Re: Problem with the Converters interface
On Fri, 16 Jan 2004, Nirmal Govind wrote: I thought I'd see what happens in the CVS version of LyX, but it doesn't compile right now :-( Oh well, I've got it compiling nwo, but since there's no New-button in the xforms version that's not a problem. Anyway, I saw that you'd noted it as a Qt-issue so that's that for now then. /Christian -- Christian Ridderström http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Re: Problem with the Converters interface
On Fri, 16 Jan 2004, Nirmal Govind wrote: > > I thought I'd see what happens in the CVS version of LyX, but it doesn't > > compile right now :-( Oh well, I've got it compiling nwo, but since there's no "New"-button in the xforms version that's not a problem. Anyway, I saw that you'd noted it as a Qt-issue so that's that for now then. /Christian -- Christian Ridderström http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Re: Problem with the Converters interface
On Tue, 13 Jan 2004, Nirmal Govind wrote: I've filed it on bugzilla: http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1488 A rather long report, hopefully the reader won't get bored reading it.. :-) The reports ok... (the figures really help). Which reminds me that I was going to find a quicker way of taking a screenshot than starting gimp. I thought I'd see what happens in the CVS version of LyX, but it doesn't compile right now :-( (I'll post the compile errors in a separate mail, right now I'm checking it out from scratch, just in case) /Christian -- Christian Ridderström http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Re: Problem with the Converters interface
The reports ok... (the figures really help). Which reminds me that I was going to find a quicker way of taking a screenshot than starting gimp. I use KSnapshot, on KDE i.e. ... there is something similar on gnome if I remember right... I thought I'd see what happens in the CVS version of LyX, but it doesn't compile right now :-( That would be great.. nirmal
Re: Problem with the Converters interface
On Fri, Jan 16, 2004 at 08:18:22AM -0500, Nirmal Govind spake thusly: The reports ok... (the figures really help). Which reminds me that I was going to find a quicker way of taking a screenshot than starting gimp. I use KSnapshot, on KDE i.e. ... there is something similar on gnome if I remember right... Why not use import, belonging to ImageMagick? Likely already installed and without the KDE/Gnome overhead, i.e., fast. nirmal - Martin pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Problem with the Converters interface
On Fri, 16 Jan 2004, Martin Vermeer wrote: On Fri, Jan 16, 2004 at 08:18:22AM -0500, Nirmal Govind spake thusly: The reports ok... (the figures really help). Which reminds me that I was going to find a quicker way of taking a screenshot than starting gimp. I use KSnapshot, on KDE i.e. ... there is something similar on gnome if I remember right... Why not use import, belonging to ImageMagick? Likely already installed and without the KDE/Gnome overhead, i.e., fast. Thanks to both of you. And yes, import was already installed but I'd no idea it took screenshots :-) Now I've bound 'import screenshot.png' to the key 'Print Screen', so doing screenshots are *easy*. /Christian -- Christian Ridderström http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Re: Problem with the Converters interface
On Tue, 13 Jan 2004, Nirmal Govind wrote: > I've filed it on bugzilla: > http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1488 > > A rather long report, hopefully the reader won't get bored reading > it.. :-) The reports ok... (the figures really help). Which reminds me that I was going to find a quicker way of taking a screenshot than starting gimp. I thought I'd see what happens in the CVS version of LyX, but it doesn't compile right now :-( (I'll post the compile errors in a separate mail, right now I'm checking it out from scratch, just in case) /Christian -- Christian Ridderström http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Re: Problem with the Converters interface
The reports ok... (the figures really help). Which reminds me that I was going to find a quicker way of taking a screenshot than starting gimp. I use KSnapshot, on KDE i.e. ... there is something similar on gnome if I remember right... I thought I'd see what happens in the CVS version of LyX, but it doesn't compile right now :-( That would be great.. nirmal
Re: Problem with the Converters interface
On Fri, Jan 16, 2004 at 08:18:22AM -0500, Nirmal Govind spake thusly: > > > The reports ok... (the figures really help). Which reminds me that I was > > going to find a quicker way of taking a screenshot than starting gimp. > > I use KSnapshot, on KDE i.e. ... there is something similar on gnome > if I remember right... Why not use import, belonging to ImageMagick? Likely already installed and without the KDE/Gnome overhead, i.e., fast. > nirmal - Martin pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Problem with the Converters interface
On Fri, 16 Jan 2004, Martin Vermeer wrote: > On Fri, Jan 16, 2004 at 08:18:22AM -0500, Nirmal Govind spake thusly: > > > > > The reports ok... (the figures really help). Which reminds me that I was > > > going to find a quicker way of taking a screenshot than starting gimp. > > > > I use KSnapshot, on KDE i.e. ... there is something similar on gnome > > if I remember right... > > Why not use import, belonging to ImageMagick? Likely already installed > and without the KDE/Gnome overhead, i.e., fast. Thanks to both of you. And yes, import was already installed but I'd no idea it took screenshots :-) Now I've bound 'import screenshot.png' to the key 'Print Screen', so doing screenshots are *easy*. /Christian -- Christian Ridderström http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Re: Problem with the Converters interface
Nirmal, attach the jpgs to the bugzilla page. Done! nirmal
Re: Problem with the Converters interface
Nirmal, attach the jpgs to the bugzilla page. Done! nirmal
Re: Problem with the Converters interface
Since I haven't seen any posts that this is on bugzilla, I'll assume that it's not and will file this as a bug.. hope this is OK. Thanks, nirmal
Re: Problem with the Converters interface
On Tue, 13 Jan 2004, Nirmal Govind wrote: Since I haven't seen any posts that this is on bugzilla, I'll assume that it's not and will file this as a bug.. hope this is OK. Sounds fine by me. (I'm still planning on reading your post before this one, but hasn't gotten around to it yet :-/ /Christian -- Christian Ridderström http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Re: Problem with the Converters interface
Sounds fine by me. (I'm still planning on reading your post before this one, but hasn't gotten around to it yet :-/ :-) Thanks for checking it out, Christian.. I've filed it on bugzilla: http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1489 A rather long report, hopefully the reader won't get bored reading it.. :-) nirmal
Re: Problem with the Converters interface
Nirmal Govind wrote: A rather long report, hopefully the reader won't get bored reading it.. :-) nirmal Nirmal, attach the jpgs to the bugzilla page. -- Angus
Re: Problem with the Converters interface
Since I haven't seen any posts that this is on bugzilla, I'll assume that it's not and will file this as a bug.. hope this is OK. Thanks, nirmal
Re: Problem with the Converters interface
On Tue, 13 Jan 2004, Nirmal Govind wrote: > Since I haven't seen any posts that this is on bugzilla, I'll assume > that it's not and will file this as a bug.. hope this is OK. Sounds fine by me. (I'm still planning on reading your post before this one, but hasn't gotten around to it yet :-/ /Christian -- Christian Ridderström http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Re: Problem with the Converters interface
Sounds fine by me. (I'm still planning on reading your post before this one, but hasn't gotten around to it yet :-/ :-) Thanks for checking it out, Christian.. I've filed it on bugzilla: http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1489 A rather long report, hopefully the reader won't get bored reading it.. :-) nirmal
Re: Problem with the Converters interface
Nirmal Govind wrote: > A rather long report, hopefully the reader won't get bored reading > it.. :-) > > nirmal Nirmal, attach the jpgs to the bugzilla page. -- Angus
Re: Problem with the Converters interface
On Fri, 9 Jan 2004, Nirmal Govind wrote: Hi.. I had reported this a while back but then failed to follow-up on it... the problem is with the Converters interface in Edit - Preferences. Is this for Qt or Xforms (I'm trying it under Qt). Multiple problems actually: 1. If I hit New to define a new converter, then the selection jumps to the last converter defined instead of showing me maybe something like Empty - Empty. It does, seems kind of pointless doesn't it ;-) I think you should bugzilla this (it can always be marked as duplicate). And for the current selection, the converter that has already been defined shows up in the Converter box and has the command to be executed. This is pretty confusing... I don't understand... could you try explaining once more? 2. So, I hit New once more and then the command box becomes empty but the selection still stays on the last converter defined. Weird... as you say, pressing New again seems to clear the last selection.. should it really do that? Anyone? Here is some additional information from playing with it: If you do Edit-Preferences-Converters and then New, New (i.e. twice) and finally by press Save, .lyx/preferences gets these extra lines: \converter latex dvi \converter eps pdf I suspect this isn't good... it should probably also be bugzillaed. So I enter a new converter by selecting the input type and output type (in this case, I was defining a converter from dvi to pdf using dvipdf (it's dvipdf and not dvipdfm on my Mandrake system for some reason), hit Apply, Save and then reconfigure and restart LyX. Now, I don't see the View- pdftex option anymore which uses ps2pdf to convert to pdf but the new converter PDF (dvipdfm) has appeared. I'm lost now - should 'View-pdftex' have been available? Maybe you could give the list of what you did in a little more detail? (i.e. as a step-by-step for dummies :-) Then I could try and reproduce it. [snip] Is this a known issue? I'm guessing it is... any fix in the cvs? I only remember that I've been surpised by the UI for defining converters before, but I'm guessing this isn't in bugzilla... /Christian -- Christian Ridderström http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Re: Problem with the Converters interface
Is this for Qt or Xforms (I'm trying it under Qt). Qt.. 1. If I hit New to define a new converter, then the selection jumps to the last converter defined instead of showing me maybe something like Empty - Empty. It does, seems kind of pointless doesn't it ;-) I think you should bugzilla this (it can always be marked as duplicate). I'm not quite sure what should go on bugzilla, maybe the entire problem including the problems mentioned below too? And for the current selection, the converter that has already been defined shows up in the Converter box and has the command to be executed. This is pretty confusing... I don't understand... could you try explaining once more? My sincere apologies... what I wrote is pretty confusing in itself.. so what I meant was after I hit New, the selection jumps to the last converter defined and if you look at the Converter command-box on the right, then you see the converter that's been defined for this last selection.. For example, if you look at www.personal.psu.edu/nug107/converter2.jpg the screenshot shows what I see after I hit New .. the selection jumps to the last converter already defined which is EPS - PDF and the stuff in the red ellipse (or sorta ellipse) is what I'm referring to as the Converter command-box.. so in essence, I don't see anything New happening here .. if I at least got an empty Converter command-box, then it would seem like a New converter could be defined ... so this prompts me to hit New once more. And what I get now is: www.personal.psu.edu/nug107/converter3.jpg where the Converter command-box is empty but the selection stays on EPS - PDF as shown in the red ellipse... I'll call the red ellipse part the selection-box.. Weird... as you say, pressing New again seems to clear the last selection.. should it really do that? Anyone? I would think that it should do this on hitting New for the first time - i.e., when I try to define a new converter and hit New, the Converter command-box should be empty and the selection-box should show something other than the last defined converter .. maybe Empty-Empty or New-New or something, but not an already existing converter. If you do Edit-Preferences-Converters and then New, New (i.e. twice) and finally by press Save, .lyx/preferences gets these extra lines: \converter latex dvi \converter eps pdf I suspect this isn't good... it should probably also be bugzillaed. I wasn't sure if this was due to the current attempt to define a new converter or if it was the result of something I'd done earlier (I didn't save a backup of the old preferences so couldn't check).. thanks for confirming this. So I enter a new converter by selecting the input type and output type (in this case, I was defining a converter from dvi to pdf using dvipdf (it's dvipdf and not dvipdfm on my Mandrake system for some reason), hit Apply, Save and then reconfigure and restart LyX. Now, I don't see the View- pdftex option anymore which uses ps2pdf to convert to pdf but the new converter PDF (dvipdfm) has appeared. I'm lost now - should 'View-pdftex' have been available? I should've clarified -- it was available earlier, so there's no reason for it to disappear now all that should've happened was a new converter with the option View - PDF (dvipdfm) with the rest of the View options the same... Maybe you could give the list of what you did in a little more detail? (i.e. as a step-by-step for dummies :-) Then I could try and reproduce it. Yes, hope this is more clear.. (I shouldn't have attempted to do something like this at that hour of the morning! :-) ) I only remember that I've been surpised by the UI for defining converters before, but I'm guessing this isn't in bugzilla... Same here.. the last time I was trying to define a new converter to automate the bundledoc operation so that we could have a converter that automatically creates a zip or tar or gz file which contains the lyx file, .tex file, figures, and all other cls and sty files (this is what bundledoc does) .. this is quite useful for anyone who collaborates with non-lyxers who use LaTeX.. I think I filed something on bugzilla for a converter of this sort to be included in LyX by default but can't be sure.. need to go check... Would be great if someone could please confirm that this converters thing isn't in bugzilla... nirmal
Re: Problem with the Converters interface
On Fri, 9 Jan 2004, Nirmal Govind wrote: > Hi.. I had reported this a while back but then failed to follow-up > on it... the problem is with the Converters interface in Edit -> > Preferences. Is this for Qt or Xforms (I'm trying it under Qt). > Multiple problems actually: > > 1. If I hit "New" to define a new converter, then the selection > jumps to the last converter defined instead of showing me maybe > something like "Empty -> Empty". It does, seems kind of pointless doesn't it ;-) I think you should bugzilla this (it can always be marked as duplicate). > And for the current selection, the > converter that has already been defined shows up in the "Converter" > box and has the command to be executed. This is pretty confusing... I don't understand... could you try explaining once more? > 2. So, I hit "New" once more and then the command box becomes empty > but the selection still stays on the last converter defined. Weird... as you say, pressing "New" again seems to clear the last selection.. should it really do that? Anyone? Here is some additional information from playing with it: If you do Edit->Preferences->Converters and then "New", "New" (i.e. twice) and finally by press "Save", .lyx/preferences gets these extra lines: \converter "latex" "dvi" "" "" \converter "eps" "pdf" "" "" I suspect this isn't good... it should probably also be bugzillaed. > So I enter a new converter by selecting the input type and output type > (in this case, I was defining a converter from dvi to pdf using > dvipdf (it's dvipdf and not dvipdfm on my Mandrake system for some > reason), hit Apply, Save and then reconfigure and restart LyX. Now, > I don't see the View-> pdftex option anymore which uses ps2pdf to > convert to pdf but the new converter "PDF (dvipdfm)" has appeared. > I'm lost now - should 'View->pdftex' have been available? Maybe you could give the list of what you did in a little more detail? (i.e. as a step-by-step for dummies :-) Then I could try and reproduce it. [snip] > Is this a known issue? I'm guessing it is... any fix in the cvs? I only remember that I've been surpised by the UI for defining converters before, but I'm guessing this isn't in bugzilla... /Christian -- Christian Ridderström http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Re: Problem with the Converters interface
Is this for Qt or Xforms (I'm trying it under Qt). Qt.. 1. If I hit "New" to define a new converter, then the selection jumps to the last converter defined instead of showing me maybe something like "Empty -> Empty". It does, seems kind of pointless doesn't it ;-) I think you should bugzilla this (it can always be marked as duplicate). I'm not quite sure what should go on bugzilla, maybe the entire problem including the problems mentioned below too? And for the current selection, the converter that has already been defined shows up in the "Converter" box and has the command to be executed. This is pretty confusing... I don't understand... could you try explaining once more? My sincere apologies... what I wrote is pretty confusing in itself.. so what I meant was after I hit "New", the selection jumps to the last converter defined and if you look at the "Converter" command-box on the right, then you see the converter that's been defined for this last selection.. For example, if you look at www.personal.psu.edu/nug107/converter2.jpg the screenshot shows what I see after I hit "New" .. the selection jumps to the last converter already defined which is "EPS -> PDF" and the stuff in the red ellipse (or sorta ellipse) is what I'm referring to as the "Converter command-box".. so in essence, I don't see anything "New" happening here .. if I at least got an empty Converter command-box, then it would seem like a "New" converter could be defined ... so this prompts me to hit "New" once more. And what I get now is: www.personal.psu.edu/nug107/converter3.jpg where the Converter command-box is empty but the selection stays on "EPS -> PDF" as shown in the red ellipse... I'll call the red ellipse part the "selection-box".. Weird... as you say, pressing "New" again seems to clear the last selection.. should it really do that? Anyone? I would think that it should do this on hitting "New" for the first time - i.e., when I try to define a new converter and hit "New", the Converter command-box should be empty and the selection-box should show something other than the last defined converter .. maybe "Empty->Empty" or "New->New" or something, but not an already existing converter. If you do Edit->Preferences->Converters and then "New", "New" (i.e. twice) and finally by press "Save", .lyx/preferences gets these extra lines: \converter "latex" "dvi" "" "" \converter "eps" "pdf" "" "" I suspect this isn't good... it should probably also be bugzillaed. I wasn't sure if this was due to the current attempt to define a new converter or if it was the result of something I'd done earlier (I didn't save a backup of the old preferences so couldn't check).. thanks for confirming this. So I enter a new converter by selecting the input type and output type (in this case, I was defining a converter from dvi to pdf using dvipdf (it's dvipdf and not dvipdfm on my Mandrake system for some reason), hit Apply, Save and then reconfigure and restart LyX. Now, I don't see the View-> pdftex option anymore which uses ps2pdf to convert to pdf but the new converter "PDF (dvipdfm)" has appeared. I'm lost now - should 'View->pdftex' have been available? I should've clarified -- it was available earlier, so there's no reason for it to disappear now all that should've happened was a new converter with the option "View -> PDF (dvipdfm)" with the rest of the View options the same... Maybe you could give the list of what you did in a little more detail? (i.e. as a step-by-step for dummies :-) Then I could try and reproduce it. Yes, hope this is more clear.. (I shouldn't have attempted to do something like this at that hour of the morning! :-) ) I only remember that I've been surpised by the UI for defining converters before, but I'm guessing this isn't in bugzilla... Same here.. the last time I was trying to define a new converter to automate the bundledoc operation so that we could have a converter that automatically creates a zip or tar or gz file which contains the lyx file, .tex file, figures, and all other cls and sty files (this is what bundledoc does) .. this is quite useful for anyone who collaborates with non-lyxers who use LaTeX.. I think I filed something on bugzilla for a converter of this sort to be included in LyX by default but can't be sure.. need to go check... Would be great if someone could please confirm that this converters thing isn't in bugzilla... nirmal
