Re: The tortured release of 2.3.0 Windows binaries

[Steve Litt]

ROFLMAO, I ask myself this all the time, on multiple mailing lists.

On the bright side, 90% of the heartache doesn't apply to me.

SteveT


On Sat, 12 May 2018 20:03:09 -0700
John White  wrote:

> Why are people still using Windows?  My firm gets along without Gates
> just fine.
> 
> John White
> 
> On Friday, May 11, 2018 4:18:17 PM PDT Richard Kimberly Heck wrote:
> > On 05/11/2018 03:37 PM, Jim Rockford wrote:  
> > > In my 20+ years in the world of science, I have not known a single
> > > user of Lyx (~50 in total) who wasn't computer savvy.  Why not
> > > just include a warning message that Lyx 2.3.0 may not function
> > > properly with MiKTeX distributions that have not been updated as
> > > recently as some specific date?  
> > 
> > That is more or less what was proposed by most of the development
> > team: A warning at start-up, that LyX was going to update MikTeX,
> > with an option for the user to abort the install if they wish. The
> > person responsible for the Windows packages refused to include such
> > a warning, and we did not think updating people's other software
> > without asking permission to do so was something we should do. So
> > that has left us in a bad position.
> > 
> > We are working now to try to produce a Windows installer.
> > Unfortunately, none of the active development team use Windows, so
> > it is taking longer than it otherwise might. We'd certainly welcome
> > help from someone who does use Windows.
> > 
> > Riki  
> 

Re: The tortured release of 2.3.0 Windows binaries

[John White]

Why are people still using Windows?  My firm gets along without Gates just fine.

John White

On Friday, May 11, 2018 4:18:17 PM PDT Richard Kimberly Heck wrote:
> On 05/11/2018 03:37 PM, Jim Rockford wrote:
> > In my 20+ years in the world of science, I have not known a single
> > user of Lyx (~50 in total) who wasn't computer savvy.  Why not just
> > include a warning message that Lyx 2.3.0 may not function properly
> > with MiKTeX distributions that have not been updated as recently as
> > some specific date?
> 
> That is more or less what was proposed by most of the development team:
> A warning at start-up, that LyX was going to update MikTeX, with an
> option for the user to abort the install if they wish. The person
> responsible for the Windows packages refused to include such a warning,
> and we did not think updating people's other software without asking
> permission to do so was something we should do. So that has left us in a
> bad position.
> 
> We are working now to try to produce a Windows installer. Unfortunately,
> none of the active development team use Windows, so it is taking longer
> than it otherwise might. We'd certainly welcome help from someone who
> does use Windows.
> 
> Riki

Re: Official LyX 2.3.0 Windows binaries

[Matías]

Dear Scott,

Thank you very much for your answer.  I will install and test Lyx 2.3.0.

Best,

Matías

2018-05-11 17:44 GMT+02:00 Scott Kostyshak :

> On Fri, May 11, 2018 at 12:24:41PM +, Matías wrote:
> > To whom it may concern:
>
> Dear Matias,
>
> Thank you for your interest.
>
> > The LyX  2.2.4 and LyX 2.3.0 versions do not have Windows binaries. I
> would
> > like to know if this structure is going to be continued in the following
> > versions.
>
> We are not happy with the current situation and our goal is to provide
> official Windows binaries. Note that there are unofficial binaries
> available that have been made by a LyX developer, that have been tested,
> and that from what I've heard from users work well. The LyX 2.3.0
> installers (both the bundle and the simple installer) need to
> automatically update your MiKTeX installation to the newest MiKTeX
> version (LyX 2.3.0 requires this on Windows). If you are fine with your
> MiKTeX installation being automatically updated during the installation,
> you could consider using these binaries, which have been posted by the
> LyX developer here:
>
>   http://ftp.lyx.de/LyXWinInstaller/LyX2.3.0/
>
> > Furthermore, are both the LyX .2.2.3 and 2.3.0 compatible?
>
> LyX 2.3.0 can open files that were saved with LyX 2.2.3, but LyX 2.2.3
> cannot open files that were saved by LyX 2.2.3.
>
> Best,
>
> Scott
>