Re: Beamer example file: use relative offsets?

2022-03-07 Thread José Abílio Matos
On Monday, 7 March 2022 12.57.59 WET Scott Kostyshak wrote:
> Let's just leave things as is for now. Perhaps it would make sense for
> me to eventually start a separate Beamer example file so that we can
> keep the introduction simple.
> 
> Scott

That "smells" (I am thinking about cinnamon, do not ask :-D ) as the right 
solution. :-)
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Re: Beamer example file: use relative offsets?

2022-03-07 Thread Scott Kostyshak
On Mon, Mar 07, 2022 at 08:11:07AM +0100, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
> Am So., 6. März 2022 um 20:19 Uhr schrieb Scott Kostyshak  >:
> 
> > For example, see the attached screenshot, where I highlight the "6". The
> > "6" means to trigger the action (in this case highlight in red) on the
> > 6th slide. If we replace the 6 with "+-" or ".(1)", we get identical PDF
> > output. The advantage of using relative off-sets in this case, is that
> > if we add another item to the list, or we add another manual pause, the
> > relative offset does not need to be changed, but the absolute reference
> > would need to be changed (e.g., if we add an item before we would need
> > to change the 6 to a 7).
> >
> 
> I think users should learn both, contextual and fixed offsets. As to the
> mentioned example, I am undecided.

Let's just leave things as is for now. Perhaps it would make sense for
me to eventually start a separate Beamer example file so that we can
keep the introduction simple.

Scott


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Re: Beamer example file: use relative offsets?

2022-03-06 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Am So., 6. März 2022 um 20:19 Uhr schrieb Scott Kostyshak :

> For example, see the attached screenshot, where I highlight the "6". The
> "6" means to trigger the action (in this case highlight in red) on the
> 6th slide. If we replace the 6 with "+-" or ".(1)", we get identical PDF
> output. The advantage of using relative off-sets in this case, is that
> if we add another item to the list, or we add another manual pause, the
> relative offset does not need to be changed, but the absolute reference
> would need to be changed (e.g., if we add an item before we would need
> to change the 6 to a 7).
>

I think users should learn both, contextual and fixed offsets. As to the
mentioned example, I am undecided.

Jürgen
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Beamer example file: use relative offsets?

2022-03-06 Thread Scott Kostyshak
I think our Beamer manual is extremely helpful for learning LyX's Beamer
support. I've gone back to it several times as I work with Beamer for
lecture slides.

One feature of Beamer that I find myself relying on more and more as I
work on non-trivial slides is "relative offsets".

For example, see the attached screenshot, where I highlight the "6". The
"6" means to trigger the action (in this case highlight in red) on the
6th slide. If we replace the 6 with "+-" or ".(1)", we get identical PDF
output. The advantage of using relative off-sets in this case, is that
if we add another item to the list, or we add another manual pause, the
relative offset does not need to be changed, but the absolute reference
would need to be changed (e.g., if we add an item before we would need
to change the 6 to a 7).

I'm conflicted as to whether to suggest changing the "6" to "+-", and to
make similar changes. On the one hand, I think it is good practice to
use relative offsets. On the other hand, it adds complication for users'
potentially first introduction to Beamer, which I find is already a lot
to handle.

An alternative to changing them would be to have a few slides at the end
focused on only relative offsets. Or perhaps to just put in a LyX note
that an alternative would be "+-" instead of the hardcoded 6.

I don't have a strong opinion on any of this, and would be happy to
forget about it if things are preferred as is.

By the way, here is a very helpful reference for learning about relative
offsets in Beamer:

  https://tex.stackexchange.com/a/154527/12212

Scott


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