Show entry type in References
I would probaly try to hack alpha.bst. I'll try this. thanks Jürgen ...but now I have a new problem: I don't manage to get the Bibliography in the Table of Contents. If I use the option Sectioned Bibliography, I cannot check the option Add bibliography to TOC in the BibTeX generated bibliography dialog. What I did is to define the Bibliography section name as a Chapter* (chapter title without numbering). Either this way, the Bibliography does not appear in TOC. I also went to Document settings -- Numbering and TOC, but it is not possible from here to change the behaviour of Chapter* since Chapter* is not there at all! but there are Part* and Section*, so why not Chapter* ? By the way, I noticed that even if I set Part* and Section* to appear in TOC, they don't. What's wrong? is it a bug or maybe I don't get the meaning of it all? Thanks again for your support, Diego -- Messaggio inoltrato -- From: Ares [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2006 13:16:56 +0200 Subject: Show entry type in References I found that LyX 1.4.1 (on Win) has the option document settings... bibliography sectioned bibliography, so i can insert multiple bibtex generated bibliography and add section (or subsection) names by myself. There's some cons, though: - I have to define myself the Bibliography section name - I'm still not able to define the citation style as [Art1], [Art2] etc for articles, [Book1], [Book2] etc for books etc. Should I define a bst file by myself? Thanks for your support Diego From: Sara Stymne [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 19:51:47 +0200 Subject: Re: Show entry type in References Hi! You might find an answer here: http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?label=multbib /Sara Ares wrote: Hello everyone, I'm using LyX to compile a PhD thesis and a bibtex database for references, and I'm new to both. I would like to group the references according to entry type, and to show the entry type itself in the references. this would look like, for instance: ... References articles [Art1] article1 [Art2] article2 etc Books [Book1] book1 [Book2] book2 etc etc ... Is there anyone who knows how to do that? maybe using an appropriate bst file that does that?? Thanks for your support Diego -- Messaggio inoltrato -- From: Juergen Spitzmueller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2006 13:57:05 +0200 Subject: Re: Show entry type in References Ares wrote: I found that LyX 1.4.1 (on Win) has the option document settings... bibliography sectioned bibliography, so i can insert multiple bibtex generated bibliography and add section (or subsection) names by myself. There's some cons, though: - I have to define myself the Bibliography section name What's the problem with that? Otherwise it wouldn't simply be possible to add your own bibliography section headings. The option printheadings (in Document-Settings-Class Options), however, changes the behaviour. - I'm still not able to define the citation style as [Art1], [Art2] etc for articles, [Book1], [Book2] etc for books etc. Should I define a bst file by myself? yes. I would probaly try to hack alpha.bst. (as an alternative, if you have a manageable number of citations, the package splitbib might help). Jürgen
Re: problème avec lyx
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Bonjour je suis un nouvel utilisateur de lyx et j'ai un problème lorsque je convertit mon document au format dvi. Le message d'erreur est le suivant : An error occured whilst running Python D:/Utilitaires/lyx 1.4.1/Ressources/scripts The problem might be the changed MiKTeX configuration. Replace the file hyperref.cfg in your MiKTeX installation (in the folder ~\texmf\tex\latex\00miktex) with this one: http://prdownload.berlios.de/lyxwininstall/hyperref.cfg Then restart LyX and try it again. regards Uwe
Re: problème avec lyx (Ihave a prob lem with lyx windows 1.4.1)
Paul A. Rubin wrote: A S Hodel wrote: I think the translation is a bit different: (but then again, I'm an American so take this with a grain of salt) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bonjour je suis un nouvel utilisateur de lyx et j'ai un problème lorsque je convertit mon document au format dvi. Le message d'erreur est le suivant : An error occured whilst running Python D:/Utilitaires/lyx 1.4.1/Ressources/scripts Et lorsque je demande la version en Draftdvi le message est :Bad dvi file En fait les problèmes disparaissent quand j'enlève mes images Bitmap du document. Pourrait-on m'expliquer le problème et comment y remédier ? Merci par avance. I am a new Lyx user and I have a problem when I convert my document to dvi format. The error message is the following: An error occured whilst running Python D:/Utilitaires/lyx 1.4.1/Ressources/scripts And when I ask the version in Draftdvi the message is Bad dvi file. In fact these problems disappear when I upload my bitmap images from the document. Can some explain the problem and how to remedy it? Thanks in advance -- I regret I can't answer the question, but perhaps the additional detail in the translation may help. A S Hodel http://homepage.mac.com/hodelas [EMAIL PROTECTED] The best approach would be for the original poster to post a minimal example (LyX document plus image) that triggers the error message. Any volunteers to translate that to French? /Paul Destiné à [EMAIL PROTECTED], traduction d'une demande de précision de Paul Rubin (ci-dessus) concernant le problème : La meilleure façon serait pour celui qui a envoyé le message initial serait de poster un exemple minimal (document lyx plus image) qui conduit au message d'erreur.
Re: Show entry type in References
Ares wrote:
If I use the option Sectioned Bibliography, I cannot check the option Add
bibliography to TOC in the BibTeX generated bibliography dialog.
Yes, because there isn't a heading to add.
What I did is to define the Bibliography section name as a Chapter*
(chapter title without numbering). Either this way, the Bibliography does
not appear in TOC. I also went to Document settings -- Numbering and TOC,
but it is not possible from here to change the behaviour of Chapter* since
Chapter* is not there at all! but there are Part* and Section*, so why not
Chapter* ? By the way, I noticed that even if I set Part* and Section* to
appear in TOC, they don't. What's wrong? is it a bug or maybe I don't get
the meaning of it all?
The starred versions of the headings are _by definition_ excluded from the
toc. So either add
\addcontentsline{toc}{chapter}{Bibliography}
in ERT below the heading, or use the KOMA-script classes, which provide
\addchap (unnumbered headings that are included in the TOC).
HTH,
Jürgen
Re: including Table of Contents in Table of Contents
Eric Zollars wrote:
How do I include the Table of Contents in the Table of Contents?
\usepackage{tocbibind}
(though I doubt that there is any serious reason for including the toc in the
toc).
Jürgen
Bibliography in TOC [Was: Show entry type in References]
I managed to get the Bibliography in TOC in the output file by using the TeX command \backmatter right before the Bibliography Chapter (not Chapter*) and preceded by a page break. See: http://groups.google.com/group/comp.text.tex/browse_thread/thread/ce999aa747cf4a3e/36b1505bedbf3288?q=starred+TOCrnum=1#36b1505bedbf3288 In this way, inside LyX you get the Bibliography chapter numbered, and as an appendix (if you have, as in my case, appendixes), also appearing in LyX file TOC. When you view the pdf, for example, you get a nice Bibliography title (without number) in TOC of the compiled document. Perhaps it is a dirty trick, but it works... Anyway the Document settings -- Numbering and TOC pane does not work... is it a bug? how to report it? Regards, Diego -- Forwarded message -- From: Ares [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 5-giu-2006 10.58 Subject: Show entry type in References To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org I would probaly try to hack alpha.bst. I'll try this. thanks Jürgen ...but now I have a new problem: I don't manage to get the Bibliography in the Table of Contents. If I use the option Sectioned Bibliography, I cannot check the option Add bibliography to TOC in the BibTeX generated bibliography dialog. What I did is to define the Bibliography section name as a Chapter* (chapter title without numbering). Either this way, the Bibliography does not appear in TOC. I also went to Document settings -- Numbering and TOC, but it is not possible from here to change the behaviour of Chapter* since Chapter* is not there at all! but there are Part* and Section*, so why not Chapter* ? By the way, I noticed that even if I set Part* and Section* to appear in TOC, they don't. What's wrong? is it a bug or maybe I don't get the meaning of it all? Thanks again for your support, Diego -- Messaggio inoltrato -- From: Ares [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2006 13:16:56 +0200 Subject: Show entry type in References I found that LyX 1.4.1 (on Win) has the option document settings... bibliography sectioned bibliography, so i can insert multiple bibtex generated bibliography and add section (or subsection) names by myself. There's some cons, though: - I have to define myself the Bibliography section name - I'm still not able to define the citation style as [Art1], [Art2] etc for articles, [Book1], [Book2] etc for books etc. Should I define a bst file by myself? Thanks for your support Diego From: Sara Stymne [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 19:51:47 +0200 Subject: Re: Show entry type in References Hi! You might find an answer here: http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?label=multbib /Sara Ares wrote: Hello everyone, I'm using LyX to compile a PhD thesis and a bibtex database for references, and I'm new to both. I would like to group the references according to entry type, and to show the entry type itself in the references. this would look like, for instance: ... References articles [Art1] article1 [Art2] article2 etc Books [Book1] book1 [Book2] book2 etc etc ... Is there anyone who knows how to do that? maybe using an appropriate bst file that does that?? Thanks for your support Diego -- Messaggio inoltrato -- From: Juergen Spitzmueller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2006 13:57:05 +0200 Subject: Re: Show entry type in References Ares wrote: I found that LyX 1.4.1 (on Win) has the option document settings... bibliography sectioned bibliography, so i can insert multiple bibtex generated bibliography and add section (or subsection) names by myself. There's some cons, though: - I have to define myself the Bibliography section name What's the problem with that? Otherwise it wouldn't simply be possible to add your own bibliography section headings. The option printheadings (in Document-Settings-Class Options), however, changes the behaviour. - I'm still not able to define the citation style as [Art1], [Art2] etc for articles, [Book1], [Book2] etc for books etc. Should I define a bst file by myself? yes. I would probaly try to hack alpha.bst. (as an alternative, if you have a manageable number of citations, the package splitbib might help). Jürgen
Re: Chapter base Page numbering to TOC
2006/6/2, Sara Stymne [EMAIL PROTECTED]: You can get the word Chapter in komascript. Just add the class option chapterprefix. You add it in the documents settings: class settings, options. great... there's more i want to ask... 1. The font for Chapter, and some other is different in report(komascript), 2. the line spacing between abstract, lof, lot in TOC is too far how to make it shorter... ? also line spacing in chapter title too far, and too much blank line at top part of page... 3. how to remove page number at TOC ? i want the page number for some part, for example the bibliography, not displayed at TOC. But the bibliography list is still exist in TOC. 4. the abstract title, not displayed at abstract page if using Report(komascript) thanks...
Re: LyX and TeXShop
Thank you Bennett, Stephen, Maria, and Tomoharu. I've made TeXShop my default pdf previewer in the finder. A step up from Preview. Bruce On Jun 2, 2006, at 9:56 PM, Bennett Helm wrote: On Jun 2, 2006, at 5:44 PM, Stephen Buonopane wrote: Does TeXShop make a better previewer than the default (Preview) for LyX/Mac? To change the viewer to TeXShop in LyX/Mac 1.4.1, I put -a texshop in the viewer space after doing Preferences File formats PDF (pdflatex). But viewing a LyX file then gave an error. Does texshop have to be by itself in the Applications folder? downloading mactex left TeXShop in a folder called TeX in the Applications folder, and not having sufficient authority I can't move it. I use TexShop as my pdf viewer for LyX. It is the only OS X viewer that I know of that will update automatically when the pdf file changes. This way you can leave the pdf open in TexShop and use View-Update in LyX. I installed TexXhop directly, so it is in the top level of my Applications folder. But you can put the full path name in the LyX preferences. Not sure where it looks by default. I have open -a 'TeXShop' Maybe you need the single quotes? Did you try a Reconfigure...Quit...Relaunch? As others have noted, open -a TeXShop.app is what's needed. Another option, though, is to define TeXShop as the default pdf viewer in the Finder. (Select a .pdf file, select File Get Info, select TeXShop in the Open With drop down menu, and click on the Change all... button.) Then you can leave LyX's viewer for .pdf files simply as open, and everything will work. Again, as others have noted, the major benefit of using TeXShop is that it will automatically update the screen when the .pdf file changes. That's true whether you choose View Update PDF (pdflatex) or simply View PDF (pdflatex). (Reconfigure, relaunch are not necessary here.) In fact, it's possible to trick LyX into running LaTeX in the background, so that you can continue working on your document while it is typesetting. (That's useful on long documents like the book I'm currently working on, which is 100,000 words and which takes a minute or so for each pdflatex run.) How do you do this? 1. In LyX Preferences File formats, define a new file format as follows: Format = latex2, GUI name = PDFLaTeX (update), Extension = tex, Viewer = pdflatex. 2. In LyX Preferences Converters, define a new converter from LaTeX to PDFLaTeX (update), with Converter = touch $$i and Extra flag = latex. Now when you select View PDFLaTeX (Update), LyX will generate a new .tex file and run pdflatex once on it. Once the .pdf file is generated, TeXShop will update its screen. Two things to note about this (which may make it confusing to those not familiar with LaTeX). First, if you are not currently viewing the .pdf file in TeXShop, that file will not be opened and so nothing will appear to happen (though in fact the .pdf file will be generated in your tmp directory). Second, pdflatex is only run once here, and bibtex and makeindex are not run at all. So if you add a new cross reference, it may take 2 pdflatex runs to generate the proper reference, and if you add a new citation, this trick will fail to generate the output properly. (For that, run the standard View PDF (pdflatex).) Bennett
Re: LyX-Code doubt
Javier Moro Sotelo wrote: O Luns 05 Xuño 2006 00:00, Paul A. Rubin escribiu: Re: LyX-Code doubt First of all thaks for the help No, I'm not trying to define a new font, I'm trying to inserte an assambler source code as part of my document (it's an article about ARM assambler language) but when I try to convert it to pdf I get the error: A character number must be beetweeb 0 and 255. I changed this one to zero because the source code contains some negative numbers: some code *** num1 dcd 3, 17, 27, 12, 322 - this is the line where I get the error message *** some code If you want I can send you the lyx file to see it clearly. The source code is just text to LaTeX, so the error message is probably something else -- possibly a non-printing character inconsistent with the document's character encoding got pasted in accidentally (?). Anyway, yes, the best thing would be to post the LyX file. It would help if you cut it down to a minimal example. /Paul
Re: LyX-Code doubt
O Luns 05 Xuño 2006 17:28, Paul A. Rubin escribiu: This is a sample of the file, i get the error on the n dcd -3, -5, -6 line #LyX 1.4.1 created this file. For more info see http://www.lyx.org/ \lyxformat 245 \begin_document \begin_header \textclass article \language spanish \inputencoding auto \fontscheme default \graphics default \paperfontsize default \papersize default \use_geometry false \use_amsmath 1 \cite_engine basic \use_bibtopic false \paperorientation portrait \secnumdepth 3 \tocdepth 3 \paragraph_separation indent \defskip medskip \quotes_language english \papercolumns 1 \papersides 1 \paperpagestyle default \tracking_changes false \output_changes false \end_header \begin_body \begin_layout LyX-Code area data \end_layout \begin_layout LyX-Code n dcd -3, -5, -6 \end_layout \end_body \end_document Javier Moro Sotelo wrote: O Luns 05 Xuño 2006 00:00, Paul A. Rubin escribiu: Re: LyX-Code doubt First of all thaks for the help No, I'm not trying to define a new font, I'm trying to inserte an assambler source code as part of my document (it's an article about ARM assambler language) but when I try to convert it to pdf I get the error: A character number must be beetweeb 0 and 255. I changed this one to zero because the source code contains some negative numbers: some code *** num1 dcd 3, 17, 27, 12, 322 - this is the line where I get the error message *** some code If you want I can send you the lyx file to see it clearly. The source code is just text to LaTeX, so the error message is probably something else -- possibly a non-printing character inconsistent with the document's character encoding got pasted in accidentally (?). Anyway, yes, the best thing would be to post the LyX file. It would help if you cut it down to a minimal example. /Paul -- Javier Moro Sotelo [EMAIL PROTECTED] key_id=0xA92B3FC8 server=hkp://subkeys.pgp.net pgpkzaZbwZmDG.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: periods instead of colon after Figure, Table
Eric Zollars wrote:
Is it possible to use a period
Figure 1.1.
instead of a colon
Figure 1.1:
after Figure, Table, etc.
Thanks.
Eric
Add \usepackage[labelsep=period]{caption} to your document's preamble.
/Paul
page numbering ToC, Bib
I am using komascript book and fancy headers.
The first page of each chapter has the page number in the center of the
footer. For the chapters I can turn this off with \thispagestyle{empty},
but the first page of the ToC and Bibliography still have the page
number in the center of the footer. I tried using
\pagenumbering{gobble} but that makes the page number in the ToC vanish
as well.
Any suggestions?
Eric
Re: LyX-Code doubt
Javier Moro Sotelo wrote:
O Luns 05 Xuño 2006 17:28, Paul A. Rubin escribiu:
This is a sample of the file, i get the error on the n dcd -3, -5, -6 line
#LyX 1.4.1 created this file. For more info see http://www.lyx.org/
\lyxformat 245
\begin_document
\begin_header
\textclass article
\language spanish
\inputencoding auto
\fontscheme default
\graphics default
\paperfontsize default
\papersize default
\use_geometry false
\use_amsmath 1
\cite_engine basic
\use_bibtopic false
\paperorientation portrait
\secnumdepth 3
\tocdepth 3
\paragraph_separation indent
\defskip medskip
\quotes_language english
\papercolumns 1
\papersides 1
\paperpagestyle default
\tracking_changes false
\output_changes false
\end_header
\begin_body
\begin_layout LyX-Code
area data
\end_layout
\begin_layout LyX-Code
n dcd -3, -5, -6
\end_layout
\end_body
\end_document
Congratulations! You found a bug in LyX 1.4.1. I'll report it to
bugzilla. Meanwhile, try the following two lines in your document preamble:
\usepackage{babel}
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hopefully that will fix the problem without screwing anything else up.
/Paul
Re: page numbering ToC, Bib
Eric Zollars wrote:
I am using komascript book and fancy headers.
The first page of each chapter has the page number in the center of the
footer. For the chapters I can turn this off with \thispagestyle{empty},
but the first page of the ToC and Bibliography still have the page
number in the center of the footer. I tried using
\pagenumbering{gobble} but that makes the page number in the ToC vanish
as well.
Any suggestions?
try
\renewcommand*{\chapterpagestyle}{empty}
Jürgen
Hacking bst files... [Was: Show entry type in References]
As I wrote in a previous post, I would like the references of my PhD thesis to be arranged as follows: References Articles [Art1] article1 [Art2] article2 etc Books [Book1] book1 [Book2] book2 etc etc ... LyX 1.4.1 supports sectioned bibliography, so it is possible to split the Bibliography chapter in sections. In order to have the citation as [Art1] and [Book1] etc, I need to hack a bst file, as suggested by Jürgen. I had a look to plain.bst and it doesn't sound so easy! In the end I would just like to add a prefix (Book, Art etc) to the reference numbering and to use a separate bst file for each entry (Books, Articles etc), so that the numbering starts with each section. Is there a resource where I can find how bst files work? or is there someone who can help me? Thanks for support, Diego
Re: LyX-Code doubt
O Luns 05 Xuño 2006 18:31, Paul A. Rubin escribiu:
\usepackage{babel}
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thank you for the help, now the lñast thing, where exactly shall I put those
two lines?
--
Javier Moro Sotelo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: Installing LyX 1.3.7 on Windows 98 - Solved fairly well
Stephen, If you have the hard drive space, you might also consider installing Linux on the machine to dual-boot. The machine I am using at the moment is a 600-mhz Pentium II I picked up for very little...added a hard drive I already had and stuck in 512 MB of RAM I also had. It works very well indeed. The CD problem is easily solved--especially if you have a computer flea market or a recycling center. If you look on any sizeable newsstand, you can find magazines with CD versions of various Linux distributions--or you can order them from places like cheapbytes.com. Another source is to order a CD for free--although it may take a while to arrive, from Ubuntu's shipit program. I use Kubuntu, the KDE version, which is also free. LyX, as you may know, has two UNIX interfaces--one uses an XForms frontend, the other uses the QT toolset--which is also that used by KDE. You will find that Internet surfing and most other activities you do will go faster in Linux than in Windows--although there will be a learning curve involved. If you have a few GB of hard drive space, though, you can easily set up the machine to give you a choice at boot time between Windows and Linux. If the rest of your machine is compatible, adding a CD reader shouldn't run more than $20 or so. David
Re: Hacking bst files... [Was: Show entry type in References]
Hi, 2006-06-05 18:46 +0200, Ares: As I wrote in a previous post, I would like the references of my PhD thesis to be arranged as follows: References Articles [Art1] article1 [Art2] article2 etc Books [Book1] book1 [Book2] book2 etc etc ... LyX 1.4.1 supports sectioned bibliography, so it is possible to split the Bibliography chapter in sections. In order to have the citation as [Art1] and [Book1] etc, I need to hack a bst file, as suggested by Jürgen. I had a look to plain.bst and it doesn't sound so easy! In the end I would just like to add a prefix (Book, Art etc) to the reference numbering and to use a separate bst file for each entry (Books, Articles etc), so that the numbering starts with each section. Actually, this is an issue related to the \bibitem command in the .bst file. However, adding a text before the number is a bit tricky... I have been testing several solutions but haven't find any yet. I keep testing... Kind regards, Kimmo
roman numbers
Dear lyx-users I have almost completed writing a thesis using the book-type lyx document. Unfortunately, I'm struggling to insert roman numbers for the first few introductory pages, followed by usual arabic numbering starting at Chapter 1. I know the solution has something to do with inserting latex commands (listed in the users guide extended features) via the Preamble option. I'm struggling with the details of how to use the Preamble. Would you please send me some advice? best wishes, Francois Engelbrecht University of Pretoria South Africa -- This message and attachments are subject to a disclaimer. Please refer to http://www.it.up.ac.za/documentation/governance/disclaimer/ for full details. / Hierdie boodskap en aanhangsels is aan 'n vrywaringsklousule onderhewig. Volledige besonderhede is by http://www.it.up.ac.za/documentation/governance/disclaimer/ beskikbaar.
Re: LyX-Code doubt
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 En/na Javier Moro Sotelo ha escrit: Thank you for the help, now the lñast thing, where exactly shall I put those two lines? If I understand Paul correctly, they should be at the LaTeX premble. You can access it through Document - Settings... - LaTeX Preamble. Just copy and paste. Marc. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFEhKJIu4rFT+k3kmQRAr1AAKC3SwL06SiyGofAYgqIUiLEgoVnhwCfaWNj x+arDDOALfZ7Ifolg17xc4Q= =hL+1 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: LyX-Code doubt
Marc Vinyals wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 En/na Javier Moro Sotelo ha escrit: Thank you for the help, now the lñast thing, where exactly shall I put those two lines? If I understand Paul correctly, they should be at the LaTeX premble. You can access it through Document - Settings... - LaTeX Preamble. Just copy and paste. Yes, that's correct. Incidentally, I filed a bug report on this. Apparently the change from LyX 1.3.7 (where there is no problem) to LyX 1.4.1 (where the problem arises) was itself a fix for a difficult bug, so the initial reaction was that this bug might not be fixed. However, that was just the first response; we'll see what other developers say. Meanwhile, please let the list know if this fix works (in particular, does not cause any other problems). /Paul
Re: Installing LyX 1.3.7 on Windows 98 - Solved very well
David Neeley wrote: Stephen, If you have the hard drive space, you might also consider installing Linux on the machine to dual-boot. The machine I am using at the moment is a 600-mhz Pentium II I picked up for very little...added a hard drive I already had and stuck in 512 MB of RAM I also had. It works very well indeed. Thanks for the input. I have an 80mb drive that dual boots WinXP and FC4. I was after solving the specific problem that LyX doesn't work on Windows98 just XP. On the developer list they put a fair amount of work into getting Win98 working for those users with old machines and laptops, before giving up. Some Windows users are not technically savvy and are intimidated by the idea of hardware installation or installing a new OS. Cygwin was made to run on Windows, not on Linux. So I was announcing the first purely Windows software solution to LyX not working on Win98. I thought it might work because Claus Hentschel released LyX1.3.1 which worked with win98 and Cygwin. LyX working natively (not X11) and then only for WinXP is less than a year old. Nico Jabin wrote me about using LyX on Win98 so I wanted to test (Re: Installing LyX 1.3.7 on Windows 98 - no appropriate help found) the install procedure before telling him that it would work. I found only two things not covered in Enrico's original simple Howto. Enrico wrote: Thinking about it, maybe you don't have C:\cygwin\bin in the Windows system PATH. If this is the case, then you can solve your problem simply copying lyx-x11.exe to C:\cygwin\bin and then creating a shortcut to C:\cygwin\bin\lyx-x11.exe. --- You are right. I tried earlier to put Cygwin in the Path, but the C:\ autoexec.bat had 0 bytes. So I cleverly appended C:\cygwin\bin to the autoexec.bat which exists in the C:\windows\command\EBD dir. and copied that file to C:\. That proved to be a big mistake. Now the C:\autoexec.bat file contains SET PATH=C:\Windows;C:\Cygwin\bin doskey which works *very well*! If, after installing cygnus, you get the message: Out of environment space add the line shell=C:\command.com /e:4096 /p to your c:\config.sys The CD problem is easily solved--especially if you have a computer flea market or a recycling center. If you look on any sizeable newsstand, you can find magazines with CD versions of various Linux distributions--or you can order them from places like cheapbytes.com. Another source is to order a CD for free--although it may take a while to arrive, from Ubuntu's shipit program. I use Kubuntu, the KDE version, which is also free. These sound like good resources for those with only dialup. My win98/modem is for backup when the dsl rarely goes down. I could have put a network card in it (also have to drill hole in wall for cable)or a spare cd but letting the dialup download run at night was less work. LyX, as you may know, has two UNIX interfaces--one uses an XForms frontend, the other uses the QT toolset--which is also that used by KDE. I was going to install KDE on Cygwin but they terminated the KDE X11 port to Cygwin windows. They have a native port in the works now. You will find that Internet surfing and most other activities you do will go faster in Linux than in Windows--although there will be a learning curve involved. If you have a few GB of hard drive space, though, you can easily set up the machine to give you a choice at boot time between Windows and Linux. I like yum install lyx on FC4. I figured the user already knew about Linux when he asked his question about Win98 (Cygwin is not standalone) so I was giving a win98 specific solution. I notice Bruce Byfield has written several articles about O0o as superior for technical writing than Word. But he doesn't think people are likely to change to it. David Regards, Stephen
Re: Installing LyX 1.3.7 on Windows 98 - Solved very well
Yes, OOo is superior to Word for tech writing--but then, almost anything is! I am trying to get far enough up the learning curve with LyX that I can feel good about creating style files. Then, I intend to do a style file for DITA--because I believe that LyX is, potentially, a far better tech writing solution than anything else out there at the moment. I also believe that DITA has advantages over most other XML-based solutions for the purpose...and it should be far easier for folks to learn and use consistently than DocBook, for instance. Most folks still using Win98 should, in my opinion, seek other solutions--especially if they want to keep using the same hardware. That was the genesis of my suggestion to dual-boot with Linux. I am not so charmed with Fedora--but then, I never really got into Red Hat to begin with. Before I went to Kubuntu, I mostly used SuSE. My main problem with Kubuntu at the moment is that the repository is still behind the times with 1.3.7--I did the ./configure/make/make install routine for 1.4.1. David
Re: Installing LyX 1.3.7 on Windows 98 - DITA detour
David Neeley wrote: I am trying to get far enough up the learning curve with LyX that I can feel good about creating style files. Then, I intend to do a style file for DITA--because I believe that LyX is, potentially, a far better tech writing solution than anything else out there at the moment. I also believe that DITA has advantages over most other XML-based solutions for the purpose...and it should be far easier for folks to learn and use consistently than DocBook, for instance. Directions for tomorrow's techwriting From: David Neeley Date: Mon, Apr 22 2002 8:24 am Groups: bit.listserv.techwr-l Greetings! I would appreciate your thoughts about the direction of technical writing departments and practices in the near future. Specifically, I invite your comments about my growing conviction that we will see a growing methodology shift driven by increased understanding of the benefits of creating documentation that is easy to re-use and maintain. It appears clear that this will in most cases be through employment of XML and repository tools based upon this technology. - SH: The Docbook topic comes up occasionally. Chris Karakas has done quite a bit of work producing with LyX, SGML, and Latex. http://www.karakas-online.de/mySGML/ There is quite a bit involved to get all the packages working together IMO. My main problem with Kubuntu at the moment is that the repository is still behind the times with 1.3.7--I did the ./configure/make/make install routine for 1.4.1. David I use Redhat because it installs so easily. I'm not able to argue the merits of Fedora vs. other Linux versions and also Rex Dieter monitors this list and he produces Fedora rpms very quickly, so I never have a problem with updates and LyX, it's very convenient. For those reading who are not acquainted with DITA: http://www.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=06/05/05/1744245 DITA Over the last couple of years, Oasis Darwin Information Typing Architecture (DITA) has been attracting a lot of attention among technical writers -- so much so that it's starting to eat into the market share of DocBook. Rather than being based on the traditional book-chapter-section format, DITA is meant for creating individual topics that you can combine and reuse in different types of documentation and in different delivery formats. You can use DITA to create just about any kind of documentation, but it's best suited for Web content, online help, computer-based training, knowledge bases, and FAQs. Because DITA is based on XML, you can use any text or XML editor to author DITA documents. Several editing tools both support DITA and run on Linux. My text editor of choice is Emacs in conjunction with psgmlx, which is what I use with DocBook. ... Right now, the only way to convert a DITA document to a more usable format on Linux is with the DITA Open Toolkit for Linux. The Open Toolkit is easy to use and can transform DITA content to HTML, XHTML, PDF, Eclipse Help, or RTF. --- http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/xml/library/x-emacs/ I think (X)Emacs has been developed longer in this area. I think Lyx 1.5 and 1.6 are slated to improve performance for XML and Unicode. I'm not sure how easy it will be to realize your goal, though I think it is a good idea. I've seen the developers with expert opinions, Jose Matos and Georg Baum express some interest in this topic. I think information about other approaches might be helpful; so much seems revolve around converting one format to another these days in various database paradigms (thinking of AI). Viva la Semantic Web! Stephen
Re: Installing LyX 1.3.7 on Windows 98 - DITA detour
Yes, this is a topic I have been interested in for some years. Creating documentation as a specialty seems an ideal use for LyX--at least, as it may become in future. One notion that becomes very important in document creation, updating, and management in general is the notion of chunking into topics. One firm that has built a business out of this idea is Information Mapping Inc., although their methods are still somewhat controversial in the field. Thinking of topical chunking is nearly an unnatural act for many--but it may prove extremely useful if we are to get very far with the implementation of XML-style technology in documentation. One large problem is the lack of uniformity in the way people think of and create documents. On the simplest level, that includes format differences from individual to individual--format differences that are aided and abetted by programs like Microsoft Word that allows--nay, *encourages*--the profligate use of style tags and many ways to get a particular visible result in a document.j My interest in LyX has been powered by this observation, and the thought that something must replace our existing tools if we are to get the real benefits of the separation of content and form. In short, the entire what you get is what you mean approach is long overdue! However, the question remains whether LyX itself is the answer, or a recast tool based around XML. In other words, all the stuff that accompanies TeX and its complexity designed originally for typesetting may make the learning curve sufficiently complex that many may find it not to be worthwhile, especially for technical documentation that lacks many of the needs of the scholarly dissertation, for example. That is one thing I am attempting to determine by going through that learning curve myself! I delayed turning to LyX for several years, since for a time it appeared to the casual observer to be somewhat of a dying application. An aborted Klyx (kde specific) version, for example, did not appear to be a sign of progress. I believe, though, that if a stylesheet is made for the creation of DITA topics, there is little of the TeX stuff that needs to be used at all. Resulting topics could then be used by some as-yet-unidentified DITA map/content management facility with very little learning curve for the writers involved in topic content creation. While I am personally fascinated with typography, we are a comparatively dying breed these days, it seems. One thing I am thinking of is the feasibility of a context-sensitive right-click menu that would enable a quicker selection of a particular style attribute rather than just the drop-down box in the present interface. Such a dropdown could also be easily triggered with a keyboard shortcut for those interested in true productivity--or perhaps a handful of keyboard shortcuts for the principal style designationsk, somewhat similar to the ones in FrameMaker. LyX seems to be extremely useful for creating indexes, which seems to me to be an often-neglected part of the written information trade. Indexing, though, could become extremely significant in content management--especially since indexing itself is in a major sense the extraction and processing of metadata. Thus, the information chunks represented by topic creation for content management may be best served by creating index references at the time the topics are written and placed in the repository originally. That would seem to permit the locating and employment of the right chunks to meet any arbitrary need. Then, creation of new documents as collections of these chunks would be greatly eased. Anyway, pardon my musings tonight...there is much that I am still at sea about in this whole subject. David On 6/5/06, Stephen Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David Neeley wrote: I am trying to get far enough up the learning curve with LyX that I can feel good about creating style files. Then, I intend to do a style file for DITA--because I believe that LyX is, potentially, a far better tech writing solution than anything else out there at the moment. I also believe that DITA has advantages over most other XML-based solutions for the purpose...and it should be far easier for folks to learn and use consistently than DocBook, for instance.
Re: Installing LyX 1.3.7 on Windows 98 - DITA detour
David Neeley wrote: I delayed turning to LyX for several years, since for a time it appeared to the casual observer to be somewhat of a dying application. An aborted Klyx (kde specific) version, for example, did not appear to be a sign of progress. http://www.lyx.org/about/klyx.php While I am personally fascinated with typography, we are a comparatively dying breed these days, it seems. Yes, it seems that way. LyX seems to be extremely useful for creating indexes, which seems to me to be an often-neglected part of the written information trade. Indexing, though, could become extremely significant in content management--especially since indexing itself is in a major sense the extraction and processing of metadata. Thus, the information chunks represented by topic creation for content management may be best served by creating index references at the time the topics are written and placed in the repository originally. That would seem to permit the locating and employment of the right chunks to meet any arbitrary need. Then, creation of new documents as collections of these chunks would be greatly eased. They say you can't judge a book by its cover but by its index. It reminds me of Explore XY which takes for ages to finish. http://explorexy.com/ CORRELATION – the process of establishing a relationship or connection between two or more subjects. EXPLORATION – the process of traveling in or through an unfamiliar area in order to learn about it. Correlation and exploration. Doing both, in depth, on the Internet was impossible. Not with search engines. Not with data mining. Not with crawlers or bots. Not with anything. Until now. Introducing Explore XY. Explore XY is a Knowledge Discovery Vehicle (KDVTM). A KDV is a radical, patented desktop application that explores all the web’s pages to find any correlation between two subjects. It reads a URL/web page and reports back text and source links that are relevant to connecting the two subjects. Download it for free now! Anyway, pardon my musings tonight...there is much that I am still at sea about in this whole subject. David I enjoyed reading your thoughts and also Techwriter's toolkits and directions for tomorrow (long and deep response) twirlers Bill Hall Any port in a storm :-) Stephen
Re: roman numbers
In the book class you can just use the ERT at the beginning of the document:
\pagenumbering{roman}
and in Chapter 1:
\pagenumbering{arabic}
no preamble needed.
Eric
Francois Engelbrecht wrote:
Dear lyx-users
I have almost completed writing a thesis using the book-type lyx
document. Unfortunately, I'm struggling to insert roman numbers for the
first few introductory pages, followed by usual arabic numbering
starting at Chapter 1. I know the solution has something to do with
inserting latex commands (listed in the users guide extended features)
via the Preamble option. I'm struggling with the details of how to use
the Preamble. Would you please send me some advice?
best wishes,
Francois Engelbrecht
University of Pretoria
South Africa
Show entry type in References
I would probaly try to hack alpha.bst. I'll try this. thanks Jürgen ...but now I have a new problem: I don't manage to get the Bibliography in the Table of Contents. If I use the option Sectioned Bibliography, I cannot check the option Add bibliography to TOC in the BibTeX generated bibliography dialog. What I did is to define the Bibliography section name as a Chapter* (chapter title without numbering). Either this way, the Bibliography does not appear in TOC. I also went to Document settings -- Numbering and TOC, but it is not possible from here to change the behaviour of Chapter* since Chapter* is not there at all! but there are Part* and Section*, so why not Chapter* ? By the way, I noticed that even if I set Part* and Section* to appear in TOC, they don't. What's wrong? is it a bug or maybe I don't get the meaning of it all? Thanks again for your support, Diego -- Messaggio inoltrato -- From: Ares [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2006 13:16:56 +0200 Subject: Show entry type in References I found that LyX 1.4.1 (on Win) has the option document settings... bibliography sectioned bibliography, so i can insert multiple bibtex generated bibliography and add section (or subsection) names by myself. There's some cons, though: - I have to define myself the Bibliography section name - I'm still not able to define the citation style as [Art1], [Art2] etc for articles, [Book1], [Book2] etc for books etc. Should I define a bst file by myself? Thanks for your support Diego From: Sara Stymne [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 19:51:47 +0200 Subject: Re: Show entry type in References Hi! You might find an answer here: http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?label=multbib /Sara Ares wrote: Hello everyone, I'm using LyX to compile a PhD thesis and a bibtex database for references, and I'm new to both. I would like to group the references according to entry type, and to show the entry type itself in the references. this would look like, for instance: ... References articles [Art1] article1 [Art2] article2 etc Books [Book1] book1 [Book2] book2 etc etc ... Is there anyone who knows how to do that? maybe using an appropriate bst file that does that?? Thanks for your support Diego -- Messaggio inoltrato -- From: Juergen Spitzmueller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2006 13:57:05 +0200 Subject: Re: Show entry type in References Ares wrote: I found that LyX 1.4.1 (on Win) has the option document settings... bibliography sectioned bibliography, so i can insert multiple bibtex generated bibliography and add section (or subsection) names by myself. There's some cons, though: - I have to define myself the Bibliography section name What's the problem with that? Otherwise it wouldn't simply be possible to add your own bibliography section headings. The option printheadings (in Document-Settings-Class Options), however, changes the behaviour. - I'm still not able to define the citation style as [Art1], [Art2] etc for articles, [Book1], [Book2] etc for books etc. Should I define a bst file by myself? yes. I would probaly try to hack alpha.bst. (as an alternative, if you have a manageable number of citations, the package splitbib might help). Jürgen
Re: problème avec lyx
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Bonjour je suis un nouvel utilisateur de lyx et j'ai un problème lorsque je convertit mon document au format dvi. Le message d'erreur est le suivant : An error occured whilst running Python D:/Utilitaires/lyx 1.4.1/Ressources/scripts The problem might be the changed MiKTeX configuration. Replace the file hyperref.cfg in your MiKTeX installation (in the folder ~\texmf\tex\latex\00miktex) with this one: http://prdownload.berlios.de/lyxwininstall/hyperref.cfg Then restart LyX and try it again. regards Uwe
Re: problème avec lyx (Ihave a prob lem with lyx windows 1.4.1)
Paul A. Rubin wrote: A S Hodel wrote: I think the translation is a bit different: (but then again, I'm an American so take this with a grain of salt) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bonjour je suis un nouvel utilisateur de lyx et j'ai un problème lorsque je convertit mon document au format dvi. Le message d'erreur est le suivant : An error occured whilst running Python D:/Utilitaires/lyx 1.4.1/Ressources/scripts Et lorsque je demande la version en Draftdvi le message est :Bad dvi file En fait les problèmes disparaissent quand j'enlève mes images Bitmap du document. Pourrait-on m'expliquer le problème et comment y remédier ? Merci par avance. I am a new Lyx user and I have a problem when I convert my document to dvi format. The error message is the following: An error occured whilst running Python D:/Utilitaires/lyx 1.4.1/Ressources/scripts And when I ask the version in Draftdvi the message is Bad dvi file. In fact these problems disappear when I upload my bitmap images from the document. Can some explain the problem and how to remedy it? Thanks in advance -- I regret I can't answer the question, but perhaps the additional detail in the translation may help. A S Hodel http://homepage.mac.com/hodelas [EMAIL PROTECTED] The best approach would be for the original poster to post a minimal example (LyX document plus image) that triggers the error message. Any volunteers to translate that to French? /Paul Destiné à [EMAIL PROTECTED], traduction d'une demande de précision de Paul Rubin (ci-dessus) concernant le problème : La meilleure façon serait pour celui qui a envoyé le message initial serait de poster un exemple minimal (document lyx plus image) qui conduit au message d'erreur.
Re: Show entry type in References
Ares wrote:
If I use the option Sectioned Bibliography, I cannot check the option Add
bibliography to TOC in the BibTeX generated bibliography dialog.
Yes, because there isn't a heading to add.
What I did is to define the Bibliography section name as a Chapter*
(chapter title without numbering). Either this way, the Bibliography does
not appear in TOC. I also went to Document settings -- Numbering and TOC,
but it is not possible from here to change the behaviour of Chapter* since
Chapter* is not there at all! but there are Part* and Section*, so why not
Chapter* ? By the way, I noticed that even if I set Part* and Section* to
appear in TOC, they don't. What's wrong? is it a bug or maybe I don't get
the meaning of it all?
The starred versions of the headings are _by definition_ excluded from the
toc. So either add
\addcontentsline{toc}{chapter}{Bibliography}
in ERT below the heading, or use the KOMA-script classes, which provide
\addchap (unnumbered headings that are included in the TOC).
HTH,
Jürgen
Re: including Table of Contents in Table of Contents
Eric Zollars wrote:
How do I include the Table of Contents in the Table of Contents?
\usepackage{tocbibind}
(though I doubt that there is any serious reason for including the toc in the
toc).
Jürgen
Bibliography in TOC [Was: Show entry type in References]
I managed to get the Bibliography in TOC in the output file by using the TeX command \backmatter right before the Bibliography Chapter (not Chapter*) and preceded by a page break. See: http://groups.google.com/group/comp.text.tex/browse_thread/thread/ce999aa747cf4a3e/36b1505bedbf3288?q=starred+TOCrnum=1#36b1505bedbf3288 In this way, inside LyX you get the Bibliography chapter numbered, and as an appendix (if you have, as in my case, appendixes), also appearing in LyX file TOC. When you view the pdf, for example, you get a nice Bibliography title (without number) in TOC of the compiled document. Perhaps it is a dirty trick, but it works... Anyway the Document settings -- Numbering and TOC pane does not work... is it a bug? how to report it? Regards, Diego -- Forwarded message -- From: Ares [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 5-giu-2006 10.58 Subject: Show entry type in References To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org I would probaly try to hack alpha.bst. I'll try this. thanks Jürgen ...but now I have a new problem: I don't manage to get the Bibliography in the Table of Contents. If I use the option Sectioned Bibliography, I cannot check the option Add bibliography to TOC in the BibTeX generated bibliography dialog. What I did is to define the Bibliography section name as a Chapter* (chapter title without numbering). Either this way, the Bibliography does not appear in TOC. I also went to Document settings -- Numbering and TOC, but it is not possible from here to change the behaviour of Chapter* since Chapter* is not there at all! but there are Part* and Section*, so why not Chapter* ? By the way, I noticed that even if I set Part* and Section* to appear in TOC, they don't. What's wrong? is it a bug or maybe I don't get the meaning of it all? Thanks again for your support, Diego -- Messaggio inoltrato -- From: Ares [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2006 13:16:56 +0200 Subject: Show entry type in References I found that LyX 1.4.1 (on Win) has the option document settings... bibliography sectioned bibliography, so i can insert multiple bibtex generated bibliography and add section (or subsection) names by myself. There's some cons, though: - I have to define myself the Bibliography section name - I'm still not able to define the citation style as [Art1], [Art2] etc for articles, [Book1], [Book2] etc for books etc. Should I define a bst file by myself? Thanks for your support Diego From: Sara Stymne [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 19:51:47 +0200 Subject: Re: Show entry type in References Hi! You might find an answer here: http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?label=multbib /Sara Ares wrote: Hello everyone, I'm using LyX to compile a PhD thesis and a bibtex database for references, and I'm new to both. I would like to group the references according to entry type, and to show the entry type itself in the references. this would look like, for instance: ... References articles [Art1] article1 [Art2] article2 etc Books [Book1] book1 [Book2] book2 etc etc ... Is there anyone who knows how to do that? maybe using an appropriate bst file that does that?? Thanks for your support Diego -- Messaggio inoltrato -- From: Juergen Spitzmueller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2006 13:57:05 +0200 Subject: Re: Show entry type in References Ares wrote: I found that LyX 1.4.1 (on Win) has the option document settings... bibliography sectioned bibliography, so i can insert multiple bibtex generated bibliography and add section (or subsection) names by myself. There's some cons, though: - I have to define myself the Bibliography section name What's the problem with that? Otherwise it wouldn't simply be possible to add your own bibliography section headings. The option printheadings (in Document-Settings-Class Options), however, changes the behaviour. - I'm still not able to define the citation style as [Art1], [Art2] etc for articles, [Book1], [Book2] etc for books etc. Should I define a bst file by myself? yes. I would probaly try to hack alpha.bst. (as an alternative, if you have a manageable number of citations, the package splitbib might help). Jürgen
Re: Chapter base Page numbering to TOC
2006/6/2, Sara Stymne [EMAIL PROTECTED]: You can get the word Chapter in komascript. Just add the class option chapterprefix. You add it in the documents settings: class settings, options. great... there's more i want to ask... 1. The font for Chapter, and some other is different in report(komascript), 2. the line spacing between abstract, lof, lot in TOC is too far how to make it shorter... ? also line spacing in chapter title too far, and too much blank line at top part of page... 3. how to remove page number at TOC ? i want the page number for some part, for example the bibliography, not displayed at TOC. But the bibliography list is still exist in TOC. 4. the abstract title, not displayed at abstract page if using Report(komascript) thanks...
Re: LyX and TeXShop
Thank you Bennett, Stephen, Maria, and Tomoharu. I've made TeXShop my default pdf previewer in the finder. A step up from Preview. Bruce On Jun 2, 2006, at 9:56 PM, Bennett Helm wrote: On Jun 2, 2006, at 5:44 PM, Stephen Buonopane wrote: Does TeXShop make a better previewer than the default (Preview) for LyX/Mac? To change the viewer to TeXShop in LyX/Mac 1.4.1, I put -a texshop in the viewer space after doing Preferences File formats PDF (pdflatex). But viewing a LyX file then gave an error. Does texshop have to be by itself in the Applications folder? downloading mactex left TeXShop in a folder called TeX in the Applications folder, and not having sufficient authority I can't move it. I use TexShop as my pdf viewer for LyX. It is the only OS X viewer that I know of that will update automatically when the pdf file changes. This way you can leave the pdf open in TexShop and use View-Update in LyX. I installed TexXhop directly, so it is in the top level of my Applications folder. But you can put the full path name in the LyX preferences. Not sure where it looks by default. I have open -a 'TeXShop' Maybe you need the single quotes? Did you try a Reconfigure...Quit...Relaunch? As others have noted, open -a TeXShop.app is what's needed. Another option, though, is to define TeXShop as the default pdf viewer in the Finder. (Select a .pdf file, select File Get Info, select TeXShop in the Open With drop down menu, and click on the Change all... button.) Then you can leave LyX's viewer for .pdf files simply as open, and everything will work. Again, as others have noted, the major benefit of using TeXShop is that it will automatically update the screen when the .pdf file changes. That's true whether you choose View Update PDF (pdflatex) or simply View PDF (pdflatex). (Reconfigure, relaunch are not necessary here.) In fact, it's possible to trick LyX into running LaTeX in the background, so that you can continue working on your document while it is typesetting. (That's useful on long documents like the book I'm currently working on, which is 100,000 words and which takes a minute or so for each pdflatex run.) How do you do this? 1. In LyX Preferences File formats, define a new file format as follows: Format = latex2, GUI name = PDFLaTeX (update), Extension = tex, Viewer = pdflatex. 2. In LyX Preferences Converters, define a new converter from LaTeX to PDFLaTeX (update), with Converter = touch $$i and Extra flag = latex. Now when you select View PDFLaTeX (Update), LyX will generate a new .tex file and run pdflatex once on it. Once the .pdf file is generated, TeXShop will update its screen. Two things to note about this (which may make it confusing to those not familiar with LaTeX). First, if you are not currently viewing the .pdf file in TeXShop, that file will not be opened and so nothing will appear to happen (though in fact the .pdf file will be generated in your tmp directory). Second, pdflatex is only run once here, and bibtex and makeindex are not run at all. So if you add a new cross reference, it may take 2 pdflatex runs to generate the proper reference, and if you add a new citation, this trick will fail to generate the output properly. (For that, run the standard View PDF (pdflatex).) Bennett
Re: LyX-Code doubt
Javier Moro Sotelo wrote: O Luns 05 Xuño 2006 00:00, Paul A. Rubin escribiu: Re: LyX-Code doubt First of all thaks for the help No, I'm not trying to define a new font, I'm trying to inserte an assambler source code as part of my document (it's an article about ARM assambler language) but when I try to convert it to pdf I get the error: A character number must be beetweeb 0 and 255. I changed this one to zero because the source code contains some negative numbers: some code *** num1 dcd 3, 17, 27, 12, 322 - this is the line where I get the error message *** some code If you want I can send you the lyx file to see it clearly. The source code is just text to LaTeX, so the error message is probably something else -- possibly a non-printing character inconsistent with the document's character encoding got pasted in accidentally (?). Anyway, yes, the best thing would be to post the LyX file. It would help if you cut it down to a minimal example. /Paul
Re: LyX-Code doubt
O Luns 05 Xuño 2006 17:28, Paul A. Rubin escribiu: This is a sample of the file, i get the error on the n dcd -3, -5, -6 line #LyX 1.4.1 created this file. For more info see http://www.lyx.org/ \lyxformat 245 \begin_document \begin_header \textclass article \language spanish \inputencoding auto \fontscheme default \graphics default \paperfontsize default \papersize default \use_geometry false \use_amsmath 1 \cite_engine basic \use_bibtopic false \paperorientation portrait \secnumdepth 3 \tocdepth 3 \paragraph_separation indent \defskip medskip \quotes_language english \papercolumns 1 \papersides 1 \paperpagestyle default \tracking_changes false \output_changes false \end_header \begin_body \begin_layout LyX-Code area data \end_layout \begin_layout LyX-Code n dcd -3, -5, -6 \end_layout \end_body \end_document Javier Moro Sotelo wrote: O Luns 05 Xuño 2006 00:00, Paul A. Rubin escribiu: Re: LyX-Code doubt First of all thaks for the help No, I'm not trying to define a new font, I'm trying to inserte an assambler source code as part of my document (it's an article about ARM assambler language) but when I try to convert it to pdf I get the error: A character number must be beetweeb 0 and 255. I changed this one to zero because the source code contains some negative numbers: some code *** num1 dcd 3, 17, 27, 12, 322 - this is the line where I get the error message *** some code If you want I can send you the lyx file to see it clearly. The source code is just text to LaTeX, so the error message is probably something else -- possibly a non-printing character inconsistent with the document's character encoding got pasted in accidentally (?). Anyway, yes, the best thing would be to post the LyX file. It would help if you cut it down to a minimal example. /Paul -- Javier Moro Sotelo [EMAIL PROTECTED] key_id=0xA92B3FC8 server=hkp://subkeys.pgp.net pgpkzaZbwZmDG.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: periods instead of colon after Figure, Table
Eric Zollars wrote:
Is it possible to use a period
Figure 1.1.
instead of a colon
Figure 1.1:
after Figure, Table, etc.
Thanks.
Eric
Add \usepackage[labelsep=period]{caption} to your document's preamble.
/Paul
page numbering ToC, Bib
I am using komascript book and fancy headers.
The first page of each chapter has the page number in the center of the
footer. For the chapters I can turn this off with \thispagestyle{empty},
but the first page of the ToC and Bibliography still have the page
number in the center of the footer. I tried using
\pagenumbering{gobble} but that makes the page number in the ToC vanish
as well.
Any suggestions?
Eric
Re: LyX-Code doubt
Javier Moro Sotelo wrote:
O Luns 05 Xuño 2006 17:28, Paul A. Rubin escribiu:
This is a sample of the file, i get the error on the n dcd -3, -5, -6 line
#LyX 1.4.1 created this file. For more info see http://www.lyx.org/
\lyxformat 245
\begin_document
\begin_header
\textclass article
\language spanish
\inputencoding auto
\fontscheme default
\graphics default
\paperfontsize default
\papersize default
\use_geometry false
\use_amsmath 1
\cite_engine basic
\use_bibtopic false
\paperorientation portrait
\secnumdepth 3
\tocdepth 3
\paragraph_separation indent
\defskip medskip
\quotes_language english
\papercolumns 1
\papersides 1
\paperpagestyle default
\tracking_changes false
\output_changes false
\end_header
\begin_body
\begin_layout LyX-Code
area data
\end_layout
\begin_layout LyX-Code
n dcd -3, -5, -6
\end_layout
\end_body
\end_document
Congratulations! You found a bug in LyX 1.4.1. I'll report it to
bugzilla. Meanwhile, try the following two lines in your document preamble:
\usepackage{babel}
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hopefully that will fix the problem without screwing anything else up.
/Paul
Re: page numbering ToC, Bib
Eric Zollars wrote:
I am using komascript book and fancy headers.
The first page of each chapter has the page number in the center of the
footer. For the chapters I can turn this off with \thispagestyle{empty},
but the first page of the ToC and Bibliography still have the page
number in the center of the footer. I tried using
\pagenumbering{gobble} but that makes the page number in the ToC vanish
as well.
Any suggestions?
try
\renewcommand*{\chapterpagestyle}{empty}
Jürgen
Hacking bst files... [Was: Show entry type in References]
As I wrote in a previous post, I would like the references of my PhD thesis to be arranged as follows: References Articles [Art1] article1 [Art2] article2 etc Books [Book1] book1 [Book2] book2 etc etc ... LyX 1.4.1 supports sectioned bibliography, so it is possible to split the Bibliography chapter in sections. In order to have the citation as [Art1] and [Book1] etc, I need to hack a bst file, as suggested by Jürgen. I had a look to plain.bst and it doesn't sound so easy! In the end I would just like to add a prefix (Book, Art etc) to the reference numbering and to use a separate bst file for each entry (Books, Articles etc), so that the numbering starts with each section. Is there a resource where I can find how bst files work? or is there someone who can help me? Thanks for support, Diego
Re: LyX-Code doubt
O Luns 05 Xuño 2006 18:31, Paul A. Rubin escribiu:
\usepackage{babel}
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thank you for the help, now the lñast thing, where exactly shall I put those
two lines?
--
Javier Moro Sotelo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: Installing LyX 1.3.7 on Windows 98 - Solved fairly well
Stephen, If you have the hard drive space, you might also consider installing Linux on the machine to dual-boot. The machine I am using at the moment is a 600-mhz Pentium II I picked up for very little...added a hard drive I already had and stuck in 512 MB of RAM I also had. It works very well indeed. The CD problem is easily solved--especially if you have a computer flea market or a recycling center. If you look on any sizeable newsstand, you can find magazines with CD versions of various Linux distributions--or you can order them from places like cheapbytes.com. Another source is to order a CD for free--although it may take a while to arrive, from Ubuntu's shipit program. I use Kubuntu, the KDE version, which is also free. LyX, as you may know, has two UNIX interfaces--one uses an XForms frontend, the other uses the QT toolset--which is also that used by KDE. You will find that Internet surfing and most other activities you do will go faster in Linux than in Windows--although there will be a learning curve involved. If you have a few GB of hard drive space, though, you can easily set up the machine to give you a choice at boot time between Windows and Linux. If the rest of your machine is compatible, adding a CD reader shouldn't run more than $20 or so. David
Re: Hacking bst files... [Was: Show entry type in References]
Hi, 2006-06-05 18:46 +0200, Ares: As I wrote in a previous post, I would like the references of my PhD thesis to be arranged as follows: References Articles [Art1] article1 [Art2] article2 etc Books [Book1] book1 [Book2] book2 etc etc ... LyX 1.4.1 supports sectioned bibliography, so it is possible to split the Bibliography chapter in sections. In order to have the citation as [Art1] and [Book1] etc, I need to hack a bst file, as suggested by Jürgen. I had a look to plain.bst and it doesn't sound so easy! In the end I would just like to add a prefix (Book, Art etc) to the reference numbering and to use a separate bst file for each entry (Books, Articles etc), so that the numbering starts with each section. Actually, this is an issue related to the \bibitem command in the .bst file. However, adding a text before the number is a bit tricky... I have been testing several solutions but haven't find any yet. I keep testing... Kind regards, Kimmo
roman numbers
Dear lyx-users I have almost completed writing a thesis using the book-type lyx document. Unfortunately, I'm struggling to insert roman numbers for the first few introductory pages, followed by usual arabic numbering starting at Chapter 1. I know the solution has something to do with inserting latex commands (listed in the users guide extended features) via the Preamble option. I'm struggling with the details of how to use the Preamble. Would you please send me some advice? best wishes, Francois Engelbrecht University of Pretoria South Africa -- This message and attachments are subject to a disclaimer. Please refer to http://www.it.up.ac.za/documentation/governance/disclaimer/ for full details. / Hierdie boodskap en aanhangsels is aan 'n vrywaringsklousule onderhewig. Volledige besonderhede is by http://www.it.up.ac.za/documentation/governance/disclaimer/ beskikbaar.
Re: LyX-Code doubt
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 En/na Javier Moro Sotelo ha escrit: Thank you for the help, now the lñast thing, where exactly shall I put those two lines? If I understand Paul correctly, they should be at the LaTeX premble. You can access it through Document - Settings... - LaTeX Preamble. Just copy and paste. Marc. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFEhKJIu4rFT+k3kmQRAr1AAKC3SwL06SiyGofAYgqIUiLEgoVnhwCfaWNj x+arDDOALfZ7Ifolg17xc4Q= =hL+1 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: LyX-Code doubt
Marc Vinyals wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 En/na Javier Moro Sotelo ha escrit: Thank you for the help, now the lñast thing, where exactly shall I put those two lines? If I understand Paul correctly, they should be at the LaTeX premble. You can access it through Document - Settings... - LaTeX Preamble. Just copy and paste. Yes, that's correct. Incidentally, I filed a bug report on this. Apparently the change from LyX 1.3.7 (where there is no problem) to LyX 1.4.1 (where the problem arises) was itself a fix for a difficult bug, so the initial reaction was that this bug might not be fixed. However, that was just the first response; we'll see what other developers say. Meanwhile, please let the list know if this fix works (in particular, does not cause any other problems). /Paul
Re: Installing LyX 1.3.7 on Windows 98 - Solved very well
David Neeley wrote: Stephen, If you have the hard drive space, you might also consider installing Linux on the machine to dual-boot. The machine I am using at the moment is a 600-mhz Pentium II I picked up for very little...added a hard drive I already had and stuck in 512 MB of RAM I also had. It works very well indeed. Thanks for the input. I have an 80mb drive that dual boots WinXP and FC4. I was after solving the specific problem that LyX doesn't work on Windows98 just XP. On the developer list they put a fair amount of work into getting Win98 working for those users with old machines and laptops, before giving up. Some Windows users are not technically savvy and are intimidated by the idea of hardware installation or installing a new OS. Cygwin was made to run on Windows, not on Linux. So I was announcing the first purely Windows software solution to LyX not working on Win98. I thought it might work because Claus Hentschel released LyX1.3.1 which worked with win98 and Cygwin. LyX working natively (not X11) and then only for WinXP is less than a year old. Nico Jabin wrote me about using LyX on Win98 so I wanted to test (Re: Installing LyX 1.3.7 on Windows 98 - no appropriate help found) the install procedure before telling him that it would work. I found only two things not covered in Enrico's original simple Howto. Enrico wrote: Thinking about it, maybe you don't have C:\cygwin\bin in the Windows system PATH. If this is the case, then you can solve your problem simply copying lyx-x11.exe to C:\cygwin\bin and then creating a shortcut to C:\cygwin\bin\lyx-x11.exe. --- You are right. I tried earlier to put Cygwin in the Path, but the C:\ autoexec.bat had 0 bytes. So I cleverly appended C:\cygwin\bin to the autoexec.bat which exists in the C:\windows\command\EBD dir. and copied that file to C:\. That proved to be a big mistake. Now the C:\autoexec.bat file contains SET PATH=C:\Windows;C:\Cygwin\bin doskey which works *very well*! If, after installing cygnus, you get the message: Out of environment space add the line shell=C:\command.com /e:4096 /p to your c:\config.sys The CD problem is easily solved--especially if you have a computer flea market or a recycling center. If you look on any sizeable newsstand, you can find magazines with CD versions of various Linux distributions--or you can order them from places like cheapbytes.com. Another source is to order a CD for free--although it may take a while to arrive, from Ubuntu's shipit program. I use Kubuntu, the KDE version, which is also free. These sound like good resources for those with only dialup. My win98/modem is for backup when the dsl rarely goes down. I could have put a network card in it (also have to drill hole in wall for cable)or a spare cd but letting the dialup download run at night was less work. LyX, as you may know, has two UNIX interfaces--one uses an XForms frontend, the other uses the QT toolset--which is also that used by KDE. I was going to install KDE on Cygwin but they terminated the KDE X11 port to Cygwin windows. They have a native port in the works now. You will find that Internet surfing and most other activities you do will go faster in Linux than in Windows--although there will be a learning curve involved. If you have a few GB of hard drive space, though, you can easily set up the machine to give you a choice at boot time between Windows and Linux. I like yum install lyx on FC4. I figured the user already knew about Linux when he asked his question about Win98 (Cygwin is not standalone) so I was giving a win98 specific solution. I notice Bruce Byfield has written several articles about O0o as superior for technical writing than Word. But he doesn't think people are likely to change to it. David Regards, Stephen
Re: Installing LyX 1.3.7 on Windows 98 - Solved very well
Yes, OOo is superior to Word for tech writing--but then, almost anything is! I am trying to get far enough up the learning curve with LyX that I can feel good about creating style files. Then, I intend to do a style file for DITA--because I believe that LyX is, potentially, a far better tech writing solution than anything else out there at the moment. I also believe that DITA has advantages over most other XML-based solutions for the purpose...and it should be far easier for folks to learn and use consistently than DocBook, for instance. Most folks still using Win98 should, in my opinion, seek other solutions--especially if they want to keep using the same hardware. That was the genesis of my suggestion to dual-boot with Linux. I am not so charmed with Fedora--but then, I never really got into Red Hat to begin with. Before I went to Kubuntu, I mostly used SuSE. My main problem with Kubuntu at the moment is that the repository is still behind the times with 1.3.7--I did the ./configure/make/make install routine for 1.4.1. David
Re: Installing LyX 1.3.7 on Windows 98 - DITA detour
David Neeley wrote: I am trying to get far enough up the learning curve with LyX that I can feel good about creating style files. Then, I intend to do a style file for DITA--because I believe that LyX is, potentially, a far better tech writing solution than anything else out there at the moment. I also believe that DITA has advantages over most other XML-based solutions for the purpose...and it should be far easier for folks to learn and use consistently than DocBook, for instance. Directions for tomorrow's techwriting From: David Neeley Date: Mon, Apr 22 2002 8:24 am Groups: bit.listserv.techwr-l Greetings! I would appreciate your thoughts about the direction of technical writing departments and practices in the near future. Specifically, I invite your comments about my growing conviction that we will see a growing methodology shift driven by increased understanding of the benefits of creating documentation that is easy to re-use and maintain. It appears clear that this will in most cases be through employment of XML and repository tools based upon this technology. - SH: The Docbook topic comes up occasionally. Chris Karakas has done quite a bit of work producing with LyX, SGML, and Latex. http://www.karakas-online.de/mySGML/ There is quite a bit involved to get all the packages working together IMO. My main problem with Kubuntu at the moment is that the repository is still behind the times with 1.3.7--I did the ./configure/make/make install routine for 1.4.1. David I use Redhat because it installs so easily. I'm not able to argue the merits of Fedora vs. other Linux versions and also Rex Dieter monitors this list and he produces Fedora rpms very quickly, so I never have a problem with updates and LyX, it's very convenient. For those reading who are not acquainted with DITA: http://www.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=06/05/05/1744245 DITA Over the last couple of years, Oasis Darwin Information Typing Architecture (DITA) has been attracting a lot of attention among technical writers -- so much so that it's starting to eat into the market share of DocBook. Rather than being based on the traditional book-chapter-section format, DITA is meant for creating individual topics that you can combine and reuse in different types of documentation and in different delivery formats. You can use DITA to create just about any kind of documentation, but it's best suited for Web content, online help, computer-based training, knowledge bases, and FAQs. Because DITA is based on XML, you can use any text or XML editor to author DITA documents. Several editing tools both support DITA and run on Linux. My text editor of choice is Emacs in conjunction with psgmlx, which is what I use with DocBook. ... Right now, the only way to convert a DITA document to a more usable format on Linux is with the DITA Open Toolkit for Linux. The Open Toolkit is easy to use and can transform DITA content to HTML, XHTML, PDF, Eclipse Help, or RTF. --- http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/xml/library/x-emacs/ I think (X)Emacs has been developed longer in this area. I think Lyx 1.5 and 1.6 are slated to improve performance for XML and Unicode. I'm not sure how easy it will be to realize your goal, though I think it is a good idea. I've seen the developers with expert opinions, Jose Matos and Georg Baum express some interest in this topic. I think information about other approaches might be helpful; so much seems revolve around converting one format to another these days in various database paradigms (thinking of AI). Viva la Semantic Web! Stephen
Re: Installing LyX 1.3.7 on Windows 98 - DITA detour
Yes, this is a topic I have been interested in for some years. Creating documentation as a specialty seems an ideal use for LyX--at least, as it may become in future. One notion that becomes very important in document creation, updating, and management in general is the notion of chunking into topics. One firm that has built a business out of this idea is Information Mapping Inc., although their methods are still somewhat controversial in the field. Thinking of topical chunking is nearly an unnatural act for many--but it may prove extremely useful if we are to get very far with the implementation of XML-style technology in documentation. One large problem is the lack of uniformity in the way people think of and create documents. On the simplest level, that includes format differences from individual to individual--format differences that are aided and abetted by programs like Microsoft Word that allows--nay, *encourages*--the profligate use of style tags and many ways to get a particular visible result in a document.j My interest in LyX has been powered by this observation, and the thought that something must replace our existing tools if we are to get the real benefits of the separation of content and form. In short, the entire what you get is what you mean approach is long overdue! However, the question remains whether LyX itself is the answer, or a recast tool based around XML. In other words, all the stuff that accompanies TeX and its complexity designed originally for typesetting may make the learning curve sufficiently complex that many may find it not to be worthwhile, especially for technical documentation that lacks many of the needs of the scholarly dissertation, for example. That is one thing I am attempting to determine by going through that learning curve myself! I delayed turning to LyX for several years, since for a time it appeared to the casual observer to be somewhat of a dying application. An aborted Klyx (kde specific) version, for example, did not appear to be a sign of progress. I believe, though, that if a stylesheet is made for the creation of DITA topics, there is little of the TeX stuff that needs to be used at all. Resulting topics could then be used by some as-yet-unidentified DITA map/content management facility with very little learning curve for the writers involved in topic content creation. While I am personally fascinated with typography, we are a comparatively dying breed these days, it seems. One thing I am thinking of is the feasibility of a context-sensitive right-click menu that would enable a quicker selection of a particular style attribute rather than just the drop-down box in the present interface. Such a dropdown could also be easily triggered with a keyboard shortcut for those interested in true productivity--or perhaps a handful of keyboard shortcuts for the principal style designationsk, somewhat similar to the ones in FrameMaker. LyX seems to be extremely useful for creating indexes, which seems to me to be an often-neglected part of the written information trade. Indexing, though, could become extremely significant in content management--especially since indexing itself is in a major sense the extraction and processing of metadata. Thus, the information chunks represented by topic creation for content management may be best served by creating index references at the time the topics are written and placed in the repository originally. That would seem to permit the locating and employment of the right chunks to meet any arbitrary need. Then, creation of new documents as collections of these chunks would be greatly eased. Anyway, pardon my musings tonight...there is much that I am still at sea about in this whole subject. David On 6/5/06, Stephen Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David Neeley wrote: I am trying to get far enough up the learning curve with LyX that I can feel good about creating style files. Then, I intend to do a style file for DITA--because I believe that LyX is, potentially, a far better tech writing solution than anything else out there at the moment. I also believe that DITA has advantages over most other XML-based solutions for the purpose...and it should be far easier for folks to learn and use consistently than DocBook, for instance.
Re: Installing LyX 1.3.7 on Windows 98 - DITA detour
David Neeley wrote: I delayed turning to LyX for several years, since for a time it appeared to the casual observer to be somewhat of a dying application. An aborted Klyx (kde specific) version, for example, did not appear to be a sign of progress. http://www.lyx.org/about/klyx.php While I am personally fascinated with typography, we are a comparatively dying breed these days, it seems. Yes, it seems that way. LyX seems to be extremely useful for creating indexes, which seems to me to be an often-neglected part of the written information trade. Indexing, though, could become extremely significant in content management--especially since indexing itself is in a major sense the extraction and processing of metadata. Thus, the information chunks represented by topic creation for content management may be best served by creating index references at the time the topics are written and placed in the repository originally. That would seem to permit the locating and employment of the right chunks to meet any arbitrary need. Then, creation of new documents as collections of these chunks would be greatly eased. They say you can't judge a book by its cover but by its index. It reminds me of Explore XY which takes for ages to finish. http://explorexy.com/ CORRELATION – the process of establishing a relationship or connection between two or more subjects. EXPLORATION – the process of traveling in or through an unfamiliar area in order to learn about it. Correlation and exploration. Doing both, in depth, on the Internet was impossible. Not with search engines. Not with data mining. Not with crawlers or bots. Not with anything. Until now. Introducing Explore XY. Explore XY is a Knowledge Discovery Vehicle (KDVTM). A KDV is a radical, patented desktop application that explores all the web’s pages to find any correlation between two subjects. It reads a URL/web page and reports back text and source links that are relevant to connecting the two subjects. Download it for free now! Anyway, pardon my musings tonight...there is much that I am still at sea about in this whole subject. David I enjoyed reading your thoughts and also Techwriter's toolkits and directions for tomorrow (long and deep response) twirlers Bill Hall Any port in a storm :-) Stephen
Re: roman numbers
In the book class you can just use the ERT at the beginning of the document:
\pagenumbering{roman}
and in Chapter 1:
\pagenumbering{arabic}
no preamble needed.
Eric
Francois Engelbrecht wrote:
Dear lyx-users
I have almost completed writing a thesis using the book-type lyx
document. Unfortunately, I'm struggling to insert roman numbers for the
first few introductory pages, followed by usual arabic numbering
starting at Chapter 1. I know the solution has something to do with
inserting latex commands (listed in the users guide extended features)
via the Preamble option. I'm struggling with the details of how to use
the Preamble. Would you please send me some advice?
best wishes,
Francois Engelbrecht
University of Pretoria
South Africa
Show entry type in References
I would probaly try to hack alpha.bst. I'll try this. thanks Jürgen ...but now I have a new problem: I don't manage to get the Bibliography in the Table of Contents. If I use the option Sectioned Bibliography, I cannot check the option "Add bibliography to TOC" in the "BibTeX generated bibliography" dialog. What I did is to define the "Bibliography" section name as a Chapter* (chapter title without numbering). Either this way, the Bibliography does not appear in TOC. I also went to Document settings --> Numbering and TOC, but it is not possible from here to change the behaviour of Chapter* since Chapter* is not there at all! but there are Part* and Section*, so why not Chapter* ? By the way, I noticed that even if I set Part* and Section* to appear in TOC, they don't. What's wrong? is it a bug or maybe I don't get the meaning of it all? Thanks again for your support, Diego -- Messaggio inoltrato -- From: Ares <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2006 13:16:56 +0200 Subject: Show entry type in References I found that LyX 1.4.1 (on Win) has the option document > settings... > bibliography > sectioned bibliography, so i can insert multiple bibtex generated bibliography and add section (or subsection) names by myself. There's some cons, though: - I have to define myself the "Bibliography" section name - I'm still not able to define the citation style as [Art1], [Art2] etc for articles, [Book1], [Book2] etc for books etc. Should I define a bst file by myself? Thanks for your support Diego From: Sara Stymne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 19:51:47 +0200 Subject: Re: Show entry type in References Hi! You might find an answer here: http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?label=multbib /Sara Ares wrote: Hello everyone, I'm using LyX to compile a PhD thesis and a bibtex database for references, and I'm new to both. I would like to group the references according to entry type, and to show the entry type itself in the references. this would look like, for instance: ... References articles [Art1] article1 [Art2] article2 etc Books [Book1] book1 [Book2] book2 etc etc ... Is there anyone who knows how to do that? maybe using an appropriate bst file that does that?? Thanks for your support Diego -- Messaggio inoltrato -- From: Juergen Spitzmueller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2006 13:57:05 +0200 Subject: Re: Show entry type in References Ares wrote: I found that LyX 1.4.1 (on Win) has the option document > settings... > bibliography > sectioned bibliography, so i can insert multiple bibtex generated bibliography and add section (or subsection) names by myself. There's some cons, though: - I have to define myself the "Bibliography" section name What's the problem with that? Otherwise it wouldn't simply be possible to add your own bibliography section headings. The option "printheadings" (in Document->Settings->Class Options), however, changes the behaviour. - I'm still not able to define the citation style as [Art1], [Art2] etc for articles, [Book1], [Book2] etc for books etc. Should I define a bst file by myself? yes. I would probaly try to hack alpha.bst. (as an alternative, if you have a manageable number of citations, the package "splitbib" might help). Jürgen
Re: problème avec lyx
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Bonjour je suis un nouvel utilisateur de lyx et j'ai un problème lorsque je convertit mon document au format dvi. Le message d'erreur est le suivant : "An error occured whilst running Python" "D:/Utilitaires/lyx 1.4.1/Ressources/scripts The problem might be the changed MiKTeX configuration. Replace the file "hyperref.cfg" in your MiKTeX installation (in the folder ~\texmf\tex\latex\00miktex) with this one: http://prdownload.berlios.de/lyxwininstall/hyperref.cfg Then restart LyX and try it again. regards Uwe
Re: problème avec lyx (Ihave a prob lem with lyx windows 1.4.1)
Paul A. Rubin wrote: > A S Hodel wrote: > >> I think the translation is a bit different: (but then again, I'm >> an American so take this with a grain of salt) >> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>> Bonjour je suis un nouvel utilisateur de lyx et j'ai un problème lorsque je convertit mon document au format dvi. Le message d'erreur est le suivant : "An error occured whilst running Python" "D:/Utilitaires/lyx 1.4.1/Ressources/scripts Et lorsque je demande la version en Draftdvi le message est :"Bad dvi file" En fait les problèmes disparaissent quand j'enlève mes images Bitmap du document. Pourrait-on m'expliquer le problème et comment y remédier ? Merci par avance. >> >> >> I am a new Lyx user and I have a problem when I convert my >> document to dvi format. The error message is the following: "An >> error occured whilst running Python" "D:/Utilitaires/lyx >> 1.4.1/Ressources/scripts >> >> And when I ask the version in Draftdvi the message is "Bad dvi >> file." >> >> In fact these problems disappear when I upload my bitmap images >> from the document. Can some explain the problem and how to remedy >> it? Thanks in advance >> >> -- >> >> I regret I can't answer the question, but perhaps the additional >> detail in the translation may help. >> >> A S Hodel http://homepage.mac.com/hodelas [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> >> > > The best approach would be for the original poster to post a > minimal example (LyX document plus image) that triggers the error > message. Any volunteers to translate that to French? > > /Paul Destiné à [EMAIL PROTECTED], traduction d'une demande de précision de Paul Rubin (ci-dessus) concernant le problème : "La meilleure façon serait pour celui qui a envoyé le message initial serait de poster un exemple minimal (document lyx plus image) qui conduit au message d'erreur."
Re: Show entry type in References
Ares wrote:
> If I use the option Sectioned Bibliography, I cannot check the option "Add
> bibliography to TOC" in the "BibTeX generated bibliography" dialog.
Yes, because there isn't a heading to add.
> What I did is to define the "Bibliography" section name as a Chapter*
> (chapter title without numbering). Either this way, the Bibliography does
> not appear in TOC. I also went to Document settings --> Numbering and TOC,
> but it is not possible from here to change the behaviour of Chapter* since
> Chapter* is not there at all! but there are Part* and Section*, so why not
> Chapter* ? By the way, I noticed that even if I set Part* and Section* to
> appear in TOC, they don't. What's wrong? is it a bug or maybe I don't get
> the meaning of it all?
The starred versions of the headings are _by definition_ excluded from the
toc. So either add
\addcontentsline{toc}{chapter}{Bibliography}
in ERT below the heading, or use the KOMA-script classes, which provide
\addchap (unnumbered headings that are included in the TOC).
HTH,
Jürgen
Re: including Table of Contents in Table of Contents
Eric Zollars wrote:
> How do I include the Table of Contents in the Table of Contents?
\usepackage{tocbibind}
(though I doubt that there is any serious reason for including the toc in the
toc).
Jürgen
Bibliography in TOC [Was: Show entry type in References]
I managed to get the Bibliography in TOC in the output file by using the TeX command \backmatter right before the Bibliography Chapter (not Chapter*) and preceded by a page break. See: http://groups.google.com/group/comp.text.tex/browse_thread/thread/ce999aa747cf4a3e/36b1505bedbf3288?q=starred+TOC=1#36b1505bedbf3288 In this way, inside LyX you get the Bibliography chapter numbered, and as an appendix (if you have, as in my case, appendixes), also appearing in LyX file TOC. When you view the pdf, for example, you get a nice Bibliography title (without number) in TOC of the compiled document. Perhaps it is a dirty trick, but it works... Anyway the Document settings --> Numbering and TOC pane does not work... is it a bug? how to report it? Regards, Diego -- Forwarded message -- From: Ares <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 5-giu-2006 10.58 Subject: Show entry type in References To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org I would probaly try to hack alpha.bst. I'll try this. thanks Jürgen ...but now I have a new problem: I don't manage to get the Bibliography in the Table of Contents. If I use the option Sectioned Bibliography, I cannot check the option "Add bibliography to TOC" in the "BibTeX generated bibliography" dialog. What I did is to define the "Bibliography" section name as a Chapter* (chapter title without numbering). Either this way, the Bibliography does not appear in TOC. I also went to Document settings --> Numbering and TOC, but it is not possible from here to change the behaviour of Chapter* since Chapter* is not there at all! but there are Part* and Section*, so why not Chapter* ? By the way, I noticed that even if I set Part* and Section* to appear in TOC, they don't. What's wrong? is it a bug or maybe I don't get the meaning of it all? Thanks again for your support, Diego -- Messaggio inoltrato -- From: Ares <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2006 13:16:56 +0200 Subject: Show entry type in References I found that LyX 1.4.1 (on Win) has the option document > settings... > bibliography > sectioned bibliography, so i can insert multiple bibtex generated bibliography and add section (or subsection) names by myself. There's some cons, though: - I have to define myself the "Bibliography" section name - I'm still not able to define the citation style as [Art1], [Art2] etc for articles, [Book1], [Book2] etc for books etc. Should I define a bst file by myself? Thanks for your support Diego From: Sara Stymne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 19:51:47 +0200 Subject: Re: Show entry type in References Hi! You might find an answer here: http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?label=multbib /Sara Ares wrote: Hello everyone, I'm using LyX to compile a PhD thesis and a bibtex database for references, and I'm new to both. I would like to group the references according to entry type, and to show the entry type itself in the references. this would look like, for instance: ... References articles [Art1] article1 [Art2] article2 etc Books [Book1] book1 [Book2] book2 etc etc ... Is there anyone who knows how to do that? maybe using an appropriate bst file that does that?? Thanks for your support Diego -- Messaggio inoltrato -- From: Juergen Spitzmueller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2006 13:57:05 +0200 Subject: Re: Show entry type in References Ares wrote: I found that LyX 1.4.1 (on Win) has the option document > settings... > bibliography > sectioned bibliography, so i can insert multiple bibtex generated bibliography and add section (or subsection) names by myself. There's some cons, though: - I have to define myself the "Bibliography" section name What's the problem with that? Otherwise it wouldn't simply be possible to add your own bibliography section headings. The option "printheadings" (in Document->Settings->Class Options), however, changes the behaviour. - I'm still not able to define the citation style as [Art1], [Art2] etc for articles, [Book1], [Book2] etc for books etc. Should I define a bst file by myself? yes. I would probaly try to hack alpha.bst. (as an alternative, if you have a manageable number of citations, the package "splitbib" might help). Jürgen
Re: Chapter base Page numbering to TOC
2006/6/2, Sara Stymne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: You can get the word "Chapter" in komascript. Just add the class option "chapterprefix". You add it in the documents settings: class settings, options. great... there's more i want to ask... 1. The font for Chapter, and some other is different in report(komascript), 2. the line spacing between abstract, lof, lot in TOC is too far how to make it shorter... ? also line spacing in chapter title too far, and too much blank line at top part of page... 3. how to remove page number at TOC ? i want the page number for some part, for example the bibliography, not displayed at TOC. But the bibliography list is still exist in TOC. 4. the abstract title, not displayed at abstract page if using Report(komascript) thanks...
Re: LyX and TeXShop
Thank you Bennett, Stephen, Maria, and Tomoharu. I've made TeXShop my default pdf previewer in the finder. A step up from Preview. Bruce On Jun 2, 2006, at 9:56 PM, Bennett Helm wrote: On Jun 2, 2006, at 5:44 PM, Stephen Buonopane wrote: Does TeXShop make a better previewer than the default (Preview) for LyX/Mac? To change the viewer to TeXShop in LyX/Mac 1.4.1, I put -a texshop in the viewer space after doing Preferences > File formats > PDF (pdflatex). But viewing a LyX file then gave an error. Does texshop have to be by itself in the Applications folder? downloading mactex left TeXShop in a folder called TeX in the Applications folder, and not having sufficient authority I can't move it. I use TexShop as my pdf viewer for LyX. It is the only OS X viewer that I know of that will update automatically when the pdf file changes. This way you can leave the pdf open in TexShop and use View->Update in LyX. I installed TexXhop directly, so it is in the top level of my Applications folder. But you can put the full path name in the LyX preferences. Not sure where it looks by default. I have open -a 'TeXShop' Maybe you need the single quotes? Did you try a Reconfigure...Quit...Relaunch? As others have noted, open -a TeXShop.app is what's needed. Another option, though, is to define TeXShop as the default pdf viewer in the Finder. (Select a .pdf file, select File > Get Info, select TeXShop in the "Open With" drop down menu, and click on the "Change all..." button.) Then you can leave LyX's viewer for .pdf files simply as "open", and everything will work. Again, as others have noted, the major benefit of using TeXShop is that it will automatically update the screen when the .pdf file changes. That's true whether you choose View > Update > PDF (pdflatex) or simply View > PDF (pdflatex). (Reconfigure, relaunch are not necessary here.) In fact, it's possible to trick LyX into running LaTeX in the background, so that you can continue working on your document while it is typesetting. (That's useful on long documents like the book I'm currently working on, which is > 100,000 words and which takes a minute or so for each pdflatex run.) How do you do this? 1. In LyX > Preferences > File formats, define a new file format as follows: Format = latex2, GUI name = PDFLaTeX (update), Extension = tex, Viewer = pdflatex. 2. In LyX > Preferences > Converters, define a new converter from LaTeX to PDFLaTeX (update), with Converter = touch $$i and Extra flag = latex. Now when you select View > PDFLaTeX (Update), LyX will generate a new .tex file and run pdflatex once on it. Once the .pdf file is generated, TeXShop will update its screen. Two things to note about this (which may make it confusing to those not familiar with LaTeX). First, if you are not currently viewing the .pdf file in TeXShop, that file will not be opened and so nothing will appear to happen (though in fact the .pdf file will be generated in your tmp directory). Second, pdflatex is only run once here, and bibtex and makeindex are not run at all. So if you add a new cross reference, it may take 2 pdflatex runs to generate the proper reference, and if you add a new citation, this trick will fail to generate the output properly. (For that, run the standard View > PDF (pdflatex).) Bennett
Re: LyX-Code doubt
Javier Moro Sotelo wrote: O Luns 05 Xuño 2006 00:00, Paul A. Rubin escribiu: Re: LyX-Code doubt First of all thaks for the help No, I'm not trying to define a new font, I'm trying to inserte an assambler source code as part of my document (it's an article about ARM assambler language) but when I try to convert it to pdf I get the error: "A character number must be beetweeb 0 and 255. I changed this one to zero" because the source code contains some negative numbers: some code *** num1 dcd 3, 17, 27, 12, 322 ->> this is the line where I get the error message *** some code If you want I can send you the lyx file to see it clearly. The source code is just text to LaTeX, so the error message is probably something else -- possibly a non-printing character inconsistent with the document's character encoding got pasted in accidentally (?). Anyway, yes, the best thing would be to post the LyX file. It would help if you cut it down to a minimal example. /Paul
Re: LyX-Code doubt
O Luns 05 Xuño 2006 17:28, Paul A. Rubin escribiu: This is a sample of the file, i get the error on the "n dcd -3, -5, -6" line #LyX 1.4.1 created this file. For more info see http://www.lyx.org/ \lyxformat 245 \begin_document \begin_header \textclass article \language spanish \inputencoding auto \fontscheme default \graphics default \paperfontsize default \papersize default \use_geometry false \use_amsmath 1 \cite_engine basic \use_bibtopic false \paperorientation portrait \secnumdepth 3 \tocdepth 3 \paragraph_separation indent \defskip medskip \quotes_language english \papercolumns 1 \papersides 1 \paperpagestyle default \tracking_changes false \output_changes false \end_header \begin_body \begin_layout LyX-Code area data \end_layout \begin_layout LyX-Code n dcd -3, -5, -6 \end_layout \end_body \end_document > Javier Moro Sotelo wrote: > > O Luns 05 Xuño 2006 00:00, Paul A. Rubin escribiu: > >> Re: LyX-Code doubt > > > > First of all thaks for the help > > > > No, I'm not trying to define a new font, I'm trying to inserte an > > assambler source code as part of my document (it's an article about ARM > > assambler language) but when I try to convert it to pdf I get the error: > > "A character number must be beetweeb 0 and 255. I changed this one to > > zero" because the source code contains some negative numbers: > > > > some code > > *** > > num1 dcd 3, 17, 27, 12, 322 ->> this is the line where I get the error > > message *** > > some code > > > > If you want I can send you the lyx file to see it clearly. > > The source code is just text to LaTeX, so the error message is probably > something else -- possibly a non-printing character inconsistent with > the document's character encoding got pasted in accidentally (?). > Anyway, yes, the best thing would be to post the LyX file. It would > help if you cut it down to a minimal example. > > /Paul -- Javier Moro Sotelo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> key_id=0xA92B3FC8 server=hkp://subkeys.pgp.net pgpkzaZbwZmDG.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: periods instead of colon after Figure, Table
Eric Zollars wrote:
Is it possible to use a period
Figure 1.1.
instead of a colon
Figure 1.1:
after Figure, Table, etc.
Thanks.
Eric
Add \usepackage[labelsep=period]{caption} to your document's preamble.
/Paul
page numbering ToC, Bib
I am using komascript book and fancy headers.
The first page of each chapter has the page number in the center of the
footer. For the chapters I can turn this off with \thispagestyle{empty},
but the first page of the ToC and Bibliography still have the page
number in the center of the footer. I tried using
\pagenumbering{gobble} but that makes the page number in the ToC vanish
as well.
Any suggestions?
Eric
Re: LyX-Code doubt
Javier Moro Sotelo wrote:
O Luns 05 Xuño 2006 17:28, Paul A. Rubin escribiu:
This is a sample of the file, i get the error on the "n dcd -3, -5, -6" line
#LyX 1.4.1 created this file. For more info see http://www.lyx.org/
\lyxformat 245
\begin_document
\begin_header
\textclass article
\language spanish
\inputencoding auto
\fontscheme default
\graphics default
\paperfontsize default
\papersize default
\use_geometry false
\use_amsmath 1
\cite_engine basic
\use_bibtopic false
\paperorientation portrait
\secnumdepth 3
\tocdepth 3
\paragraph_separation indent
\defskip medskip
\quotes_language english
\papercolumns 1
\papersides 1
\paperpagestyle default
\tracking_changes false
\output_changes false
\end_header
\begin_body
\begin_layout LyX-Code
area data
\end_layout
\begin_layout LyX-Code
n dcd -3, -5, -6
\end_layout
\end_body
\end_document
Congratulations! You found a bug in LyX 1.4.1. I'll report it to
bugzilla. Meanwhile, try the following two lines in your document preamble:
\usepackage{babel}
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hopefully that will fix the problem without screwing anything else up.
/Paul
Re: page numbering ToC, Bib
Eric Zollars wrote:
> I am using komascript book and fancy headers.
>
> The first page of each chapter has the page number in the center of the
> footer. For the chapters I can turn this off with \thispagestyle{empty},
> but the first page of the ToC and Bibliography still have the page
> number in the center of the footer. I tried using
> \pagenumbering{gobble} but that makes the page number in the ToC vanish
> as well.
>
> Any suggestions?
try
\renewcommand*{\chapterpagestyle}{empty}
Jürgen
Hacking bst files... [Was: Show entry type in References]
As I wrote in a previous post, I would like the references of my PhD thesis to be arranged as follows: References Articles [Art1] article1 [Art2] article2 etc Books [Book1] book1 [Book2] book2 etc etc ... LyX 1.4.1 supports "sectioned bibliography", so it is possible to split the Bibliography chapter in sections. In order to have the citation as [Art1] and [Book1] etc, I need to hack a bst file, as suggested by Jürgen. I had a look to plain.bst and it doesn't sound so easy! In the end I would just like to add a prefix (Book, Art etc) to the reference numbering and to use a separate bst file for each entry (Books, Articles etc), so that the numbering starts with each "section". Is there a resource where I can find how bst files work? or is there someone who can help me? Thanks for support, Diego
Re: LyX-Code doubt
O Luns 05 Xuño 2006 18:31, Paul A. Rubin escribiu:
> \usepackage{babel}
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thank you for the help, now the lñast thing, where exactly shall I put those
two lines?
--
Javier Moro Sotelo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Re: Installing LyX 1.3.7 on Windows 98 - Solved fairly well
Stephen, If you have the hard drive space, you might also consider installing Linux on the machine to dual-boot. The machine I am using at the moment is a 600-mhz Pentium II I picked up for very little...added a hard drive I already had and stuck in 512 MB of RAM I also had. It works very well indeed. The CD problem is easily solved--especially if you have a computer flea market or a recycling center. If you look on any sizeable newsstand, you can find magazines with CD versions of various Linux distributions--or you can order them from places like cheapbytes.com. Another source is to order a CD for free--although it may take a while to arrive, from Ubuntu's "shipit" program. I use Kubuntu, the KDE version, which is also free. LyX, as you may know, has two UNIX interfaces--one uses an XForms frontend, the other uses the QT toolset--which is also that used by KDE. You will find that Internet surfing and most other activities you do will go faster in Linux than in Windows--although there will be a learning curve involved. If you have a few GB of hard drive space, though, you can easily set up the machine to give you a choice at boot time between Windows and Linux. If the rest of your machine is compatible, adding a CD reader shouldn't run more than $20 or so. David
Re: Hacking bst files... [Was: Show entry type in References]
Hi, 2006-06-05 18:46 +0200, Ares: > As I wrote in a previous post, I would like the references of my PhD thesis > to be arranged as follows: > > > References > > > > Articles > > [Art1] article1 > > [Art2] article2 > > etc > > Books > > [Book1] book1 > > [Book2] book2 > > etc > > etc > > ... > > LyX 1.4.1 supports "sectioned bibliography", so it is possible to split the > Bibliography chapter in sections. > > In order to have the citation as [Art1] and [Book1] etc, I need to hack a > bst file, as suggested by Jürgen. I had a look to plain.bst and it doesn't > sound so easy! > In the end I would just like to add a prefix (Book, Art etc) to the > reference numbering and to use a separate bst file for each entry (Books, > Articles etc), so that the numbering starts with each "section". Actually, this is an issue related to the \bibitem command in the .bst file. However, adding a text before the number is a bit tricky... I have been testing several solutions but haven't find any yet. I keep testing... Kind regards, Kimmo
roman numbers
Dear lyx-users I have almost completed writing a thesis using the book-type lyx document. Unfortunately, I'm struggling to insert roman numbers for the first few introductory pages, followed by usual arabic numbering starting at Chapter 1. I know the solution has something to do with inserting latex commands (listed in the users guide extended features) via the Preamble option. I'm struggling with the details of how to use the Preamble. Would you please send me some advice? best wishes, Francois Engelbrecht University of Pretoria South Africa -- This message and attachments are subject to a disclaimer. Please refer to http://www.it.up.ac.za/documentation/governance/disclaimer/ for full details. / Hierdie boodskap en aanhangsels is aan 'n vrywaringsklousule onderhewig. Volledige besonderhede is by http://www.it.up.ac.za/documentation/governance/disclaimer/ beskikbaar.
Re: LyX-Code doubt
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 En/na Javier Moro Sotelo ha escrit: > Thank you for the help, now the lñast thing, where exactly shall I put those > two lines? If I understand Paul correctly, they should be at the LaTeX premble. You can access it through Document -> Settings... -> LaTeX Preamble. Just copy and paste. Marc. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFEhKJIu4rFT+k3kmQRAr1AAKC3SwL06SiyGofAYgqIUiLEgoVnhwCfaWNj x+arDDOALfZ7Ifolg17xc4Q= =hL+1 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: LyX-Code doubt
Marc Vinyals wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 En/na Javier Moro Sotelo ha escrit: Thank you for the help, now the lñast thing, where exactly shall I put those two lines? If I understand Paul correctly, they should be at the LaTeX premble. You can access it through Document -> Settings... -> LaTeX Preamble. Just copy and paste. Yes, that's correct. Incidentally, I filed a bug report on this. Apparently the change from LyX 1.3.7 (where there is no problem) to LyX 1.4.1 (where the problem arises) was itself a fix for a difficult bug, so the initial reaction was that this bug might not be fixed. However, that was just the first response; we'll see what other developers say. Meanwhile, please let the list know if this fix works (in particular, does not cause any other problems). /Paul
Re: Installing LyX 1.3.7 on Windows 98 - Solved very well
David Neeley wrote: Stephen, If you have the hard drive space, you might also consider installing Linux on the machine to dual-boot. The machine I am using at the moment is a 600-mhz Pentium II I picked up for very little...added a hard drive I already had and stuck in 512 MB of RAM I also had. It works very well indeed. Thanks for the input. I have an 80mb drive that dual boots WinXP and FC4. I was after solving the specific problem that LyX doesn't work on Windows98 just XP. On the developer list they put a fair amount of work into getting Win98 working for those users with old machines and laptops, before giving up. Some Windows users are not technically savvy and are intimidated by the idea of hardware installation or installing a new OS. Cygwin was made to run on Windows, not on Linux. So I was announcing the first purely Windows software solution to LyX not working on Win98. I thought it might work because Claus Hentschel released LyX1.3.1 which worked with win98 and Cygwin. LyX working natively (not X11) and then only for WinXP is less than a year old. Nico Jabin wrote me about using LyX on Win98 so I wanted to test (Re: Installing LyX 1.3.7 on Windows 98 - no appropriate help found) the install procedure before telling him that it would work. I found only two things not covered in Enrico's original simple Howto. Enrico wrote: "Thinking about it, maybe you don't have C:\cygwin\bin in the Windows system PATH. If this is the case, then you can solve your problem simply copying lyx-x11.exe to C:\cygwin\bin and then creating a shortcut to C:\cygwin\bin\lyx-x11.exe." --- You are right. I tried earlier to put Cygwin in the Path, but the C:\ autoexec.bat had 0 bytes. So I cleverly appended C:\cygwin\bin to the autoexec.bat which exists in the C:\windows\command\EBD dir. and copied that file to C:\. That proved to be a big mistake. Now the C:\autoexec.bat file contains SET PATH=C:\Windows;C:\Cygwin\bin doskey which works *very well*! If, after installing cygnus, you get the message: Out of environment space add the line shell=C:\command.com /e:4096 /p to your c:\config.sys The CD problem is easily solved--especially if you have a computer flea market or a recycling center. If you look on any sizeable newsstand, you can find magazines with CD versions of various Linux distributions--or you can order them from places like cheapbytes.com. Another source is to order a CD for free--although it may take a while to arrive, from Ubuntu's "shipit" program. I use Kubuntu, the KDE version, which is also free. These sound like good resources for those with only dialup. My win98/modem is for backup when the dsl rarely goes down. I could have put a network card in it (also have to drill hole in wall for cable)or a spare cd but letting the dialup download run at night was less work. LyX, as you may know, has two UNIX interfaces--one uses an XForms frontend, the other uses the QT toolset--which is also that used by KDE. I was going to install KDE on Cygwin but they terminated the KDE X11 port to Cygwin windows. They have a native port in the works now. You will find that Internet surfing and most other activities you do will go faster in Linux than in Windows--although there will be a learning curve involved. If you have a few GB of hard drive space, though, you can easily set up the machine to give you a choice at boot time between Windows and Linux. I like "yum install lyx" on FC4. I figured the user already knew about Linux when he asked his question about Win98 (Cygwin is not standalone) so I was giving a win98 specific solution. I notice Bruce Byfield has written several articles about O0o as superior for technical writing than Word. But he doesn't think people are likely to change to it. David Regards, Stephen
Re: Installing LyX 1.3.7 on Windows 98 - Solved very well
Yes, OOo is superior to Word for tech writing--but then, almost anything is! I am trying to get far enough up the learning curve with LyX that I can feel good about creating style files. Then, I intend to do a style file for DITA--because I believe that LyX is, potentially, a far better tech writing solution than anything else out there at the moment. I also believe that DITA has advantages over most other XML-based solutions for the purpose...and it should be far easier for folks to learn and use consistently than DocBook, for instance. Most folks still using Win98 should, in my opinion, seek other solutions--especially if they want to keep using the same hardware. That was the genesis of my suggestion to dual-boot with Linux. I am not so charmed with Fedora--but then, I never really got into Red Hat to begin with. Before I went to Kubuntu, I mostly used SuSE. My main problem with Kubuntu at the moment is that the repository is still behind the times with 1.3.7--I did the ./configure/make/make install routine for 1.4.1. David
Re: Installing LyX 1.3.7 on Windows 98 - DITA detour
David Neeley wrote: I am trying to get far enough up the learning curve with LyX that I can feel good about creating style files. Then, I intend to do a style file for DITA--because I believe that LyX is, potentially, a far better tech writing solution than anything else out there at the moment. I also believe that DITA has advantages over most other XML-based solutions for the purpose...and it should be far easier for folks to learn and use consistently than DocBook, for instance. Directions for tomorrow's techwriting From: David Neeley Date: Mon, Apr 22 2002 8:24 am Groups: bit.listserv.techwr-l Greetings! "I would appreciate your thoughts about the direction of technical writing departments and practices in the near future. Specifically, I invite your comments about my growing conviction that we will see a growing methodology shift driven by increased understanding of the benefits of creating documentation that is easy to re-use and maintain. It appears clear that this will in most cases be through employment of XML and repository tools based upon this technology." - SH: The Docbook topic comes up occasionally. Chris Karakas has done quite a bit of work producing with LyX, SGML, and Latex. http://www.karakas-online.de/mySGML/ There is quite a bit involved to get all the packages working together IMO. My main problem with Kubuntu at the moment is that the repository is still behind the times with 1.3.7--I did the ./configure/make/make install routine for 1.4.1. David I use Redhat because it installs so easily. I'm not able to argue the merits of Fedora vs. other Linux versions and also Rex Dieter monitors this list and he produces Fedora rpms very quickly, so I never have a problem with updates and LyX, it's very convenient. For those reading who are not acquainted with DITA: http://www.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=06/05/05/1744245 DITA "Over the last couple of years, Oasis Darwin Information Typing Architecture (DITA) has been attracting a lot of attention among technical writers -- so much so that it's starting to eat into the market share of DocBook. Rather than being based on the traditional book-chapter-section format, DITA is meant for creating individual topics that you can combine and reuse in different types of documentation and in different delivery formats. You can use DITA to create just about any kind of documentation, but it's best suited for Web content, online help, computer-based training, knowledge bases, and FAQs. Because DITA is based on XML, you can use any text or XML editor to author DITA documents. Several editing tools both support DITA and run on Linux. My text editor of choice is Emacs in conjunction with psgmlx, which is what I use with DocBook. ... Right now, the only way to convert a DITA document to a more usable format on Linux is with the DITA Open Toolkit for Linux. The Open Toolkit is easy to use and can transform DITA content to HTML, XHTML, PDF, Eclipse Help, or RTF." --- http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/xml/library/x-emacs/ I think (X)Emacs has been developed longer in this area. I think Lyx 1.5 and 1.6 are slated to improve performance for XML and Unicode. I'm not sure how easy it will be to realize your goal, though I think it is a good idea. I've seen the developers with expert opinions, Jose Matos and Georg Baum express some interest in this topic. I think information about other approaches might be helpful; so much seems revolve around converting one format to another these days in various database paradigms (thinking of AI). Viva la Semantic Web! Stephen
Re: Installing LyX 1.3.7 on Windows 98 - DITA detour
Yes, this is a topic I have been interested in for some years. Creating documentation as a specialty seems an ideal use for LyX--at least, as it may become in future. One notion that becomes very important in document creation, updating, and management in general is the notion of "chunking" into topics. One firm that has built a business out of this idea is Information Mapping Inc., although their methods are still somewhat controversial in the field. Thinking of topical "chunking" is nearly an unnatural act for many--but it may prove extremely useful if we are to get very far with the implementation of XML-style technology in documentation. One large problem is the lack of uniformity in the way people think of and create documents. On the simplest level, that includes format differences from individual to individual--format differences that are aided and abetted by programs like Microsoft Word that allows--nay, *encourages*--the profligate use of style tags and many ways to get a particular visible result in a document.j My interest in LyX has been powered by this observation, and the thought that something must replace our existing tools if we are to get the real benefits of the separation of content and form. In short, the entire "what you get is what you mean" approach is long overdue! However, the question remains whether LyX itself is the answer, or a recast tool based around XML. In other words, all the "stuff" that accompanies TeX and its complexity designed originally for typesetting may make the learning curve sufficiently complex that many may find it not to be worthwhile, especially for technical documentation that lacks many of the needs of the scholarly dissertation, for example. That is one thing I am attempting to determine by going through that learning curve myself! I delayed turning to LyX for several years, since for a time it appeared to the casual observer to be somewhat of a dying application. An aborted "Klyx" (kde specific) version, for example, did not appear to be a sign of progress. I believe, though, that if a stylesheet is made for the creation of DITA topics, there is little of the TeX stuff that needs to be used at all. Resulting topics could then be used by some as-yet-unidentified DITA map/content management facility with very little learning curve for the writers involved in topic content creation. While I am personally fascinated with typography, we are a comparatively dying breed these days, it seems. One thing I am thinking of is the feasibility of a context-sensitive right-click menu that would enable a quicker selection of a particular style attribute rather than just the drop-down box in the present interface. Such a dropdown could also be easily triggered with a keyboard shortcut for those interested in true productivity--or perhaps a handful of keyboard shortcuts for the principal style designationsk, somewhat similar to the ones in FrameMaker. LyX seems to be extremely useful for creating indexes, which seems to me to be an often-neglected part of the written information trade. Indexing, though, could become extremely significant in content management--especially since indexing itself is in a major sense the extraction and processing of metadata. Thus, the information chunks represented by topic creation for content management may be best served by creating index references at the time the topics are written and placed in the repository originally. That would seem to permit the locating and employment of the right chunks to meet any arbitrary need. Then, creation of new documents as collections of these chunks would be greatly eased. Anyway, pardon my musings tonight...there is much that I am still at sea about in this whole subject. David On 6/5/06, Stephen Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: David Neeley wrote: > I am trying to get far enough up the learning curve with LyX that I > can feel good about creating style files. Then, I intend to do a style > file for DITA--because I believe that LyX is, potentially, a far > better tech writing solution than anything else out there at the > moment. I also believe that DITA has advantages over most other > XML-based solutions for the purpose...and it should be far easier for > folks to learn and use consistently than DocBook, for instance. >
Re: Installing LyX 1.3.7 on Windows 98 - DITA detour
David Neeley wrote: I delayed turning to LyX for several years, since for a time it appeared to the casual observer to be somewhat of a dying application. An aborted "Klyx" (kde specific) version, for example, did not appear to be a sign of progress. http://www.lyx.org/about/klyx.php While I am personally fascinated with typography, we are a comparatively dying breed these days, it seems. Yes, it seems that way. LyX seems to be extremely useful for creating indexes, which seems to me to be an often-neglected part of the written information trade. Indexing, though, could become extremely significant in content management--especially since indexing itself is in a major sense the extraction and processing of metadata. Thus, the information chunks represented by topic creation for content management may be best served by creating index references at the time the topics are written and placed in the repository originally. That would seem to permit the locating and employment of the right chunks to meet any arbitrary need. Then, creation of new documents as collections of these chunks would be greatly eased. They say you can't judge a book by its cover but by its index. It reminds me of Explore XY which takes for ages to finish. http://explorexy.com/ CORRELATION – the process of establishing a relationship or connection between two or more subjects. EXPLORATION – the process of traveling in or through an unfamiliar area in order to learn about it. Correlation and exploration. Doing both, in depth, on the Internet was impossible. Not with search engines. Not with data mining. Not with crawlers or bots. Not with anything. Until now. Introducing Explore XY. Explore XY is a Knowledge Discovery Vehicle (KDVTM). A KDV is a radical, patented desktop application that explores all the web’s pages to find any correlation between two subjects. It reads a URL/web page and reports back text and source links that are relevant to connecting the two subjects. Download it for free now! Anyway, pardon my musings tonight...there is much that I am still at sea about in this whole subject. David I enjoyed reading your thoughts and also "Techwriter's toolkits and directions for tomorrow" (long and deep response)" twirlers Bill Hall Any port in a storm :-) Stephen
Re: roman numbers
In the book class you can just use the ERT at the beginning of the document:
\pagenumbering{roman}
and in Chapter 1:
\pagenumbering{arabic}
no preamble needed.
Eric
Francois Engelbrecht wrote:
Dear lyx-users
I have almost completed writing a thesis using the book-type lyx
document. Unfortunately, I'm struggling to insert roman numbers for the
first few introductory pages, followed by usual arabic numbering
starting at Chapter 1. I know the solution has something to do with
inserting latex commands (listed in the users guide extended features)
via the Preamble option. I'm struggling with the details of how to use
the Preamble. Would you please send me some advice?
best wishes,
Francois Engelbrecht
University of Pretoria
South Africa
