>
>     DocBook: add a parameter to change the namespace prefix for
MathML.

Any time the syntax of semantics of the LyX file itself changes,
it's a
format change, so: (1) Bump the document format; (2) Write a lyx2lyx
routine to remove the new parameter; (3) Do what needs doing with
tex2lyx. See lib/doc/Document.lyx, section 2.2.


I had missed that, thanks for the notice. It should be corrected in 
the new commit: 7a1e048f. There is nothing to add in tex2lyx, as its 
behaviour should not change with this new parameter.


The one last thing to do, then, is to update the tex2lyx tests. 
Otherwise, Scott will very soon complain that they are all failing.


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Re: [LyX/master] DocBook: add a parameter to change the namespace prefix for MathML.

2021-03-23 Thread Pavel Sanda 
On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 09:37:07PM +0100, Thibaut Cuvelier wrote:
> For now, I made a more explicit tool tip. In which part of the
> documentation would you add this? I was thinking about adding a new section
> in Additional, after the HTML section (before the LyX server).

Yes, that's good location.
Thanks, Pavel
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Re: [LyX/master] DocBook: add a parameter to change the namespace prefix for MathML.

2021-03-23 Thread Thibaut Cuvelier 
On Tue, 23 Mar 2021 at 17:15, Pavel Sanda  wrote:

> On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 10:48:22AM -0400, Richard Kimberly Heck wrote:
> > On 3/22/21 7:33 PM, Thibaut Cuvelier wrote:
> > > commit 0f782b0ded08953dbcde48f22d51ba87133bc029
> > > Author: Thibaut Cuvelier 
> > > Date:   Tue Mar 23 00:08:50 2021 +0100
> > >
> > > DocBook: add a parameter to change the namespace prefix for MathML.
> >
> > Any time the syntax of semantics of the LyX file itself changes, it's a
> > format change, so: (1) Bump the document format; (2) Write a lyx2lyx
> > routine to remove the new parameter; (3) Do what needs doing with
> > tex2lyx. See lib/doc/Document.lyx, section 2.2.
>
> Additionaly could you please add some documentation for users?
>
> Someone just looking at the document preferences will probably have no idea
> what the prefix options mean or when they should be used...
>

For now, I made a more explicit tool tip. In which part of the
documentation would you add this? I was thinking about adding a new section
in Additional, after the HTML section (before the LyX server).
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Re: [LyX/master] DocBook: add a parameter to change the namespace prefix for MathML.

2021-03-23 Thread Thibaut Cuvelier 
On Tue, 23 Mar 2021 at 15:48, Richard Kimberly Heck 
wrote:

> On 3/22/21 7:33 PM, Thibaut Cuvelier wrote:
> > commit 0f782b0ded08953dbcde48f22d51ba87133bc029
> > Author: Thibaut Cuvelier 
> > Date:   Tue Mar 23 00:08:50 2021 +0100
> >
> > DocBook: add a parameter to change the namespace prefix for MathML.
>
> Any time the syntax of semantics of the LyX file itself changes, it's a
> format change, so: (1) Bump the document format; (2) Write a lyx2lyx
> routine to remove the new parameter; (3) Do what needs doing with
> tex2lyx. See lib/doc/Document.lyx, section 2.2.
>

I had missed that, thanks for the notice. It should be corrected in the new
commit: 7a1e048f. There is nothing to add in tex2lyx, as its behaviour
should not change with this new parameter.
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Re: [LyX/master] DocBook: add a parameter to change the namespace prefix for MathML.

2021-03-23 Thread Pavel Sanda 
On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 10:48:22AM -0400, Richard Kimberly Heck wrote:
> On 3/22/21 7:33 PM, Thibaut Cuvelier wrote:
> > commit 0f782b0ded08953dbcde48f22d51ba87133bc029
> > Author: Thibaut Cuvelier 
> > Date:   Tue Mar 23 00:08:50 2021 +0100
> >
> > DocBook: add a parameter to change the namespace prefix for MathML.
> 
> Any time the syntax of semantics of the LyX file itself changes, it's a
> format change, so: (1) Bump the document format; (2) Write a lyx2lyx
> routine to remove the new parameter; (3) Do what needs doing with
> tex2lyx. See lib/doc/Document.lyx, section 2.2.

Additionaly could you please add some documentation for users?

Someone just looking at the document preferences will probably have no idea
what the prefix options mean or when they should be used...


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Re: [LyX/master] DocBook: add a parameter to change the namespace prefix for MathML.

2021-03-23 Thread Richard Kimberly Heck 
On 3/22/21 7:33 PM, Thibaut Cuvelier wrote:
> commit 0f782b0ded08953dbcde48f22d51ba87133bc029
> Author: Thibaut Cuvelier 
> Date:   Tue Mar 23 00:08:50 2021 +0100
>
> DocBook: add a parameter to change the namespace prefix for MathML.

Any time the syntax of semantics of the LyX file itself changes, it's a
format change, so: (1) Bump the document format; (2) Write a lyx2lyx
routine to remove the new parameter; (3) Do what needs doing with
tex2lyx. See lib/doc/Document.lyx, section 2.2.

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