Re: Alpha 2? Beta 1?

2021-01-26 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Am Dienstag, dem 26.01.2021 um 10:32 +0200 schrieb Dr Eberhard Lisse:
> to be honest ePub support is a killer feature (even for non-
> publishing users like me) and hence I'd really would like to see it
> making it into 2.4.

With this argumentation a release can be delayed ad infinitum. Having
written that, we have a release manager (Riki), and this is his call,
not mine.

Jürgen



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Re: Alpha 2? Beta 1?

2021-01-26 Thread Dr Eberhard Lisse
Jürgen,

to be honest ePub support is a killer feature (even for non-publishing
users like me) and hence I'd really would like to see it making it into
2.4.

Alpha/Beta doesn't matter to me as I can't make the switch (new file
structure?) until it is production ready (or 2.3.7 (?)  can read 2.4
files), due to the nature of my day job.

Both my desktops (office/home) and both laptops (office/home) sync with
each other at least daily.

greetings, el

On 26/01/2021 09:51, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
[...]
> Me, too. I would add that we shouldn't wait too long for new features.
> So if the ePub support is not there within a to-be-specified time,
> postpone it to a later release.
> 
> OTOH I think a second alpha is fair if it is done soon.
> 
> For beta, I would suggest to freeze features.
> 
> Jürgen
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Re: Alpha 2? Beta 1?

2021-01-26 Thread José Abílio Matos
On Monday, January 25, 2021 6:59:02 PM WET Thibaut Cuvelier wrote:
> I would really like to ship an ePub export in 2.4, building upon the DocBook
> export. I think I could work on that this week.

In the interest of the discussion what needs to be done here?

That is how do you intend to implement this export?

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Re: Alpha 2? Beta 1?

2021-01-25 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Am Montag, dem 25.01.2021 um 19:52 + schrieb José Abílio Matos:
> On Monday, January 25, 2021 7:26:34 PM WET Pavel Sanda wrote:
> > But I don't think it matters much in the end,
> > Pavel
> 
> I agree with Pavel here. :-)

Me, too. I would add that we shouldn't wait too long for new features.
So if the ePub support is not there within a to-be-specified time,
postpone it to a later release.

OTOH I think a second alpha is fair if it is done soon.

For beta, I would suggest to freeze features.

Jürgen

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Re: Alpha 2? Beta 1?

2021-01-25 Thread José Abílio Matos
On Monday, January 25, 2021 7:26:34 PM WET Pavel Sanda wrote:
> But I don't think it matters much in the end,
> Pavel

I agree with Pavel here. :-)

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Re: Alpha 2? Beta 1?

2021-01-25 Thread Pavel Sanda
On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 07:59:02PM +0100, Thibaut Cuvelier wrote:
> > A couple fairly significant regressions have now been fixed in Alpha 1,
> > so it looks like time to do another release. The default would be to go
> > with Alpha 2. But, besides some missing layout files (my fault) and a
> > problem opening files, we have not had any serious bug reports from
> > Alpha 1 (that aren't already in 2.3.x). Should we think about a beta
> > release? To be honest, I don't know myself what people think the
> > difference is between the two, so I'd welcome suggestions.
> >
> 
> I would really like to ship an ePub export in 2.4, building upon the
> DocBook export. I think I could work on that this week.

This would be great.
 
> For alpha vs. beta, I often see that alpha is near-release, but not yet
> feature-frozen, while the developers would like feedback on the current
> state of the software; beta is feature-frozen, with only bug fixes included
> in one release to the other (RC meaning that only critical bug fixes are
> being fixed).

Per our own definitions alpha means only *few* new features are expected to
happen for 2.4, beta means only *small* changes intended for 2.4.

If you wait for ePub to finish then I think it's time for beta, if you
want to push release now, then I'd still go with alpha.

But I don't think it matters much in the end, 
Pavel
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Re: Alpha 2? Beta 1?

2021-01-25 Thread Thibaut Cuvelier
On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 at 19:31, Richard Kimberly Heck 
wrote:

> Hi, all,
>
> A couple fairly significant regressions have now been fixed in Alpha 1,
> so it looks like time to do another release. The default would be to go
> with Alpha 2. But, besides some missing layout files (my fault) and a
> problem opening files, we have not had any serious bug reports from
> Alpha 1 (that aren't already in 2.3.x). Should we think about a beta
> release? To be honest, I don't know myself what people think the
> difference is between the two, so I'd welcome suggestions.
>

I would really like to ship an ePub export in 2.4, building upon the
DocBook export. I think I could work on that this week.

For alpha vs. beta, I often see that alpha is near-release, but not yet
feature-frozen, while the developers would like feedback on the current
state of the software; beta is feature-frozen, with only bug fixes included
in one release to the other (RC meaning that only critical bug fixes are
being fixed).
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Alpha 2? Beta 1?

2021-01-25 Thread Richard Kimberly Heck
Hi, all,

A couple fairly significant regressions have now been fixed in Alpha 1,
so it looks like time to do another release. The default would be to go
with Alpha 2. But, besides some missing layout files (my fault) and a
problem opening files, we have not had any serious bug reports from
Alpha 1 (that aren't already in 2.3.x). Should we think about a beta
release? To be honest, I don't know myself what people think the
difference is between the two, so I'd welcome suggestions.

Riki


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