Re: esint.sty in RedHat/Centos 7. Where? Why omitted?

2015-03-25 Thread Paul Johnson 
On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 6:53 AM, José Matos jama...@lyx.org wrote:
 On Saturday 21 March 2015 22:38:09 Paul Johnson wrote:
 Can somebody explain the problems surrounding packaging of esint.sty?

 Note that I am writing this from Fedora, so I am not sure that all applies to 
 RHEL/CentOS (although I suspect it does).

 Since the tex installed comes from texlive that means that all the (la)tex 
 packages have been split into its package.

 If you want to install something like the previous mega packages, there are 
 several schemes available:

 $ yum list texlive-scheme*
 .
 texlive-scheme-basic.noarch
 texlive-scheme-context.noarch
 texlive-scheme-full.noarch
 texlive-scheme-gust.noarch
 texlive-scheme-medium.noarch
 texlive-scheme-minimal.noarch
 texlive-scheme-small.noarch
 texlive-scheme-tetex.noarch
 texlive-scheme-xml.noarch

 If you install texlive-scheme full you will get all the packages. Medium 
 should be a nice compromise.

 On a fresh install of RHEL 7, I find LyX 2.1 works well enough, except
 the old problem about missing esint.sty re-appears. Any documents with
 integrals won't compile because esint.sty is missing.

 Could you try:

 # yum install tex(esint.sty)

 And see if this works?


Hello, Jose.

Am I typing this incorrectly?

# yum install tex(esint.sty)
bash: syntax error near unexpected token `('

I searched like this:

# yum provides esint.sty
Loaded plugins: fastestmirror, langpacks
base
  | 3.6 kB  00:00:00
epel/x86_64/metalink
  |  15 kB  00:00:00
epel
  | 4.4 kB  00:00:00
extras
  | 3.4 kB  00:00:00
pjku
  | 2.9 kB  00:00:00
updates
  | 3.4 kB  00:00:00
epel/x86_64/primary_db
  | 4.0 MB  00:00:00
(1/2): epel/x86_64/updateinfo
  | 317 kB  00:00:00
(2/2): epel/x86_64/pkgtags
  | 1.4 MB  00:00:00
Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile
 * base: mirror.trouble-free.net
 * epel: mirror.oss.ou.edu
 * extras: centos-mirror.jchost.net
 * updates: mirrors.centarra.com
epel/x86_64/filelists_db
  | 6.1 MB  00:00:00
updates/7/x86_64/filelists_db
  | 3.9 MB  00:00:00
No matches found

There is a separate package for this in Fedora, texlive-esint, but not
in any EL7 repos I could find.

http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/rpminfo?rpmID=5907414

I'd like to build my own version of that RPM, but apparently I have to
rebuild the whole texlive package for Fedora in order to do that.  I
made the mistake once of doing that in the RHEL 5 era, may do again.

I'll keep trying, will let you know

pj



 Note that this will work for all other .sty file.

 In Ubuntu systems there is no similar problem.  I find esint.sty is
 included in a package texlive-latex-extra.  I'm not finding it in
 similar on RedHat, but I have to admit that their new improved
 package management system is somewhat unhelpful.

 I searched long enough to see there is some peculiar history with
 packaging of esint.sty. I DO find the Fedora package in rpmfind.net
 texlive-esint-  I will rebuild that on the EL7 systems if I have
 to. But I can't see why this is necessary at all.

 pj

 I guess that there is a missing requirement for texlive packages in 
 Fedora/EPEL, if that happens again please report it here or on Redhat 
 bugzilla.

 That type of issues in on my TODO list to determine a minimum list of 
 dependencies for the lyx rpms on Fedora/EPEL.

 Regards,
 --
 José Abílio



-- 
Paul E. Johnson
Professor, Political Science  Assoc. Director
1541 Lilac Lane, Room 504  Center for Research Methods
University of Kansas University of Kansas
http://pj.freefaculty.org   http://quant.ku.edu

graphical float placements

2015-03-25 Thread fmsal...@virginmedia.com 

Hullo,
Using distribution openSUSE 13.2 but not the rpm's for tex and 
lyx.  TexLive 2014 installed and lyx 2.1.2 compiled locally..


I am writing a document of about 50 pages with many pages of 
mathematics using koma-script report.  I keep experiencing erratic 
behaviour with the placement of graphical floats. The graphics are png 
files.


At times some greying out of options for the placement and sizing 
of the plots occurs and at other times there are no problems at all.   
Also apparently an acceptable setting of alternatives are ignored!   I 
have not been able to observe any common factors in what I have done.


At other times the floats are located within the text as intended.  
Then for no apparent reason they all appear at the end of the document.  
Having accepted that I should continue preparation and leave the float 
problem to be resolved later, I continued work and left the floats 
alone. In adding more text, some before and some after the first float 
location in the lyx document, all the floats suddenly reappeared at 
their intended positions.


Has anyone experienced anything similar.  I feel I should add a bug 
report but have no idea what to describe!


Regards
Frank Salter

Re: graphical float placements

2015-03-25 Thread Stephen Buonopane 

On Mar 25, 2015, at 3:07 PM, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:

 
 
 Am 25.03.2015 um 19:49 schrieb fmsal...@virginmedia.com:
 Hullo,
Using distribution openSUSE 13.2 but not the rpm's for tex and lyx.  
 TexLive 2014 installed and lyx 2.1.2 compiled locally..
 
I am writing a document of about 50 pages with many pages of mathematics 
 using koma-script report.  I keep experiencing erratic behaviour with the 
 placement of graphical floats. The graphics are png files.
 
At times some greying out of options for the placement and sizing of the 
 plots occurs and at other times there are no problems at all.   Also 
 apparently an acceptable setting of alternatives are ignored!   I have not 
 been able to observe any common factors in what I have done.
 
At other times the floats are located within the text as intended.  Then 
 for no apparent reason they all appear at the end of the document.  Having 
 accepted that I should continue preparation and leave the float problem to 
 be resolved later, I continued work and left the floats alone. In adding 
 more text, some before and some after the first float location in the lyx 
 document, all the floats suddenly reappeared at their intended positions.
 
Has anyone experienced anything similar.  I feel I should add a bug 
 report but have no idea what to describe!
 
 Regards
 Frank Salter
 
 This is the result of adding more text. Latex tries to fit the floats at 
 reasonable places, and if there is not enough text, it accumulates at the end 
 of the document.
 Wolfgang

If you want full manual control of float placement, go to
Edit - Float Settings - Here Definitely
There are other options there as well.

Re: graphical float placements

2015-03-25 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann 



Am 25.03.2015 um 19:49 schrieb fmsal...@virginmedia.com:

Hullo,
Using distribution openSUSE 13.2 but not the rpm's for tex and 
lyx.  TexLive 2014 installed and lyx 2.1.2 compiled locally..


I am writing a document of about 50 pages with many pages of 
mathematics using koma-script report.  I keep experiencing erratic 
behaviour with the placement of graphical floats. The graphics are png 
files.


At times some greying out of options for the placement and sizing 
of the plots occurs and at other times there are no problems at all.   
Also apparently an acceptable setting of alternatives are ignored!   I 
have not been able to observe any common factors in what I have done.


At other times the floats are located within the text as 
intended.  Then for no apparent reason they all appear at the end of 
the document.  Having accepted that I should continue preparation and 
leave the float problem to be resolved later, I continued work and 
left the floats alone. In adding more text, some before and some after 
the first float location in the lyx document, all the floats suddenly 
reappeared at their intended positions.


Has anyone experienced anything similar.  I feel I should add a 
bug report but have no idea what to describe!


Regards
Frank Salter

This is the result of adding more text. Latex tries to fit the floats at 
reasonable places, and if there is not enough text, it accumulates at 
the end of the document.

Wolfgang

Re: graphical float placements

2015-03-25 Thread fmsal...@virginmedia.com 



Am 25.03.2015 um 19:49 schrieb fmsal...@virginmedia.com:
On 25/03/15 18:49, fmsal...@virginmedia.com wrote:

Hullo,
Using distribution openSUSE 13.2 but not the rpm's for tex and 
lyx.  TexLive 2014 installed and lyx 2.1.2 compiled locally..


I am writing a document of about 50 pages with many pages of 
mathematics using koma-script report.  I keep experiencing erratic 
behaviour with the placement of graphical floats. The graphics are png 
files.


At times some greying out of options for the placement and sizing 
of the plots occurs and at other times there are no problems at all.   
Also apparently an acceptable setting of alternatives are ignored!   I 
have not been able to observe any common factors in what I have done.


At other times the floats are located within the text as 
intended.  Then for no apparent reason they all appear at the end of 
the document.  Having accepted that I should continue preparation and 
leave the float problem to be resolved later, I continued work and 
left the floats alone. In adding more text, some before and some after 
the first float location in the lyx document, all the floats suddenly 
reappeared at their intended positions.


Has anyone experienced anything similar.  I feel I should add a 
bug report but have no idea what to describe!


Regards
Frank Salter

This is the result of adding more text. Latex tries to fit the floats at 
reasonable places, and if there is not enough text, it accumulates at 
the end of the document.

Wolfgang

The above was copied from the archive page as I do not recivie emails on 
the list but monitort its content...   Indentation has disappeared!


Thanks for your suggestion but I appear not to have explained in 
sufficient detail the nature of the problem.


The text I was entering was on page 41 of 54.  The float had 
appeared in the final document towards the end even though I had tried 
to locate of the document in the region of the text discussing the content.
I work with three monitors and keep two kpdf outputs on one monitor 
and have lyx on another. Any changes are picked up automatically as I 
check the changes made.  There are 5 floats in total, four are at other 
places in the text.  All the floats had been located at the end and 
appeared to be stuck there.  The addition of further text produced the 
result that all the floats relocated with no attempt having been made to 
relocate them.  They had originally been interspersed within the text. 
They were suddenly transferred to the end and now they have returned.  
The floats are sized and dispersed in such a manner that they should be 
able to be located within a page with some text.
 This seems to exclude the possibility of their locations being 
controlled by the mechanism you have described.


Regards
Frank Salter

Re: graphical float placements

2015-03-25 Thread fmsal...@virginmedia.com 

Stephan Buonopane wrote:

|  If you want full manual control of float placement, go to
|  Edit - Float Settings - Here Definitely
|  There are other options there as well.

 Thanks for your help but I have examined the manual and the 
experiences I am trying to discuss do not match the description there.


I believe that the movement to the end and then after many editing 
actions, the return to the locations I had set previously, using the 
graphical interface provided,  demonstrates the problem experienced.  I 
had also tried to set the location in the manner you suggested but this 
had also failed to produce the intended effect.


Regards
 Frank Salter

Re: esint.sty in RedHat/Centos 7. Where? Why omitted?

2015-03-25 Thread Robert Susmilch 
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On 03/25/2015 12:51 PM, Paul Johnson wrote:
 On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 6:53 AM, José Matos jama...@lyx.org
 wrote:
 On Saturday 21 March 2015 22:38:09 Paul Johnson wrote:
 Can somebody explain the problems surrounding packaging of
 esint.sty?
 
 Note that I am writing this from Fedora, so I am not sure that
 all applies to RHEL/CentOS (although I suspect it does).
 
 Since the tex installed comes from texlive that means that all
 the (la)tex packages have been split into its package.
 
 If you want to install something like the previous mega packages,
 there are several schemes available:
 
 $ yum list texlive-scheme* . texlive-scheme-basic.noarch 
 texlive-scheme-context.noarch texlive-scheme-full.noarch 
 texlive-scheme-gust.noarch texlive-scheme-medium.noarch 
 texlive-scheme-minimal.noarch texlive-scheme-small.noarch 
 texlive-scheme-tetex.noarch texlive-scheme-xml.noarch
 
 If you install texlive-scheme full you will get all the packages.
 Medium should be a nice compromise.
 
 On a fresh install of RHEL 7, I find LyX 2.1 works well enough,
 except the old problem about missing esint.sty re-appears. Any
 documents with integrals won't compile because esint.sty is
 missing.
 
 Could you try:
 
 # yum install tex(esint.sty)
 
 And see if this works?
 
 
 Hello, Jose.
 
 Am I typing this incorrectly?
 
 # yum install tex(esint.sty) bash: syntax error near unexpected
 token `('
 
 I searched like this:
 
 # yum provides esint.sty Loaded plugins: fastestmirror, langpacks 
 base | 3.6 kB  00:00:00 epel/x86_64/metalink |  15 kB  00:00:00 
 epel | 4.4 kB  00:00:00 extras | 3.4 kB  00:00:00 pjku | 2.9 kB
 00:00:00 updates | 3.4 kB  00:00:00 epel/x86_64/primary_db | 4.0 MB
 00:00:00 (1/2): epel/x86_64/updateinfo | 317 kB  00:00:00 (2/2):
 epel/x86_64/pkgtags | 1.4 MB  00:00:00 Loading mirror speeds from
 cached hostfile * base: mirror.trouble-free.net * epel:
 mirror.oss.ou.edu * extras: centos-mirror.jchost.net * updates:
 mirrors.centarra.com epel/x86_64/filelists_db | 6.1 MB  00:00:00 
 updates/7/x86_64/filelists_db | 3.9 MB  00:00:00 No matches found
 
 There is a separate package for this in Fedora, texlive-esint, but
 not in any EL7 repos I could find.
 
 http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/rpminfo?rpmID=5907414
 
 I'd like to build my own version of that RPM, but apparently I have
 to rebuild the whole texlive package for Fedora in order to do
 that.  I made the mistake once of doing that in the RHEL 5 era, may
 do again.
 
 I'll keep trying, will let you know
 
 pj
 
 
 
 Note that this will work for all other .sty file.
 
 In Ubuntu systems there is no similar problem.  I find
 esint.sty is included in a package texlive-latex-extra.  I'm
 not finding it in similar on RedHat, but I have to admit that
 their new improved package management system is somewhat
 unhelpful.
 
 I searched long enough to see there is some peculiar history
 with packaging of esint.sty. I DO find the Fedora package in
 rpmfind.net texlive-esint-  I will rebuild that on the
 EL7 systems if I have to. But I can't see why this is necessary
 at all.
 
 pj
 
 I guess that there is a missing requirement for texlive packages
 in Fedora/EPEL, if that happens again please report it here or on
 Redhat bugzilla.
 
 That type of issues in on my TODO list to determine a minimum
 list of dependencies for the lyx rpms on Fedora/EPEL.
 
 Regards, -- José Abílio
 
 
 

# yum whatprovides */esint.sty

Loaded plugins: langpacks
4:texlive-esint-svn15878.1.1-1.1.fc21.noarch : Extended set of
integrals for Computer Modern
Repo: fedora
Matched from:
Filename: /usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/esint/esint.sty

4:texlive-esint-svn15878.1.1-1.1.fc21.noarch : Extended set of
integrals for Computer Modern
Repo: @fedora
Matched from:
Filename: /usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/esint/esint.sty

- -- 
Respectfully,

Robert Susmilch
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Re: esint.sty in RedHat/Centos 7. Where? Why omitted?

2015-03-25 Thread Paul Johnson 
On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 6:53 AM, José Matos jama...@lyx.org wrote:
 On Saturday 21 March 2015 22:38:09 Paul Johnson wrote:
 Can somebody explain the problems surrounding packaging of esint.sty?

 Note that I am writing this from Fedora, so I am not sure that all applies to 
 RHEL/CentOS (although I suspect it does).

 Since the tex installed comes from texlive that means that all the (la)tex 
 packages have been split into its package.

 If you want to install something like the previous mega packages, there are 
 several schemes available:

 $ yum list texlive-scheme*
 .
 texlive-scheme-basic.noarch
 texlive-scheme-context.noarch
 texlive-scheme-full.noarch
 texlive-scheme-gust.noarch
 texlive-scheme-medium.noarch
 texlive-scheme-minimal.noarch
 texlive-scheme-small.noarch
 texlive-scheme-tetex.noarch
 texlive-scheme-xml.noarch

 If you install texlive-scheme full you will get all the packages. Medium 
 should be a nice compromise.

 On a fresh install of RHEL 7, I find LyX 2.1 works well enough, except
 the old problem about missing esint.sty re-appears. Any documents with
 integrals won't compile because esint.sty is missing.

 Could you try:

 # yum install tex(esint.sty)

 And see if this works?


Hello, Jose.

Am I typing this incorrectly?

# yum install tex(esint.sty)
bash: syntax error near unexpected token `('

I searched like this:

# yum provides esint.sty
Loaded plugins: fastestmirror, langpacks
base
  | 3.6 kB  00:00:00
epel/x86_64/metalink
  |  15 kB  00:00:00
epel
  | 4.4 kB  00:00:00
extras
  | 3.4 kB  00:00:00
pjku
  | 2.9 kB  00:00:00
updates
  | 3.4 kB  00:00:00
epel/x86_64/primary_db
  | 4.0 MB  00:00:00
(1/2): epel/x86_64/updateinfo
  | 317 kB  00:00:00
(2/2): epel/x86_64/pkgtags
  | 1.4 MB  00:00:00
Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile
 * base: mirror.trouble-free.net
 * epel: mirror.oss.ou.edu
 * extras: centos-mirror.jchost.net
 * updates: mirrors.centarra.com
epel/x86_64/filelists_db
  | 6.1 MB  00:00:00
updates/7/x86_64/filelists_db
  | 3.9 MB  00:00:00
No matches found

There is a separate package for this in Fedora, texlive-esint, but not
in any EL7 repos I could find.

http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/rpminfo?rpmID=5907414

I'd like to build my own version of that RPM, but apparently I have to
rebuild the whole texlive package for Fedora in order to do that.  I
made the mistake once of doing that in the RHEL 5 era, may do again.

I'll keep trying, will let you know

pj



 Note that this will work for all other .sty file.

 In Ubuntu systems there is no similar problem.  I find esint.sty is
 included in a package texlive-latex-extra.  I'm not finding it in
 similar on RedHat, but I have to admit that their new improved
 package management system is somewhat unhelpful.

 I searched long enough to see there is some peculiar history with
 packaging of esint.sty. I DO find the Fedora package in rpmfind.net
 texlive-esint-  I will rebuild that on the EL7 systems if I have
 to. But I can't see why this is necessary at all.

 pj

 I guess that there is a missing requirement for texlive packages in 
 Fedora/EPEL, if that happens again please report it here or on Redhat 
 bugzilla.

 That type of issues in on my TODO list to determine a minimum list of 
 dependencies for the lyx rpms on Fedora/EPEL.

 Regards,
 --
 José Abílio



-- 
Paul E. Johnson
Professor, Political Science  Assoc. Director
1541 Lilac Lane, Room 504  Center for Research Methods
University of Kansas University of Kansas
http://pj.freefaculty.org   http://quant.ku.edu

graphical float placements

2015-03-25 Thread fmsal...@virginmedia.com 

Hullo,
Using distribution openSUSE 13.2 but not the rpm's for tex and 
lyx.  TexLive 2014 installed and lyx 2.1.2 compiled locally..


I am writing a document of about 50 pages with many pages of 
mathematics using koma-script report.  I keep experiencing erratic 
behaviour with the placement of graphical floats. The graphics are png 
files.


At times some greying out of options for the placement and sizing 
of the plots occurs and at other times there are no problems at all.   
Also apparently an acceptable setting of alternatives are ignored!   I 
have not been able to observe any common factors in what I have done.


At other times the floats are located within the text as intended.  
Then for no apparent reason they all appear at the end of the document.  
Having accepted that I should continue preparation and leave the float 
problem to be resolved later, I continued work and left the floats 
alone. In adding more text, some before and some after the first float 
location in the lyx document, all the floats suddenly reappeared at 
their intended positions.


Has anyone experienced anything similar.  I feel I should add a bug 
report but have no idea what to describe!


Regards
Frank Salter

Re: graphical float placements

2015-03-25 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann 



Am 25.03.2015 um 19:49 schrieb fmsal...@virginmedia.com:

Hullo,
Using distribution openSUSE 13.2 but not the rpm's for tex and 
lyx.  TexLive 2014 installed and lyx 2.1.2 compiled locally..


I am writing a document of about 50 pages with many pages of 
mathematics using koma-script report.  I keep experiencing erratic 
behaviour with the placement of graphical floats. The graphics are png 
files.


At times some greying out of options for the placement and sizing 
of the plots occurs and at other times there are no problems at all.   
Also apparently an acceptable setting of alternatives are ignored!   I 
have not been able to observe any common factors in what I have done.


At other times the floats are located within the text as 
intended.  Then for no apparent reason they all appear at the end of 
the document.  Having accepted that I should continue preparation and 
leave the float problem to be resolved later, I continued work and 
left the floats alone. In adding more text, some before and some after 
the first float location in the lyx document, all the floats suddenly 
reappeared at their intended positions.


Has anyone experienced anything similar.  I feel I should add a 
bug report but have no idea what to describe!


Regards
Frank Salter

This is the result of adding more text. Latex tries to fit the floats at 
reasonable places, and if there is not enough text, it accumulates at 
the end of the document.

Wolfgang

Re: graphical float placements

2015-03-25 Thread Stephen Buonopane 

On Mar 25, 2015, at 3:07 PM, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:

 
 
 Am 25.03.2015 um 19:49 schrieb fmsal...@virginmedia.com:
 Hullo,
Using distribution openSUSE 13.2 but not the rpm's for tex and lyx.  
 TexLive 2014 installed and lyx 2.1.2 compiled locally..
 
I am writing a document of about 50 pages with many pages of mathematics 
 using koma-script report.  I keep experiencing erratic behaviour with the 
 placement of graphical floats. The graphics are png files.
 
At times some greying out of options for the placement and sizing of the 
 plots occurs and at other times there are no problems at all.   Also 
 apparently an acceptable setting of alternatives are ignored!   I have not 
 been able to observe any common factors in what I have done.
 
At other times the floats are located within the text as intended.  Then 
 for no apparent reason they all appear at the end of the document.  Having 
 accepted that I should continue preparation and leave the float problem to 
 be resolved later, I continued work and left the floats alone. In adding 
 more text, some before and some after the first float location in the lyx 
 document, all the floats suddenly reappeared at their intended positions.
 
Has anyone experienced anything similar.  I feel I should add a bug 
 report but have no idea what to describe!
 
 Regards
 Frank Salter
 
 This is the result of adding more text. Latex tries to fit the floats at 
 reasonable places, and if there is not enough text, it accumulates at the end 
 of the document.
 Wolfgang

If you want full manual control of float placement, go to
Edit - Float Settings - Here Definitely
There are other options there as well.

Re: graphical float placements

2015-03-25 Thread fmsal...@virginmedia.com 



Am 25.03.2015 um 19:49 schrieb fmsal...@virginmedia.com:
On 25/03/15 18:49, fmsal...@virginmedia.com wrote:

Hullo,
Using distribution openSUSE 13.2 but not the rpm's for tex and 
lyx.  TexLive 2014 installed and lyx 2.1.2 compiled locally..


I am writing a document of about 50 pages with many pages of 
mathematics using koma-script report.  I keep experiencing erratic 
behaviour with the placement of graphical floats. The graphics are png 
files.


At times some greying out of options for the placement and sizing 
of the plots occurs and at other times there are no problems at all.   
Also apparently an acceptable setting of alternatives are ignored!   I 
have not been able to observe any common factors in what I have done.


At other times the floats are located within the text as 
intended.  Then for no apparent reason they all appear at the end of 
the document.  Having accepted that I should continue preparation and 
leave the float problem to be resolved later, I continued work and 
left the floats alone. In adding more text, some before and some after 
the first float location in the lyx document, all the floats suddenly 
reappeared at their intended positions.


Has anyone experienced anything similar.  I feel I should add a 
bug report but have no idea what to describe!


Regards
Frank Salter

This is the result of adding more text. Latex tries to fit the floats at 
reasonable places, and if there is not enough text, it accumulates at 
the end of the document.

Wolfgang

The above was copied from the archive page as I do not recivie emails on 
the list but monitort its content...   Indentation has disappeared!


Thanks for your suggestion but I appear not to have explained in 
sufficient detail the nature of the problem.


The text I was entering was on page 41 of 54.  The float had 
appeared in the final document towards the end even though I had tried 
to locate of the document in the region of the text discussing the content.
I work with three monitors and keep two kpdf outputs on one monitor 
and have lyx on another. Any changes are picked up automatically as I 
check the changes made.  There are 5 floats in total, four are at other 
places in the text.  All the floats had been located at the end and 
appeared to be stuck there.  The addition of further text produced the 
result that all the floats relocated with no attempt having been made to 
relocate them.  They had originally been interspersed within the text. 
They were suddenly transferred to the end and now they have returned.  
The floats are sized and dispersed in such a manner that they should be 
able to be located within a page with some text.
 This seems to exclude the possibility of their locations being 
controlled by the mechanism you have described.


Regards
Frank Salter

Re: graphical float placements

2015-03-25 Thread fmsal...@virginmedia.com 

Stephan Buonopane wrote:

|  If you want full manual control of float placement, go to
|  Edit - Float Settings - Here Definitely
|  There are other options there as well.

 Thanks for your help but I have examined the manual and the 
experiences I am trying to discuss do not match the description there.


I believe that the movement to the end and then after many editing 
actions, the return to the locations I had set previously, using the 
graphical interface provided,  demonstrates the problem experienced.  I 
had also tried to set the location in the manner you suggested but this 
had also failed to produce the intended effect.


Regards
 Frank Salter

Re: esint.sty in RedHat/Centos 7. Where? Why omitted?

2015-03-25 Thread Robert Susmilch 
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On 03/25/2015 12:51 PM, Paul Johnson wrote:
 On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 6:53 AM, José Matos jama...@lyx.org
 wrote:
 On Saturday 21 March 2015 22:38:09 Paul Johnson wrote:
 Can somebody explain the problems surrounding packaging of
 esint.sty?
 
 Note that I am writing this from Fedora, so I am not sure that
 all applies to RHEL/CentOS (although I suspect it does).
 
 Since the tex installed comes from texlive that means that all
 the (la)tex packages have been split into its package.
 
 If you want to install something like the previous mega packages,
 there are several schemes available:
 
 $ yum list texlive-scheme* . texlive-scheme-basic.noarch 
 texlive-scheme-context.noarch texlive-scheme-full.noarch 
 texlive-scheme-gust.noarch texlive-scheme-medium.noarch 
 texlive-scheme-minimal.noarch texlive-scheme-small.noarch 
 texlive-scheme-tetex.noarch texlive-scheme-xml.noarch
 
 If you install texlive-scheme full you will get all the packages.
 Medium should be a nice compromise.
 
 On a fresh install of RHEL 7, I find LyX 2.1 works well enough,
 except the old problem about missing esint.sty re-appears. Any
 documents with integrals won't compile because esint.sty is
 missing.
 
 Could you try:
 
 # yum install tex(esint.sty)
 
 And see if this works?
 
 
 Hello, Jose.
 
 Am I typing this incorrectly?
 
 # yum install tex(esint.sty) bash: syntax error near unexpected
 token `('
 
 I searched like this:
 
 # yum provides esint.sty Loaded plugins: fastestmirror, langpacks 
 base | 3.6 kB  00:00:00 epel/x86_64/metalink |  15 kB  00:00:00 
 epel | 4.4 kB  00:00:00 extras | 3.4 kB  00:00:00 pjku | 2.9 kB
 00:00:00 updates | 3.4 kB  00:00:00 epel/x86_64/primary_db | 4.0 MB
 00:00:00 (1/2): epel/x86_64/updateinfo | 317 kB  00:00:00 (2/2):
 epel/x86_64/pkgtags | 1.4 MB  00:00:00 Loading mirror speeds from
 cached hostfile * base: mirror.trouble-free.net * epel:
 mirror.oss.ou.edu * extras: centos-mirror.jchost.net * updates:
 mirrors.centarra.com epel/x86_64/filelists_db | 6.1 MB  00:00:00 
 updates/7/x86_64/filelists_db | 3.9 MB  00:00:00 No matches found
 
 There is a separate package for this in Fedora, texlive-esint, but
 not in any EL7 repos I could find.
 
 http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/rpminfo?rpmID=5907414
 
 I'd like to build my own version of that RPM, but apparently I have
 to rebuild the whole texlive package for Fedora in order to do
 that.  I made the mistake once of doing that in the RHEL 5 era, may
 do again.
 
 I'll keep trying, will let you know
 
 pj
 
 
 
 Note that this will work for all other .sty file.
 
 In Ubuntu systems there is no similar problem.  I find
 esint.sty is included in a package texlive-latex-extra.  I'm
 not finding it in similar on RedHat, but I have to admit that
 their new improved package management system is somewhat
 unhelpful.
 
 I searched long enough to see there is some peculiar history
 with packaging of esint.sty. I DO find the Fedora package in
 rpmfind.net texlive-esint-  I will rebuild that on the
 EL7 systems if I have to. But I can't see why this is necessary
 at all.
 
 pj
 
 I guess that there is a missing requirement for texlive packages
 in Fedora/EPEL, if that happens again please report it here or on
 Redhat bugzilla.
 
 That type of issues in on my TODO list to determine a minimum
 list of dependencies for the lyx rpms on Fedora/EPEL.
 
 Regards, -- José Abílio
 
 
 

# yum whatprovides */esint.sty

Loaded plugins: langpacks
4:texlive-esint-svn15878.1.1-1.1.fc21.noarch : Extended set of
integrals for Computer Modern
Repo: fedora
Matched from:
Filename: /usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/esint/esint.sty

4:texlive-esint-svn15878.1.1-1.1.fc21.noarch : Extended set of
integrals for Computer Modern
Repo: @fedora
Matched from:
Filename: /usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/esint/esint.sty

- -- 
Respectfully,

Robert Susmilch
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Re: esint.sty in RedHat/Centos 7. Where? Why omitted?

2015-03-25 Thread Paul Johnson 
On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 6:53 AM, José Matos  wrote:
> On Saturday 21 March 2015 22:38:09 Paul Johnson wrote:
>> Can somebody explain the problems surrounding packaging of esint.sty?
>
> Note that I am writing this from Fedora, so I am not sure that all applies to 
> RHEL/CentOS (although I suspect it does).
>
> Since the tex installed comes from texlive that means that all the (la)tex 
> packages have been split into its package.
>
> If you want to install something like the previous mega packages, there are 
> several schemes available:
>
> $ yum list texlive-scheme*
> .
> texlive-scheme-basic.noarch
> texlive-scheme-context.noarch
> texlive-scheme-full.noarch
> texlive-scheme-gust.noarch
> texlive-scheme-medium.noarch
> texlive-scheme-minimal.noarch
> texlive-scheme-small.noarch
> texlive-scheme-tetex.noarch
> texlive-scheme-xml.noarch
>
> If you install texlive-scheme full you will get all the packages. Medium 
> should be a nice compromise.
>
>> On a fresh install of RHEL 7, I find LyX 2.1 works well enough, except
>> the old problem about missing esint.sty re-appears. Any documents with
>> integrals won't compile because esint.sty is missing.
>
> Could you try:
>
> # yum install tex(esint.sty)
>
> And see if this works?
>

Hello, Jose.

Am I typing this incorrectly?

# yum install tex(esint.sty)
bash: syntax error near unexpected token `('

I searched like this:

# yum provides esint.sty
Loaded plugins: fastestmirror, langpacks
base
  | 3.6 kB  00:00:00
epel/x86_64/metalink
  |  15 kB  00:00:00
epel
  | 4.4 kB  00:00:00
extras
  | 3.4 kB  00:00:00
pjku
  | 2.9 kB  00:00:00
updates
  | 3.4 kB  00:00:00
epel/x86_64/primary_db
  | 4.0 MB  00:00:00
(1/2): epel/x86_64/updateinfo
  | 317 kB  00:00:00
(2/2): epel/x86_64/pkgtags
  | 1.4 MB  00:00:00
Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile
 * base: mirror.trouble-free.net
 * epel: mirror.oss.ou.edu
 * extras: centos-mirror.jchost.net
 * updates: mirrors.centarra.com
epel/x86_64/filelists_db
  | 6.1 MB  00:00:00
updates/7/x86_64/filelists_db
  | 3.9 MB  00:00:00
No matches found

There is a separate package for this in Fedora, texlive-esint, but not
in any EL7 repos I could find.

http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/rpminfo?rpmID=5907414

I'd like to build my own version of that RPM, but apparently I have to
rebuild the whole texlive package for Fedora in order to do that.  I
made the mistake once of doing that in the RHEL 5 era, may do again.

I'll keep trying, will let you know

pj



> Note that this will work for all other .sty file.
>
>> In Ubuntu systems there is no similar problem.  I find esint.sty is
>> included in a package texlive-latex-extra.  I'm not finding it in
>> similar on RedHat, but I have to admit that their "new improved"
>> package management system is somewhat unhelpful.
>>
>> I searched long enough to see there is some peculiar history with
>> packaging of esint.sty. I DO find the Fedora package in rpmfind.net
>> "texlive-esint-...".  I will rebuild that on the EL7 systems if I have
>> to. But I can't see why this is necessary at all.
>>
>> pj
>
> I guess that there is a missing requirement for texlive packages in 
> Fedora/EPEL, if that happens again please report it here or on Redhat 
> bugzilla.
>
> That type of issues in on my TODO list to determine a minimum list of 
> dependencies for the lyx rpms on Fedora/EPEL.
>
> Regards,
> --
> José Abílio



-- 
Paul E. Johnson
Professor, Political Science  Assoc. Director
1541 Lilac Lane, Room 504  Center for Research Methods
University of Kansas University of Kansas
http://pj.freefaculty.org   http://quant.ku.edu

graphical float placements

2015-03-25 Thread fmsal...@virginmedia.com 

Hullo,
Using distribution openSUSE 13.2 but not the rpm's for tex and 
lyx.  TexLive 2014 installed and lyx 2.1.2 compiled locally..


I am writing a document of about 50 pages with many pages of 
mathematics using koma-script report.  I keep experiencing erratic 
behaviour with the placement of graphical floats. The graphics are png 
files.


At times some greying out of options for the placement and sizing 
of the plots occurs and at other times there are no problems at all.   
Also apparently an acceptable setting of alternatives are ignored!   I 
have not been able to observe any common factors in what I have done.


At other times the floats are located within the text as intended.  
Then for no apparent reason they all appear at the end of the document.  
Having accepted that I should continue preparation and leave the float 
problem to be resolved later, I continued work and left the floats 
alone. In adding more text, some before and some after the first float 
location in the lyx document, all the floats suddenly reappeared at 
their intended positions.


Has anyone experienced anything similar.  I feel I should add a bug 
report but have no idea what to describe!


Regards
Frank Salter

Re: graphical float placements

2015-03-25 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann 



Am 25.03.2015 um 19:49 schrieb fmsal...@virginmedia.com:

Hullo,
Using distribution openSUSE 13.2 but not the rpm's for tex and 
lyx.  TexLive 2014 installed and lyx 2.1.2 compiled locally..


I am writing a document of about 50 pages with many pages of 
mathematics using koma-script report.  I keep experiencing erratic 
behaviour with the placement of graphical floats. The graphics are png 
files.


At times some greying out of options for the placement and sizing 
of the plots occurs and at other times there are no problems at all.   
Also apparently an acceptable setting of alternatives are ignored!   I 
have not been able to observe any common factors in what I have done.


At other times the floats are located within the text as 
intended.  Then for no apparent reason they all appear at the end of 
the document.  Having accepted that I should continue preparation and 
leave the float problem to be resolved later, I continued work and 
left the floats alone. In adding more text, some before and some after 
the first float location in the lyx document, all the floats suddenly 
reappeared at their intended positions.


Has anyone experienced anything similar.  I feel I should add a 
bug report but have no idea what to describe!


Regards
Frank Salter

This is the result of adding more text. Latex tries to fit the floats at 
reasonable places, and if there is not enough text, it accumulates at 
the end of the document.

Wolfgang

Re: graphical float placements

2015-03-25 Thread Stephen Buonopane 

On Mar 25, 2015, at 3:07 PM, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:

> 
> 
> Am 25.03.2015 um 19:49 schrieb fmsal...@virginmedia.com:
>> Hullo,
>>Using distribution openSUSE 13.2 but not the rpm's for tex and lyx.  
>> TexLive 2014 installed and lyx 2.1.2 compiled locally..
>> 
>>I am writing a document of about 50 pages with many pages of mathematics 
>> using koma-script report.  I keep experiencing erratic behaviour with the 
>> placement of graphical floats. The graphics are png files.
>> 
>>At times some greying out of options for the placement and sizing of the 
>> plots occurs and at other times there are no problems at all.   Also 
>> apparently an acceptable setting of alternatives are ignored!   I have not 
>> been able to observe any common factors in what I have done.
>> 
>>At other times the floats are located within the text as intended.  Then 
>> for no apparent reason they all appear at the end of the document.  Having 
>> accepted that I should continue preparation and leave the float problem to 
>> be resolved later, I continued work and left the floats alone. In adding 
>> more text, some before and some after the first float location in the lyx 
>> document, all the floats suddenly reappeared at their intended positions.
>> 
>>Has anyone experienced anything similar.  I feel I should add a bug 
>> report but have no idea what to describe!
>> 
>> Regards
>> Frank Salter
>> 
> This is the result of adding more text. Latex tries to fit the floats at 
> reasonable places, and if there is not enough text, it accumulates at the end 
> of the document.
> Wolfgang

If you want full manual control of float placement, go to
Edit -> Float Settings -> Here Definitely
There are other options there as well.

Re: graphical float placements

2015-03-25 Thread fmsal...@virginmedia.com 



Am 25.03.2015 um 19:49 schrieb fmsal...@virginmedia.com:
On 25/03/15 18:49, fmsal...@virginmedia.com wrote:

Hullo,
Using distribution openSUSE 13.2 but not the rpm's for tex and 
lyx.  TexLive 2014 installed and lyx 2.1.2 compiled locally..


I am writing a document of about 50 pages with many pages of 
mathematics using koma-script report.  I keep experiencing erratic 
behaviour with the placement of graphical floats. The graphics are png 
files.


At times some greying out of options for the placement and sizing 
of the plots occurs and at other times there are no problems at all.   
Also apparently an acceptable setting of alternatives are ignored!   I 
have not been able to observe any common factors in what I have done.


At other times the floats are located within the text as 
intended.  Then for no apparent reason they all appear at the end of 
the document.  Having accepted that I should continue preparation and 
leave the float problem to be resolved later, I continued work and 
left the floats alone. In adding more text, some before and some after 
the first float location in the lyx document, all the floats suddenly 
reappeared at their intended positions.


Has anyone experienced anything similar.  I feel I should add a 
bug report but have no idea what to describe!


Regards
Frank Salter

This is the result of adding more text. Latex tries to fit the floats at 
reasonable places, and if there is not enough text, it accumulates at 
the end of the document.

Wolfgang

The above was copied from the archive page as I do not recivie emails on 
the list but monitort its content...   Indentation has disappeared!


Thanks for your suggestion but I appear not to have explained in 
sufficient detail the nature of the problem.


The text I was entering was on page 41 of 54.  The float had 
appeared in the final document towards the end even though I had tried 
to locate of the document in the region of the text discussing the content.
I work with three monitors and keep two kpdf outputs on one monitor 
and have lyx on another. Any changes are picked up automatically as I 
check the changes made.  There are 5 floats in total, four are at other 
places in the text.  All the floats had been located at the end and 
appeared to be stuck there.  The addition of further text produced the 
result that all the floats relocated with no attempt having been made to 
relocate them.  They had originally been interspersed within the text. 
They were suddenly transferred to the end and now they have returned.  
The floats are sized and dispersed in such a manner that they should be 
able to be located within a page with some text.
 This seems to exclude the possibility of their locations being 
controlled by the mechanism you have described.


Regards
Frank Salter

Re: graphical float placements

2015-03-25 Thread fmsal...@virginmedia.com 

Stephan Buonopane wrote:

|  If you want full manual control of float placement, go to
|  Edit -> Float Settings -> Here Definitely
|  There are other options there as well.

 Thanks for your help but I have examined the manual and the 
experiences I am trying to discuss do not match the description there.


I believe that the movement to the end and then after many editing 
actions, the return to the locations I had set previously, using the 
graphical interface provided,  demonstrates the problem experienced.  I 
had also tried to set the location in the manner you suggested but this 
had also failed to produce the intended effect.


Regards
 Frank Salter

Re: esint.sty in RedHat/Centos 7. Where? Why omitted?

2015-03-25 Thread Robert Susmilch 
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Hash: SHA1

On 03/25/2015 12:51 PM, Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 6:53 AM, José Matos 
> wrote:
>> On Saturday 21 March 2015 22:38:09 Paul Johnson wrote:
>>> Can somebody explain the problems surrounding packaging of
>>> esint.sty?
>> 
>> Note that I am writing this from Fedora, so I am not sure that
>> all applies to RHEL/CentOS (although I suspect it does).
>> 
>> Since the tex installed comes from texlive that means that all
>> the (la)tex packages have been split into its package.
>> 
>> If you want to install something like the previous mega packages,
>> there are several schemes available:
>> 
>> $ yum list texlive-scheme* . texlive-scheme-basic.noarch 
>> texlive-scheme-context.noarch texlive-scheme-full.noarch 
>> texlive-scheme-gust.noarch texlive-scheme-medium.noarch 
>> texlive-scheme-minimal.noarch texlive-scheme-small.noarch 
>> texlive-scheme-tetex.noarch texlive-scheme-xml.noarch
>> 
>> If you install texlive-scheme full you will get all the packages.
>> Medium should be a nice compromise.
>> 
>>> On a fresh install of RHEL 7, I find LyX 2.1 works well enough,
>>> except the old problem about missing esint.sty re-appears. Any
>>> documents with integrals won't compile because esint.sty is
>>> missing.
>> 
>> Could you try:
>> 
>> # yum install tex(esint.sty)
>> 
>> And see if this works?
>> 
> 
> Hello, Jose.
> 
> Am I typing this incorrectly?
> 
> # yum install tex(esint.sty) bash: syntax error near unexpected
> token `('
> 
> I searched like this:
> 
> # yum provides esint.sty Loaded plugins: fastestmirror, langpacks 
> base | 3.6 kB  00:00:00 epel/x86_64/metalink |  15 kB  00:00:00 
> epel | 4.4 kB  00:00:00 extras | 3.4 kB  00:00:00 pjku | 2.9 kB
> 00:00:00 updates | 3.4 kB  00:00:00 epel/x86_64/primary_db | 4.0 MB
> 00:00:00 (1/2): epel/x86_64/updateinfo | 317 kB  00:00:00 (2/2):
> epel/x86_64/pkgtags | 1.4 MB  00:00:00 Loading mirror speeds from
> cached hostfile * base: mirror.trouble-free.net * epel:
> mirror.oss.ou.edu * extras: centos-mirror.jchost.net * updates:
> mirrors.centarra.com epel/x86_64/filelists_db | 6.1 MB  00:00:00 
> updates/7/x86_64/filelists_db | 3.9 MB  00:00:00 No matches found
> 
> There is a separate package for this in Fedora, texlive-esint, but
> not in any EL7 repos I could find.
> 
> http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/rpminfo?rpmID=5907414
> 
> I'd like to build my own version of that RPM, but apparently I have
> to rebuild the whole texlive package for Fedora in order to do
> that.  I made the mistake once of doing that in the RHEL 5 era, may
> do again.
> 
> I'll keep trying, will let you know
> 
> pj
> 
> 
> 
>> Note that this will work for all other .sty file.
>> 
>>> In Ubuntu systems there is no similar problem.  I find
>>> esint.sty is included in a package texlive-latex-extra.  I'm
>>> not finding it in similar on RedHat, but I have to admit that
>>> their "new improved" package management system is somewhat
>>> unhelpful.
>>> 
>>> I searched long enough to see there is some peculiar history
>>> with packaging of esint.sty. I DO find the Fedora package in
>>> rpmfind.net "texlive-esint-...".  I will rebuild that on the
>>> EL7 systems if I have to. But I can't see why this is necessary
>>> at all.
>>> 
>>> pj
>> 
>> I guess that there is a missing requirement for texlive packages
>> in Fedora/EPEL, if that happens again please report it here or on
>> Redhat bugzilla.
>> 
>> That type of issues in on my TODO list to determine a minimum
>> list of dependencies for the lyx rpms on Fedora/EPEL.
>> 
>> Regards, -- José Abílio
> 
> 
> 

# yum whatprovides */esint.sty

Loaded plugins: langpacks
4:texlive-esint-svn15878.1.1-1.1.fc21.noarch : Extended set of
integrals for Computer Modern
Repo: fedora
Matched from:
Filename: /usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/esint/esint.sty

4:texlive-esint-svn15878.1.1-1.1.fc21.noarch : Extended set of
integrals for Computer Modern
Repo: @fedora
Matched from:
Filename: /usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/esint/esint.sty

- -- 
Respectfully,

Robert Susmilch
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