Re: agutex layout?

[Martin Vermeer]

On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 04:11:16AM +0200, Uwe Stöhr wrote:
  Gwen Barnes schrieb:
 
  Has someone already made a layout for the new AGU latex class (agutex.cls,
  http://www.agu.org/pubs/helpdesk/)?  Otherwise I will try writing one up.
 
  We provide two layouts, one for AGU++ and one for AGU-dtd. But it seems that 
  agutex.cls is a new LaTeX class. I'm therefore CCing this mail to the author 
  of our existing AGU layout files.
 
  regards Uwe

If it is really different, we need a new layout, yes. Does it replace the
older one(s)?

- Martin

Re: Terminology Change Request for Next Release

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Uwe Stöhr wrote:
 because that's what it is - code for the language TeX.

Except for DocBook classes.

Jürgen

Re: Terminology Change Request for Next Release

[Uwe Stöhr]

Jürgen Spitzmüller schrieb:


because that's what it is - code for the language TeX.


Except for DocBook classes.


It is impossible to make it right for all cases. DocBook is rarely used compared to 
(La)(Xe)(pdfla)TeX. The naming problem is th same as with short title, in some cases it is the short 
tittle but often only the optional argument.


regards Uwe

Re: agutex layout?

[Uwe Stöhr]

Martin Vermeer schrieb:


If it is really different, we need a new layout, yes.


It is as far as I see.


Does it replace the older one(s)?


I don't know and hope that you are Mr. AGU ;-)

regards Uwe

Re: Lyx install fails in MiKTex install

[Ian S. Worthington]

Thanks Uwe.

This is with both the normal (large) and alternative installers.  The normal
small that downloads didn't work as it couldn't connect to the server(?).

I'm wondering now if that might just be the final message. The [NEXT] button
becomes active but after that Lyx outputs a message saying the MiKTeX setup
wizard was not completed. 
 
I had assumed it was a MiKTex install issue but I've now run the MikTex
install by itself, followed by the Lyx install and it all seems ok. 
 
I guess I was just expecting some more positive confirmation that the MikTex
install had completed successfully than the enabling of the [NEXT] button. And
that was compounded by Lyx complaining.

There's maybe something here that needs looking at?
 
i 

-- Original Message --
Received: 04:48 PM COT, 04/11/2009
From: Uwe Stöhr uwesto...@web.de
To: Ian S. Worthington ianworthing...@usa.netCc: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Subject: Re: Lyx install fails in MiKTex install

 Ian S. Worthington schrieb:
 
  I'm having problems installing it on my Windows XP system though.  The
Lyx
  install spawns the MikTex install which runs fine, albeit slowly, up
until: 
   
  fndbmpm: C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application
  Data\MiKTeX\2.7\miktex\config\5c9c2effd97adbeacc8bf220bf73149c.fnd  
   
  at which point it just stops.
 
 What installer have you used?
 This is nevertheless most probably a problem with a MiKTeX server. I would
try to uninstall LyX 
 completely, then also uninstall MiKTeX (the part that is already installed).
Then install MiKTeX 
 manually using the basic MiKTeX installer you find at miktex.org. Finally
reinstall LyX using the 
 complete version of the alternative installer.
 
 I hope this way it works.
 
 (The MiKTeX server is refreshed every week so at least it should work after
easter.)
 
 regards Uwe
 

Re: okular dvi viewer failed in lyx

[rgheck]

Russell Davie wrote:

On Fri, 10 Apr 2009 08:01:54 -0400
rgheck rgh...@bobjweil.com wrote:

  

Russell Davie wrote:


Hi All
I just installed Lyx 1.6.1 and tested out the dvi viewer on intro.lyx.
The default dvi viewer, okular, came up and then crashed.

A Fatal Error Occurred
The application Okular (okular) crashed and caused the signal 11
(SIGSEGV).

Lyx stayed open.

OS: Ubuntu 8.10
default dvi viewer: okular

this happens with kdvi as well.

okular and kdvi works with other dvi I have, but not the dvi lyx makes.

also when changing the dvi viewer preference in 
Tools - Preferences - file formats - DVI 
from xdg-open to xdiv, xdvi opens but presents a blank page.

If the window size of xdvi is re-sized to a fraction smaller, the text appears.

any help appreciated

  
  
This is very strange. Try exporting DVI and then opening it. If that 
works, then something is happening with the call from inside LyX.


rh



exporting dvi fails with error dialog box:

Copying
/tmp/lyx_tmpdir.J18098/lyx_tmpbuf0/0_usr_share_lyx_doc_clipart_footnoteQt4.eps
to [doc/0_usr_share_lyx_doc_clipart_footnoteQt4.eps] failed.

  
OK, this looks like another issue. I think this fails because LyX is 
trying to export to a directory to which you do not have write privileges.



xdvi and evince both open the intro.dvi in /tmp/lyx_tmpdir.J18098/lyx_tmpbuf0, 
but not kdvi or okular

I have found evince is well behaved and accepts the .dvi from lyx.

  

Can you send me a file that fails this way?

rh


cheers

Russell
  

Re: Lyx install fails in MiKTex install

[Uwe Stöhr]

Ian S. Worthington schrieb:


I'm wondering now if that might just be the final message. The [NEXT] button
becomes active but after that Lyx outputs a message saying the MiKTeX setup
wizard was not completed. 


But then you had the info that the MiKTeX installation failed. This can occur due to server problems 
of the MiKTeX mirrors.



I had assumed it was a MiKTex install issue but I've now run the MikTex
install by itself, followed by the Lyx install and it all seems ok. 


Good that it works now for you.


I guess I was just expecting some more positive confirmation that the MikTex
install had completed successfully than the enabling of the [NEXT] button. And
that was compounded by Lyx complaining.


When MiKTeX is installed successfully, your get a n info about this, but in your case the 
installation was not complete.


regards Uwe

Re: Lyx install fails in MiKTex install

[Ian S. Worthington]

Thanks Uwe.

That seems to fix the problem with scrbook.layout, but if I create NewFrom
Template and select docbook_article.lyx, it then fails to find docbook.layout,
even though this again is present in the layouts directory.

I tried a ToolsReconfigure again, but without success.

Any thoughts?

Is it always this difficult to get Lyx up  running?

i

-- Original Message --
Received: 08:30 PM COT, 04/12/2009
From: Uwe Stöhr uwesto...@web.de
To: Ian S. Worthington ianworthing...@usa.net
Subject: Re: Lyx install fails in MiKTex install

 Ian S. Worthington schrieb:
 
  The layout file ... scrbook.layout is not usable... probably... not
  available? even though that file is in the layout directory?
  
  Any suggestions what I need to do to get this installed correctly?
 
 Open an Internet connection, the start LyX by double clicking directly on
the lyx.exe (this way you 
 should see a console window) and reconfigure it using the Tools menu. This
way all packages needed 
 by LyX will be installed. This could take many minutes, he progress is shown
in the console window.
 
 regards Uwe
 

Re: agutex layout?

[Martin Vermeer]

On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 04:11:16AM +0200, Uwe Stöhr wrote:
  Gwen Barnes schrieb:
 
  Has someone already made a layout for the new AGU latex class (agutex.cls,
  http://www.agu.org/pubs/helpdesk/)?  Otherwise I will try writing one up.
 
  We provide two layouts, one for AGU++ and one for AGU-dtd. But it seems that 
  agutex.cls is a new LaTeX class. I'm therefore CCing this mail to the author 
  of our existing AGU layout files.
 
  regards Uwe

If it is really different, we need a new layout, yes. Does it replace the
older one(s)?

- Martin

Re: Terminology Change Request for Next Release

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Uwe Stöhr wrote:
 because that's what it is - code for the language TeX.

Except for DocBook classes.

Jürgen

Re: Terminology Change Request for Next Release

[Uwe Stöhr]

Jürgen Spitzmüller schrieb:


because that's what it is - code for the language TeX.


Except for DocBook classes.


It is impossible to make it right for all cases. DocBook is rarely used compared to 
(La)(Xe)(pdfla)TeX. The naming problem is th same as with short title, in some cases it is the short 
tittle but often only the optional argument.


regards Uwe

Re: agutex layout?

[Uwe Stöhr]

Martin Vermeer schrieb:


If it is really different, we need a new layout, yes.


It is as far as I see.


Does it replace the older one(s)?


I don't know and hope that you are Mr. AGU ;-)

regards Uwe

Re: Lyx install fails in MiKTex install

[Ian S. Worthington]

Thanks Uwe.

This is with both the normal (large) and alternative installers.  The normal
small that downloads didn't work as it couldn't connect to the server(?).

I'm wondering now if that might just be the final message. The [NEXT] button
becomes active but after that Lyx outputs a message saying the MiKTeX setup
wizard was not completed. 
 
I had assumed it was a MiKTex install issue but I've now run the MikTex
install by itself, followed by the Lyx install and it all seems ok. 
 
I guess I was just expecting some more positive confirmation that the MikTex
install had completed successfully than the enabling of the [NEXT] button. And
that was compounded by Lyx complaining.

There's maybe something here that needs looking at?
 
i 

-- Original Message --
Received: 04:48 PM COT, 04/11/2009
From: Uwe Stöhr uwesto...@web.de
To: Ian S. Worthington ianworthing...@usa.netCc: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Subject: Re: Lyx install fails in MiKTex install

 Ian S. Worthington schrieb:
 
  I'm having problems installing it on my Windows XP system though.  The
Lyx
  install spawns the MikTex install which runs fine, albeit slowly, up
until: 
   
  fndbmpm: C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application
  Data\MiKTeX\2.7\miktex\config\5c9c2effd97adbeacc8bf220bf73149c.fnd  
   
  at which point it just stops.
 
 What installer have you used?
 This is nevertheless most probably a problem with a MiKTeX server. I would
try to uninstall LyX 
 completely, then also uninstall MiKTeX (the part that is already installed).
Then install MiKTeX 
 manually using the basic MiKTeX installer you find at miktex.org. Finally
reinstall LyX using the 
 complete version of the alternative installer.
 
 I hope this way it works.
 
 (The MiKTeX server is refreshed every week so at least it should work after
easter.)
 
 regards Uwe
 

Re: okular dvi viewer failed in lyx

[rgheck]

Russell Davie wrote:

On Fri, 10 Apr 2009 08:01:54 -0400
rgheck rgh...@bobjweil.com wrote:

  

Russell Davie wrote:


Hi All
I just installed Lyx 1.6.1 and tested out the dvi viewer on intro.lyx.
The default dvi viewer, okular, came up and then crashed.

A Fatal Error Occurred
The application Okular (okular) crashed and caused the signal 11
(SIGSEGV).

Lyx stayed open.

OS: Ubuntu 8.10
default dvi viewer: okular

this happens with kdvi as well.

okular and kdvi works with other dvi I have, but not the dvi lyx makes.

also when changing the dvi viewer preference in 
Tools - Preferences - file formats - DVI 
from xdg-open to xdiv, xdvi opens but presents a blank page.

If the window size of xdvi is re-sized to a fraction smaller, the text appears.

any help appreciated

  
  
This is very strange. Try exporting DVI and then opening it. If that 
works, then something is happening with the call from inside LyX.


rh



exporting dvi fails with error dialog box:

Copying
/tmp/lyx_tmpdir.J18098/lyx_tmpbuf0/0_usr_share_lyx_doc_clipart_footnoteQt4.eps
to [doc/0_usr_share_lyx_doc_clipart_footnoteQt4.eps] failed.

  
OK, this looks like another issue. I think this fails because LyX is 
trying to export to a directory to which you do not have write privileges.



xdvi and evince both open the intro.dvi in /tmp/lyx_tmpdir.J18098/lyx_tmpbuf0, 
but not kdvi or okular

I have found evince is well behaved and accepts the .dvi from lyx.

  

Can you send me a file that fails this way?

rh


cheers

Russell
  

Re: Lyx install fails in MiKTex install

[Uwe Stöhr]

Ian S. Worthington schrieb:


I'm wondering now if that might just be the final message. The [NEXT] button
becomes active but after that Lyx outputs a message saying the MiKTeX setup
wizard was not completed. 


But then you had the info that the MiKTeX installation failed. This can occur due to server problems 
of the MiKTeX mirrors.



I had assumed it was a MiKTex install issue but I've now run the MikTex
install by itself, followed by the Lyx install and it all seems ok. 


Good that it works now for you.


I guess I was just expecting some more positive confirmation that the MikTex
install had completed successfully than the enabling of the [NEXT] button. And
that was compounded by Lyx complaining.


When MiKTeX is installed successfully, your get a n info about this, but in your case the 
installation was not complete.


regards Uwe

Re: Lyx install fails in MiKTex install

[Ian S. Worthington]

Thanks Uwe.

That seems to fix the problem with scrbook.layout, but if I create NewFrom
Template and select docbook_article.lyx, it then fails to find docbook.layout,
even though this again is present in the layouts directory.

I tried a ToolsReconfigure again, but without success.

Any thoughts?

Is it always this difficult to get Lyx up  running?

i

-- Original Message --
Received: 08:30 PM COT, 04/12/2009
From: Uwe Stöhr uwesto...@web.de
To: Ian S. Worthington ianworthing...@usa.net
Subject: Re: Lyx install fails in MiKTex install

 Ian S. Worthington schrieb:
 
  The layout file ... scrbook.layout is not usable... probably... not
  available? even though that file is in the layout directory?
  
  Any suggestions what I need to do to get this installed correctly?
 
 Open an Internet connection, the start LyX by double clicking directly on
the lyx.exe (this way you 
 should see a console window) and reconfigure it using the Tools menu. This
way all packages needed 
 by LyX will be installed. This could take many minutes, he progress is shown
in the console window.
 
 regards Uwe
 

Re: agutex layout?

[Martin Vermeer]

On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 04:11:16AM +0200, Uwe Stöhr wrote:
>  Gwen Barnes schrieb:
> 
> > Has someone already made a layout for the new AGU latex class (agutex.cls,
> > http://www.agu.org/pubs/helpdesk/)?  Otherwise I will try writing one up.
> 
>  We provide two layouts, one for AGU++ and one for AGU-dtd. But it seems that 
>  agutex.cls is a new LaTeX class. I'm therefore CCing this mail to the author 
>  of our existing AGU layout files.
> 
>  regards Uwe

If it is really different, we need a new layout, yes. Does it replace the
older one(s)?

- Martin

Re: Terminology Change Request for Next Release

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Uwe Stöhr wrote:
> because that's what it is - code for the language TeX.

Except for DocBook classes.

Jürgen

Re: Terminology Change Request for Next Release

[Uwe Stöhr]

Jürgen Spitzmüller schrieb:


because that's what it is - code for the language TeX.


Except for DocBook classes.


It is impossible to make it right for all cases. DocBook is rarely used compared to 
(La)(Xe)(pdfla)TeX. The naming problem is th same as with short title, in some cases it is the short 
tittle but often only the optional argument.


regards Uwe

Re: agutex layout?

[Uwe Stöhr]

Martin Vermeer schrieb:


If it is really different, we need a new layout, yes.


It is as far as I see.


Does it replace the older one(s)?


I don't know and hope that you are Mr. AGU ;-)

regards Uwe

Re: Lyx install fails in MiKTex install

[Ian S. Worthington]

Thanks Uwe.

This is with both the normal (large) and alternative installers.  The normal
small that downloads didn't work as it couldn't connect to the server(?).

I'm wondering now if that might just be the final message. The [NEXT] button
becomes active but after that Lyx outputs a message saying the MiKTeX setup
wizard was not completed. 
 
I had assumed it was a MiKTex install issue but I've now run the MikTex
install by itself, followed by the Lyx install and it all seems ok. 
 
I guess I was just expecting some more positive confirmation that the MikTex
install had completed successfully than the enabling of the [NEXT] button. And
that was compounded by Lyx complaining.

There's maybe something here that needs looking at?
 
i 

-- Original Message --
Received: 04:48 PM COT, 04/11/2009
From: Uwe Stöhr 
To: "Ian S. Worthington" Cc: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Subject: Re: Lyx install fails in MiKTex install

> Ian S. Worthington schrieb:
> 
> > I'm having problems installing it on my Windows XP system though.  The
Lyx
> > install spawns the MikTex install which runs fine, albeit slowly, up
until: 
> >  
> > fndbmpm: C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application
> > Data\MiKTeX\2.7\miktex\config\5c9c2effd97adbeacc8bf220bf73149c.fnd  
> >  
> > at which point it just stops.
> 
> What installer have you used?
> This is nevertheless most probably a problem with a MiKTeX server. I would
try to uninstall LyX 
> completely, then also uninstall MiKTeX (the part that is already installed).
Then install MiKTeX 
> manually using the basic MiKTeX installer you find at miktex.org. Finally
reinstall LyX using the 
> complete version of the alternative installer.
> 
> I hope this way it works.
> 
> (The MiKTeX server is refreshed every week so at least it should work after
easter.)
> 
> regards Uwe
> 

Re: okular dvi viewer failed in lyx

[rgheck]

Russell Davie wrote:

On Fri, 10 Apr 2009 08:01:54 -0400
rgheck  wrote:

  

Russell Davie wrote:


Hi All
I just installed Lyx 1.6.1 and tested out the dvi viewer on intro.lyx.
The default dvi viewer, okular, came up and then crashed.

A Fatal Error Occurred
The application Okular (okular) crashed and caused the signal 11
(SIGSEGV).

Lyx stayed open.

OS: Ubuntu 8.10
default dvi viewer: okular

this happens with kdvi as well.

okular and kdvi works with other dvi I have, but not the dvi lyx makes.

also when changing the dvi viewer preference in 
Tools -> Preferences -> file formats -> DVI 
from xdg-open to xdiv, xdvi opens but presents a blank page.

If the window size of xdvi is re-sized to a fraction smaller, the text appears.

any help appreciated

  
  
This is very strange. Try exporting DVI and then opening it. If that 
works, then something is happening with the call from inside LyX.


rh



exporting dvi fails with error dialog box:

Copying
/tmp/lyx_tmpdir.J18098/lyx_tmpbuf0/0_usr_share_lyx_doc_clipart_footnoteQt4.eps
to [doc/0_usr_share_lyx_doc_clipart_footnoteQt4.eps] failed.

  
OK, this looks like another issue. I think this fails because LyX is 
trying to export to a directory to which you do not have write privileges.



xdvi and evince both open the intro.dvi in /tmp/lyx_tmpdir.J18098/lyx_tmpbuf0, 
but not kdvi or okular

I have found evince is well behaved and accepts the .dvi from lyx.

  

Can you send me a file that fails this way?

rh


cheers

Russell
  

Re: Lyx install fails in MiKTex install

[Uwe Stöhr]

Ian S. Worthington schrieb:


I'm wondering now if that might just be the final message. The [NEXT] button
becomes active but after that Lyx outputs a message saying the MiKTeX setup
wizard was not completed. 


But then you had the info that the MiKTeX installation failed. This can occur due to server problems 
of the MiKTeX mirrors.



I had assumed it was a MiKTex install issue but I've now run the MikTex
install by itself, followed by the Lyx install and it all seems ok. 


Good that it works now for you.


I guess I was just expecting some more positive confirmation that the MikTex
install had completed successfully than the enabling of the [NEXT] button. And
that was compounded by Lyx complaining.


When MiKTeX is installed successfully, your get a n info about this, but in your case the 
installation was not complete.


regards Uwe

Re: Lyx install fails in MiKTex install

[Ian S. Worthington]

Thanks Uwe.

That seems to fix the problem with scrbook.layout, but if I create New>From
Template and select docbook_article.lyx, it then fails to find docbook.layout,
even though this again is present in the layouts directory.

I tried a Tools>Reconfigure again, but without success.

Any thoughts?

Is it always this difficult to get Lyx up & running?

i

-- Original Message --
Received: 08:30 PM COT, 04/12/2009
From: Uwe Stöhr 
To: "Ian S. Worthington" 
Subject: Re: Lyx install fails in MiKTex install

> Ian S. Worthington schrieb:
> 
> > "The layout file ... scrbook.layout is not usable... probably... not
> > available"? even though that file is in the layout directory?
> > 
> > Any suggestions what I need to do to get this installed correctly?
> 
> Open an Internet connection, the start LyX by double clicking directly on
the lyx.exe (this way you 
> should see a console window) and reconfigure it using the Tools menu. This
way all packages needed 
> by LyX will be installed. This could take many minutes, he progress is shown
in the console window.
> 
> regards Uwe
>