Re: export to odt and HTML (Word)

2012-07-21 Thread Richard Heck

On 07/18/2012 11:22 PM, Jack Tanner wrote:

On my LyX 2.0.4, Windows, export to odt and HTML (Word) is very broken. For
example, at times I get this in messages:

23:14:21.748:
C:\Users\lunacy\AppData\Local\Temp\lyx_tmpdir.Hp8096\lyx_tmpbuf3t4ht my-doc.tex
-cooxtpipes -coo -ewin32/tex4ht.env
23:14:21.751: --- error --- Illegal storage address

but then I also get:

23:14:21.772: Successful export to format: odt
23:18:42.401: Automatic save done.

Naturally, the export fails, i.e., neither the temp dir nor the actual doc dir
contain an exported file.
These look like bugs in the tex4ht package you're using to do the 
export. tex4ht is known to be problematic on Windows. (It's a bit flaky 
sometimes on other platforms, too.)


LyX must think the export worked because tex4ht is returning the code 
for success. That's the only way we know what's happened.


Richard



Re: export to odt and HTML (Word)

2012-07-21 Thread Jack Tanner

On Saturday, July 21, 2012 9:57:22 AM, Richard Heck wrote:

These look like bugs in the tex4ht package you're using to do the
export. tex4ht is known to be problematic on Windows. (It's a bit
flaky sometimes on other platforms, too.)


I've now spent about 12 hours trying to get tex4ht to work. I've tried 
it in MiKTeX 2.9, in TexLive under Cygwin, and under CentOS.


My verdict is that tex4ht is awfully, awfully broken. For one, the file 
tex4ht.env comes with at least two sets of hard-coded paths that cannot 
possibly work on any system other than the developer's. Then there's the 
piece of the xtpipes infrastructure that generates invalid XML that it 
later tries to parse and fails...


I got better results with pandoc for conversion from LyX-exported TeX to 
docx. It's fast and robust. However, pandoc has poor support for input 
from TeX tables. It seems like if LyX could export either to 
pandoc-enhanced markdown or to pandoc's native format, we'd have pretty 
good support for conversion from LyX to a bunch of useful formats. See 
http://johnmacfarlane.net/pandoc/


Re: export to odt and HTML (Word)

2012-07-21 Thread Richard Heck

On 07/21/2012 12:50 PM, Jack Tanner wrote:

On Saturday, July 21, 2012 9:57:22 AM, Richard Heck wrote:

These look like bugs in the tex4ht package you're using to do the
export. tex4ht is known to be problematic on Windows. (It's a bit
flaky sometimes on other platforms, too.)


I've now spent about 12 hours trying to get tex4ht to work. I've tried 
it in MiKTeX 2.9, in TexLive under Cygwin, and under CentOS.


My verdict is that tex4ht is awfully, awfully broken. For one, the 
file tex4ht.env comes with at least two sets of hard-coded paths that 
cannot possibly work on any system other than the developer's. Then 
there's the piece of the xtpipes infrastructure that generates invalid 
XML that it later tries to parse and fails...


I got better results with pandoc for conversion from LyX-exported TeX 
to docx. It's fast and robust. However, pandoc has poor support for 
input from TeX tables. It seems like if LyX could export either to 
pandoc-enhanced markdown or to pandoc's native format, we'd have 
pretty good support for conversion from LyX to a bunch of useful 
formats. See http://johnmacfarlane.net/pandoc/


Have you talked to John (another philosopher!) about the LaTeX issues? 
I'm sure he'd be interested in fixing them.


Richard





Re: export to odt and HTML (Word)

2012-07-21 Thread Jack Tanner

On Saturday, July 21, 2012 2:28:06 PM, Richard Heck wrote:

Have you talked to John (another philosopher!) about the LaTeX issues?
I'm sure he'd be interested in fixing them.


I didn't, but only because I found this message, which makes it look 
like he knows about the issues already:


https://groups.google.com/d/topic/pandoc-discuss/_NrHzZoDRd4/discussion


Re: export to odt and HTML (Word)

2012-07-21 Thread Richard Heck

On 07/18/2012 11:22 PM, Jack Tanner wrote:

On my LyX 2.0.4, Windows, export to odt and HTML (Word) is very broken. For
example, at times I get this in messages:

23:14:21.748:
C:\Users\lunacy\AppData\Local\Temp\lyx_tmpdir.Hp8096\lyx_tmpbuf3>t4ht my-doc.tex
"-cooxtpipes -coo" -ewin32/tex4ht.env
23:14:21.751: --- error --- Illegal storage address

but then I also get:

23:14:21.772: Successful export to format: odt
23:18:42.401: Automatic save done.

Naturally, the export fails, i.e., neither the temp dir nor the actual doc dir
contain an exported file.
These look like bugs in the tex4ht package you're using to do the 
export. tex4ht is known to be problematic on Windows. (It's a bit flaky 
sometimes on other platforms, too.)


LyX must think the export worked because tex4ht is returning the code 
for "success". That's the only way we know what's happened.


Richard



Re: export to odt and HTML (Word)

2012-07-21 Thread Jack Tanner

On Saturday, July 21, 2012 9:57:22 AM, Richard Heck wrote:

These look like bugs in the tex4ht package you're using to do the
export. tex4ht is known to be problematic on Windows. (It's a bit
flaky sometimes on other platforms, too.)


I've now spent about 12 hours trying to get tex4ht to work. I've tried 
it in MiKTeX 2.9, in TexLive under Cygwin, and under CentOS.


My verdict is that tex4ht is awfully, awfully broken. For one, the file 
tex4ht.env comes with at least two sets of hard-coded paths that cannot 
possibly work on any system other than the developer's. Then there's the 
piece of the xtpipes infrastructure that generates invalid XML that it 
later tries to parse and fails...


I got better results with pandoc for conversion from LyX-exported TeX to 
docx. It's fast and robust. However, pandoc has poor support for input 
from TeX tables. It seems like if LyX could export either to 
pandoc-enhanced markdown or to pandoc's native format, we'd have pretty 
good support for conversion from LyX to a bunch of useful formats. See 
http://johnmacfarlane.net/pandoc/


Re: export to odt and HTML (Word)

2012-07-21 Thread Richard Heck

On 07/21/2012 12:50 PM, Jack Tanner wrote:

On Saturday, July 21, 2012 9:57:22 AM, Richard Heck wrote:

These look like bugs in the tex4ht package you're using to do the
export. tex4ht is known to be problematic on Windows. (It's a bit
flaky sometimes on other platforms, too.)


I've now spent about 12 hours trying to get tex4ht to work. I've tried 
it in MiKTeX 2.9, in TexLive under Cygwin, and under CentOS.


My verdict is that tex4ht is awfully, awfully broken. For one, the 
file tex4ht.env comes with at least two sets of hard-coded paths that 
cannot possibly work on any system other than the developer's. Then 
there's the piece of the xtpipes infrastructure that generates invalid 
XML that it later tries to parse and fails...


I got better results with pandoc for conversion from LyX-exported TeX 
to docx. It's fast and robust. However, pandoc has poor support for 
input from TeX tables. It seems like if LyX could export either to 
pandoc-enhanced markdown or to pandoc's native format, we'd have 
pretty good support for conversion from LyX to a bunch of useful 
formats. See http://johnmacfarlane.net/pandoc/


Have you talked to John (another philosopher!) about the LaTeX issues? 
I'm sure he'd be interested in fixing them.


Richard





Re: export to odt and HTML (Word)

2012-07-21 Thread Jack Tanner

On Saturday, July 21, 2012 2:28:06 PM, Richard Heck wrote:

Have you talked to John (another philosopher!) about the LaTeX issues?
I'm sure he'd be interested in fixing them.


I didn't, but only because I found this message, which makes it look 
like he knows about the issues already:


https://groups.google.com/d/topic/pandoc-discuss/_NrHzZoDRd4/discussion


export to odt and HTML (Word)

2012-07-18 Thread Jack Tanner
On my LyX 2.0.4, Windows, export to odt and HTML (Word) is very broken. For
example, at times I get this in messages:

23:14:21.748:
C:\Users\lunacy\AppData\Local\Temp\lyx_tmpdir.Hp8096\lyx_tmpbuf3t4ht my-doc.tex
-cooxtpipes -coo -ewin32/tex4ht.env 
23:14:21.751: --- error --- Illegal storage address

but then I also get:

23:14:21.772: Successful export to format: odt
23:18:42.401: Automatic save done.

Naturally, the export fails, i.e., neither the temp dir nor the actual doc dir
contain an exported file.





export to odt and HTML (Word)

2012-07-18 Thread Jack Tanner
On my LyX 2.0.4, Windows, export to odt and HTML (Word) is very broken. For
example, at times I get this in messages:

23:14:21.748:
C:\Users\lunacy\AppData\Local\Temp\lyx_tmpdir.Hp8096\lyx_tmpbuf3>t4ht my-doc.tex
"-cooxtpipes -coo" -ewin32/tex4ht.env 
23:14:21.751: --- error --- Illegal storage address

but then I also get:

23:14:21.772: Successful export to format: odt
23:18:42.401: Automatic save done.

Naturally, the export fails, i.e., neither the temp dir nor the actual doc dir
contain an exported file.