Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

[Wolfgang Keller]

 The new (4.0 IIRC) version of LibreOffice had problems on the Mac 

I'm at 4.1.

But I don't have a clue of its math support, since I wouldn't use it
for writing documents anyway.

Sincerely,

Wolfgang

Re: OT: polychromatic fonts

[Wolfgang Keller]

 Today I read about Microsoft planning to unleash polychromatic fonts
 on the world. What do you make of them? As far as I can see, they're
 an ungodly monstrosity:
 http://www.economist.com/blogs/babbage/2013/08/polychromatic-digital-type

What does MS know of typography.

It took them something like 25 years (until Windows Vista?) to
understand that *screen* fonts must be designed specifically for
readability *on screen*.

Sincerely,

Wolfgang

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

[Wolfgang Keller]

 Version 1.0.0 of the software was released in 1999. 
 by the way, in Tübingen, my home town

braggard

And it's hosted at one of my almae matres.

At least the FTP server.

/braggard

;-

Sincerely,

Wolfgang

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

[Wolfgang Keller]

   And I say this as a LyX-only writer for the past 15 years or so.
 
  The first public LyX version was when? Can't have been much longer
  than 10 years ago.
 
That was a typo and should have been 15, as the original message said.

I know Lyrix was implemented first using XForms some time late in the
90s, but it must have been after 1995.

And I didn't really consider it as usable around 1998, when I tried it
the first time. Neither Scientific Workplace, which I tried as well at
that time. I stuck with Framemaker back then.
 
 Way earlier than that. I switched to Lyx after I completed my
 dissertation (which I wrote in Framemaker, on a NeXt cube. Boy am I
 old!).

Topper

That's nothing.

Framemaker? NeXt? Pampered upperclass brat.

Remember Wordstar (don't know which version) on plain MS DOS?

/Topper

;-

Sincerely,

Wolfgang

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

[John Kane]

Kids.!
Remember SGML on the IBM mainframe? 

And did you know that you could use IBM punch cards as postcards?





 From: Wolfgang Keller felip...@gmx.net
To: LyX Users List lyx-users@lists.lyx.org 
Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2013 9:01:08 AM
Subject: Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor
 

   And I say this as a LyX-only writer for the past 15 years or so.
 
  The first public LyX version was when? Can't have been much longer
  than 10 years ago.

That was a typo and should have been 15, as the original message said.

I know Lyrix was implemented first using XForms some time late in the
90s, but it must have been after 1995.

And I didn't really consider it as usable around 1998, when I tried it
the first time. Neither Scientific Workplace, which I tried as well at
that time. I stuck with Framemaker back then.

 Way earlier than that. I switched to Lyx after I completed my
 dissertation (which I wrote in Framemaker, on a NeXt cube. Boy am I
 old!).

Topper

That's nothing.

Framemaker? NeXt? Pampered upperclass brat.

Remember Wordstar (don't know which version) on plain MS DOS?

/Topper

;-

Sincerely,

Wolfgang

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

[David L. Johnson]

On 08/25/2013 09:01 AM, Wolfgang Keller wrote:
That was a typo and should have been 15, as the original message said. 
I know Lyrix was implemented first using XForms some time late in the 
90s, but it must have been after 1995.


Not exactly.  It began either in 95 or earlier, and the original widget 
library was Motif, not Xforms.  I had a linux box with motif (that I had 
purchased) at the time, and would provide binaries with 
statically-linked Motif for those who did not have their own (most linux 
users did not, since Motif was never open-source.  The notif clone was 
not available then, either.


I haven't been able to find 0.7 or older source code for LyX, but 
scanning my directories I found a file written in 0.7, in 1995.  Here is 
the header of that file:


#This file was created by (null) Sat Nov 25 02:07:18 1995
#LyX 0.7 (C) 1995 Matthias Ettrich
\lyxformat 2.10

The original versions did not display math at all, but showed any math 
as ERT.  It still was easier to work with (for me, anyway) than plain 
LaTeX.  Once the displayed math came along, it was much, much better.



Way earlier than that. I switched to Lyx after I completed my
dissertation (which I wrote in Framemaker, on a NeXt cube. Boy am I
old!).
Topper

That's nothing.

Framemaker? NeXt? Pampered upperclass brat.
The NeXt was such a pile.  For the time, great GUI, but the CPU was 
incredibly slow (Motorola 608030 if memory serves), and that r/w optical 
drive!


Remember Wordstar (don't know which version) on plain MS DOS?
Oh, yeah.  Plus various technical-writing programs, some more wysiwyg 
than others, but the printout usually was horrible.



--

David L. Johnson
Department of Mathematics
Lehigh University

install-tl-ubuntu (easily install TeX Live 2013 on Ubuntu)

[Scott Kostyshak]

This program is meant to ease the installation of TeX Live 2013 on
Ubuntu versions 12.04 and later. To use, simply run

sudo ./install-tl-ubuntu

It provides the following features:

- installs TeX Live 2013
- notifies apt so that apt does not try to install the Ubuntu
texlive-* packages as dependencies (e.g. if you do sudo apt-get
install lyx)
- installs (optionally) additional LaTeX files for common journals
that are not included in TeX Live 2013
- links to the folder where Ubuntu installs TeX files so that when you
install Ubuntu packages (e.g. FoilTeXand noweb) with LaTeX files, they
will be available

It can optionally install the TeX dependencies for all of LyX's
templates and examples.

It can be downloaded from here:
https://github.com/scottkosty/install-tl-ubuntu

Best,

Scott

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

[Wolfgang Keller]

 The new (4.0 IIRC) version of LibreOffice had problems on the Mac 

I'm at 4.1.

But I don't have a clue of its math support, since I wouldn't use it
for writing documents anyway.

Sincerely,

Wolfgang

Re: OT: polychromatic fonts

[Wolfgang Keller]

 Today I read about Microsoft planning to unleash polychromatic fonts
 on the world. What do you make of them? As far as I can see, they're
 an ungodly monstrosity:
 http://www.economist.com/blogs/babbage/2013/08/polychromatic-digital-type

What does MS know of typography.

It took them something like 25 years (until Windows Vista?) to
understand that *screen* fonts must be designed specifically for
readability *on screen*.

Sincerely,

Wolfgang

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

[Wolfgang Keller]

 Version 1.0.0 of the software was released in 1999. 
 by the way, in Tübingen, my home town

braggard

And it's hosted at one of my almae matres.

At least the FTP server.

/braggard

;-

Sincerely,

Wolfgang

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

[Wolfgang Keller]

   And I say this as a LyX-only writer for the past 15 years or so.
 
  The first public LyX version was when? Can't have been much longer
  than 10 years ago.
 
That was a typo and should have been 15, as the original message said.

I know Lyrix was implemented first using XForms some time late in the
90s, but it must have been after 1995.

And I didn't really consider it as usable around 1998, when I tried it
the first time. Neither Scientific Workplace, which I tried as well at
that time. I stuck with Framemaker back then.
 
 Way earlier than that. I switched to Lyx after I completed my
 dissertation (which I wrote in Framemaker, on a NeXt cube. Boy am I
 old!).

Topper

That's nothing.

Framemaker? NeXt? Pampered upperclass brat.

Remember Wordstar (don't know which version) on plain MS DOS?

/Topper

;-

Sincerely,

Wolfgang

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

[John Kane]

Kids.!
Remember SGML on the IBM mainframe? 

And did you know that you could use IBM punch cards as postcards?





 From: Wolfgang Keller felip...@gmx.net
To: LyX Users List lyx-users@lists.lyx.org 
Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2013 9:01:08 AM
Subject: Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor
 

   And I say this as a LyX-only writer for the past 15 years or so.
 
  The first public LyX version was when? Can't have been much longer
  than 10 years ago.

That was a typo and should have been 15, as the original message said.

I know Lyrix was implemented first using XForms some time late in the
90s, but it must have been after 1995.

And I didn't really consider it as usable around 1998, when I tried it
the first time. Neither Scientific Workplace, which I tried as well at
that time. I stuck with Framemaker back then.

 Way earlier than that. I switched to Lyx after I completed my
 dissertation (which I wrote in Framemaker, on a NeXt cube. Boy am I
 old!).

Topper

That's nothing.

Framemaker? NeXt? Pampered upperclass brat.

Remember Wordstar (don't know which version) on plain MS DOS?

/Topper

;-

Sincerely,

Wolfgang

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

[David L. Johnson]

On 08/25/2013 09:01 AM, Wolfgang Keller wrote:
That was a typo and should have been 15, as the original message said. 
I know Lyrix was implemented first using XForms some time late in the 
90s, but it must have been after 1995.


Not exactly.  It began either in 95 or earlier, and the original widget 
library was Motif, not Xforms.  I had a linux box with motif (that I had 
purchased) at the time, and would provide binaries with 
statically-linked Motif for those who did not have their own (most linux 
users did not, since Motif was never open-source.  The notif clone was 
not available then, either.


I haven't been able to find 0.7 or older source code for LyX, but 
scanning my directories I found a file written in 0.7, in 1995.  Here is 
the header of that file:


#This file was created by (null) Sat Nov 25 02:07:18 1995
#LyX 0.7 (C) 1995 Matthias Ettrich
\lyxformat 2.10

The original versions did not display math at all, but showed any math 
as ERT.  It still was easier to work with (for me, anyway) than plain 
LaTeX.  Once the displayed math came along, it was much, much better.



Way earlier than that. I switched to Lyx after I completed my
dissertation (which I wrote in Framemaker, on a NeXt cube. Boy am I
old!).
Topper

That's nothing.

Framemaker? NeXt? Pampered upperclass brat.
The NeXt was such a pile.  For the time, great GUI, but the CPU was 
incredibly slow (Motorola 608030 if memory serves), and that r/w optical 
drive!


Remember Wordstar (don't know which version) on plain MS DOS?
Oh, yeah.  Plus various technical-writing programs, some more wysiwyg 
than others, but the printout usually was horrible.



--

David L. Johnson
Department of Mathematics
Lehigh University

install-tl-ubuntu (easily install TeX Live 2013 on Ubuntu)

[Scott Kostyshak]

This program is meant to ease the installation of TeX Live 2013 on
Ubuntu versions 12.04 and later. To use, simply run

sudo ./install-tl-ubuntu

It provides the following features:

- installs TeX Live 2013
- notifies apt so that apt does not try to install the Ubuntu
texlive-* packages as dependencies (e.g. if you do sudo apt-get
install lyx)
- installs (optionally) additional LaTeX files for common journals
that are not included in TeX Live 2013
- links to the folder where Ubuntu installs TeX files so that when you
install Ubuntu packages (e.g. FoilTeXand noweb) with LaTeX files, they
will be available

It can optionally install the TeX dependencies for all of LyX's
templates and examples.

It can be downloaded from here:
https://github.com/scottkosty/install-tl-ubuntu

Best,

Scott

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

[Wolfgang Keller]

> The new (4.0 IIRC) version of LibreOffice had problems on the Mac 

I'm at 4.1.

But I don't have a clue of its math support, since I wouldn't use it
for writing documents anyway.

Sincerely,

Wolfgang

Re: OT: polychromatic fonts

[Wolfgang Keller]

> Today I read about Microsoft planning to unleash polychromatic fonts
> on the world. What do you make of them? As far as I can see, they're
> an ungodly monstrosity:
> http://www.economist.com/blogs/babbage/2013/08/polychromatic-digital-type

What does MS know of typography.

It took them something like 25 years (until Windows "Vista"?) to
understand that *screen* fonts must be designed specifically for
readability *on screen*.

Sincerely,

Wolfgang

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

[Wolfgang Keller]

> Version 1.0.0 of the software was released in 1999. 
> by the way, in Tübingen, my home town



And it's hosted at one of my almae matres.

At least the FTP server.



>;->

Sincerely,

Wolfgang

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

[Wolfgang Keller]

> > > And I say this as a LyX-only writer for the past 15 years or so.
> >
> > The first public LyX version was when? Can't have been much longer
> > than 10 years ago.
 
That was a typo and should have been 15, as the original message said.

I know Lyrix was implemented first using XForms some time late in the
90s, but it must have been after 1995.

And I didn't really consider it as usable around 1998, when I tried it
the first time. Neither Scientific Workplace, which I tried as well at
that time. I stuck with Framemaker back then.
 
> Way earlier than that. I switched to Lyx after I completed my
> dissertation (which I wrote in Framemaker, on a NeXt cube. Boy am I
> old!).



That's nothing.

Framemaker? NeXt? Pampered upperclass brat.

Remember Wordstar (don't know which version) on plain MS DOS?



>;->

Sincerely,

Wolfgang

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

[John Kane]

Kids.!
Remember SGML on the IBM mainframe? 

And did you know that you could use IBM punch cards as postcards?





 From: Wolfgang Keller 
To: LyX Users List  
Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2013 9:01:08 AM
Subject: Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor
 

> > > And I say this as a LyX-only writer for the past 15 years or so.
> >
> > The first public LyX version was when? Can't have been much longer
> > than 10 years ago.

That was a typo and should have been 15, as the original message said.

I know Lyrix was implemented first using XForms some time late in the
90s, but it must have been after 1995.

And I didn't really consider it as usable around 1998, when I tried it
the first time. Neither Scientific Workplace, which I tried as well at
that time. I stuck with Framemaker back then.

> Way earlier than that. I switched to Lyx after I completed my
> dissertation (which I wrote in Framemaker, on a NeXt cube. Boy am I
> old!).



That's nothing.

Framemaker? NeXt? Pampered upperclass brat.

Remember Wordstar (don't know which version) on plain MS DOS?



>;->

Sincerely,

Wolfgang

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

[David L. Johnson]

On 08/25/2013 09:01 AM, Wolfgang Keller wrote:
That was a typo and should have been 15, as the original message said. 
I know Lyrix was implemented first using XForms some time late in the 
90s, but it must have been after 1995.


Not exactly.  It began either in 95 or earlier, and the original widget 
library was Motif, not Xforms.  I had a linux box with motif (that I had 
purchased) at the time, and would provide binaries with 
statically-linked Motif for those who did not have their own (most linux 
users did not, since Motif was never open-source.  The "notif" clone was 
not available then, either.


I haven't been able to find 0.7 or older source code for LyX, but 
scanning my directories I found a file written in 0.7, in 1995.  Here is 
the header of that file:


#This file was created by <(null)> Sat Nov 25 02:07:18 1995
#LyX 0.7 (C) 1995 Matthias Ettrich
\lyxformat 2.10

The original versions did not display math at all, but showed any math 
as ERT.  It still was easier to work with (for me, anyway) than plain 
LaTeX.  Once the displayed math came along, it was much, much better.



Way earlier than that. I switched to Lyx after I completed my
dissertation (which I wrote in Framemaker, on a NeXt cube. Boy am I
old!).


That's nothing.

Framemaker? NeXt? Pampered upperclass brat.
The NeXt was such a pile.  For the time, great GUI, but the CPU was 
incredibly slow (Motorola 608030 if memory serves), and that r/w optical 
drive!


Remember Wordstar (don't know which version) on plain MS DOS?
Oh, yeah.  Plus various technical-writing programs, some more wysiwyg 
than others, but the printout usually was horrible.



--

David L. Johnson
Department of Mathematics
Lehigh University

install-tl-ubuntu (easily install TeX Live 2013 on Ubuntu)

[Scott Kostyshak]

This program is meant to ease the installation of TeX Live 2013 on
Ubuntu versions 12.04 and later. To use, simply run

sudo ./install-tl-ubuntu

It provides the following features:

- installs TeX Live 2013
- notifies apt so that apt does not try to install the Ubuntu
texlive-* packages as dependencies (e.g. if you do sudo apt-get
install lyx)
- installs (optionally) additional LaTeX files for common journals
that are not included in TeX Live 2013
- links to the folder where Ubuntu installs TeX files so that when you
install Ubuntu packages (e.g. FoilTeXand noweb) with LaTeX files, they
will be available

It can optionally install the TeX dependencies for all of LyX's
templates and examples.

It can be downloaded from here:
https://github.com/scottkosty/install-tl-ubuntu

Best,

Scott