Re: Empty backup directory

2021-06-26 Thread Daniel

On 2021-06-26 10:58, Kornel Benko wrote:

Am Sat, 26 Jun 2021 09:29:29 +0200
schrieb Daniel :


Hi,

After installing LyX, the backup directory is empty (Preferences >
Paths). Does that mean that no backups are created by default or that
the backups are created even though "Backup documents, every ...
minutes" is checked (Preferences > Look & Feel > Document Handling)
(btw. Look & Feel seems a misnomer for backup settings). Or is a backup
created in the directory of the lyx file (the title bar shows a
directory even for new not yet saved files, so I suppose these files are
backup there as well)?

Daniel



 From what I understand, backups are created iff a lyx file changes while
edited by lyx.

Kornel


I still find LyX's backups a bit confusing. Officially it says in the 
User Guide:


"Backup original documents when saving creates a backup copy of the file 
in the state when it was opened or when it was saved the last time. It 
is stored in the Backup directory (see section [sec:Paths]) or in the 
same folder as your document if no Backup directory is specified. The 
backup file has the file extension “.lyx~”.


With the option Backup documents, every, you can specify the time 
between backup saves.


Save documents compressed by default always saves files in a compressed 
format (see also section [subsec:Compressed]). This applies to newly 
created documents only. The compression status of existing documents is 
not changed when saving."


Sometimes there is a backup with the ".lyx˜" extension but sometimes 
with the ".lyx#" extension (as in "#filename.lyx#"). Contrary to the 
Guide, it seems as if the latter is the backup created automatically 
every 5 minutes by default. Also, they are not strictly speaking created 
every 5 minutes but only if in addition the document is the active one 
on LyX. That does not seem very safe.


Then I find the ".lyx~" files in my directories. I guess they are 
created when LyX crashes? And maybe also in the case that Kornel 
mentions, if I understood it correctly, i.e. when a document that is 
edited in LyX is changed (externally)?


It's all a bit confusing to me. Why are there different file 
extensions/names? Why does it periodically backup only when the document 
is active? What happens when LyX crashes with documents that have never 
been saved? Are there any backups created?


Daniel

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Re: Empty backup directory

2021-06-26 Thread Paul A. Rubin

On 6/26/21 3:29 AM, Daniel wrote:

Hi,

After installing LyX, the backup directory is empty (Preferences > 
Paths). Does that mean that no backups are created by default or that 
the backups are created even though "Backup documents, every ... 
minutes" is checked (Preferences > Look & Feel > Document Handling) 
(btw. Look & Feel seems a misnomer for backup settings). Or is a 
backup created in the directory of the lyx file (the title bar shows a 
directory even for new not yet saved files, so I suppose these files 
are backup there as well)?


Daniel

My backup directory path is empty and LyX automatically creates backups 
in the document's directory. The backups have the extension .lyx~, so 
they are considered "hidden files" by Mint, Ubuntu and I suspect other 
Linux distros.


Paul

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Re: Empty backup directory

2021-06-26 Thread Kornel Benko
Am Sat, 26 Jun 2021 09:29:29 +0200
schrieb Daniel :

> Hi,
> 
> After installing LyX, the backup directory is empty (Preferences > 
> Paths). Does that mean that no backups are created by default or that 
> the backups are created even though "Backup documents, every ... 
> minutes" is checked (Preferences > Look & Feel > Document Handling) 
> (btw. Look & Feel seems a misnomer for backup settings). Or is a backup 
> created in the directory of the lyx file (the title bar shows a 
> directory even for new not yet saved files, so I suppose these files are 
> backup there as well)?
> 
> Daniel
> 

From what I understand, backups are created iff a lyx file changes while
edited by lyx.

Kornel


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Empty backup directory

2021-06-26 Thread Daniel

Hi,

After installing LyX, the backup directory is empty (Preferences > 
Paths). Does that mean that no backups are created by default or that 
the backups are created even though "Backup documents, every ... 
minutes" is checked (Preferences > Look & Feel > Document Handling) 
(btw. Look & Feel seems a misnomer for backup settings). Or is a backup 
created in the directory of the lyx file (the title bar shows a 
directory even for new not yet saved files, so I suppose these files are 
backup there as well)?


Daniel

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