OD conversions

2016-06-18 Thread gordon cooper


"In Lyx 2.2.0,  Documents tab, there is the option to view
Open Document (elyxer)

An error?  Selecting this certainly does a conversion, the heading says 
.odt, but the converted file does not look like open doc format, and 
if the file is saved, it saves as an html, which is what I would expect 
from an elyxer conversion. "



I wrote the above a few days ago, but do not seem to have triggered
any comment. There is more to it, I see. In that same menu is
the option to view as MS Word - but the file looks like html and saves
as html.

Am I being mislead?

Gordon.



Re: install of Lyx 2.2 and texlive2016

2016-06-18 Thread UD

  
  
I can answer my own question:
If I start tlmgr from the terminal with:
tlmgr gui -font "helvetica 12" 
then tlmgr opens with a usable size font, and all is well.

E. Kaplan

On 06/18/2016 09:56 PM, Kornel Benko
  wrote:


  Am Samstag, 18. Juni 2016 um 18:06:24, schrieb Michael Berger 

  
Hi Miguel, Kornel,
it seemed to be obvious that the installer missed some perl packages.
In lack of specific knowledge and brain power I used my gut feeling 
instead and added the following packages:
perl-tk
perl-Gtk2
libxft-dev
gtk+2.0
gtk+3.0
These in turn required quite a number of dependencies.

# ./install -gui
and  the Gui 2016 menu dialogue popped up
I accepted the default settings and the installation finished without 
problem.

In the end I was urged to add "/usr/local/texlive/2016/bin/x86_64-linux" 
to my PATH.
I will do that as Miguel told me and enter that line in LyX 
Preferences'  as PATH prefix.

  
  
This is nice, but that way you will use TL2016 _only_ from lyx.
I prefer to change my PATH directly, so that I have always access to the installed texlive.


  
The Perl/Tk installation is indeed very distro-specific!

Thanks very much for your valuable tips and advice.

Next challenge will be to install Lyx 2.2.
Miguel, please tell me if there is anything special to be obeyed - I may 
also ask Scott Kostyshak.

All the best and a nice weekend!
Michael


  
  
	Kornel


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Re: install of Lyx 2.2 and texlive2016

2016-06-18 Thread UD

  
  
This is a bit off the main line of this thread, but maybe someone
will be able to help--
I had installed TLMGR following the discussion here, and it
installed without a problem.  When I ran it, nothing happened, but
.   after I installed perl-tk and ran it again, the tlmgr gui
opened  up. However, on my Yoga 2 Pro HiDPI screen the gui was
useless-- everything is so tiny that I cannot read anything.  I
could not find preferences in the tlmgr menus-- does anyone know how
to make the tlmgr gui is usable with a high-resolution (3200X1800)
screen?
Thans,
E. Kaplan


On 06/18/2016 09:56 PM, Kornel Benko
  wrote:


  Am Samstag, 18. Juni 2016 um 18:06:24, schrieb Michael Berger 

  
Hi Miguel, Kornel,
it seemed to be obvious that the installer missed some perl packages.
In lack of specific knowledge and brain power I used my gut feeling 
instead and added the following packages:
perl-tk
perl-Gtk2
libxft-dev
gtk+2.0
gtk+3.0
These in turn required quite a number of dependencies.

# ./install -gui
and  the Gui 2016 menu dialogue popped up
I accepted the default settings and the installation finished without 
problem.

In the end I was urged to add "/usr/local/texlive/2016/bin/x86_64-linux" 
to my PATH.
I will do that as Miguel told me and enter that line in LyX 
Preferences'  as PATH prefix.

  
  
This is nice, but that way you will use TL2016 _only_ from lyx.
I prefer to change my PATH directly, so that I have always access to the installed texlive.


  
The Perl/Tk installation is indeed very distro-specific!

Thanks very much for your valuable tips and advice.

Next challenge will be to install Lyx 2.2.
Miguel, please tell me if there is anything special to be obeyed - I may 
also ask Scott Kostyshak.

All the best and a nice weekend!
Michael


  
  
	Kornel


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Re: install of Lyx 2.2 and texlive2016

2016-06-18 Thread Kornel Benko
Am Samstag, 18. Juni 2016 um 18:06:24, schrieb Michael Berger 
> Hi Miguel, Kornel,
> it seemed to be obvious that the installer missed some perl packages.
> In lack of specific knowledge and brain power I used my gut feeling 
> instead and added the following packages:
> perl-tk
> perl-Gtk2
> libxft-dev
> gtk+2.0
> gtk+3.0
> These in turn required quite a number of dependencies.
> 
> # ./install -gui
> and  the Gui 2016 menu dialogue popped up
> I accepted the default settings and the installation finished without 
> problem.
> 
> In the end I was urged to add "/usr/local/texlive/2016/bin/x86_64-linux" 
> to my PATH.
> I will do that as Miguel told me and enter that line in LyX 
> Preferences'  as PATH prefix.

This is nice, but that way you will use TL2016 _only_ from lyx.
I prefer to change my PATH directly, so that I have always access to the 
installed texlive.

> The Perl/Tk installation is indeed very distro-specific!
> 
> Thanks very much for your valuable tips and advice.
> 
> Next challenge will be to install Lyx 2.2.
> Miguel, please tell me if there is anything special to be obeyed - I may 
> also ask Scott Kostyshak.
> 
> All the best and a nice weekend!
> Michael
> 

Kornel

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forthcoming installation of Lyx 2.2

2016-06-18 Thread Michael Berger

Hi all,
I have Mageia5 / KDE and just succeeded to install texlive2016.
The next challenge is to install Lyx 2.2 from http://www.lyx.org/Download

i am addressing those of you who already successfully did this.

Is there anything to be observed/prepared/considered prior to starting 
the installation?

Currently no Lyx version is installed.
Following Miguel's advice I will enter the PATH to texlive2016 in the 
Prefix field of LyX's Preferences dialogue.


Thanks and Cheers
Michael



Re: module for footnotes as both footnotes and endnotes

2016-06-18 Thread Richard Heck
On 06/17/2016 05:09 AM, Lucas wrote:
> Thanks, again, Richard,
>
> Although your suggestions didn't exactly work, they lead me to a
> slightly burdensome approach that did work.  First, the Foot to End
> module does exactly as the \let\footnote=\endnote line I had used in
> the preamble.  It doesn't leave the footnotes' descriptions on each
> page but moves them to the end.  (I'm trying to get them placed in
> both locations.)  Insert> Custom Insets>Endnote does almost work when
> listing the footnote's contents inside it and still inside a normal
> footnote, but then the superscript for the footnote and for the
> endnote each are listed in the main text next to eachother.
>
> My ultimate solution was to manually create endnotes (beside each
> footnote), with this ERT recipe:
> \stepcounter{endnote}\endnotetext{Text of each endnote (same content
> as each footnote)}
>
> It removes the secondary endnote numbering from the main text body,
> while still creating an endnote as Insert>Custom Insets>Endnote would
> have.

Something like this in the preamble might work:

\usepackage{endnotes}
\let\oldfoot=\footnote
\renewcommand\footnote[1]{\oldfoot{#1}\stepcounter{endnote}\endnotetext{#1}}

Then you don't have to do anything manually in the text.

Richard



Re: install of Lyx 2.2 and texlive2016

2016-06-18 Thread Michael Berger

Hi Miguel, Kornel,
it seemed to be obvious that the installer missed some perl packages.
In lack of specific knowledge and brain power I used my gut feeling 
instead and added the following packages:

perl-tk
perl-Gtk2
libxft-dev
gtk+2.0
gtk+3.0
These in turn required quite a number of dependencies.

# ./install -gui
and  the Gui 2016 menu dialogue popped up
I accepted the default settings and the installation finished without 
problem.


In the end I was urged to add "/usr/local/texlive/2016/bin/x86_64-linux" 
to my PATH.
I will do that as Miguel told me and enter that line in LyX 
Preferences'  as PATH prefix.


The Perl/Tk installation is indeed very distro-specific!

Thanks very much for your valuable tips and advice.

Next challenge will be to install Lyx 2.2.
Miguel, please tell me if there is anything special to be obeyed - I may 
also ask Scott Kostyshak.


All the best and a nice weekend!
Michael

On 06/18/2016 10:38 AM, Kornel Benko wrote:

Am Samstag, 18. Juni 2016 um 10:08:15, schrieb Michael Berger 

On 06/18/2016 09:16 AM, Kornel Benko wrote:

Am Samstag, 18. Juni 2016 um 08:36:59, schrieb Michael Berger 

Hi Miguel, hi all

I installed texlive2016 last night:
# ./install-tl -gui   (NOT ./install-tl-20160523 -gui)

The installer did not find Perl/Tk but after giving some comments
continued in text mode. After 49 minutes I was greeted 'Welcome!'.

I presume texlive2016 will be fully functionally despite that missing
gui. :-\

Sure, but you still may want to use the GUI.


Please, could you or somebody else confirm my presumption before I
proceed with installing LyX 2.2.0 etc. ?!

"tlmgr gui" needs Perl/Tk. Install packages "libgtk2-perl" and "perl-tk" (== 
ubuntu package names)


Remains the question why your installation worked with -gui while mine
did not!?
I found perl-Tk (Tk modules for Perl), 804.33.0, 1.mga x86_64 is
installed in my system. It is the only perl-Tk package installed out of
the total number of 24.

The Tex Maintainers say that GUI must be compiled with XFT support - did
you do that?!
In my software manager I see 'lib64xft-gir2.0' and 'lib64xft2'
installed  out of another 16 xft packages.

I very much appreciate receiving comments on this issue :-*

Thanks an best,
Michael


Kornel

Thanks Kornel,
I have 'perl-tk 'installed  but 'libgtk2-perl' is not found in Mageia's
software manager.

Sorry, I cannot help here.


Somebody in a forum suggested that 'libxft-dev' was needed and I just
installed it.

This is a devel package, I don't see how this could help.

I would try to call 'tlmgr gui'. The possibly error messages may help to 
identify
missing perl packages.


Could I do a second installation

# ./install-tl -gui

over the first one without having to remove anything?

Why not. In a worst case you will have to remove anyway.


Michael

Kornel




Re: install of Lyx 2.2 and texlive2016

2016-06-18 Thread Kornel Benko
Am Samstag, 18. Juni 2016 um 10:08:15, schrieb Michael Berger 
> 
> On 06/18/2016 09:16 AM, Kornel Benko wrote:
> > Am Samstag, 18. Juni 2016 um 08:36:59, schrieb Michael Berger 
> > 
> >> Hi Miguel, hi all
> >>
> >> I installed texlive2016 last night:
> >> # ./install-tl -gui   (NOT ./install-tl-20160523 -gui)
> >>
> >> The installer did not find Perl/Tk but after giving some comments
> >> continued in text mode. After 49 minutes I was greeted 'Welcome!'.
> >>
> >> I presume texlive2016 will be fully functionally despite that missing
> >> gui. :-\
> > Sure, but you still may want to use the GUI.
> >
> >> Please, could you or somebody else confirm my presumption before I
> >> proceed with installing LyX 2.2.0 etc. ?!
> > "tlmgr gui" needs Perl/Tk. Install packages "libgtk2-perl" and "perl-tk" 
> > (== ubuntu package names)
> >
> >> Remains the question why your installation worked with -gui while mine
> >> did not!?
> >> I found perl-Tk (Tk modules for Perl), 804.33.0, 1.mga x86_64 is
> >> installed in my system. It is the only perl-Tk package installed out of
> >> the total number of 24.
> >>
> >> The Tex Maintainers say that GUI must be compiled with XFT support - did
> >> you do that?!
> >> In my software manager I see 'lib64xft-gir2.0' and 'lib64xft2'
> >> installed  out of another 16 xft packages.
> >>
> >> I very much appreciate receiving comments on this issue :-*
> >>
> >> Thanks an best,
> >> Michael
> >>
> > Kornel
> Thanks Kornel,
> I have 'perl-tk 'installed  but 'libgtk2-perl' is not found in Mageia's 
> software manager.

Sorry, I cannot help here.

> Somebody in a forum suggested that 'libxft-dev' was needed and I just 
> installed it.

This is a devel package, I don't see how this could help.

I would try to call 'tlmgr gui'. The possibly error messages may help to 
identify
missing perl packages.

> Could I do a second installation
> 
> # ./install-tl -gui
> 
> over the first one without having to remove anything?

Why not. In a worst case you will have to remove anyway.

> Michael

Kornel

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Re: install of Lyx 2.2 and texlive2016

2016-06-18 Thread Michael Berger



On 06/18/2016 09:16 AM, Kornel Benko wrote:

Am Samstag, 18. Juni 2016 um 08:36:59, schrieb Michael Berger 

Hi Miguel, hi all

I installed texlive2016 last night:
# ./install-tl -gui   (NOT ./install-tl-20160523 -gui)

The installer did not find Perl/Tk but after giving some comments
continued in text mode. After 49 minutes I was greeted 'Welcome!'.

I presume texlive2016 will be fully functionally despite that missing
gui. :-\

Sure, but you still may want to use the GUI.


Please, could you or somebody else confirm my presumption before I
proceed with installing LyX 2.2.0 etc. ?!

"tlmgr gui" needs Perl/Tk. Install packages "libgtk2-perl" and "perl-tk" (== 
ubuntu package names)


Remains the question why your installation worked with -gui while mine
did not!?
I found perl-Tk (Tk modules for Perl), 804.33.0, 1.mga x86_64 is
installed in my system. It is the only perl-Tk package installed out of
the total number of 24.

The Tex Maintainers say that GUI must be compiled with XFT support - did
you do that?!
In my software manager I see 'lib64xft-gir2.0' and 'lib64xft2'
installed  out of another 16 xft packages.

I very much appreciate receiving comments on this issue :-*

Thanks an best,
Michael


Kornel

Thanks Kornel,
I have 'perl-tk 'installed  but 'libgtk2-perl' is not found in Mageia's 
software manager.
Somebody in a forum suggested that 'libxft-dev' was needed and I just 
installed it.


Could I do a second installation

# ./install-tl -gui

over the first one without having to remove anything?

Michael



Re: module for footnotes as both footnotes and endnotes

2016-06-18 Thread Lucas
Everyone can disregard my off-topic question, as I've now worked around it
(however imperfectly) by labeling the entries of interest and using
references to the pages of the labels in a manually-structured
(non-)index.  I decided to take that route in the end because the person
I'm helping format this for, independently, manually, created an index
format that's grouped by subject so that alphabetically indexing wouldn't
have worked anyway.


Thanks for your immediate, experienced, & helpful support Richard,

  Luke


On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 4:09 AM, Lucas  wrote:

> Thanks, again, Richard,
>
> Although your suggestions didn't exactly work, they lead me to a slightly
> burdensome approach that did work.  First, the Foot to End module does
> exactly as the \let\footnote=\endnote line I had used in the preamble.  It
> doesn't leave the footnotes' descriptions on each page but moves them to
> the end.  (I'm trying to get them placed in both locations.)  Insert>
> Custom Insets>Endnote does almost work when listing the footnote's contents
> inside it and still inside a normal footnote, but then the superscript for
> the footnote and for the endnote each are listed in the main text next to
> eachother.
>
> My ultimate solution was to manually create endnotes (beside each
> footnote), with this ERT recipe:
> \stepcounter{endnote}\endnotetext{Text of each endnote (same content as
> each footnote)}
>
> It removes the secondary endnote numbering from the main text body, while
> still creating an endnote as Insert>Custom Insets>Endnote would have.
>
> This is off-topic from the previous question, but I'm also hoping someone
> can tell me how to set an index to display one column in the memoir class,
> so that each entry spans completely within the the page's margins.  It
> seems to be set to two by default.
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>   Lucas
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 4:48 PM, Richard Heck  wrote:
>
>> On 06/16/2016 10:03 AM, Lucas wrote:
>>
>> Okay, thanks Richard,
>>
>> The Endnote module is there, but if I add it after commenting out my
>> previously manually added preamble lines:
>>
>> \usepackage{endnotes}
>>
>> \let\footnote=\endnote
>>
>> I get an error about "Undefined control sequence" because of some TeX
>> containing "\theendnotes"  which I had used to place them.  Without that, I
>> don't see them as endnotes, but just footnotes.  Is there another,
>> expected, way to insert the endnote placeholder when using the Endnote
>> module?
>>
>>
>> It seems like you should be using the Foot to End module. The endnotes
>> module adds a special endnote inset, which can be used in addition to
>> footnotes. (It can be found under Insert> Custom Insets.) The Foot to End
>> module basically just adds the two commands you mentioned.
>>
>> Richard
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>
>>   Luke
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 3:38 AM, Richard Heck  wrote:
>>
>>> On 06/16/2016 08:33 AM, Lucas wrote:
>>>
>>> This wiki page suggests there will be ("As of LyX 1.6") a module that
>>> would enable both footnotes as endnotes and displayed as usual footnotes,
>>> but I can't seem to find it:  
>>> https://wiki.lyx.org/Tips/EndNotes :
>>> "In the 1.6 series, endnotes will be supported by two sorts of layout
>>> modules . One of them, *foottoend*,
>>> just implements this trick. Another provides direct support for endnotes,
>>> in addition to footnotes."
>>>
>>>
>>> It should be listed under Document> Settings> Modules, as Endnote. If
>>> it's not there, what modules do you see listed?
>>>
>>> Richard
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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Re: install of Lyx 2.2 and texlive2016

2016-06-18 Thread Kornel Benko
Am Samstag, 18. Juni 2016 um 08:36:59, schrieb Michael Berger 
> Hi Miguel, hi all
> 
> I installed texlive2016 last night:
> # ./install-tl -gui   (NOT ./install-tl-20160523 -gui)
> 
> The installer did not find Perl/Tk but after giving some comments 
> continued in text mode. After 49 minutes I was greeted 'Welcome!'.
> 
> I presume texlive2016 will be fully functionally despite that missing 
> gui. :-\

Sure, but you still may want to use the GUI.

> Please, could you or somebody else confirm my presumption before I 
> proceed with installing LyX 2.2.0 etc. ?!

"tlmgr gui" needs Perl/Tk. Install packages "libgtk2-perl" and "perl-tk" (== 
ubuntu package names)

> Remains the question why your installation worked with -gui while mine 
> did not!?
> I found perl-Tk (Tk modules for Perl), 804.33.0, 1.mga x86_64 is 
> installed in my system. It is the only perl-Tk package installed out of 
> the total number of 24.
> 
> The Tex Maintainers say that GUI must be compiled with XFT support - did 
> you do that?!
> In my software manager I see 'lib64xft-gir2.0' and 'lib64xft2' 
> installed  out of another 16 xft packages.
> 
> I very much appreciate receiving comments on this issue :-*
> 
> Thanks an best,
> Michael
> 

Kornel

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Re: install of Lyx 2.2 and texlive2016

2016-06-18 Thread Michael Berger

Hi Miguel, hi all

I installed texlive2016 last night:
# ./install-tl -gui   (NOT ./install-tl-20160523 -gui)

The installer did not find Perl/Tk but after giving some comments 
continued in text mode. After 49 minutes I was greeted 'Welcome!'.


I presume texlive2016 will be fully functionally despite that missing 
gui. :-\
Please, could you or somebody else confirm my presumption before I 
proceed with installing LyX 2.2.0 etc. ?!


Remains the question why your installation worked with -gui while mine 
did not!?
I found perl-Tk (Tk modules for Perl), 804.33.0, 1.mga x86_64 is 
installed in my system. It is the only perl-Tk package installed out of 
the total number of 24.


The Tex Maintainers say that GUI must be compiled with XFT support - did 
you do that?!
In my software manager I see 'lib64xft-gir2.0' and 'lib64xft2' 
installed  out of another 16 xft packages.


I very much appreciate receiving comments on this issue :-*

Thanks an best,
Michael



On 06/17/2016 03:09 PM, Buenas Noticias wrote:

Hi Michael:

Yes, Tools > Preferences > PATH

Then reconfigure LyX and work.

Miguel



On 17/06/16 14:30, Michael Berger wrote:

Hola Buenas Noticias y muchas muchas gracias!

Your comment is very good news to me especially as it comes from a
person using Mageia5 like I do.
You basically did what I was planning.
But then you also added some very interesting extras that I was not
aware of and nobody before had mentioned.

A have one single question though re 'Preferences-PATH'.
Do you refer to the LyX Preferences Menu Tools > Preferences > Paths and
then write into PATH prefix ?

Of course I will revert to you after the work is done. However, I might
come up with more questions if something should go wrong ;-)

Michael

On 06/17/2016 12:03 PM, Buenas Noticias wrote:

Hi:

I download the tarball install-tl-unx.tar.gz and:

tar zxvf install-tl-unx.tar,gz

cd install-tl-20160523

su

pwd

#./install-tl-20160523 -gui

tlmgr is a a binary and shall open de interface to install.

Then you install lyx-2.2.0 and in Preferences-PATH write
/usr/local/texlive/2016/bin/x86_64-linux

I have Mageia 5 and work fine

Greetings





On 17/06/16 10:58, Michael Berger wrote:

Hi Scott, Kornel,
I have now a clean and updated Mageia5 default installation on a
separate HD (no Lyx, no texlive).

My goal is to get Lyx 2.2.0 and texlive2016 running but I am not sure
how to achieve that.

This is my (very innocent) plan:

- first install texlive2016 using 'install-tl-unx.tar.gz' from
https://www.tug.org/texlive/acquire-netinstall.html
- then install Lyx 2.2.0 from http://www.lyx/org/download

Is this the right way to do?
If so, please also advise what else needs to be observed/added/done 
etc.


Thanks and cheers,
Michael

PS: I just learned that Mageia6 will still come with texlive2013