Re: Drag and drop text support on Lyx 1.6.6.1

2010-06-23 Thread Helge Hafting

On 22. juni 2010 18:11, Jose A. Rodrigo wrote:

Hi!!

First of all congratulations for this useful program and brilliant
project!!

It is not possible to drag-and-drop text (just by selecting it with
mouse pointer) like other text processors i.e. OpenWriter. Do you know
when this feature will be added to lyx? I think that it will be very
useful for many users. It will be great if this option is available for
equation editing as well. Up to now I used copy and paste shortcuts.


LyX has copy+paste using mouse only - at least on linux:

1. Mark the text to be copied
2. Move the mouse to where you want to copy it
3. Press the middle mouse button. (Or both buttons, if your mouse
   only have two buttons.)

Dragging a marked is something I don't miss. The keyboard shortcuts are 
usually much faster than using the mouse - once you get used to them.


The reason: One has to take a hand off the keyboard, and aim the mouse 
carefully. And then move the hand back to the keyboard again. When 
writing, the hands are on the keyboard by default.


None of this is necessary when using keyboard shortcuts. Cut/copy, a few 
cursor keys, paste. It is the faster way in openoffice too,

for that matter.

There is even a disadvantage to text dragging - it makes selecting 
trickier. In LyX, if you select wrong, you can select again immediately. 
You can even re-start selection in the middle of the existing selection. 
This is possible only because selection dragging is not implemented. 
Some mice has limited precision, and occationally mis-selects. Easy to 
fix when there is no dragging.


When there is selection dragging, there is the problem of dropping the 
selection in the wrong place, and the work of fixing that. This don't 
happen with a keyboard paste - you don't paste until the cursor is in 
the right place. But it is easy to loose the mouse button momentarily - 
at least with some mice.


Helge Hafting


Re: Drag and drop text support on Lyx 1.6.6.1

2010-06-23 Thread Helge Hafting

On 22. juni 2010 18:11, Jose A. Rodrigo wrote:

Hi!!

First of all congratulations for this useful program and brilliant
project!!

It is not possible to drag-and-drop text (just by selecting it with
mouse pointer) like other text processors i.e. OpenWriter. Do you know
when this feature will be added to lyx? I think that it will be very
useful for many users. It will be great if this option is available for
equation editing as well. Up to now I used copy and paste shortcuts.


LyX has copy+paste using mouse only - at least on linux:

1. Mark the text to be copied
2. Move the mouse to where you want to copy it
3. Press the middle mouse button. (Or both buttons, if your mouse
   only have two buttons.)

Dragging a marked is something I don't miss. The keyboard shortcuts are 
usually much faster than using the mouse - once you get used to them.


The reason: One has to take a hand off the keyboard, and aim the mouse 
carefully. And then move the hand back to the keyboard again. When 
writing, the hands are on the keyboard by default.


None of this is necessary when using keyboard shortcuts. Cut/copy, a few 
cursor keys, paste. It is the faster way in openoffice too,

for that matter.

There is even a disadvantage to text dragging - it makes selecting 
trickier. In LyX, if you select wrong, you can select again immediately. 
You can even re-start selection in the middle of the existing selection. 
This is possible only because selection dragging is not implemented. 
Some mice has limited precision, and occationally mis-selects. Easy to 
fix when there is no dragging.


When there is selection dragging, there is the problem of dropping the 
selection in the wrong place, and the work of fixing that. This don't 
happen with a keyboard paste - you don't paste until the cursor is in 
the right place. But it is easy to loose the mouse button momentarily - 
at least with some mice.


Helge Hafting


Re: Drag and drop text support on Lyx 1.6.6.1

2010-06-23 Thread Helge Hafting

On 22. juni 2010 18:11, Jose A. Rodrigo wrote:

Hi!!

First of all congratulations for this useful program and brilliant
project!!

It is not possible to drag-and-drop text (just by selecting it with
mouse pointer) like other text processors i.e. OpenWriter. Do you know
when this feature will be added to lyx? I think that it will be very
useful for many users. It will be great if this option is available for
equation editing as well. Up to now I used copy and paste shortcuts.


LyX has copy+paste using mouse only - at least on linux:

1. Mark the text to be copied
2. Move the mouse to where you want to copy it
3. Press the middle mouse button. (Or both buttons, if your mouse
   only have two buttons.)

Dragging a marked is something I don't miss. The keyboard shortcuts are 
usually much faster than using the mouse - once you get used to them.


The reason: One has to take a hand off the keyboard, and aim the mouse 
carefully. And then move the hand back to the keyboard again. When 
writing, the hands are on the keyboard by default.


None of this is necessary when using keyboard shortcuts. Cut/copy, a few 
cursor keys, paste. It is the faster way in openoffice too,

for that matter.

There is even a disadvantage to text dragging - it makes selecting 
trickier. In LyX, if you select wrong, you can select again immediately. 
You can even re-start selection in the middle of the existing selection. 
This is possible only because selection dragging is not implemented. 
Some mice has limited precision, and occationally mis-selects. Easy to 
fix when there is no dragging.


When there is selection dragging, there is the problem of dropping the 
selection in the wrong place, and the work of fixing that. This don't 
happen with a keyboard paste - you don't paste until the cursor is in 
the right place. But it is easy to loose the mouse button momentarily - 
at least with some mice.


Helge Hafting


Drag and drop text support on Lyx 1.6.6.1

2010-06-22 Thread Jose A. Rodrigo

Hi!!

First of all congratulations for this useful program and brilliant project!!

It is not possible to drag-and-drop text (just by selecting it with 
mouse pointer) like other text processors i.e. OpenWriter. Do you know 
when this feature will be added to lyx? I think that it will be very 
useful for many users. It will be great if this option is available for 
equation editing as well. Up to now I used copy and paste shortcuts.



Many thanks!
Jose


Re: Drag and drop text support on Lyx 1.6.6.1

2010-06-22 Thread Steve Litt
On Tuesday 22 June 2010 12:11:57 Jose A. Rodrigo wrote:
 Hi!!
 
 First of all congratulations for this useful program and brilliant
  project!!
 
 It is not possible to drag-and-drop text (just by selecting it with
 mouse pointer) like other text processors i.e. OpenWriter. Do you know
 when this feature will be added to lyx? I think that it will be very
 useful for many users. It will be great if this option is available for
 equation editing as well. Up to now I used copy and paste shortcuts.
 
 
 Many thanks!
 Jose

If you all do implement this feature, please include a switch to turn it off. 
Personally I'd prefer it be turned off by default, and if it's turned on by 
default, please widely publicize the change.

The way I work, dragging and dropping of text is a sure way to garble a 
document.

SteveT

Steve Litt
Recession Relief Package
http://www.recession-relief.US
Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/stevelitt



Re: Drag and drop text support on Lyx 1.6.6.1

2010-06-22 Thread Richard Heck



On Tuesday 22 June 2010 12:11:57 Jose A. Rodrigo wrote:
   

Hi!!

First of all congratulations for this useful program and brilliant
  project!!

It is not possible to drag-and-drop text (just by selecting it with
mouse pointer) like other text processors i.e. OpenWriter. Do you know
when this feature will be added to lyx? I think that it will be very
useful for many users. It will be great if this option is available for
equation editing as well. Up to now I used copy and paste shortcuts.

 
You're welcome to file an enhancement request for this on the bug 
reporter, at

http://www.lyx.org/trac/wiki/BugTrackerHome
When it might get done would depend upon whether someone feels compelled 
to do it. Of course, you could always do it yourself


Richard



Re: Drag and drop text support on Lyx 1.6.6.1

2010-06-22 Thread Marcelo Acuña
  It is not possible to drag-and-drop text (just by
 selecting it with
  mouse pointer) like other text processors i.e.
 OpenWriter. Do you know
  when this feature will be added to lyx? I think that
 it will be very
  useful for many users. It will be great if this option
 is available for
  equation editing as well. Up to now I used copy and
 paste shortcuts.

 I can't see any advantages for mouse drag-and-drop text against copy and paste 
with shortcuts.

Regards
Marcelo





Re: Drag and drop text support on Lyx 1.6.6.1

2010-06-22 Thread Rich Shepard

On Tue, 22 Jun 2010, Marcelo Acuña wrote:


I can't see any advantages for mouse drag-and-drop text against copy and
paste with shortcuts.


  Perhaps only for those who are not touch-typists and used to using the
pointy device for everything.

Rich


Drag and drop text support on Lyx 1.6.6.1

2010-06-22 Thread Jose A. Rodrigo

Hi!!

First of all congratulations for this useful program and brilliant project!!

It is not possible to drag-and-drop text (just by selecting it with 
mouse pointer) like other text processors i.e. OpenWriter. Do you know 
when this feature will be added to lyx? I think that it will be very 
useful for many users. It will be great if this option is available for 
equation editing as well. Up to now I used copy and paste shortcuts.



Many thanks!
Jose


Re: Drag and drop text support on Lyx 1.6.6.1

2010-06-22 Thread Steve Litt
On Tuesday 22 June 2010 12:11:57 Jose A. Rodrigo wrote:
 Hi!!
 
 First of all congratulations for this useful program and brilliant
  project!!
 
 It is not possible to drag-and-drop text (just by selecting it with
 mouse pointer) like other text processors i.e. OpenWriter. Do you know
 when this feature will be added to lyx? I think that it will be very
 useful for many users. It will be great if this option is available for
 equation editing as well. Up to now I used copy and paste shortcuts.
 
 
 Many thanks!
 Jose

If you all do implement this feature, please include a switch to turn it off. 
Personally I'd prefer it be turned off by default, and if it's turned on by 
default, please widely publicize the change.

The way I work, dragging and dropping of text is a sure way to garble a 
document.

SteveT

Steve Litt
Recession Relief Package
http://www.recession-relief.US
Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/stevelitt



Re: Drag and drop text support on Lyx 1.6.6.1

2010-06-22 Thread Richard Heck



On Tuesday 22 June 2010 12:11:57 Jose A. Rodrigo wrote:
   

Hi!!

First of all congratulations for this useful program and brilliant
  project!!

It is not possible to drag-and-drop text (just by selecting it with
mouse pointer) like other text processors i.e. OpenWriter. Do you know
when this feature will be added to lyx? I think that it will be very
useful for many users. It will be great if this option is available for
equation editing as well. Up to now I used copy and paste shortcuts.

 
You're welcome to file an enhancement request for this on the bug 
reporter, at

http://www.lyx.org/trac/wiki/BugTrackerHome
When it might get done would depend upon whether someone feels compelled 
to do it. Of course, you could always do it yourself


Richard



Re: Drag and drop text support on Lyx 1.6.6.1

2010-06-22 Thread Marcelo Acuña
  It is not possible to drag-and-drop text (just by
 selecting it with
  mouse pointer) like other text processors i.e.
 OpenWriter. Do you know
  when this feature will be added to lyx? I think that
 it will be very
  useful for many users. It will be great if this option
 is available for
  equation editing as well. Up to now I used copy and
 paste shortcuts.

 I can't see any advantages for mouse drag-and-drop text against copy and paste 
with shortcuts.

Regards
Marcelo





Re: Drag and drop text support on Lyx 1.6.6.1

2010-06-22 Thread Rich Shepard

On Tue, 22 Jun 2010, Marcelo Acuña wrote:


I can't see any advantages for mouse drag-and-drop text against copy and
paste with shortcuts.


  Perhaps only for those who are not touch-typists and used to using the
pointy device for everything.

Rich


Drag and drop text support on Lyx 1.6.6.1

2010-06-22 Thread Jose A. Rodrigo

Hi!!

First of all congratulations for this useful program and brilliant project!!

It is not possible to drag-and-drop text (just by selecting it with 
mouse pointer) like other text processors i.e. OpenWriter. Do you know 
when this feature will be added to lyx? I think that it will be very 
useful for many users. It will be great if this option is available for 
equation editing as well. Up to now I used copy and paste shortcuts.



Many thanks!
Jose


Re: Drag and drop text support on Lyx 1.6.6.1

2010-06-22 Thread Steve Litt
On Tuesday 22 June 2010 12:11:57 Jose A. Rodrigo wrote:
> Hi!!
> 
> First of all congratulations for this useful program and brilliant
>  project!!
> 
> It is not possible to drag-and-drop text (just by selecting it with
> mouse pointer) like other text processors i.e. OpenWriter. Do you know
> when this feature will be added to lyx? I think that it will be very
> useful for many users. It will be great if this option is available for
> equation editing as well. Up to now I used copy and paste shortcuts.
> 
> 
> Many thanks!
> Jose

If you all do implement this feature, please include a switch to turn it off. 
Personally I'd prefer it be turned off by default, and if it's turned on by 
default, please widely publicize the change.

The way I work, dragging and dropping of text is a sure way to garble a 
document.

SteveT

Steve Litt
Recession Relief Package
http://www.recession-relief.US
Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/stevelitt



Re: Drag and drop text support on Lyx 1.6.6.1

2010-06-22 Thread Richard Heck



On Tuesday 22 June 2010 12:11:57 Jose A. Rodrigo wrote:
   

Hi!!

First of all congratulations for this useful program and brilliant
  project!!

It is not possible to drag-and-drop text (just by selecting it with
mouse pointer) like other text processors i.e. OpenWriter. Do you know
when this feature will be added to lyx? I think that it will be very
useful for many users. It will be great if this option is available for
equation editing as well. Up to now I used copy and paste shortcuts.

 
You're welcome to file an enhancement request for this on the bug 
reporter, at

http://www.lyx.org/trac/wiki/BugTrackerHome
When it might get done would depend upon whether someone feels compelled 
to do it. Of course, you could always do it yourself


Richard



Re: Drag and drop text support on Lyx 1.6.6.1

2010-06-22 Thread Marcelo Acuña
> > It is not possible to drag-and-drop text (just by
> selecting it with
> > mouse pointer) like other text processors i.e.
> OpenWriter. Do you know
> > when this feature will be added to lyx? I think that
> it will be very
> > useful for many users. It will be great if this option
> is available for
> > equation editing as well. Up to now I used copy and
> paste shortcuts.

 I can't see any advantages for mouse drag-and-drop text against copy and paste 
with shortcuts.

Regards
Marcelo





Re: Drag and drop text support on Lyx 1.6.6.1

2010-06-22 Thread Rich Shepard

On Tue, 22 Jun 2010, Marcelo Acuña wrote:


I can't see any advantages for mouse drag-and-drop text against copy and
paste with shortcuts.


  Perhaps only for those who are not touch-typists and used to using the
pointy device for everything.

Rich