Re: 1.3.6pre and 1.4 windows
samar j. singh wrote: I have however the problem that when I set the viewer for pdflatex which lies within Program Files, the View PDFlatex option comes up with an error message saying that it could not find the viewer in C:/Program. Hence, the file name appears to stop at the blank space. Am I doing something wrong, and is there a workaround, if I am not? You're doing nothing wrong, but you have discovered a bug. See http://article.gmane.org/gmane.editors.lyx.devel:46643 for both the workaround and for the description of the bug. I suspect that the bug will not be squashed for LyX 1.3.6 (too much potential to break too many other things) but the workaround is the better solution anyway. -- Angus
Re: 1.3.6pre and 1.4 windows
On Sunday 10 July 2005 06:15, Angus Leeming wrote: samar j. singh wrote: I have however the problem that when I set the viewer for pdflatex which lies within Program Files, the View PDFlatex option comes up with an error message saying that it could not find the viewer in C:/Program. Hence, the file name appears to stop at the blank space. Am I doing something wrong, and is there a workaround, if I am not? You're doing nothing wrong, but you have discovered a bug. See http://article.gmane.org/gmane.editors.lyx.devel:46643 for both the workaround and for the description of the bug. I suspect that the bug will not be squashed for LyX 1.3.6 (too much potential to break too many other things) but the workaround is the better solution anyway. Angus Thanks for that. Yes, I have implemented the path option and that seems to be an adequate workaround. I only use windows as a fall back as it is on my laptop so personally, this is adequate. I have no such problems on my linux desktop. samar
Re: 1.3.6pre and 1.4 windows
samar j. singh wrote: I have however the problem that when I set the viewer for pdflatex which lies within Program Files, the View PDFlatex option comes up with an error message saying that it could not find the viewer in C:/Program. Hence, the file name appears to stop at the blank space. Am I doing something wrong, and is there a workaround, if I am not? You're doing nothing wrong, but you have discovered a bug. See http://article.gmane.org/gmane.editors.lyx.devel:46643 for both the workaround and for the description of the bug. I suspect that the bug will not be squashed for LyX 1.3.6 (too much potential to break too many other things) but the workaround is the better solution anyway. -- Angus
Re: 1.3.6pre and 1.4 windows
On Sunday 10 July 2005 06:15, Angus Leeming wrote: samar j. singh wrote: I have however the problem that when I set the viewer for pdflatex which lies within Program Files, the View PDFlatex option comes up with an error message saying that it could not find the viewer in C:/Program. Hence, the file name appears to stop at the blank space. Am I doing something wrong, and is there a workaround, if I am not? You're doing nothing wrong, but you have discovered a bug. See http://article.gmane.org/gmane.editors.lyx.devel:46643 for both the workaround and for the description of the bug. I suspect that the bug will not be squashed for LyX 1.3.6 (too much potential to break too many other things) but the workaround is the better solution anyway. Angus Thanks for that. Yes, I have implemented the path option and that seems to be an adequate workaround. I only use windows as a fall back as it is on my laptop so personally, this is adequate. I have no such problems on my linux desktop. samar
Re: 1.3.6pre and 1.4 windows
samar j. singh wrote: > I have however the problem that when I set the viewer for pdflatex which > lies within Program Files, the View > PDFlatex option comes up with an > error message saying that it could not find the viewer in C:/Program. > Hence, the file name appears to stop at the blank space. > > Am I doing something wrong, and is there a workaround, if I am not? You're doing nothing wrong, but you have discovered a bug. See http://article.gmane.org/gmane.editors.lyx.devel:46643 for both the workaround and for the description of the bug. I suspect that the bug will not be squashed for LyX 1.3.6 (too much potential to break too many other things) but the workaround is the better solution anyway. -- Angus
Re: 1.3.6pre and 1.4 windows
On Sunday 10 July 2005 06:15, Angus Leeming wrote: > samar j. singh wrote: > > I have however the problem that when I set the viewer for pdflatex which > > lies within Program Files, the View > PDFlatex option comes up with an > > error message saying that it could not find the viewer in C:/Program. > > Hence, the file name appears to stop at the blank space. > > > > Am I doing something wrong, and is there a workaround, if I am not? > > You're doing nothing wrong, but you have discovered a bug. See > http://article.gmane.org/gmane.editors.lyx.devel:46643 for both the > workaround and for the description of the bug. > > I suspect that the bug will not be squashed for LyX 1.3.6 (too much > potential to break too many other things) but the workaround is the better > solution anyway. Angus Thanks for that. Yes, I have implemented the path option and that seems to be an adequate workaround. I only use windows as a fall back as it is on my laptop so personally, this is adequate. I have no such problems on my linux desktop. samar
Re: 1.3.6pre and 1.4 windows
On Friday 08 July 2005 17:33, Angus Leeming wrote: That's why I say on the wiki: ...LyX 1.3.6 cannot really be classified as a minor bug fix release, especially for Windows users. Large chunks of the code base have been touched in an attempt to resolve those problems that Windows users have found with Ruurd’s original ports. We feel confident that LyX 1.3.6 will be the best ever version of LyX on Windows. We are not confident, however, that we haven’t introduced any new bugs. Regards, Angus In response to that stirring confidence, I have with great temerity setup Lyx on my windows laptop. Undoubtedly it is a great advance over Ruuards port, which was a great advance on the Cygwin altenative. I have however the problem that when I set the viewer for pdflatex which lies within Program Files, the View PDFlatex option comes up with an error message saying that it could not find the viewer in C:/Program. Hence, the file name appears to stop at the blank space. Am I doing something wrong, and is there a workaround, if I am not? Have already tried to put a shortcut to the C directory but it does not have the intended effect. TIA samar
Re: 1.3.6pre and 1.4 windows
samar j. singh wrote: In response to that stirring confidence, I have with great temerity setup Lyx on my windows laptop. Undoubtedly it is a great advance over Ruuards port, which was a great advance on the Cygwin altenative. I have however the problem that when I set the viewer for pdflatex which lies within Program Files, the View PDFlatex option comes up with an error message saying that it could not find the viewer in C:/Program. Hence, the file name appears to stop at the blank space. Am I doing something wrong, and is there a workaround, if I am not? Have already tried to put a shortcut to the C directory but it does not have the intended effect. TIA Is Acrobat Reader your viewer? If so, you should be able to fill in Edit | Preferences | File formats | PDF | Viewer with just 'acrord32' and click Modify, then do the same for PDF (dvipdfm) and PDF (pdflatex). If, for some reason, that doesn't work, then try typing in the full path surrounded by double quotes, e.g. C:\Program Files\Adobe\Acrobat 7.0\Reader\AcroRd32.exe -- Paul
Re: 1.3.6pre and 1.4 windows
samar j. singh wrote: In response to that stirring confidence, I have with great temerity setup Lyx on my windows laptop. Undoubtedly it is a great advance over Ruuards port, which was a great advance on the Cygwin altenative. I have however the problem that when I set the viewer for pdflatex which lies within Program Files, the View PDFlatex option comes up with an error message saying that it could not find the viewer in C:/Program. Hence, the file name appears to stop at the blank space. Am I doing something wrong, and is there a workaround, if I am not? Have already tried to put a shortcut to the C directory but it does not have the intended effect. TIA Is Acrobat Reader your viewer? If so, you should be able to fill in Edit | Preferences | File formats | PDF | Viewer with just 'acrord32' and click Modify, then do the same for PDF (dvipdfm) and PDF (pdflatex). If, for some reason, that doesn't work, then try typing in the full path surrounded by double quotes, e.g. C:\Program Files\Adobe\Acrobat 7.0\Reader\AcroRd32.exe -- Paul Hi Paul Many thanks indeed for that quick response. I had already tried just putting in AcroRd32.exe which I think is on the Path. However, could not seem to get it to work as it wanted to look in C for it. However, putting quotes on either side of the FSP did the trick. Interestingly this sort of change does not require reconfiguring. Do you think this is something obvious for most people - other than yours truly - or should we have it in the section on the wiki that deals with installing this version of LyxWin? samar
Re: 1.3.6pre and 1.4 windows
samar wrote: Many thanks indeed for that quick response. I had already tried just putting in AcroRd32.exe which I think is on the Path. However, could not seem to get it to work as it wanted to look in C for it. However, putting quotes on either side of the FSP did the trick. Interestingly this sort of change does not require reconfiguring. Do you think this is something obvious for most people - other than yours truly - or should we have it in the section on the wiki that deals with installing this version of LyxWin? It seems to me that questions about viewing PDFs come up periodically, but usually from people who don't know they need to go to the file formats section and fill in the viewer entries. I don't recall the business of the space in the path coming up much, but then my memory's not trustworthy. In any case, it's liable to come up more often when versions 1.3.6 and then 1.4 hatch, because they will allow users to work directly from source documents under My Documents, which I suspect will desensitize Windows users to the general issue of spaces in the path. I've added a blurb near the bottom of http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/WindowsSetup describing this. Feel free to edit it if you find it less than clear (or, worse, inaccurate). -- Paul
Re: 1.3.6pre and 1.4 windows
- Original Message - From: Paul A. Rubin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 12:23 PM Subject: Re: 1.3.6pre and 1.4 windows samar wrote: Many thanks indeed for that quick response. I had already tried just putting in AcroRd32.exe which I think is on the Path. However, could not seem to get it to work as it wanted to look in C for it. However, putting quotes on either side of the FSP did the trick. Interestingly this sort of change does not require reconfiguring. Do you think this is something obvious for most people - other than yours truly - or should we have it in the section on the wiki that deals with installing this version of LyxWin? It seems to me that questions about viewing PDFs come up periodically, but usually from people who don't know they need to go to the file formats section and fill in the viewer entries. I don't recall the business of the space in the path coming up much, but then my memory's not trustworthy. In any case, it's liable to come up more often when versions 1.3.6 and then 1.4 hatch, because they will allow users to work directly from source documents under My Documents, which I suspect will desensitize Windows users to the general issue of spaces in the path. I've added a blurb near the bottom of http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/WindowsSetup describing this. Feel free to edit it if you find it less than clear (or, worse, inaccurate). -- Paul I changed this pdf format viewer with C:\Program Files\Adobe\Acrobat 7.0\Acrobat\acrobat.exe EDit -- Preferences -- modify --apply --save and it fails to stick using 1.3.6pre (I think 18 or 19) when I reopen Lyx it is blank. However it does seem to save acrobat or acrobat.exe without quotes. I did not change the folling two at all, is it required? Then do the same for PDF (dvipdfm) and PDF (pdflatex). I thought the instructions (LyX/WindowsSetup) were quite clear, Stephen
Re: 1.3.6pre and 1.4 windows
On Saturday 09 July 2005 15:23, Paul A. Rubin wrote: samar wrote: However, putting quotes on either side of the FSP did the trick. Interestingly this sort of change does not require reconfiguring. Do you think this is something obvious for most people - other than yours truly - or should we have it in the section on the wiki that deals with installing this version of LyxWin? It seems to me that questions about viewing PDFs come up periodically, but usually from people who don't know they need to go to the file formats section and fill in the viewer entries. I don't recall the business of the space in the path coming up much, but then my memory's not trustworthy. In any case, it's liable to come up more often when versions 1.3.6 and then 1.4 hatch, because they will allow users to work directly from source documents under My Documents, which I suspect will desensitize Windows users to the general issue of spaces in the path. I've added a blurb near the bottom of http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/WindowsSetup describing this. Feel free to edit it if you find it less than clear (or, worse, inaccurate). -- Paul I have had a look through it and its seems fine to me. samar
Re: 1.3.6pre and 1.4 windows
samar wrote: Many thanks indeed for that quick response. I had already tried just putting in AcroRd32.exe which I think is on the Path. However, could not seem to get it to work as it wanted to look in C for it. However, putting quotes on either side of the FSP did the trick. Interestingly this sort of change does not require reconfiguring. Do you think this is something obvious for most people - other than yours truly - or should we have it in the section on the wiki that deals with installing this version of LyxWin? It seems to me that questions about viewing PDFs come up periodically, but usually from people who don't know they need to go to the file formats section and fill in the viewer entries. I don't recall the business of the space in the path coming up much, but then my memory's not trustworthy. In any case, it's liable to come up more often when versions 1.3.6 and then 1.4 hatch, because they will allow users to work directly from source documents under My Documents, which I suspect will desensitize Windows users to the general issue of spaces in the path. I've added a blurb near the bottom of http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/WindowsSetup describing this. Feel free to edit it if you find it less than clear (or, worse, inaccurate). -- Paul I changed this pdf format viewer with C:\Program Files\Adobe\Acrobat 7.0\Acrobat\acrobat.exe EDit -- Preferences -- modify --apply --save and it fails to stick using 1.3.6pre (I think 18 or 19) when I reopen Lyx it is blank. However it does seem to save acrobat or acrobat.exe without quotes. I did not change the folling two at all, is it required? Then do the same for PDF (dvipdfm) and PDF (pdflatex). I thought the instructions (LyX/WindowsSetup) were quite clear, Stephen Just a guess but I seem to remember that after you press modify another file format jumps into place. This means that we might not be saving or applying the filename entered. I would recommend checking that after you have pressed modify, the Pdflatex entry is brought back in the File Formats window. After that the save button should be pressed. If you dont need to use anything other than pdflatex for View, then you dont need to fill in the other boxes. Hope this helps samar
Re: 1.3.6pre and 1.4 windows
On Sat, Jul 09, 2005 at 01:02:32PM -0700, Stephen P. Harris wrote: I changed this pdf format viewer with C:\Program Files\Adobe\Acrobat 7.0\Acrobat\acrobat.exe EDit -- Preferences -- modify --apply --save and it fails to stick using 1.3.6pre (I think 18 or 19) when I reopen Lyx it is blank. However it does seem to save acrobat or acrobat.exe without quotes. I did not change the folling two at all, is it required? Then do the same for PDF (dvipdfm) and PDF (pdflatex). Not required, but useful. Please note that lyx have three different ways of generating PDF files. You can specify separate viewers for each conversion - for some reason. Specifying exactly the same viewer in all three cases is the done thing, donæ't know why the option for separate viewers exists for what it essentially the same thing. The three vays: 1. (export l�atex, run latex, run dvips, convert postscript to pdf) This way is the slowest but most common. You need a ps to pdf converter, in addition to latex itself. This way is probably common because: a) it is the first alternative b) it uses exactly the same software as the file-print menu. 2. (export latex, run latex, convert dvi to pdf directly using dvipdfm) Slightly faster because it skips one step. You need dvipdfm in addition to latex itself. 3. (export latex, run pdflatex which produce a pdf directly from the latex file.) This is substantially faster than the two other ways. You need the pdflatex program, which exists in most latex distributions. Why have three ways? Some people prefer one, some another. Some people don't have all of them. Extra latex fonts and images may be handled in different ways. If you have problems producing a pdf one way - try another and it might work out better. dvipdfm caused problems for me, I got a pdf that wouldn�'t load in the acroread on windows! Helge Hafting
Re: 1.3.6pre and 1.4 windows
- Original Message - From: Paul A. Rubin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 12:23 PM Subject: Re: 1.3.6pre and 1.4 windows It seems to me that questions about viewing PDFs come up periodically, but usually from people who don't know they need to go to the file formats section and fill in the viewer entries. I don't recall the business of the space in the path coming up much, but then my memory's not trustworthy. In any case, it's liable to come up more often when versions 1.3.6 and then 1.4 hatch, because they will allow users to work directly from source documents under My Documents, which I suspect will desensitize Windows users to the general issue of spaces in the path. I've added a blurb near the bottom of http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/WindowsSetup describing this. Feel free to edit it if you find it less than clear (or, worse, inaccurate). -- Paul This works a bit curiously in 1.3.6pre. Pdf = acrobat will bring up the doc at half-page size. Pdflatex will also bring up the document in half-page size. If the full path to acrobat.exe is entered in quotes, C:\Program Files\Adobe\Acrobat 7.0\Acrobat\acrobat.exe The save will not take effect and next time one opens Lyx the viewer field is blank. But then pdflatex defualts to acrobat as long as acrobat was in the pdf field. There is the pdfview.cmd bat file: START /max Acrobat.exe %1 exit This works to open the pdf file full-page size. In the pdf (dvipdfm) field both pdfview.cmd and c:\LyX\bin\pdfview.com are equivalent and bring up the pdf doc in full-page size. At the same time pdflatex using acrobat will bring up the same doc in half-page size. And finally, if c:\lyx\bin\pdfview.cmd is put in quotes, modified, applied, saved, closed and re-opened the field is blank and reverts to acrobat in half-page size. I don't think pdfview.cmd can be located in a Path which contains a space. Regards, Stephen
Re: 1.3.6pre and 1.4 windows
I've added a blurb near the bottom of http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/WindowsSetup describing this. Feel free to edit it if you find it less than clear (or, worse, inaccurate). -- Paul This works a bit curiously in 1.3.6pre. Pdf = acrobat will bring up the doc at half-page size. Pdflatex will also bring up the document in half-page size. If the full path to acrobat.exe is entered in quotes, C:\Program Files\Adobe\Acrobat 7.0\Acrobat\acrobat.exe The save will not take effect and next time one opens Lyx the viewer field is blank. But then pdflatex defualts to acrobat as long as acrobat was in the pdf field. There is the pdfview.cmd bat file: START /max Acrobat.exe %1 exit This works to open the pdf file full-page size. In the pdf (dvipdfm) field both pdfview.cmd and c:\LyX\bin\pdfview.com are equivalent and bring up the pdf doc in full-page size. At the same time pdflatex using acrobat will bring up the same doc in half-page size. And finally, if c:\lyx\bin\pdfview.cmd is put in quotes, modified, applied, saved, closed and re-opened the field is blank and reverts to acrobat in half-page size. I don't think pdfview.cmd can be located in a Path which contains a space. Regards, Stephen Yes, I agree that the full file path spec is not saved. I am not entirely sure that this is not a bug that needs to be sorted out, and Angus may have views on that. In point of fact, the process of reconfiguring kills that entry. samar
Re: 1.3.6pre and 1.4 windows
On Friday 08 July 2005 17:33, Angus Leeming wrote: That's why I say on the wiki: ...LyX 1.3.6 cannot really be classified as a minor bug fix release, especially for Windows users. Large chunks of the code base have been touched in an attempt to resolve those problems that Windows users have found with Ruurd’s original ports. We feel confident that LyX 1.3.6 will be the best ever version of LyX on Windows. We are not confident, however, that we haven’t introduced any new bugs. Regards, Angus In response to that stirring confidence, I have with great temerity setup Lyx on my windows laptop. Undoubtedly it is a great advance over Ruuards port, which was a great advance on the Cygwin altenative. I have however the problem that when I set the viewer for pdflatex which lies within Program Files, the View PDFlatex option comes up with an error message saying that it could not find the viewer in C:/Program. Hence, the file name appears to stop at the blank space. Am I doing something wrong, and is there a workaround, if I am not? Have already tried to put a shortcut to the C directory but it does not have the intended effect. TIA samar
Re: 1.3.6pre and 1.4 windows
samar j. singh wrote: In response to that stirring confidence, I have with great temerity setup Lyx on my windows laptop. Undoubtedly it is a great advance over Ruuards port, which was a great advance on the Cygwin altenative. I have however the problem that when I set the viewer for pdflatex which lies within Program Files, the View PDFlatex option comes up with an error message saying that it could not find the viewer in C:/Program. Hence, the file name appears to stop at the blank space. Am I doing something wrong, and is there a workaround, if I am not? Have already tried to put a shortcut to the C directory but it does not have the intended effect. TIA Is Acrobat Reader your viewer? If so, you should be able to fill in Edit | Preferences | File formats | PDF | Viewer with just 'acrord32' and click Modify, then do the same for PDF (dvipdfm) and PDF (pdflatex). If, for some reason, that doesn't work, then try typing in the full path surrounded by double quotes, e.g. C:\Program Files\Adobe\Acrobat 7.0\Reader\AcroRd32.exe -- Paul
Re: 1.3.6pre and 1.4 windows
samar j. singh wrote: In response to that stirring confidence, I have with great temerity setup Lyx on my windows laptop. Undoubtedly it is a great advance over Ruuards port, which was a great advance on the Cygwin altenative. I have however the problem that when I set the viewer for pdflatex which lies within Program Files, the View PDFlatex option comes up with an error message saying that it could not find the viewer in C:/Program. Hence, the file name appears to stop at the blank space. Am I doing something wrong, and is there a workaround, if I am not? Have already tried to put a shortcut to the C directory but it does not have the intended effect. TIA Is Acrobat Reader your viewer? If so, you should be able to fill in Edit | Preferences | File formats | PDF | Viewer with just 'acrord32' and click Modify, then do the same for PDF (dvipdfm) and PDF (pdflatex). If, for some reason, that doesn't work, then try typing in the full path surrounded by double quotes, e.g. C:\Program Files\Adobe\Acrobat 7.0\Reader\AcroRd32.exe -- Paul Hi Paul Many thanks indeed for that quick response. I had already tried just putting in AcroRd32.exe which I think is on the Path. However, could not seem to get it to work as it wanted to look in C for it. However, putting quotes on either side of the FSP did the trick. Interestingly this sort of change does not require reconfiguring. Do you think this is something obvious for most people - other than yours truly - or should we have it in the section on the wiki that deals with installing this version of LyxWin? samar
Re: 1.3.6pre and 1.4 windows
samar wrote: Many thanks indeed for that quick response. I had already tried just putting in AcroRd32.exe which I think is on the Path. However, could not seem to get it to work as it wanted to look in C for it. However, putting quotes on either side of the FSP did the trick. Interestingly this sort of change does not require reconfiguring. Do you think this is something obvious for most people - other than yours truly - or should we have it in the section on the wiki that deals with installing this version of LyxWin? It seems to me that questions about viewing PDFs come up periodically, but usually from people who don't know they need to go to the file formats section and fill in the viewer entries. I don't recall the business of the space in the path coming up much, but then my memory's not trustworthy. In any case, it's liable to come up more often when versions 1.3.6 and then 1.4 hatch, because they will allow users to work directly from source documents under My Documents, which I suspect will desensitize Windows users to the general issue of spaces in the path. I've added a blurb near the bottom of http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/WindowsSetup describing this. Feel free to edit it if you find it less than clear (or, worse, inaccurate). -- Paul
Re: 1.3.6pre and 1.4 windows
- Original Message - From: Paul A. Rubin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 12:23 PM Subject: Re: 1.3.6pre and 1.4 windows samar wrote: Many thanks indeed for that quick response. I had already tried just putting in AcroRd32.exe which I think is on the Path. However, could not seem to get it to work as it wanted to look in C for it. However, putting quotes on either side of the FSP did the trick. Interestingly this sort of change does not require reconfiguring. Do you think this is something obvious for most people - other than yours truly - or should we have it in the section on the wiki that deals with installing this version of LyxWin? It seems to me that questions about viewing PDFs come up periodically, but usually from people who don't know they need to go to the file formats section and fill in the viewer entries. I don't recall the business of the space in the path coming up much, but then my memory's not trustworthy. In any case, it's liable to come up more often when versions 1.3.6 and then 1.4 hatch, because they will allow users to work directly from source documents under My Documents, which I suspect will desensitize Windows users to the general issue of spaces in the path. I've added a blurb near the bottom of http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/WindowsSetup describing this. Feel free to edit it if you find it less than clear (or, worse, inaccurate). -- Paul I changed this pdf format viewer with C:\Program Files\Adobe\Acrobat 7.0\Acrobat\acrobat.exe EDit -- Preferences -- modify --apply --save and it fails to stick using 1.3.6pre (I think 18 or 19) when I reopen Lyx it is blank. However it does seem to save acrobat or acrobat.exe without quotes. I did not change the folling two at all, is it required? Then do the same for PDF (dvipdfm) and PDF (pdflatex). I thought the instructions (LyX/WindowsSetup) were quite clear, Stephen
Re: 1.3.6pre and 1.4 windows
On Saturday 09 July 2005 15:23, Paul A. Rubin wrote: samar wrote: However, putting quotes on either side of the FSP did the trick. Interestingly this sort of change does not require reconfiguring. Do you think this is something obvious for most people - other than yours truly - or should we have it in the section on the wiki that deals with installing this version of LyxWin? It seems to me that questions about viewing PDFs come up periodically, but usually from people who don't know they need to go to the file formats section and fill in the viewer entries. I don't recall the business of the space in the path coming up much, but then my memory's not trustworthy. In any case, it's liable to come up more often when versions 1.3.6 and then 1.4 hatch, because they will allow users to work directly from source documents under My Documents, which I suspect will desensitize Windows users to the general issue of spaces in the path. I've added a blurb near the bottom of http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/WindowsSetup describing this. Feel free to edit it if you find it less than clear (or, worse, inaccurate). -- Paul I have had a look through it and its seems fine to me. samar
Re: 1.3.6pre and 1.4 windows
samar wrote: Many thanks indeed for that quick response. I had already tried just putting in AcroRd32.exe which I think is on the Path. However, could not seem to get it to work as it wanted to look in C for it. However, putting quotes on either side of the FSP did the trick. Interestingly this sort of change does not require reconfiguring. Do you think this is something obvious for most people - other than yours truly - or should we have it in the section on the wiki that deals with installing this version of LyxWin? It seems to me that questions about viewing PDFs come up periodically, but usually from people who don't know they need to go to the file formats section and fill in the viewer entries. I don't recall the business of the space in the path coming up much, but then my memory's not trustworthy. In any case, it's liable to come up more often when versions 1.3.6 and then 1.4 hatch, because they will allow users to work directly from source documents under My Documents, which I suspect will desensitize Windows users to the general issue of spaces in the path. I've added a blurb near the bottom of http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/WindowsSetup describing this. Feel free to edit it if you find it less than clear (or, worse, inaccurate). -- Paul I changed this pdf format viewer with C:\Program Files\Adobe\Acrobat 7.0\Acrobat\acrobat.exe EDit -- Preferences -- modify --apply --save and it fails to stick using 1.3.6pre (I think 18 or 19) when I reopen Lyx it is blank. However it does seem to save acrobat or acrobat.exe without quotes. I did not change the folling two at all, is it required? Then do the same for PDF (dvipdfm) and PDF (pdflatex). I thought the instructions (LyX/WindowsSetup) were quite clear, Stephen Just a guess but I seem to remember that after you press modify another file format jumps into place. This means that we might not be saving or applying the filename entered. I would recommend checking that after you have pressed modify, the Pdflatex entry is brought back in the File Formats window. After that the save button should be pressed. If you dont need to use anything other than pdflatex for View, then you dont need to fill in the other boxes. Hope this helps samar
Re: 1.3.6pre and 1.4 windows
On Sat, Jul 09, 2005 at 01:02:32PM -0700, Stephen P. Harris wrote: I changed this pdf format viewer with C:\Program Files\Adobe\Acrobat 7.0\Acrobat\acrobat.exe EDit -- Preferences -- modify --apply --save and it fails to stick using 1.3.6pre (I think 18 or 19) when I reopen Lyx it is blank. However it does seem to save acrobat or acrobat.exe without quotes. I did not change the folling two at all, is it required? Then do the same for PDF (dvipdfm) and PDF (pdflatex). Not required, but useful. Please note that lyx have three different ways of generating PDF files. You can specify separate viewers for each conversion - for some reason. Specifying exactly the same viewer in all three cases is the done thing, donæ't know why the option for separate viewers exists for what it essentially the same thing. The three vays: 1. (export l�atex, run latex, run dvips, convert postscript to pdf) This way is the slowest but most common. You need a ps to pdf converter, in addition to latex itself. This way is probably common because: a) it is the first alternative b) it uses exactly the same software as the file-print menu. 2. (export latex, run latex, convert dvi to pdf directly using dvipdfm) Slightly faster because it skips one step. You need dvipdfm in addition to latex itself. 3. (export latex, run pdflatex which produce a pdf directly from the latex file.) This is substantially faster than the two other ways. You need the pdflatex program, which exists in most latex distributions. Why have three ways? Some people prefer one, some another. Some people don't have all of them. Extra latex fonts and images may be handled in different ways. If you have problems producing a pdf one way - try another and it might work out better. dvipdfm caused problems for me, I got a pdf that wouldn�'t load in the acroread on windows! Helge Hafting
Re: 1.3.6pre and 1.4 windows
- Original Message - From: Paul A. Rubin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 12:23 PM Subject: Re: 1.3.6pre and 1.4 windows It seems to me that questions about viewing PDFs come up periodically, but usually from people who don't know they need to go to the file formats section and fill in the viewer entries. I don't recall the business of the space in the path coming up much, but then my memory's not trustworthy. In any case, it's liable to come up more often when versions 1.3.6 and then 1.4 hatch, because they will allow users to work directly from source documents under My Documents, which I suspect will desensitize Windows users to the general issue of spaces in the path. I've added a blurb near the bottom of http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/WindowsSetup describing this. Feel free to edit it if you find it less than clear (or, worse, inaccurate). -- Paul This works a bit curiously in 1.3.6pre. Pdf = acrobat will bring up the doc at half-page size. Pdflatex will also bring up the document in half-page size. If the full path to acrobat.exe is entered in quotes, C:\Program Files\Adobe\Acrobat 7.0\Acrobat\acrobat.exe The save will not take effect and next time one opens Lyx the viewer field is blank. But then pdflatex defualts to acrobat as long as acrobat was in the pdf field. There is the pdfview.cmd bat file: START /max Acrobat.exe %1 exit This works to open the pdf file full-page size. In the pdf (dvipdfm) field both pdfview.cmd and c:\LyX\bin\pdfview.com are equivalent and bring up the pdf doc in full-page size. At the same time pdflatex using acrobat will bring up the same doc in half-page size. And finally, if c:\lyx\bin\pdfview.cmd is put in quotes, modified, applied, saved, closed and re-opened the field is blank and reverts to acrobat in half-page size. I don't think pdfview.cmd can be located in a Path which contains a space. Regards, Stephen
Re: 1.3.6pre and 1.4 windows
I've added a blurb near the bottom of http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/WindowsSetup describing this. Feel free to edit it if you find it less than clear (or, worse, inaccurate). -- Paul This works a bit curiously in 1.3.6pre. Pdf = acrobat will bring up the doc at half-page size. Pdflatex will also bring up the document in half-page size. If the full path to acrobat.exe is entered in quotes, C:\Program Files\Adobe\Acrobat 7.0\Acrobat\acrobat.exe The save will not take effect and next time one opens Lyx the viewer field is blank. But then pdflatex defualts to acrobat as long as acrobat was in the pdf field. There is the pdfview.cmd bat file: START /max Acrobat.exe %1 exit This works to open the pdf file full-page size. In the pdf (dvipdfm) field both pdfview.cmd and c:\LyX\bin\pdfview.com are equivalent and bring up the pdf doc in full-page size. At the same time pdflatex using acrobat will bring up the same doc in half-page size. And finally, if c:\lyx\bin\pdfview.cmd is put in quotes, modified, applied, saved, closed and re-opened the field is blank and reverts to acrobat in half-page size. I don't think pdfview.cmd can be located in a Path which contains a space. Regards, Stephen Yes, I agree that the full file path spec is not saved. I am not entirely sure that this is not a bug that needs to be sorted out, and Angus may have views on that. In point of fact, the process of reconfiguring kills that entry. samar
Re: 1.3.6pre and 1.4 windows
On Friday 08 July 2005 17:33, Angus Leeming wrote: > That's why I say on the wiki: > ...LyX 1.3.6 cannot really be classified as a minor bug fix release, > especially for Windows users. Large chunks of the code base have been > touched in an attempt to resolve those problems that Windows users have > found with Ruurd’s original ports. We feel confident that LyX 1.3.6 will be > the best ever version of LyX on Windows. We are not confident, however, > that we haven’t introduced any new bugs. > > Regards, > Angus In response to that stirring confidence, I have with great temerity setup Lyx on my windows laptop. Undoubtedly it is a great advance over Ruuards port, which was a great advance on the Cygwin altenative. I have however the problem that when I set the viewer for pdflatex which lies within Program Files, the View > PDFlatex option comes up with an error message saying that it could not find the viewer in C:/Program. Hence, the file name appears to stop at the blank space. Am I doing something wrong, and is there a workaround, if I am not? Have already tried to put a shortcut to the C directory but it does not have the intended effect. TIA samar
Re: 1.3.6pre and 1.4 windows
samar j. singh wrote: In response to that stirring confidence, I have with great temerity setup Lyx on my windows laptop. Undoubtedly it is a great advance over Ruuards port, which was a great advance on the Cygwin altenative. I have however the problem that when I set the viewer for pdflatex which lies within Program Files, the View > PDFlatex option comes up with an error message saying that it could not find the viewer in C:/Program. Hence, the file name appears to stop at the blank space. Am I doing something wrong, and is there a workaround, if I am not? Have already tried to put a shortcut to the C directory but it does not have the intended effect. TIA Is Acrobat Reader your viewer? If so, you should be able to fill in Edit | Preferences | File formats | PDF | Viewer with just 'acrord32' and click Modify, then do the same for PDF (dvipdfm) and PDF (pdflatex). If, for some reason, that doesn't work, then try typing in the full path surrounded by double quotes, e.g. "C:\Program Files\Adobe\Acrobat 7.0\Reader\AcroRd32.exe" -- Paul
Re: 1.3.6pre and 1.4 windows
samar j. singh wrote: In response to that stirring confidence, I have with great temerity setup Lyx on my windows laptop. Undoubtedly it is a great advance over Ruuards port, which was a great advance on the Cygwin altenative. I have however the problem that when I set the viewer for pdflatex which lies within Program Files, the View > PDFlatex option comes up with an error message saying that it could not find the viewer in C:/Program. Hence, the file name appears to stop at the blank space. Am I doing something wrong, and is there a workaround, if I am not? Have already tried to put a shortcut to the C directory but it does not have the intended effect. TIA Is Acrobat Reader your viewer? If so, you should be able to fill in Edit | Preferences | File formats | PDF | Viewer with just 'acrord32' and click Modify, then do the same for PDF (dvipdfm) and PDF (pdflatex). If, for some reason, that doesn't work, then try typing in the full path surrounded by double quotes, e.g. "C:\Program Files\Adobe\Acrobat 7.0\Reader\AcroRd32.exe" -- Paul Hi Paul Many thanks indeed for that quick response. I had already tried just putting in AcroRd32.exe which I think is on the Path. However, could not seem to get it to work as it wanted to look in C for it. However, putting quotes on either side of the FSP did the trick. Interestingly this sort of change does not require reconfiguring. Do you think this is something obvious for most people - other than yours truly - or should we have it in the section on the wiki that deals with installing this version of LyxWin? samar
Re: 1.3.6pre and 1.4 windows
samar wrote: Many thanks indeed for that quick response. I had already tried just putting in AcroRd32.exe which I think is on the Path. However, could not seem to get it to work as it wanted to look in C for it. However, putting quotes on either side of the FSP did the trick. Interestingly this sort of change does not require reconfiguring. Do you think this is something obvious for most people - other than yours truly - or should we have it in the section on the wiki that deals with installing this version of LyxWin? It seems to me that questions about viewing PDFs come up periodically, but usually from people who don't know they need to go to the file formats section and fill in the viewer entries. I don't recall the business of the space in the path coming up much, but then my memory's not trustworthy. In any case, it's liable to come up more often when versions 1.3.6 and then 1.4 hatch, because they will allow users to work directly from source documents under My Documents, which I suspect will desensitize Windows users to the general issue of spaces in the path. I've added a blurb near the bottom of http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/WindowsSetup describing this. Feel free to edit it if you find it less than clear (or, worse, inaccurate). -- Paul
Re: 1.3.6pre and 1.4 windows
- Original Message - From: "Paul A. Rubin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <lyx-users@lists.lyx.org> Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 12:23 PM Subject: Re: 1.3.6pre and 1.4 windows samar wrote: Many thanks indeed for that quick response. I had already tried just putting in AcroRd32.exe which I think is on the Path. However, could not seem to get it to work as it wanted to look in C for it. However, putting quotes on either side of the FSP did the trick. Interestingly this sort of change does not require reconfiguring. Do you think this is something obvious for most people - other than yours truly - or should we have it in the section on the wiki that deals with installing this version of LyxWin? It seems to me that questions about viewing PDFs come up periodically, but usually from people who don't know they need to go to the file formats section and fill in the viewer entries. I don't recall the business of the space in the path coming up much, but then my memory's not trustworthy. In any case, it's liable to come up more often when versions 1.3.6 and then 1.4 hatch, because they will allow users to work directly from source documents under My Documents, which I suspect will desensitize Windows users to the general issue of spaces in the path. I've added a blurb near the bottom of http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/WindowsSetup describing this. Feel free to edit it if you find it less than clear (or, worse, inaccurate). -- Paul I changed this pdf format viewer with "C:\Program Files\Adobe\Acrobat 7.0\Acrobat\acrobat.exe" EDit --> Preferences --> modify -->apply -->save and it fails to stick using 1.3.6pre (I think 18 or 19) when I reopen Lyx it is blank. However it does seem to save acrobat or acrobat.exe without quotes. I did not change the folling two at all, is it required? "Then do the same for PDF (dvipdfm) and PDF (pdflatex)." I thought the instructions (LyX/WindowsSetup) were quite clear, Stephen
Re: 1.3.6pre and 1.4 windows
On Saturday 09 July 2005 15:23, Paul A. Rubin wrote: > samar wrote: > > However, putting quotes on either side of the FSP did the trick. > > Interestingly this sort of change does not require reconfiguring. > > > > Do you think this is something obvious for most people - other than > > yours truly - or should we have it in the section on the wiki > > that deals with installing this version of LyxWin? > > It seems to me that questions about viewing PDFs come up periodically, > but usually from people who don't know they need to go to the file > formats section and fill in the viewer entries. I don't recall the > business of the space in the path coming up much, but then my memory's > not trustworthy. In any case, it's liable to come up more often when > versions 1.3.6 and then 1.4 hatch, because they will allow users to work > directly from source documents under My Documents, which I suspect will > desensitize Windows users to the general issue of spaces in the path. > > I've added a blurb near the bottom of > > http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/WindowsSetup > > describing this. Feel free to edit it if you find it less than clear > (or, worse, inaccurate). > > -- Paul I have had a look through it and its seems fine to me. samar
Re: 1.3.6pre and 1.4 windows
samar wrote: Many thanks indeed for that quick response. I had already tried just putting in AcroRd32.exe which I think is on the Path. However, could not seem to get it to work as it wanted to look in C for it. However, putting quotes on either side of the FSP did the trick. Interestingly this sort of change does not require reconfiguring. Do you think this is something obvious for most people - other than yours truly - or should we have it in the section on the wiki that deals with installing this version of LyxWin? It seems to me that questions about viewing PDFs come up periodically, but usually from people who don't know they need to go to the file formats section and fill in the viewer entries. I don't recall the business of the space in the path coming up much, but then my memory's not trustworthy. In any case, it's liable to come up more often when versions 1.3.6 and then 1.4 hatch, because they will allow users to work directly from source documents under My Documents, which I suspect will desensitize Windows users to the general issue of spaces in the path. I've added a blurb near the bottom of http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/WindowsSetup describing this. Feel free to edit it if you find it less than clear (or, worse, inaccurate). -- Paul I changed this pdf format viewer with "C:\Program Files\Adobe\Acrobat 7.0\Acrobat\acrobat.exe" EDit --> Preferences --> modify -->apply -->save and it fails to stick using 1.3.6pre (I think 18 or 19) when I reopen Lyx it is blank. However it does seem to save acrobat or acrobat.exe without quotes. I did not change the folling two at all, is it required? "Then do the same for PDF (dvipdfm) and PDF (pdflatex)." I thought the instructions (LyX/WindowsSetup) were quite clear, Stephen Just a guess but I seem to remember that after you press modify another file format jumps into place. This means that we might not be saving or applying the filename entered. I would recommend checking that after you have pressed modify, the Pdflatex entry is brought back in the File Formats window. After that the save button should be pressed. If you dont need to use anything other than pdflatex for View, then you dont need to fill in the other boxes. Hope this helps samar
Re: 1.3.6pre and 1.4 windows
On Sat, Jul 09, 2005 at 01:02:32PM -0700, Stephen P. Harris wrote: > > I changed this pdf format viewer with > "C:\Program Files\Adobe\Acrobat 7.0\Acrobat\acrobat.exe" > EDit --> Preferences --> modify -->apply -->save > and it fails to stick using 1.3.6pre (I think 18 or 19) when I reopen Lyx > it is > blank. However it does seem to save acrobat or acrobat.exe without quotes. > > I did not change the folling two at all, is it required? > "Then do the same for PDF (dvipdfm) and PDF (pdflatex)." > Not required, but useful. Please note that lyx have three different ways of generating PDF files. You can specify separate viewers for each conversion - for some reason. Specifying exactly the same viewer in all three cases is the done thing, donæ't know why the option for separate viewers exists for what it essentially the same thing. The three vays: 1. (export l�atex, run latex, run dvips, convert postscript to pdf) This way is the slowest but most common. You need a ps to pdf converter, in addition to latex itself. This way is probably common because: a) it is the first alternative b) it uses exactly the same software as the "file->print" menu. 2. (export latex, run latex, convert dvi to pdf directly using "dvipdfm") Slightly faster because it skips one step. You need dvipdfm in addition to latex itself. 3. (export latex, run pdflatex which produce a pdf directly from the latex file.) This is substantially faster than the two other ways. You need the pdflatex program, which exists in most latex distributions. Why have three ways? Some people prefer one, some another. Some people don't have all of them. Extra latex fonts and images may be handled in different ways. If you have problems producing a pdf one way - try another and it might work out better. "dvipdfm" caused problems for me, I got a pdf that wouldn�'t load in the acroread on windows! Helge Hafting
Re: 1.3.6pre and 1.4 windows
- Original Message - From: "Paul A. Rubin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <lyx-users@lists.lyx.org> Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 12:23 PM Subject: Re: 1.3.6pre and 1.4 windows It seems to me that questions about viewing PDFs come up periodically, but usually from people who don't know they need to go to the file formats section and fill in the viewer entries. I don't recall the business of the space in the path coming up much, but then my memory's not trustworthy. In any case, it's liable to come up more often when versions 1.3.6 and then 1.4 hatch, because they will allow users to work directly from source documents under My Documents, which I suspect will desensitize Windows users to the general issue of spaces in the path. I've added a blurb near the bottom of http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/WindowsSetup describing this. Feel free to edit it if you find it less than clear (or, worse, inaccurate). -- Paul This works a bit curiously in 1.3.6pre. Pdf = acrobat will bring up the doc at half-page size. Pdflatex will also bring up the document in half-page size. If the full path to acrobat.exe is entered in quotes, "C:\Program Files\Adobe\Acrobat 7.0\Acrobat\acrobat.exe" The save will not take effect and next time one opens Lyx the viewer field is blank. But then pdflatex defualts to acrobat as long as acrobat was in the pdf field. There is the pdfview.cmd bat file: START /max Acrobat.exe %1 exit This works to open the pdf file full-page size. In the pdf (dvipdfm) field both pdfview.cmd and c:\LyX\bin\pdfview.com are equivalent and bring up the pdf doc in full-page size. At the same time pdflatex using acrobat will bring up the same doc in half-page size. And finally, if "c:\lyx\bin\pdfview.cmd" is put in quotes, modified, applied, saved, closed and re-opened the field is blank and reverts to acrobat in half-page size. I don't think pdfview.cmd can be located in a Path which contains a space. Regards, Stephen
Re: 1.3.6pre and 1.4 windows
I've added a blurb near the bottom of http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/WindowsSetup describing this. Feel free to edit it if you find it less than clear (or, worse, inaccurate). -- Paul This works a bit curiously in 1.3.6pre. Pdf = acrobat will bring up the doc at half-page size. Pdflatex will also bring up the document in half-page size. If the full path to acrobat.exe is entered in quotes, "C:\Program Files\Adobe\Acrobat 7.0\Acrobat\acrobat.exe" The save will not take effect and next time one opens Lyx the viewer field is blank. But then pdflatex defualts to acrobat as long as acrobat was in the pdf field. There is the pdfview.cmd bat file: START /max Acrobat.exe %1 exit This works to open the pdf file full-page size. In the pdf (dvipdfm) field both pdfview.cmd and c:\LyX\bin\pdfview.com are equivalent and bring up the pdf doc in full-page size. At the same time pdflatex using acrobat will bring up the same doc in half-page size. And finally, if "c:\lyx\bin\pdfview.cmd" is put in quotes, modified, applied, saved, closed and re-opened the field is blank and reverts to acrobat in half-page size. I don't think pdfview.cmd can be located in a Path which contains a space. Regards, Stephen Yes, I agree that the full file path spec is not saved. I am not entirely sure that this is not a bug that needs to be sorted out, and Angus may have views on that. In point of fact, the process of reconfiguring kills that entry. samar
Re: 1.3.6pre and 1.4 windows
Angus == Angus Leeming [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Angus Nothing but bug fixes are being committed to the 1.4 tree and Angus they're being committed at a fairly steady rate. Jürgen Angus Spitzmüller, Martin Vermeer and Georg Baum are real heros in Angus this regard. I have to second that. JMarc
Re: 1.3.6pre and 1.4 windows
On Thu, Jul 07, 2005 at 09:25:37PM +0100, Geoffrey Lloyd wrote: A question to anyone that might know the answer. With the large amount of work going into Lyx 1.3.6 for Windows am I to assume the following 1) Lyx 1.4 release is a long way off Possibly. However there don't seem any big obstacles left, there are 'only' lots and lots of small and medium 'issues'. 2) It won't be released for Windows, at least initially. I don't this is true. Basically all the 1.3.6 Windows work is present in the 1.4.0cvs tree. Andre'
Re: 1.3.6pre and 1.4 windows
On Fri, Jul 08, 2005 at 11:04:38AM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Angus == Angus Leeming [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Angus Nothing but bug fixes are being committed to the 1.4 tree and Angus they're being committed at a fairly steady rate. Jürgen Angus Spitzmüller, Martin Vermeer and Georg Baum are real heros in Angus this regard. I have to second that. I third it. Erm. I minute it. Erm. Me tOO. Andre'
Re: 1.3.6pre and 1.4 windows
On Fri, Jul 08, 2005 at 08:43:49PM +0200, Andre Poenitz wrote: On Thu, Jul 07, 2005 at 09:25:37PM +0100, Geoffrey Lloyd wrote: A question to anyone that might know the answer. With the large amount of work going into Lyx 1.3.6 for Windows am I to assume the following 1) Lyx 1.4 release is a long way off Possibly. However there don't seem any big obstacles left, there are 'only' lots and lots of small and medium 'issues'. 2) It won't be released for Windows, at least initially. I don't this is true. Basically all the 1.3.6 Windows work is present in the 1.4.0cvs tree. Andre' I run 1.4.0CVS on Cygwin all the time. Both xforms and qt variants. -- Kayvan A. Sylvan | Proud husband of | Father to my kids: Sylvan Associates, Inc. | Laura Isabella Sylvan | Katherine Yelena (8/8/89) http://sylvan.com/~kayvan | crown of her husband | Robin Gregory (2/28/92)
Re: 1.3.6pre and 1.4 windows
Kayvan A. Sylvan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Hi! I run 1.4.0CVS on Cygwin all the time. Both xforms and qt variants. I'm back to LyX after some time and it works fine on x86_64 (qt) :-) However, I fetched 1.4.0CVS and quickly it crashed several times. Is the time ripe to send (more) bug-reports and/or backtraces? Sincerely, Gour -- Registered Linux User | #278493 GPG Public Key | 8C44EDCD
Re: 1.3.6pre and 1.4 windows
On Fri, Jul 08, 2005 at 10:17:34PM +0200, Gour wrote: Kayvan A. Sylvan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Hi! I run 1.4.0CVS on Cygwin all the time. Both xforms and qt variants. I'm back to LyX after some time and it works fine on x86_64 (qt) :-) However, I fetched 1.4.0CVS and quickly it crashed several times. Is the time ripe to send (more) bug-reports and/or backtraces? Yes. Send them to lyx-devel.
Re: 1.3.6pre and 1.4 windows
Kayvan A. Sylvan wrote: 2) It won't be released for Windows, at least initially. I don't this is true. Basically all the 1.3.6 Windows work is present in the 1.4.0cvs tree. Andre' I run 1.4.0CVS on Cygwin all the time. Both xforms and qt variants. With all due respect, Kayvan, you're not running LyX/Win 1.4 at all. You're running LyX/Posix 1.4 + a few 'tweaks'. My point is, you're running old, stable, proven code. Or at least as proven as any 1.4 code can be. LyX/Win is an entirely different kettle of fish with a huge patch file to the Posix version. That's why I say on the wiki: ...LyX 1.3.6 cannot really be classified as a minor bug fix release, especially for Windows users. Large chunks of the code base have been touched in an attempt to resolve those problems that Windows users have found with Ruurd’s original ports. We feel confident that LyX 1.3.6 will be the best ever version of LyX on Windows. We are not confident, however, that we haven’t introduced any new bugs. Regards, Angus
Re: 1.3.6pre and 1.4 windows
Angus == Angus Leeming [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Angus Nothing but bug fixes are being committed to the 1.4 tree and Angus they're being committed at a fairly steady rate. Jürgen Angus Spitzmüller, Martin Vermeer and Georg Baum are real heros in Angus this regard. I have to second that. JMarc
Re: 1.3.6pre and 1.4 windows
On Thu, Jul 07, 2005 at 09:25:37PM +0100, Geoffrey Lloyd wrote: A question to anyone that might know the answer. With the large amount of work going into Lyx 1.3.6 for Windows am I to assume the following 1) Lyx 1.4 release is a long way off Possibly. However there don't seem any big obstacles left, there are 'only' lots and lots of small and medium 'issues'. 2) It won't be released for Windows, at least initially. I don't this is true. Basically all the 1.3.6 Windows work is present in the 1.4.0cvs tree. Andre'
Re: 1.3.6pre and 1.4 windows
On Fri, Jul 08, 2005 at 11:04:38AM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Angus == Angus Leeming [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Angus Nothing but bug fixes are being committed to the 1.4 tree and Angus they're being committed at a fairly steady rate. Jürgen Angus Spitzmüller, Martin Vermeer and Georg Baum are real heros in Angus this regard. I have to second that. I third it. Erm. I minute it. Erm. Me tOO. Andre'
Re: 1.3.6pre and 1.4 windows
On Fri, Jul 08, 2005 at 08:43:49PM +0200, Andre Poenitz wrote: On Thu, Jul 07, 2005 at 09:25:37PM +0100, Geoffrey Lloyd wrote: A question to anyone that might know the answer. With the large amount of work going into Lyx 1.3.6 for Windows am I to assume the following 1) Lyx 1.4 release is a long way off Possibly. However there don't seem any big obstacles left, there are 'only' lots and lots of small and medium 'issues'. 2) It won't be released for Windows, at least initially. I don't this is true. Basically all the 1.3.6 Windows work is present in the 1.4.0cvs tree. Andre' I run 1.4.0CVS on Cygwin all the time. Both xforms and qt variants. -- Kayvan A. Sylvan | Proud husband of | Father to my kids: Sylvan Associates, Inc. | Laura Isabella Sylvan | Katherine Yelena (8/8/89) http://sylvan.com/~kayvan | crown of her husband | Robin Gregory (2/28/92)
Re: 1.3.6pre and 1.4 windows
Kayvan A. Sylvan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Hi! I run 1.4.0CVS on Cygwin all the time. Both xforms and qt variants. I'm back to LyX after some time and it works fine on x86_64 (qt) :-) However, I fetched 1.4.0CVS and quickly it crashed several times. Is the time ripe to send (more) bug-reports and/or backtraces? Sincerely, Gour -- Registered Linux User | #278493 GPG Public Key | 8C44EDCD
Re: 1.3.6pre and 1.4 windows
On Fri, Jul 08, 2005 at 10:17:34PM +0200, Gour wrote: Kayvan A. Sylvan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Hi! I run 1.4.0CVS on Cygwin all the time. Both xforms and qt variants. I'm back to LyX after some time and it works fine on x86_64 (qt) :-) However, I fetched 1.4.0CVS and quickly it crashed several times. Is the time ripe to send (more) bug-reports and/or backtraces? Yes. Send them to lyx-devel.
Re: 1.3.6pre and 1.4 windows
Kayvan A. Sylvan wrote: 2) It won't be released for Windows, at least initially. I don't this is true. Basically all the 1.3.6 Windows work is present in the 1.4.0cvs tree. Andre' I run 1.4.0CVS on Cygwin all the time. Both xforms and qt variants. With all due respect, Kayvan, you're not running LyX/Win 1.4 at all. You're running LyX/Posix 1.4 + a few 'tweaks'. My point is, you're running old, stable, proven code. Or at least as proven as any 1.4 code can be. LyX/Win is an entirely different kettle of fish with a huge patch file to the Posix version. That's why I say on the wiki: ...LyX 1.3.6 cannot really be classified as a minor bug fix release, especially for Windows users. Large chunks of the code base have been touched in an attempt to resolve those problems that Windows users have found with Ruurd’s original ports. We feel confident that LyX 1.3.6 will be the best ever version of LyX on Windows. We are not confident, however, that we haven’t introduced any new bugs. Regards, Angus
Re: 1.3.6pre and 1.4 windows
> "Angus" == Angus Leeming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Angus> Nothing but bug fixes are being committed to the 1.4 tree and Angus> they're being committed at a fairly steady rate. Jürgen Angus> Spitzmüller, Martin Vermeer and Georg Baum are real heros in Angus> this regard. I have to second that. JMarc
Re: 1.3.6pre and 1.4 windows
On Thu, Jul 07, 2005 at 09:25:37PM +0100, Geoffrey Lloyd wrote: > A question to anyone that might know the answer. With the large amount > of work going into Lyx 1.3.6 for Windows am I to assume the following > > 1) Lyx 1.4 release is a long way off Possibly. However there don't seem any big obstacles left, there are 'only' lots and lots of small and medium 'issues'. > 2) It won't be released for Windows, at least initially. I don't this is true. Basically all the 1.3.6 Windows work is present in the 1.4.0cvs tree. Andre'
Re: 1.3.6pre and 1.4 windows
On Fri, Jul 08, 2005 at 11:04:38AM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > > "Angus" == Angus Leeming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Angus> Nothing but bug fixes are being committed to the 1.4 tree and > Angus> they're being committed at a fairly steady rate. Jürgen > Angus> Spitzmüller, Martin Vermeer and Georg Baum are real heros in > Angus> this regard. > > I have to second that. I third it. Erm. I minute it. Erm. Me tOO. Andre'
Re: 1.3.6pre and 1.4 windows
On Fri, Jul 08, 2005 at 08:43:49PM +0200, Andre Poenitz wrote: > On Thu, Jul 07, 2005 at 09:25:37PM +0100, Geoffrey Lloyd wrote: > > A question to anyone that might know the answer. With the large amount > > of work going into Lyx 1.3.6 for Windows am I to assume the following > > > > 1) Lyx 1.4 release is a long way off > > Possibly. However there don't seem any big obstacles left, there are > 'only' lots and lots of small and medium 'issues'. > > > 2) It won't be released for Windows, at least initially. > > I don't this is true. Basically all the 1.3.6 Windows work > is present in the 1.4.0cvs tree. > > Andre' I run 1.4.0CVS on Cygwin all the time. Both xforms and qt variants. -- Kayvan A. Sylvan | Proud husband of | Father to my kids: Sylvan Associates, Inc. | Laura Isabella Sylvan | Katherine Yelena (8/8/89) http://sylvan.com/~kayvan | "crown of her husband" | Robin Gregory (2/28/92)
Re: 1.3.6pre and 1.4 windows
Kayvan A. Sylvan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Hi! > I run 1.4.0CVS on Cygwin all the time. Both xforms and qt variants. I'm back to LyX after some time and it works fine on x86_64 (qt) :-) However, I fetched 1.4.0CVS and quickly it crashed several times. Is the time ripe to send (more) bug-reports and/or backtraces? Sincerely, Gour -- Registered Linux User | #278493 GPG Public Key | 8C44EDCD
Re: 1.3.6pre and 1.4 windows
On Fri, Jul 08, 2005 at 10:17:34PM +0200, Gour wrote: > Kayvan A. Sylvan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > Hi! > > > I run 1.4.0CVS on Cygwin all the time. Both xforms and qt variants. > > I'm back to LyX after some time and it works fine on x86_64 (qt) :-) > > However, I fetched 1.4.0CVS and quickly it crashed several times. > > Is the time ripe to send (more) bug-reports and/or backtraces? Yes. Send them to lyx-devel.
Re: 1.3.6pre and 1.4 windows
Kayvan A. Sylvan wrote: 2) It won't be released for Windows, at least initially. I don't this is true. Basically all the 1.3.6 Windows work is present in the 1.4.0cvs tree. Andre' I run 1.4.0CVS on Cygwin all the time. Both xforms and qt variants. With all due respect, Kayvan, you're not running LyX/Win 1.4 at all. You're running LyX/Posix 1.4 + a few 'tweaks'. My point is, you're running old, stable, proven code. Or at least as proven as any 1.4 code can be. LyX/Win is an entirely different kettle of fish with a huge patch file to the Posix version. That's why I say on the wiki: ...LyX 1.3.6 cannot really be classified as a minor bug fix release, especially for Windows users. Large chunks of the code base have been touched in an attempt to resolve those problems that Windows users have found with Ruurd’s original ports. We feel confident that LyX 1.3.6 will be the best ever version of LyX on Windows. We are not confident, however, that we haven’t introduced any new bugs. Regards, Angus
1.3.6pre and 1.4 windows
A question to anyone that might know the answer. With the large amount of work going into Lyx 1.3.6 for Windows am I to assume the following 1) Lyx 1.4 release is a long way off 2) It won't be released for Windows, at least initially. Any ideas? Geoff
Re: 1.3.6pre and 1.4 windows
Geoffrey Lloyd wrote: A question to anyone that might know the answer. With the large amount of work going into Lyx 1.3.6 for Windows am I to assume the following 1) Lyx 1.4 release is a long way off It's only a long way off because there aren't enough developers who are currently active. Nothing but bug fixes are being committed to the 1.4 tree and they're being committed at a fairly steady rate. Jürgen Spitzmüller, Martin Vermeer and Georg Baum are real heros in this regard. 2) It won't be released for Windows, at least initially. What makes you say that? Nothing is committed to the 1.3.x tree without also being committed to the 1.4 tree. There's a large amount of work going into LyX/Win 1.3.6pre because of the fantastic bug reports that a heap of volunteers are posting. Squashing these bugs is really very rewarding ;-) See http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyX136pre#changelog Any ideas? Some, but I try not to boast. Geoff -- Angus
1.3.6pre and 1.4 windows
A question to anyone that might know the answer. With the large amount of work going into Lyx 1.3.6 for Windows am I to assume the following 1) Lyx 1.4 release is a long way off 2) It won't be released for Windows, at least initially. Any ideas? Geoff
Re: 1.3.6pre and 1.4 windows
Geoffrey Lloyd wrote: A question to anyone that might know the answer. With the large amount of work going into Lyx 1.3.6 for Windows am I to assume the following 1) Lyx 1.4 release is a long way off It's only a long way off because there aren't enough developers who are currently active. Nothing but bug fixes are being committed to the 1.4 tree and they're being committed at a fairly steady rate. Jürgen Spitzmüller, Martin Vermeer and Georg Baum are real heros in this regard. 2) It won't be released for Windows, at least initially. What makes you say that? Nothing is committed to the 1.3.x tree without also being committed to the 1.4 tree. There's a large amount of work going into LyX/Win 1.3.6pre because of the fantastic bug reports that a heap of volunteers are posting. Squashing these bugs is really very rewarding ;-) See http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyX136pre#changelog Any ideas? Some, but I try not to boast. Geoff -- Angus
1.3.6pre and 1.4 windows
A question to anyone that might know the answer. With the large amount of work going into Lyx 1.3.6 for Windows am I to assume the following 1) Lyx 1.4 release is a long way off 2) It won't be released for Windows, at least initially. Any ideas? Geoff
Re: 1.3.6pre and 1.4 windows
Geoffrey Lloyd wrote: > A question to anyone that might know the answer. With the large amount of > work going into Lyx 1.3.6 for Windows am I to assume the following > > 1) Lyx 1.4 release is a long way off It's only a long way off because there aren't enough developers who are currently active. Nothing but bug fixes are being committed to the 1.4 tree and they're being committed at a fairly steady rate. Jürgen Spitzmüller, Martin Vermeer and Georg Baum are real heros in this regard. > 2) It won't be released for Windows, at least initially. What makes you say that? Nothing is committed to the 1.3.x tree without also being committed to the 1.4 tree. There's a large amount of work going into LyX/Win 1.3.6pre because of the fantastic bug reports that a heap of volunteers are posting. Squashing these bugs is really very rewarding ;-) See http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyX136pre#changelog > Any ideas? Some, but I try not to boast. > Geoff -- Angus
