Re: new documents always have change-tracking on

2014-11-17 Thread Mark Bravington
 Stephan Witt st.witt at gmx.net writes:

 
 Am 17.11.2014 um 04:37 schrieb Mark Bravington mark.bravington at
csiro.au:
 
  Lyx 2.1.2 on Windows 7: When I do File/New document, it opens up with
  change-tracking switched on

 You've saved this state with your document defaults.
 
 To get rid of it you may disable change tracking in a new document
 and in document preferences save this document as default again.
 
 Stephan

Thanks, that solves it.

It does seem a bit odd that change-tracking status can be a document
default, since all the other things on the document-settings page are
output-related--- but maybe there's nowhere else that's more appropriate.

Mark




Re: new documents always have change-tracking on

2014-11-17 Thread Mark Bravington
 Stephan Witt st.witt at gmx.net writes:

 
 Am 17.11.2014 um 04:37 schrieb Mark Bravington mark.bravington at
csiro.au:
 
  Lyx 2.1.2 on Windows 7: When I do File/New document, it opens up with
  change-tracking switched on

 You've saved this state with your document defaults.
 
 To get rid of it you may disable change tracking in a new document
 and in document preferences save this document as default again.
 
 Stephan

Thanks, that solves it.

It does seem a bit odd that change-tracking status can be a document
default, since all the other things on the document-settings page are
output-related--- but maybe there's nowhere else that's more appropriate.

Mark




Re: new documents always have change-tracking on

2014-11-17 Thread Mark Bravington
> Stephan Witt  gmx.net> writes:

> 
> Am 17.11.2014 um 04:37 schrieb Mark Bravington 
csiro.au>:
> 
> > Lyx 2.1.2 on Windows 7: When I do File/New document, it opens up with
> > change-tracking switched on

> You've saved this state with your document defaults.
> 
> To get rid of it you may disable change tracking in a new document
> and in document preferences save this document as default again.
> 
> Stephan

Thanks, that solves it.

It does seem a bit odd that change-tracking status can be a "document
default", since all the other things on the document-settings page are
output-related--- but maybe there's nowhere else that's more appropriate.

Mark




new documents always have change-tracking on

2014-11-16 Thread Mark Bravington
Lyx 2.1.2 on Windows 7: When I do File/New document, it opens up with
change-tracking switched on, so that I start typing and then have to undo it
and turn off change-tracking and start again. Not life-threatening, but
annoying... and I can't find where to control this behaviour.

If it's not just me, then

 Tools/Preferences/LookFeel/Document handling

could be a good place for a checkbox to turn this off/on for new documents.

Mark



new documents always have change-tracking on

2014-11-16 Thread Mark Bravington
Lyx 2.1.2 on Windows 7: When I do File/New document, it opens up with
change-tracking switched on, so that I start typing and then have to undo it
and turn off change-tracking and start again. Not life-threatening, but
annoying... and I can't find where to control this behaviour.

If it's not just me, then

 Tools/Preferences/LookFeel/Document handling

could be a good place for a checkbox to turn this off/on for new documents.

Mark



new documents always have change-tracking on

2014-11-16 Thread Mark Bravington
Lyx 2.1.2 on Windows 7: When I do File/New document, it opens up with
change-tracking switched on, so that I start typing and then have to undo it
and turn off change-tracking and start again. Not life-threatening, but
annoying... and I can't find where to control this behaviour.

If it's not just me, then

 Tools/Preferences/Look/Document handling

could be a good place for a checkbox to turn this off/on for new documents.

Mark



Re: [correction] LyXWinInstaller for LyX 1.6.0 -- similar for 1.6.8

2010-12-19 Thread Mark Bravington
I'm just going through a similar painful process with Lyx 1.6.8 and
LyxWinInstaller. I certainly appreciate the efforts of the LyxWinInstaller
developers, but I do think there is a big problem with the current version-- and
it doesn't warn you properly.

My story is this. I have existing Lyx 1.6.7 and Miktex installations that work
absolutely fine together. I want to upgrade Lyx to 1.6.8. Because I was worried
that the standard LyX installer might decide to re-install Miktex from scratch
or something like that (I can't remember whether it actually does, but I didn't
want to find out the hard way), I tried WinInstaller instead-- I thought it
would be quicker. Because I hadn't used it before, I chose the Small variant.
The WinInstaller webpage seems to say it won't try to re-install Miktex if it
doesn't have to, but WinInstaller still decided it needed to update 100s of
Miktex packages. From Germany!

(I live in Australia. I have no idea where I last installed Miktex packages
from, so I trusted the box that said use same place as last time (Germany)?...
which it clearly)

It's going to take about 5 hours, and there are scary warnings on this thread
about what will happen if I just stop the process. This time, I'll probably be
lucky: work pays for the download, it's morning so I don't need to turn the
computer off overnight, and the connection probably won't go down over the
5-hour period. None of these need be true if I am at home (so I guess I will
avoid WinInstaller altogether on my home machine). For something this slow, I
don't think just wait until it finishes is OK advice.

From what little I can remember of the last time I installed a new Lyx version
with the standard installer, the whole process was much quicker, whether or not
it actually did re-install Miktex. (It was still slow enough that I wanted an
alternative that didn't fiddle with Miktex, but not this one...)

So... some questions/requests!

Is this extremely slow process going to happen again if I use WinInstaller in
update mode next time?

Is there any way to tell WinInstaller, don't bother to update every single
miktex package ever written-- I'll wait for that to happen during normal Lyx
usage, if  when a package is actually needed? [Since I already had a perfectly
good Miktex installation for my Lyx needs.]

Can the introductory documentation please warn that just saying yes is going
to lead to an incredible delay? [Maybe it's there already, but it wasn't obvious
to me.]

Again, I do appreciate the efforts, and probably there is something simple that
the developers can do to fix it -- but I am currently wishing I hadn't used
WinInstaller!

thanks
Mark Bravington
mark dot bravington at csiro dot au
CSIRO Marine Lab
Hobart
Tas 7001
Australia



Re: [correction] LyXWinInstaller for LyX 1.6.0 -- similar for 1.6.8

2010-12-19 Thread Mark Bravington
I'm just going through a similar painful process with Lyx 1.6.8 and
LyxWinInstaller. I certainly appreciate the efforts of the LyxWinInstaller
developers, but I do think there is a big problem with the current version-- and
it doesn't warn you properly.

My story is this. I have existing Lyx 1.6.7 and Miktex installations that work
absolutely fine together. I want to upgrade Lyx to 1.6.8. Because I was worried
that the standard LyX installer might decide to re-install Miktex from scratch
or something like that (I can't remember whether it actually does, but I didn't
want to find out the hard way), I tried WinInstaller instead-- I thought it
would be quicker. Because I hadn't used it before, I chose the Small variant.
The WinInstaller webpage seems to say it won't try to re-install Miktex if it
doesn't have to, but WinInstaller still decided it needed to update 100s of
Miktex packages. From Germany!

(I live in Australia. I have no idea where I last installed Miktex packages
from, so I trusted the box that said use same place as last time (Germany)?...
which it clearly)

It's going to take about 5 hours, and there are scary warnings on this thread
about what will happen if I just stop the process. This time, I'll probably be
lucky: work pays for the download, it's morning so I don't need to turn the
computer off overnight, and the connection probably won't go down over the
5-hour period. None of these need be true if I am at home (so I guess I will
avoid WinInstaller altogether on my home machine). For something this slow, I
don't think just wait until it finishes is OK advice.

From what little I can remember of the last time I installed a new Lyx version
with the standard installer, the whole process was much quicker, whether or not
it actually did re-install Miktex. (It was still slow enough that I wanted an
alternative that didn't fiddle with Miktex, but not this one...)

So... some questions/requests!

Is this extremely slow process going to happen again if I use WinInstaller in
update mode next time?

Is there any way to tell WinInstaller, don't bother to update every single
miktex package ever written-- I'll wait for that to happen during normal Lyx
usage, if  when a package is actually needed? [Since I already had a perfectly
good Miktex installation for my Lyx needs.]

Can the introductory documentation please warn that just saying yes is going
to lead to an incredible delay? [Maybe it's there already, but it wasn't obvious
to me.]

Again, I do appreciate the efforts, and probably there is something simple that
the developers can do to fix it -- but I am currently wishing I hadn't used
WinInstaller!

thanks
Mark Bravington
mark dot bravington at csiro dot au
CSIRO Marine Lab
Hobart
Tas 7001
Australia



Re: [correction] LyXWinInstaller for LyX 1.6.0 -- similar for 1.6.8

2010-12-19 Thread Mark Bravington
I'm just going through a similar painful process with Lyx 1.6.8 and
LyxWinInstaller. I certainly appreciate the efforts of the LyxWinInstaller
developers, but I do think there is a big problem with the current version-- and
it doesn't warn you properly.

My story is this. I have existing Lyx 1.6.7 and Miktex installations that work
absolutely fine together. I want to upgrade Lyx to 1.6.8. Because I was worried
that the standard LyX installer might decide to re-install Miktex from scratch
or something like that (I can't remember whether it actually does, but I didn't
want to find out the hard way), I tried WinInstaller instead-- I thought it
would be quicker. Because I hadn't used it before, I chose the "Small" variant.
The WinInstaller webpage seems to say it won't try to re-install Miktex if it
doesn't have to, but WinInstaller still decided it needed to update 100s of
Miktex packages. From Germany!

(I live in Australia. I have no idea where I last installed Miktex packages
from, so I trusted the box that said "use same place as last time (Germany)?"...
which it clearly)

It's going to take about 5 hours, and there are scary warnings on this thread
about what will happen if I just stop the process. This time, I'll probably be
lucky: work pays for the download, it's morning so I don't need to turn the
computer off overnight, and the connection probably won't go down over the
5-hour period. None of these need be true if I am at home (so I guess I will
avoid WinInstaller altogether on my home machine). For something this slow, I
don't think "just wait until it finishes" is OK advice.

>From what little I can remember of the last time I installed a new Lyx version
with the standard installer, the whole process was much quicker, whether or not
it actually did re-install Miktex. (It was still slow enough that I wanted an
alternative that didn't fiddle with Miktex, but not this one...)

So... some questions/requests!

Is this extremely slow process going to happen again if I use WinInstaller in
"update" mode next time?

Is there any way to tell WinInstaller, "don't bother to update every single
miktex package ever written-- I'll wait for that to happen during normal Lyx
usage, if & when a package is actually needed"? [Since I already had a perfectly
good Miktex installation for my Lyx needs.]

Can the introductory documentation please warn that "just saying yes" is going
to lead to an incredible delay? [Maybe it's there already, but it wasn't obvious
to me.]

Again, I do appreciate the efforts, and probably there is something simple that
the developers can do to fix it -- but I am currently wishing I hadn't used
WinInstaller!

thanks
Mark Bravington
mark dot bravington at csiro dot au
CSIRO Marine Lab
Hobart
Tas 7001
Australia