Re: LyX 2.4.0 Schedule

2024-04-21 Thread Richard Kimberly Heck

On 4/21/24 16:29, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:

Le 11/01/2024 à 02:11, Richard Kimberly Heck a écrit :

Not sure. What I do not want is delay 2.4.0.


Big changes are probably not wise right now. I would suggest 
committing the first part to 2.4.x as soon as we are sure an 
emergency release will not be needed, or if one is then as soon as we 
have reached some kind of stable state. It will get plenty of testing 
then. The entire thing could be committed to devel as soon as 2.4.x 
is branched. Potential problems with the second part can hopefully be 
identified there, and then we can commit that stuff to 2.4.x when it 
seems safe.


FWIW, I just did that.


Thanks.

Eugene is unavailable through the end of the month, so we will have to 
wait to release anything until he is free again. My intention is to 
release 2.3.8 at the start of May and then, when that's done, release 2.4.0.


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Re: LyX 2.4.0 Schedule

2024-04-21 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes

Le 11/01/2024 à 02:11, Richard Kimberly Heck a écrit :

Not sure. What I do not want is delay 2.4.0.


Big changes are probably not wise right now. I would suggest committing 
the first part to 2.4.x as soon as we are sure an emergency release will 
not be needed, or if one is then as soon as we have reached some kind of 
stable state. It will get plenty of testing then. The entire thing could 
be committed to devel as soon as 2.4.x is branched. Potential problems 
with the second part can hopefully be identified there, and then we can 
commit that stuff to 2.4.x when it seems safe.


FWIW, I just did that.

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Re: LyX 2.4.0 Schedule

2024-01-10 Thread Stephan Witt
Am 09.01.2024 um 11:11 schrieb Pavel Sanda :
> 
> On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 08:47:01PM -0500, Richard Kimberly Heck wrote:
>> I've sent a note to the translators making one final call for translations,
>> asking for them to be delivered by the New Year. Shortly after that, I will
>> package RC2, and hopefully we can aim at an actual release by the end of
>> January.
> 
> Breakdown of current bugs with 2.4 milestone:
> #13022 - regression - LyX modifies unicode in ERT. Anyone to help?
> #13017 -  "aux file not found" at export - patch, but Riki is probably 
> waiting for Juergen's input
> #10425 - the ongoing story, where to center the cursor after jump; seems 
> currently at JMarc decision how we move with this
> #12935 - mac + japanese path encoding crash; Stephan, can you even reproduce?

Yes, I can. The backtrace and terminal output with debug any is attached at 
ticket #12935.

Stephan

> #12880 - hebrew input/font ecoding - waiting on input from Udi
> #13005 - bottom dock can't be enlarged if simple search is used; I can't work 
> on it now, but would like to see it fixed in 2.4, perhaps post RC phase..
> 
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Re: LyX 2.4.0 Schedule

2024-01-10 Thread Richard Kimberly Heck

On 1/10/24 12:44, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:

Le 10/01/2024 à 11:43, Pavel Sanda a écrit :

Is the biginset branch ready?


Since I have been the only one testing it, I would be surprised.

However, there are two parts:

- One that optimizes the drawing mechanism, both in cost of 
updateMetrics() and in number of calls, and improves the scrolling 
code. This part is probably almost ready.


- the second part removes some full screen update that can be 
expensive. I would not be surprised if they caused (fixable) crashes.


And then the last patch (initial loading of previews), which could 
probably be moved to first part.



If yes it might better RC1->RC2->2.4.0 than within stable cycle...


Not sure. What I do not want is delay 2.4.0.


Big changes are probably not wise right now. I would suggest committing 
the first part to 2.4.x as soon as we are sure an emergency release will 
not be needed, or if one is then as soon as we have reached some kind of 
stable state. It will get plenty of testing then. The entire thing could 
be committed to devel as soon as 2.4.x is branched. Potential problems 
with the second part can hopefully be identified there, and then we can 
commit that stuff to 2.4.x when it seems safe.


I will build RC1 tomorrow. I meant to do it today, but got busy...

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Re: LyX 2.4.0 Schedule

2024-01-10 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes

Le 10/01/2024 à 11:43, Pavel Sanda a écrit :

Is the biginset branch ready?


Since I have been the only one testing it, I would be surprised.

However, there are two parts:

- One that optimizes the drawing mechanism, both in cost of 
updateMetrics() and in number of calls, and improves the scrolling code. 
This part is probably almost ready.


- the second part removes some full screen update that can be expensive. 
I would not be surprised if they caused (fixable) crashes.


And then the last patch (initial loading of previews), which could 
probably be moved to first part.



If yes it might better RC1->RC2->2.4.0 than within stable cycle...


Not sure. What I do not want is delay 2.4.0.

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Re: LyX 2.4.0 Schedule

2024-01-10 Thread Pavel Sanda
On Tue, Jan 09, 2024 at 06:26:28PM +0100, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
> >Breakdown of current bugs with 2.4 milestone:
> >#13022 - regression - LyX modifies unicode in ERT. Anyone to help?
> >#13017 -  "aux file not found" at export - patch, but Riki is probably 
> >waiting for Juergen's input
> >#10425 - the ongoing story, where to center the cursor after jump; seems 
> >currently at JMarc decision how we move with this
> I proposed there to target 2.4.1, where the branch biginset will fix things
> properly, even if only the first 7 of 15 commits are backported.

Is the biginset branch ready?
If yes it might better RC1->RC2->2.4.0 than within stable cycle...

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Re: LyX 2.4.0 Schedule

2024-01-09 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes

Le 09/01/2024 à 11:11, Pavel Sanda a écrit :

On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 08:47:01PM -0500, Richard Kimberly Heck wrote:

I've sent a note to the translators making one final call for translations,
asking for them to be delivered by the New Year. Shortly after that, I will
package RC2, and hopefully we can aim at an actual release by the end of
January.


Breakdown of current bugs with 2.4 milestone:
#13022 - regression - LyX modifies unicode in ERT. Anyone to help?
#13017 -  "aux file not found" at export - patch, but Riki is probably waiting 
for Juergen's input
#10425 - the ongoing story, where to center the cursor after jump; seems 
currently at JMarc decision how we move with this
I proposed there to target 2.4.1, where the branch biginset will fix 
things properly, even if only the first 7 of 15 commits are backported.


JMarc


#12935 - mac + japanese path encoding crash; Stephan, can you even reproduce?
#12880 - hebrew input/font ecoding - waiting on input from Udi
#13005 - bottom dock can't be enlarged if simple search is used; I can't work 
on it now, but would like to see it fixed in 2.4, perhaps post RC phase..

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Re: LyX 2.4.0 Schedule

2024-01-09 Thread Richard Kimberly Heck

On 1/9/24 05:11, Pavel Sanda wrote:

On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 08:47:01PM -0500, Richard Kimberly Heck wrote:

I've sent a note to the translators making one final call for translations,
asking for them to be delivered by the New Year. Shortly after that, I will
package RC2, and hopefully we can aim at an actual release by the end of
January.

Breakdown of current bugs with 2.4 milestone:
#13022 - regression - LyX modifies unicode in ERT. Anyone to help?
#13017 -  "aux file not found" at export - patch, but Riki is probably waiting 
for Juergen's input
I'll go ahead and commit that before RC1. It seems to have worked in my 
testing.

#10425 - the ongoing story, where to center the cursor after jump; seems 
currently at JMarc decision how we move with this
#12935 - mac + japanese path encoding crash; Stephan, can you even reproduce?
#12880 - hebrew input/font ecoding - waiting on input from Udi
#13005 - bottom dock can't be enlarged if simple search is used; I can't work 
on it now, but would like to see it fixed in 2.4, perhaps post RC phase..


Thanks for that. I'll package RC1 in the next couple days.

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Re: LyX 2.4.0 Schedule

2024-01-09 Thread Pavel Sanda
On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 08:47:01PM -0500, Richard Kimberly Heck wrote:
> I've sent a note to the translators making one final call for translations,
> asking for them to be delivered by the New Year. Shortly after that, I will
> package RC2, and hopefully we can aim at an actual release by the end of
> January.

Breakdown of current bugs with 2.4 milestone:
#13022 - regression - LyX modifies unicode in ERT. Anyone to help?
#13017 -  "aux file not found" at export - patch, but Riki is probably waiting 
for Juergen's input
#10425 - the ongoing story, where to center the cursor after jump; seems 
currently at JMarc decision how we move with this
#12935 - mac + japanese path encoding crash; Stephan, can you even reproduce?
#12880 - hebrew input/font ecoding - waiting on input from Udi
#13005 - bottom dock can't be enlarged if simple search is used; I can't work 
on it now, but would like to see it fixed in 2.4, perhaps post RC phase..

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Re: LyX 2.4.0 Schedule

2024-01-06 Thread Pavel Sanda
On Sat, Jan 06, 2024 at 03:51:46PM +0100, Pavel Sanda wrote:
> Anyone around please be our guest to go over these (but for content changes
> please wait for 2.4.0 to be out).

For that matter if someone feels to update https://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/Manuals
for 2.4 manuals, that might be worth it.

The attached list shows documents with old formats. Shall I updates 
those to the newest (620)?
Pavel
Development.lyx:\lyxformat 614
DummyDocument1.lyx:\lyxformat 614
DummyDocument2.lyx:\lyxformat 614
Formula-numbering.lyx:\lyxformat 614
MergedManuals.lyx:\lyxformat 614
ar/Intro.lyx:\lyxformat 614
ar/Shortcuts.lyx:\lyxformat 614
ar/Tutorial.lyx:\lyxformat 614
ar/UserGuide.lyx:\lyxformat 614
ca/Intro.lyx:\lyxformat 619
ca/Shortcuts.lyx:\lyxformat 619
cs/Tutorial.lyx:\lyxformat 615
da/Intro.lyx:\lyxformat 614
de/Additional.lyx:\lyxformat 615
de/DummyDocument1.lyx:\lyxformat 614
de/DummyDocument2.lyx:\lyxformat 614
de/EmbeddedObjects.lyx:\lyxformat 614
de/Formelnummerierung.lyx:\lyxformat 614
de/Intro.lyx:\lyxformat 614
de/Math.lyx:\lyxformat 614
de/Shortcuts.lyx:\lyxformat 618
de/Tutorial.lyx:\lyxformat 614
el/Intro.lyx:\lyxformat 614
es/Additional.lyx:\lyxformat 614
es/Customization.lyx:\lyxformat 618
es/DocumentoPostizo1.lyx:\lyxformat 614
es/DocumentoPostizo2.lyx:\lyxformat 614
es/EmbeddedObjects.lyx:\lyxformat 614
es/Formula-numbering.lyx:\lyxformat 614
es/Math.lyx:\lyxformat 614
es/Tutorial.lyx:\lyxformat 614
es/UserGuide.lyx:\lyxformat 614
eu/Intro.lyx:\lyxformat 614
eu/Tutorial.lyx:\lyxformat 614
fr/Additional.lyx:\lyxformat 616
fr/Customization.lyx:\lyxformat 618
fr/DocumentBidon1.lyx:\lyxformat 614
fr/DocumentBidon2.lyx:\lyxformat 614
fr/EmbeddedObjects.lyx:\lyxformat 614
fr/Formula-numbering.lyx:\lyxformat 614
fr/Intro.lyx:\lyxformat 618
fr/Math.lyx:\lyxformat 614
fr/Shortcuts.lyx:\lyxformat 614
fr/Tutorial.lyx:\lyxformat 615
fr/UserGuide.lyx:\lyxformat 615
gl/Intro.lyx:\lyxformat 614
gl/Tutorial.lyx:\lyxformat 614
he/Intro.lyx:\lyxformat 614
he/Tutorial.lyx:\lyxformat 614
hu/Intro.lyx:\lyxformat 614
hu/Tutorial.lyx:\lyxformat 614
id/Intro.lyx:\lyxformat 614
id/Shortcuts.lyx:\lyxformat 614
id/Tutorial.lyx:\lyxformat 614
it/Intro.lyx:\lyxformat 614
it/Tutorial.lyx:\lyxformat 614
ja/Additional.lyx:\lyxformat 619
ja/Customization.lyx:\lyxformat 618
ja/DummyDocument1.lyx:\lyxformat 614
ja/DummyDocument2.lyx:\lyxformat 614
ja/EmbeddedObjects.lyx:\lyxformat 614
ja/Formula-numbering.lyx:\lyxformat 614
ja/Intro.lyx:\lyxformat 614
ja/LaTeXConfig.lyx:\lyxformat 615
ja/Math.lyx:\lyxformat 618
ja/MergedManuals.lyx:\lyxformat 614
ja/Shortcuts.lyx:\lyxformat 614
ja/Tutorial.lyx:\lyxformat 618
ja/UserGuide.lyx:\lyxformat 619
nb/Intro.lyx:\lyxformat 614
nb/Tutorial.lyx:\lyxformat 614
nl/Intro.lyx:\lyxformat 614
nl/Shortcuts.lyx:\lyxformat 614
nl/Tutorial.lyx:\lyxformat 614
pl/Intro.lyx:\lyxformat 614
pl/Tutorial.lyx:\lyxformat 614
pt/Intro.lyx:\lyxformat 614
pt/Tutorial.lyx:\lyxformat 614
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sk/Tutorial.lyx:\lyxformat 614
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Re: LyX 2.4.0 Schedule

2024-01-06 Thread Pavel Sanda
On Mon, Dec 25, 2023 at 11:54:16AM -0500, Richard Kimberly Heck wrote:
> >>Do you want me to accept CT channges in manuals before that?
> >
> >Hello Pavel
> >
> >If you do so, could you preserve the CT version somehow. I'm quite late on
> >translation updates, particularly for Additional.
> 
> Earlier versions are always available via git, or via git.lyx.org if you
> don't have the repo locally installed.

Or you just take the versions from beta5 release...
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Re: LyX 2.4.0 Schedule

2024-01-06 Thread Pavel Sanda
On Mon, Dec 25, 2023 at 11:54:41AM -0500, Richard Kimberly Heck wrote:
> On 12/25/23 06:20, Pavel Sanda wrote:
> >On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 08:47:01PM -0500, Richard Kimberly Heck wrote:
> >>I've sent a note to the translators making one final call for translations,
> >>asking for them to be delivered by the New Year. Shortly after that, I will
> >>package RC2, and hopefully we can aim at an actual release by the end of
> >>January.
> >Do you want me to accept CT channges in manuals before that?
> 
> I'll let you decide what you think is best.

I did my pass now. I did not have stamina to actually typeset the documents
as there will be many small typesetting issues for sure.

Anyone around please be our guest to go over these (but for content changes
please wait for 2.4.0 to be out).

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Re: LyX 2.4.0 Schedule

2023-12-25 Thread Richard Kimberly Heck

On 12/25/23 06:20, Pavel Sanda wrote:

On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 08:47:01PM -0500, Richard Kimberly Heck wrote:

I've sent a note to the translators making one final call for translations,
asking for them to be delivered by the New Year. Shortly after that, I will
package RC2, and hopefully we can aim at an actual release by the end of
January.

Do you want me to accept CT channges in manuals before that?


I'll let you decide what you think is best.

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Re: LyX 2.4.0 Schedule

2023-12-25 Thread Richard Kimberly Heck

On 12/25/23 07:51, JP wrote:



Le 25 décembre 2023 12:21:03 Pavel Sanda  a écrit :


On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 08:47:01PM -0500, Richard Kimberly Heck wrote:
I've sent a note to the translators making one final call for 
translations,
asking for them to be delivered by the New Year. Shortly after that, 
I will

package RC2, and hopefully we can aim at an actual release by the end of
January.


Do you want me to accept CT channges in manuals before that?


Hello Pavel

If you do so, could you preserve the CT version somehow. I'm quite 
late on translation updates, particularly for Additional.


Earlier versions are always available via git, or via git.lyx.org if you 
don't have the repo locally installed.


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Re: LyX 2.4.0 Schedule

2023-12-25 Thread JP



Le 25 décembre 2023 12:21:03 Pavel Sanda  a écrit :


On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 08:47:01PM -0500, Richard Kimberly Heck wrote:

I've sent a note to the translators making one final call for translations,
asking for them to be delivered by the New Year. Shortly after that, I will
package RC2, and hopefully we can aim at an actual release by the end of
January.


Do you want me to accept CT channges in manuals before that?


Hello Pavel

If you do so, could you preserve the CT version somehow. I'm quite late on 
translation updates, particularly for Additional.


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Re: LyX 2.4.0 Schedule

2023-12-25 Thread Pavel Sanda
On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 08:47:01PM -0500, Richard Kimberly Heck wrote:
> I've sent a note to the translators making one final call for translations,
> asking for them to be delivered by the New Year. Shortly after that, I will
> package RC2, and hopefully we can aim at an actual release by the end of
> January.

Do you want me to accept CT channges in manuals before that?
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Re: LyX 2.4.0 Schedule

2023-12-22 Thread José Matos
On Fri, 2023-12-22 at 13:40 +0100, Daniel wrote:
> RC2? I seem to have missed RC1. Where can I get it? It seems not to
> be on the ftp server.
> 
> Daniel

That is of course RC1, since the current development version is named
Version 2.4.0~RC1.devel (not released yet) I suspect that Riki simply
took that as ++Version.

OTOH if the next release is RC2 I will not complain, as long as the
next one is RC3 and not RC2.1 . :-D :-p

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Re: LyX 2.4.0 Schedule

2023-12-22 Thread Daniel

On 2023-12-21 02:47, Richard Kimberly Heck wrote:
I've sent a note to the translators making one final call for 
translations, asking for them to be delivered by the New Year. Shortly 
after that, I will package RC2, and hopefully we can aim at an actual 
release by the end of January.


Riki


RC2? I seem to have missed RC1. Where can I get it? It seems not to be 
on the ftp server.


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Re: LyX 2.4.0 Schedule

2023-12-21 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes

Le 21/12/2023 à 02:47, Richard Kimberly Heck a écrit :
I've sent a note to the translators making one final call for 
translations, asking for them to be delivered by the New Year. Shortly 
after that, I will package RC2, and hopefully we can aim at an actual 
release by the end of January.


That would be great, Riki.

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Re: LyX 2.4.0 Schedule

2023-12-21 Thread José Matos
On Wed, 2023-12-20 at 20:47 -0500, Richard Kimberly Heck wrote:
> I've sent a note to the translators making one final call for 
> translations, asking for them to be delivered by the New Year.
> Shortly 
> after that, I will package RC2, and hopefully we can aim at an actual
> release by the end of January.
> 
> Riki

Woohoo!
Christmas is coming earlier here. :-D


PS: In the process I found that a woo woo is an alcoholic cocktail:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woo_woo

Not necessarily my choice but appropriate in this case. :-)
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LyX 2.4.0 Schedule

2023-12-20 Thread Richard Kimberly Heck
I've sent a note to the translators making one final call for 
translations, asking for them to be delivered by the New Year. Shortly 
after that, I will package RC2, and hopefully we can aim at an actual 
release by the end of January.


Riki


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