Re: how to load hyperref before titlesec to avoid off-sync links?

[Joel Kulesza]

On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 10:04 AM, Scott Kostyshak  wrote:

> It seems there are many cases with hyperref. If this is confirmed by
> others, I wonder if a checkbox in the PDF tab of "load hyperref at end
> of preamble" would solve many cases. It might be better to come up with
> a general solution though.



My understanding is that in some cases hyperref should come before
packages, and other times: after.  See the discussion starting on page 17
of
http://ftp.math.purdue.edu/mirrors/ctan.org/macros/latex/contrib/hyperref/README.pdf
.

Regards,
Joel

Re: how to load hyperref before titlesec to avoid off-sync links?

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Wed, Nov 09, 2016 at 05:33:14PM +0100, Liviu Andronic wrote:

> Do we document this (i.e. explicitly controlling the order of loaded
> packages) somewhere? I've quickly searched the docs before firing the
> email, but couldn't find something (I checked User's Guide B.21 and
> 6.10.2).

I don't know. I suppose it falls under customization since you load
titlesec in the user preamble. In the customization manual we describe
Provides but I don't think we talk about how it can be used to control
the order of packages, which is a common issue that users run into.

It seems there are many cases with hyperref. If this is confirmed by
others, I wonder if a checkbox in the PDF tab of "load hyperref at end
of preamble" would solve many cases. It might be better to come up with
a general solution though.

Scott


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Re: how to load hyperref before titlesec to avoid off-sync links?

[Liviu Andronic]

On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 3:47 PM, Scott Kostyshak  wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 09, 2016 at 12:26:18PM +0100, Liviu Andronic wrote:
>
>> > The
>> > solution it seems is to make sure that hyperref is loaded before
>> > titlesec, but I'm at a loss as to how to achieve this.
>
> Do you mean load hyperref *after* titlesec?
>
Yes, precisely.


> In local layout, put
>
>   Provides hyperref
>
> Then load hyperref yourself in the LaTeX preamble.
>
Perfect, thank you.

Do we document this (i.e. explicitly controlling the order of loaded
packages) somewhere? I've quickly searched the docs before firing the
email, but couldn't find something (I checked User's Guide B.21 and
6.10.2).


Liviu


> See the attached.
>
> Scott

Re: how to load hyperref before titlesec to avoid off-sync links?

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Wed, Nov 09, 2016 at 12:26:18PM +0100, Liviu Andronic wrote:

> > The
> > solution it seems is to make sure that hyperref is loaded before
> > titlesec, but I'm at a loss as to how to achieve this.

Do you mean load hyperref *after* titlesec?

In local layout, put

  Provides hyperref

Then load hyperref yourself in the LaTeX preamble.

See the attached.

Scott
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Re: how to load hyperref before titlesec to avoid off-sync links?

[Liviu Andronic]

And of course a typo:
*how to load titlesec before hyperref to avoid off-sync links?


On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 12:22 PM, Liviu Andronic  wrote:
> Dear all,
> In a document I want to start new page with each section, and follow
> this recipe for that:
> http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/9497/start-new-page-with-each-section/9505?noredirect=1#comment829734_9505
>
> \usepackage{titlesec}
> \newcommand{\sectionbreak}{\clearpage}
>
> The problem arises because if you use hyperref and a ToC, the links
> get off-sync. For instance, clicking on Section 2 in the ToC will
> bring you to p3, whereas this section is on p4 (see attached). The
> solution it seems is to make sure that hyperref is loaded before
> titlesec, but I'm at a loss as to how to achieve this.
>

*to make sure that titlesec is loaded before hyperref...


Liviu


> I tried:
> \AtBeginDocument{
> \usepackage{titlesec}
> \newcommand{\sectionbreak}{\clearpage}
> }
>
> but it (as expected) doesn't improve things. Any ideas?
>
> I remember order of package loading in LyX has been discussed before,
> but I can't recall what's the current state of things...
>
> Regards,
> Liviu

how to load hyperref before titlesec to avoid off-sync links?

[Liviu Andronic]

Dear all,
In a document I want to start new page with each section, and follow
this recipe for that:
http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/9497/start-new-page-with-each-section/9505?noredirect=1#comment829734_9505

\usepackage{titlesec}
\newcommand{\sectionbreak}{\clearpage}

The problem arises because if you use hyperref and a ToC, the links
get off-sync. For instance, clicking on Section 2 in the ToC will
bring you to p3, whereas this section is on p4 (see attached). The
solution it seems is to make sure that hyperref is loaded before
titlesec, but I'm at a loss as to how to achieve this.

I tried:
\AtBeginDocument{
\usepackage{titlesec}
\newcommand{\sectionbreak}{\clearpage}
}

but it (as expected) doesn't improve things. Any ideas?

I remember order of package loading in LyX has been discussed before,
but I can't recall what's the current state of things...

Regards,
Liviu


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