Re: Fedora Core mathml-bakoma4lyx and mathml-fonts packages

[Paul Smith]

On 9/15/05, Rex Dieter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  For my Fedora Linux systems I prepared just such a collection, using
  Rex's framework and making only the minimal changes to insert the
  bakoma4lyx fonts and tighten up packaging.  I inserted the bakoma4lyx
  Readme.txt documentation to acknowledge the fine effort of the bakoma
  authors.  In case you want, you can install it
 
  http://lark.cc.ku.edu/~pauljohn/software/PolsFC4Updates/mathml-bakoma4lyx-fonts-2.0-1.src.rpm
 
  Nevertheless, I'll take a look at your improvements and incorporate them
  into the next iteration of mathml-fonts.
 
 OK, mathml-fonts-1.0-18 has been released (or will be real-soon-now).
 
 %changelog
 * Thu Sep 15 2005 Rex Dieter rexdieter[AT]users.sf.net 1.0-18
 - replace latex-xft-fonts with bakoma4lyx
 - remove non-distributable Math'ca fonts (#168405)

Rex,

Will mathml-fonts-1.0-18 be available for all Fedora Cores (FC1, FC2,
FC3 and FC4)?

I need to know that to update the Wiki.

Paul

Re: Fedora Core mathml-bakoma4lyx and mathml-fonts packages

[Rex Dieter]

Paul Smith wrote:

On 9/15/05, Rex Dieter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



OK, mathml-fonts-1.0-18 has been released (or will be real-soon-now).

%changelog
* Thu Sep 15 2005 Rex Dieter rexdieter[AT]users.sf.net 1.0-18
- replace latex-xft-fonts with bakoma4lyx
- remove non-distributable Math'ca fonts (#168405)



Will mathml-fonts-1.0-18 be available for all Fedora Cores (FC1, FC2,
FC3 and FC4)?


Officially on only what Fedora Extras supports, ie, currently FC3, FC4, 
devel/rawhide.  However, nothing in the package ties it to a particular 
release, so the FC3/FC4 package(s) can be used/installed on previous 
releases too.


-- Rex

Re: Fedora Core mathml-bakoma4lyx and mathml-fonts packages

[Paul Smith]

On 9/17/05, Rex Dieter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 OK, mathml-fonts-1.0-18 has been released (or will be real-soon-now).
 
 %changelog
 * Thu Sep 15 2005 Rex Dieter rexdieter[AT]users.sf.net 1.0-18
 - replace latex-xft-fonts with bakoma4lyx
 - remove non-distributable Math'ca fonts (#168405)
 
  Will mathml-fonts-1.0-18 be available for all Fedora Cores (FC1, FC2,
  FC3 and FC4)?
 
 Officially on only what Fedora Extras supports, ie, currently FC3, FC4,
 devel/rawhide.  However, nothing in the package ties it to a particular
 release, so the FC3/FC4 package(s) can be used/installed on previous
 releases too.

Thanks, Rex. As soon as mathml-fonts-1.0-18 becomes available, I will
update the Wiki.

Paul

Re: Fedora Core mathml-bakoma4lyx and mathml-fonts packages

[Rex Dieter]

Paul Smith wrote:

On 9/17/05, Rex Dieter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


OK, mathml-fonts-1.0-18 has been released (or will be real-soon-now).

%changelog
* Thu Sep 15 2005 Rex Dieter rexdieter[AT]users.sf.net 1.0-18
- replace latex-xft-fonts with bakoma4lyx
- remove non-distributable Math'ca fonts (#168405)



Will mathml-fonts-1.0-18 be available for all Fedora Cores (FC1, FC2,
FC3 and FC4)?


Officially on only what Fedora Extras supports, ie, currently FC3, FC4,
devel/rawhide.  However, nothing in the package ties it to a particular
release, so the FC3/FC4 package(s) can be used/installed on previous
releases too.



Thanks, Rex. As soon as mathml-fonts-1.0-18 becomes available, I will
update the Wiki.


FYI, it's available now (and was within hours of my original notice to 
this list).


-- Rex

Re: Fedora Core mathml-bakoma4lyx and mathml-fonts packages

[Paul Smith]

On 9/17/05, Rex Dieter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Thanks, Rex. As soon as mathml-fonts-1.0-18 becomes available, I will
  update the Wiki.
 
 FYI, it's available now (and was within hours of my original notice to
 this list).

Well, it seems that my extras repository has not been update yet... :-)

I have meanwhile updated the Wiki page:

http://wiki.lyx.org/FAQ/Qt

Paul

Re: Fedora Core mathml-bakoma4lyx and mathml-fonts packages

[Paul Smith]

On 9/15/05, Rex Dieter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  For my Fedora Linux systems I prepared just such a collection, using
  Rex's framework and making only the minimal changes to insert the
  bakoma4lyx fonts and tighten up packaging.  I inserted the bakoma4lyx
  Readme.txt documentation to acknowledge the fine effort of the bakoma
  authors.  In case you want, you can install it
 
  http://lark.cc.ku.edu/~pauljohn/software/PolsFC4Updates/mathml-bakoma4lyx-fonts-2.0-1.src.rpm
 
  Nevertheless, I'll take a look at your improvements and incorporate them
  into the next iteration of mathml-fonts.
 
 OK, mathml-fonts-1.0-18 has been released (or will be real-soon-now).
 
 %changelog
 * Thu Sep 15 2005 Rex Dieter rexdieter[AT]users.sf.net 1.0-18
 - replace latex-xft-fonts with bakoma4lyx
 - remove non-distributable Math'ca fonts (#168405)

Rex,

Will mathml-fonts-1.0-18 be available for all Fedora Cores (FC1, FC2,
FC3 and FC4)?

I need to know that to update the Wiki.

Paul

Re: Fedora Core mathml-bakoma4lyx and mathml-fonts packages

[Rex Dieter]

Paul Smith wrote:

On 9/15/05, Rex Dieter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



OK, mathml-fonts-1.0-18 has been released (or will be real-soon-now).

%changelog
* Thu Sep 15 2005 Rex Dieter rexdieter[AT]users.sf.net 1.0-18
- replace latex-xft-fonts with bakoma4lyx
- remove non-distributable Math'ca fonts (#168405)



Will mathml-fonts-1.0-18 be available for all Fedora Cores (FC1, FC2,
FC3 and FC4)?


Officially on only what Fedora Extras supports, ie, currently FC3, FC4, 
devel/rawhide.  However, nothing in the package ties it to a particular 
release, so the FC3/FC4 package(s) can be used/installed on previous 
releases too.


-- Rex

Re: Fedora Core mathml-bakoma4lyx and mathml-fonts packages

[Paul Smith]

On 9/17/05, Rex Dieter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 OK, mathml-fonts-1.0-18 has been released (or will be real-soon-now).
 
 %changelog
 * Thu Sep 15 2005 Rex Dieter rexdieter[AT]users.sf.net 1.0-18
 - replace latex-xft-fonts with bakoma4lyx
 - remove non-distributable Math'ca fonts (#168405)
 
  Will mathml-fonts-1.0-18 be available for all Fedora Cores (FC1, FC2,
  FC3 and FC4)?
 
 Officially on only what Fedora Extras supports, ie, currently FC3, FC4,
 devel/rawhide.  However, nothing in the package ties it to a particular
 release, so the FC3/FC4 package(s) can be used/installed on previous
 releases too.

Thanks, Rex. As soon as mathml-fonts-1.0-18 becomes available, I will
update the Wiki.

Paul

Re: Fedora Core mathml-bakoma4lyx and mathml-fonts packages

[Rex Dieter]

Paul Smith wrote:

On 9/17/05, Rex Dieter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


OK, mathml-fonts-1.0-18 has been released (or will be real-soon-now).

%changelog
* Thu Sep 15 2005 Rex Dieter rexdieter[AT]users.sf.net 1.0-18
- replace latex-xft-fonts with bakoma4lyx
- remove non-distributable Math'ca fonts (#168405)



Will mathml-fonts-1.0-18 be available for all Fedora Cores (FC1, FC2,
FC3 and FC4)?


Officially on only what Fedora Extras supports, ie, currently FC3, FC4,
devel/rawhide.  However, nothing in the package ties it to a particular
release, so the FC3/FC4 package(s) can be used/installed on previous
releases too.



Thanks, Rex. As soon as mathml-fonts-1.0-18 becomes available, I will
update the Wiki.


FYI, it's available now (and was within hours of my original notice to 
this list).


-- Rex

Re: Fedora Core mathml-bakoma4lyx and mathml-fonts packages

[Paul Smith]

On 9/17/05, Rex Dieter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Thanks, Rex. As soon as mathml-fonts-1.0-18 becomes available, I will
  update the Wiki.
 
 FYI, it's available now (and was within hours of my original notice to
 this list).

Well, it seems that my extras repository has not been update yet... :-)

I have meanwhile updated the Wiki page:

http://wiki.lyx.org/FAQ/Qt

Paul

Re: Fedora Core mathml-bakoma4lyx and mathml-fonts packages

[Paul Smith]

On 9/15/05, Rex Dieter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> For my Fedora Linux systems I prepared just such a collection, using
> >> Rex's framework and making only the minimal changes to insert the
> >> bakoma4lyx fonts and tighten up packaging.  I inserted the bakoma4lyx
> >> Readme.txt documentation to acknowledge the fine effort of the bakoma
> >> authors.  In case you want, you can install it
> 
> >> http://lark.cc.ku.edu/~pauljohn/software/PolsFC4Updates/mathml-bakoma4lyx-fonts-2.0-1.src.rpm
> 
> > Nevertheless, I'll take a look at your improvements and incorporate them
> > into the next iteration of mathml-fonts.
> 
> OK, mathml-fonts-1.0-18 has been released (or will be real-soon-now).
> 
> %changelog
> * Thu Sep 15 2005 Rex Dieter  1.0-18
> - replace latex-xft-fonts with bakoma4lyx
> - remove non-distributable Math'ca fonts (#168405)

Rex,

Will mathml-fonts-1.0-18 be available for all Fedora Cores (FC1, FC2,
FC3 and FC4)?

I need to know that to update the Wiki.

Paul

Re: Fedora Core mathml-bakoma4lyx and mathml-fonts packages

[Rex Dieter]

Paul Smith wrote:

On 9/15/05, Rex Dieter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



OK, mathml-fonts-1.0-18 has been released (or will be real-soon-now).

%changelog
* Thu Sep 15 2005 Rex Dieter  1.0-18
- replace latex-xft-fonts with bakoma4lyx
- remove non-distributable Math'ca fonts (#168405)



Will mathml-fonts-1.0-18 be available for all Fedora Cores (FC1, FC2,
FC3 and FC4)?


Officially on only what Fedora Extras supports, ie, currently FC3, FC4, 
devel/rawhide.  However, nothing in the package ties it to a particular 
release, so the FC3/FC4 package(s) can be used/installed on previous 
releases too.


-- Rex

Re: Fedora Core mathml-bakoma4lyx and mathml-fonts packages

[Paul Smith]

On 9/17/05, Rex Dieter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>OK, mathml-fonts-1.0-18 has been released (or will be real-soon-now).
> >>
> >>%changelog
> >>* Thu Sep 15 2005 Rex Dieter  1.0-18
> >>- replace latex-xft-fonts with bakoma4lyx
> >>- remove non-distributable Math'ca fonts (#168405)
> 
> > Will mathml-fonts-1.0-18 be available for all Fedora Cores (FC1, FC2,
> > FC3 and FC4)?
> 
> Officially on only what Fedora Extras supports, ie, currently FC3, FC4,
> devel/rawhide.  However, nothing in the package ties it to a particular
> release, so the FC3/FC4 package(s) can be used/installed on previous
> releases too.

Thanks, Rex. As soon as mathml-fonts-1.0-18 becomes available, I will
update the Wiki.

Paul

Re: Fedora Core mathml-bakoma4lyx and mathml-fonts packages

[Rex Dieter]

Paul Smith wrote:

On 9/17/05, Rex Dieter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


OK, mathml-fonts-1.0-18 has been released (or will be real-soon-now).

%changelog
* Thu Sep 15 2005 Rex Dieter  1.0-18
- replace latex-xft-fonts with bakoma4lyx
- remove non-distributable Math'ca fonts (#168405)



Will mathml-fonts-1.0-18 be available for all Fedora Cores (FC1, FC2,
FC3 and FC4)?


Officially on only what Fedora Extras supports, ie, currently FC3, FC4,
devel/rawhide.  However, nothing in the package ties it to a particular
release, so the FC3/FC4 package(s) can be used/installed on previous
releases too.



Thanks, Rex. As soon as mathml-fonts-1.0-18 becomes available, I will
update the Wiki.


FYI, it's available now (and was within hours of my original notice to 
this list).


-- Rex

Re: Fedora Core mathml-bakoma4lyx and mathml-fonts packages

[Paul Smith]

On 9/17/05, Rex Dieter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Thanks, Rex. As soon as mathml-fonts-1.0-18 becomes available, I will
> > update the Wiki.
> 
> FYI, it's available now (and was within hours of my original notice to
> this list).

Well, it seems that my extras repository has not been update yet... :-)

I have meanwhile updated the Wiki page:

http://wiki.lyx.org/FAQ/Qt

Paul

Fedora Core mathml-bakoma4lyx and mathml-fonts packages

[Paul Johnson]

Hello, font needing LyX users of Fedora Core Linux:

Recently, I offered an RPM containing the bakoma4lyx fonts, a subset of 
bakoma that was made available with permission of the author. That 
package is


http://lark.cc.ku.edu/~pauljohn/software/PolsFC4Updates/latex-bakoma4lyx-fonts-1-2.noarch.rpm

That is a replacement for the latex-xft-fonts package, which provided 
lower quality fonts.


After that, I learned that Fedora Core extras was distributing a font 
file mathml-fonts and that the lyx in FC4-Extras was requiring 
mathml-fonts.


Recently, Stephen Harris asked if the mathml-fonts package conflicts or 
duplicates my latex-bakoma4lyx-fonts package and I decided to check it 
out.  I downloaded the source code for the FC Extras package 
mathml-fonts that was prepared by Rex Dieter. The package is very well 
designed and the spec file is well documented.


Where do latex-bakoma4lyx-fonts and mathml-fonts differ?

mathml-fonts is a BIGGER set of fonts than bakoma4lyx-fonts. 
mathml-fonts innstalls these


/usr/libexec/mathml-fonts
/usr/libexec/mathml-fonts/find_symbol_font.sh
/usr/share/fonts/mathml
/usr/share/fonts/mathml/cmbx10.ttf
/usr/share/fonts/mathml/cmex10.ttf
/usr/share/fonts/mathml/cmmi10.ttf
/usr/share/fonts/mathml/cmr10.ttf
/usr/share/fonts/mathml/cmsy10.ttf
/usr/share/fonts/mathml/math1___.ttf
/usr/share/fonts/mathml/math2___.ttf
/usr/share/fonts/mathml/math4___.ttf
/usr/share/fonts/mathml/msam10.ttf
/usr/share/fonts/mathml/msbm10.ttf
/usr/share/fonts/mathml/mtextra.ttf
/usr/share/fonts/mathml/wasy10.ttf

This list includes the original latex-xft fonts (the ones with 10 in the 
name), one font from the bakoma package (cmbx10.ttf) which over writes 
the latex-xft version,  a font from MTW_Truetype.exe (mtextra.ttf)
and the rest (mathX__.ttf) are from the Mathematica 
program(http://support.wolfram.com/mathematica/systems/windows/general/MathFonts_TrueType.
exe). I do not know for sure the licensing provisions of all of these 
and  wish there were a doc directory with information on that.


People say the latex-xft-fonts look bad.  Humph.

So I wanted the mathml-fonts package, but with the bakoma4lyx fonts 
replacing the latex-xft-fonts.  mathml-fonts also has some nice post 
processing to help acrobat reader find fonts (there is a script called 
find_symbol_font).  I've left the install directory as 
/usr/share/fonts/mathml so that the post-install processing is not broken.


For my Fedora Linux systems I prepared just such a collection, using 
Rex's framework and making only the minimal changes to insert the 
bakoma4lyx fonts and tighten up packaging.  I inserted the bakoma4lyx 
Readme.txt documentation to acknowledge the fine effort of the bakoma 
authors.  In case you want, you can install it


http://lark.cc.ku.edu/~pauljohn/software/PolsFC4Updates/mathml-bakoma4lyx-fonts-2.0-1.noarch.rpm
http://lark.cc.ku.edu/~pauljohn/software/PolsFC4Updates/mathml-bakoma4lyx-fonts-2.0-1.src.rpm

Warning: I inserted provisions here so that, when  you install this, it 
Obsoletes latex-xft-fonts, latex-bakoma4lyx-fonts, and mathml-fonts
and it lets the RPM system know it provides all functionality of 
mathml-fonts package. So LyX installs/upgrades from FedoraExtras will 
be fine.


I have run lyx and seen these nice fonts, all seems well. In the 
increasingly byzantine and arcane world of X system administration, it 
is not clear to me how exactly X11 or the Fedora font server find these 
fonts, but I think they are being found, even though the directory in 
which the fonts are installed is never explicitly put into a font search 
path for X11 or for the font server. Maybe its Freetype magic. I know 
absolutely for sure because I uninstalled mathml-bakoma4lyx-fonts and 
then lyx could not find any math fonts, and re-installed it and lyx 
could show the lovely alphas and betas.


--
Paul E. Johnson   email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dept. of Political Sciencehttp://lark.cc.ku.edu/~pauljohn
1541 Lilac Lane, Rm 504
University of Kansas  Office: (785) 864-9086
Lawrence, Kansas 66044-3177   FAX: (785) 864-5700

Re: Fedora Core mathml-bakoma4lyx and mathml-fonts packages

[Rex Dieter]

Paul Johnson wrote:



Recently, Stephen Harris asked if the mathml-fonts package conflicts 
or duplicates my latex-bakoma4lyx-fonts package and I decided to check 
it out.  I downloaded the source code for the FC Extras package 
mathml-fonts that was prepared by Rex Dieter. The package is very well 
designed and the spec file is well documented.


...

For my Fedora Linux systems I prepared just such a collection, using 
Rex's framework and making only the minimal changes to insert the 
bakoma4lyx fonts and tighten up packaging.  I inserted the bakoma4lyx 
Readme.txt documentation to acknowledge the fine effort of the bakoma 
authors.  In case you want, you can install it


http://lark.cc.ku.edu/~pauljohn/software/PolsFC4Updates/mathml-bakoma4lyx-fonts-2.0-1.noarch.rpm 

http://lark.cc.ku.edu/~pauljohn/software/PolsFC4Updates/mathml-bakoma4lyx-fonts-2.0-1.src.rpm 



Warning: I inserted provisions here so that, when  you install this, 
it Obsoletes latex-xft-fonts, latex-bakoma4lyx-fonts, and mathml-fonts
and it lets the RPM system know it provides all functionality of 
mathml-fonts package. So LyX installs/upgrades from FedoraExtras 
will be fine.


Paul, I would have much rather you had directly contributed to making 
the mathml-fonts package in Extras better by submitting this to Fedora 
Extras' bugzilla and not Obsoletes: mathml-fonts.


Nevertheless, I'll take a look at your improvements and incorporate them 
into the next iteration of mathml-fonts.


-- Rex

Re: Fedora Core mathml-bakoma4lyx and mathml-fonts packages

[Rex Dieter]

Paul Johnson wrote:


Hello, font needing LyX users of Fedora Core Linux:

Recently, I offered an RPM containing the bakoma4lyx fonts, a subset 
of bakoma that was made available with permission of the author. That 
package is


Is there any reference or links to these bakoma4lyx fonts?   
http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/Troubleshooting still points to latex-xft-fonts, 
or should the wiki page simply be updated?


-- Rex

Re: Fedora Core mathml-bakoma4lyx and mathml-fonts packages

[Rex Dieter]

Rex Dieter wrote:

Paul Johnson wrote:


For my Fedora Linux systems I prepared just such a collection, using 
Rex's framework and making only the minimal changes to insert the 
bakoma4lyx fonts and tighten up packaging.  I inserted the bakoma4lyx 
Readme.txt documentation to acknowledge the fine effort of the bakoma 
authors.  In case you want, you can install it


http://lark.cc.ku.edu/~pauljohn/software/PolsFC4Updates/mathml-bakoma4lyx-fonts-2.0-1.src.rpm 


Nevertheless, I'll take a look at your improvements and incorporate them 
into the next iteration of mathml-fonts.


OK, mathml-fonts-1.0-18 has been released (or will be real-soon-now).

%changelog
* Thu Sep 15 2005 Rex Dieter rexdieter[AT]users.sf.net 1.0-18
- replace latex-xft-fonts with bakoma4lyx
- remove non-distributable Math'ca fonts (#168405)

-- Rex

Fedora Core mathml-bakoma4lyx and mathml-fonts packages

[Paul Johnson]

Hello, font needing LyX users of Fedora Core Linux:

Recently, I offered an RPM containing the bakoma4lyx fonts, a subset of 
bakoma that was made available with permission of the author. That 
package is


http://lark.cc.ku.edu/~pauljohn/software/PolsFC4Updates/latex-bakoma4lyx-fonts-1-2.noarch.rpm

That is a replacement for the latex-xft-fonts package, which provided 
lower quality fonts.


After that, I learned that Fedora Core extras was distributing a font 
file mathml-fonts and that the lyx in FC4-Extras was requiring 
mathml-fonts.


Recently, Stephen Harris asked if the mathml-fonts package conflicts or 
duplicates my latex-bakoma4lyx-fonts package and I decided to check it 
out.  I downloaded the source code for the FC Extras package 
mathml-fonts that was prepared by Rex Dieter. The package is very well 
designed and the spec file is well documented.


Where do latex-bakoma4lyx-fonts and mathml-fonts differ?

mathml-fonts is a BIGGER set of fonts than bakoma4lyx-fonts. 
mathml-fonts innstalls these


/usr/libexec/mathml-fonts
/usr/libexec/mathml-fonts/find_symbol_font.sh
/usr/share/fonts/mathml
/usr/share/fonts/mathml/cmbx10.ttf
/usr/share/fonts/mathml/cmex10.ttf
/usr/share/fonts/mathml/cmmi10.ttf
/usr/share/fonts/mathml/cmr10.ttf
/usr/share/fonts/mathml/cmsy10.ttf
/usr/share/fonts/mathml/math1___.ttf
/usr/share/fonts/mathml/math2___.ttf
/usr/share/fonts/mathml/math4___.ttf
/usr/share/fonts/mathml/msam10.ttf
/usr/share/fonts/mathml/msbm10.ttf
/usr/share/fonts/mathml/mtextra.ttf
/usr/share/fonts/mathml/wasy10.ttf

This list includes the original latex-xft fonts (the ones with 10 in the 
name), one font from the bakoma package (cmbx10.ttf) which over writes 
the latex-xft version,  a font from MTW_Truetype.exe (mtextra.ttf)
and the rest (mathX__.ttf) are from the Mathematica 
program(http://support.wolfram.com/mathematica/systems/windows/general/MathFonts_TrueType.
exe). I do not know for sure the licensing provisions of all of these 
and  wish there were a doc directory with information on that.


People say the latex-xft-fonts look bad.  Humph.

So I wanted the mathml-fonts package, but with the bakoma4lyx fonts 
replacing the latex-xft-fonts.  mathml-fonts also has some nice post 
processing to help acrobat reader find fonts (there is a script called 
find_symbol_font).  I've left the install directory as 
/usr/share/fonts/mathml so that the post-install processing is not broken.


For my Fedora Linux systems I prepared just such a collection, using 
Rex's framework and making only the minimal changes to insert the 
bakoma4lyx fonts and tighten up packaging.  I inserted the bakoma4lyx 
Readme.txt documentation to acknowledge the fine effort of the bakoma 
authors.  In case you want, you can install it


http://lark.cc.ku.edu/~pauljohn/software/PolsFC4Updates/mathml-bakoma4lyx-fonts-2.0-1.noarch.rpm
http://lark.cc.ku.edu/~pauljohn/software/PolsFC4Updates/mathml-bakoma4lyx-fonts-2.0-1.src.rpm

Warning: I inserted provisions here so that, when  you install this, it 
Obsoletes latex-xft-fonts, latex-bakoma4lyx-fonts, and mathml-fonts
and it lets the RPM system know it provides all functionality of 
mathml-fonts package. So LyX installs/upgrades from FedoraExtras will 
be fine.


I have run lyx and seen these nice fonts, all seems well. In the 
increasingly byzantine and arcane world of X system administration, it 
is not clear to me how exactly X11 or the Fedora font server find these 
fonts, but I think they are being found, even though the directory in 
which the fonts are installed is never explicitly put into a font search 
path for X11 or for the font server. Maybe its Freetype magic. I know 
absolutely for sure because I uninstalled mathml-bakoma4lyx-fonts and 
then lyx could not find any math fonts, and re-installed it and lyx 
could show the lovely alphas and betas.


--
Paul E. Johnson   email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dept. of Political Sciencehttp://lark.cc.ku.edu/~pauljohn
1541 Lilac Lane, Rm 504
University of Kansas  Office: (785) 864-9086
Lawrence, Kansas 66044-3177   FAX: (785) 864-5700

Re: Fedora Core mathml-bakoma4lyx and mathml-fonts packages

[Rex Dieter]

Paul Johnson wrote:



Recently, Stephen Harris asked if the mathml-fonts package conflicts 
or duplicates my latex-bakoma4lyx-fonts package and I decided to check 
it out.  I downloaded the source code for the FC Extras package 
mathml-fonts that was prepared by Rex Dieter. The package is very well 
designed and the spec file is well documented.


...

For my Fedora Linux systems I prepared just such a collection, using 
Rex's framework and making only the minimal changes to insert the 
bakoma4lyx fonts and tighten up packaging.  I inserted the bakoma4lyx 
Readme.txt documentation to acknowledge the fine effort of the bakoma 
authors.  In case you want, you can install it


http://lark.cc.ku.edu/~pauljohn/software/PolsFC4Updates/mathml-bakoma4lyx-fonts-2.0-1.noarch.rpm 

http://lark.cc.ku.edu/~pauljohn/software/PolsFC4Updates/mathml-bakoma4lyx-fonts-2.0-1.src.rpm 



Warning: I inserted provisions here so that, when  you install this, 
it Obsoletes latex-xft-fonts, latex-bakoma4lyx-fonts, and mathml-fonts
and it lets the RPM system know it provides all functionality of 
mathml-fonts package. So LyX installs/upgrades from FedoraExtras 
will be fine.


Paul, I would have much rather you had directly contributed to making 
the mathml-fonts package in Extras better by submitting this to Fedora 
Extras' bugzilla and not Obsoletes: mathml-fonts.


Nevertheless, I'll take a look at your improvements and incorporate them 
into the next iteration of mathml-fonts.


-- Rex

Re: Fedora Core mathml-bakoma4lyx and mathml-fonts packages

[Rex Dieter]

Paul Johnson wrote:


Hello, font needing LyX users of Fedora Core Linux:

Recently, I offered an RPM containing the bakoma4lyx fonts, a subset 
of bakoma that was made available with permission of the author. That 
package is


Is there any reference or links to these bakoma4lyx fonts?   
http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/Troubleshooting still points to latex-xft-fonts, 
or should the wiki page simply be updated?


-- Rex

Re: Fedora Core mathml-bakoma4lyx and mathml-fonts packages

[Rex Dieter]

Rex Dieter wrote:

Paul Johnson wrote:


For my Fedora Linux systems I prepared just such a collection, using 
Rex's framework and making only the minimal changes to insert the 
bakoma4lyx fonts and tighten up packaging.  I inserted the bakoma4lyx 
Readme.txt documentation to acknowledge the fine effort of the bakoma 
authors.  In case you want, you can install it


http://lark.cc.ku.edu/~pauljohn/software/PolsFC4Updates/mathml-bakoma4lyx-fonts-2.0-1.src.rpm 


Nevertheless, I'll take a look at your improvements and incorporate them 
into the next iteration of mathml-fonts.


OK, mathml-fonts-1.0-18 has been released (or will be real-soon-now).

%changelog
* Thu Sep 15 2005 Rex Dieter rexdieter[AT]users.sf.net 1.0-18
- replace latex-xft-fonts with bakoma4lyx
- remove non-distributable Math'ca fonts (#168405)

-- Rex

Fedora Core mathml-bakoma4lyx and mathml-fonts packages

[Paul Johnson]

Hello, font needing LyX users of Fedora Core Linux:

Recently, I offered an RPM containing the bakoma4lyx fonts, a subset of 
bakoma that was made available with permission of the author. That 
package is


http://lark.cc.ku.edu/~pauljohn/software/PolsFC4Updates/latex-bakoma4lyx-fonts-1-2.noarch.rpm

That is a replacement for the latex-xft-fonts package, which provided 
lower quality fonts.


After that, I learned that Fedora Core extras was distributing a font 
file mathml-fonts and that the lyx in FC4-Extras was requiring 
mathml-fonts.


Recently, Stephen Harris asked if the mathml-fonts package conflicts or 
duplicates my latex-bakoma4lyx-fonts package and I decided to check it 
out.  I downloaded the source code for the FC Extras package 
mathml-fonts that was prepared by Rex Dieter. The package is very well 
designed and the spec file is well documented.


Where do latex-bakoma4lyx-fonts and mathml-fonts differ?

mathml-fonts is a BIGGER set of fonts than bakoma4lyx-fonts. 
mathml-fonts innstalls these


/usr/libexec/mathml-fonts
/usr/libexec/mathml-fonts/find_symbol_font.sh
/usr/share/fonts/mathml
/usr/share/fonts/mathml/cmbx10.ttf
/usr/share/fonts/mathml/cmex10.ttf
/usr/share/fonts/mathml/cmmi10.ttf
/usr/share/fonts/mathml/cmr10.ttf
/usr/share/fonts/mathml/cmsy10.ttf
/usr/share/fonts/mathml/math1___.ttf
/usr/share/fonts/mathml/math2___.ttf
/usr/share/fonts/mathml/math4___.ttf
/usr/share/fonts/mathml/msam10.ttf
/usr/share/fonts/mathml/msbm10.ttf
/usr/share/fonts/mathml/mtextra.ttf
/usr/share/fonts/mathml/wasy10.ttf

This list includes the original latex-xft fonts (the ones with 10 in the 
name), one font from the bakoma package (cmbx10.ttf) which "over writes" 
the latex-xft version,  a font from MTW_Truetype.exe (mtextra.ttf)
and the rest (mathX__.ttf) are from the Mathematica 
program(http://support.wolfram.com/mathematica/systems/windows/general/MathFonts_TrueType.
exe). I do not know for sure the licensing provisions of all of these 
and  wish there were a doc directory with information on that.


People say the latex-xft-fonts look bad.  Humph.

So I wanted the mathml-fonts package, but with the bakoma4lyx fonts 
replacing the latex-xft-fonts.  mathml-fonts also has some nice post 
processing to help acrobat reader find fonts (there is a script called 
"find_symbol_font").  I've left the install directory as 
/usr/share/fonts/mathml so that the post-install processing is not broken.


For my Fedora Linux systems I prepared just such a collection, using 
Rex's framework and making only the minimal changes to insert the 
bakoma4lyx fonts and tighten up packaging.  I inserted the bakoma4lyx 
Readme.txt documentation to acknowledge the fine effort of the bakoma 
authors.  In case you want, you can install it


http://lark.cc.ku.edu/~pauljohn/software/PolsFC4Updates/mathml-bakoma4lyx-fonts-2.0-1.noarch.rpm
http://lark.cc.ku.edu/~pauljohn/software/PolsFC4Updates/mathml-bakoma4lyx-fonts-2.0-1.src.rpm

Warning: I inserted provisions here so that, when  you install this, it 
Obsoletes latex-xft-fonts, latex-bakoma4lyx-fonts, and mathml-fonts
and it lets the RPM system know it provides all functionality of 
"mathml-fonts" package. So LyX installs/upgrades from FedoraExtras will 
be fine.


I have run lyx and seen these nice fonts, all seems well. In the 
increasingly byzantine and arcane world of X system administration, it 
is not clear to me how exactly X11 or the Fedora font server find these 
fonts, but I think they are being found, even though the directory in 
which the fonts are installed is never explicitly put into a font search 
path for X11 or for the font server. Maybe its Freetype magic. I know 
absolutely for sure because I uninstalled mathml-bakoma4lyx-fonts and 
then lyx could not find any math fonts, and re-installed it and lyx 
could show the lovely alphas and betas.


--
Paul E. Johnson   email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dept. of Political Sciencehttp://lark.cc.ku.edu/~pauljohn
1541 Lilac Lane, Rm 504
University of Kansas  Office: (785) 864-9086
Lawrence, Kansas 66044-3177   FAX: (785) 864-5700

Re: Fedora Core mathml-bakoma4lyx and mathml-fonts packages

[Rex Dieter]

Paul Johnson wrote:



Recently, Stephen Harris asked if the mathml-fonts package conflicts 
or duplicates my latex-bakoma4lyx-fonts package and I decided to check 
it out.  I downloaded the source code for the FC Extras package 
mathml-fonts that was prepared by Rex Dieter. The package is very well 
designed and the spec file is well documented.


...

For my Fedora Linux systems I prepared just such a collection, using 
Rex's framework and making only the minimal changes to insert the 
bakoma4lyx fonts and tighten up packaging.  I inserted the bakoma4lyx 
Readme.txt documentation to acknowledge the fine effort of the bakoma 
authors.  In case you want, you can install it


http://lark.cc.ku.edu/~pauljohn/software/PolsFC4Updates/mathml-bakoma4lyx-fonts-2.0-1.noarch.rpm 

http://lark.cc.ku.edu/~pauljohn/software/PolsFC4Updates/mathml-bakoma4lyx-fonts-2.0-1.src.rpm 



Warning: I inserted provisions here so that, when  you install this, 
it Obsoletes latex-xft-fonts, latex-bakoma4lyx-fonts, and mathml-fonts
and it lets the RPM system know it provides all functionality of 
"mathml-fonts" package. So LyX installs/upgrades from FedoraExtras 
will be fine.


Paul, I would have much rather you had directly contributed to making 
the mathml-fonts package in Extras better by submitting this to Fedora 
Extras' bugzilla and not Obsoletes: mathml-fonts.


Nevertheless, I'll take a look at your improvements and incorporate them 
into the next iteration of mathml-fonts.


-- Rex

Re: Fedora Core mathml-bakoma4lyx and mathml-fonts packages

[Rex Dieter]

Paul Johnson wrote:


Hello, font needing LyX users of Fedora Core Linux:

Recently, I offered an RPM containing the bakoma4lyx fonts, a subset 
of bakoma that was made available with permission of the author. That 
package is


Is there any reference or links to these bakoma4lyx fonts?   
http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/Troubleshooting still points to latex-xft-fonts, 
or should the wiki page simply be updated?


-- Rex

Re: Fedora Core mathml-bakoma4lyx and mathml-fonts packages

[Rex Dieter]

Rex Dieter wrote:

Paul Johnson wrote:


For my Fedora Linux systems I prepared just such a collection, using 
Rex's framework and making only the minimal changes to insert the 
bakoma4lyx fonts and tighten up packaging.  I inserted the bakoma4lyx 
Readme.txt documentation to acknowledge the fine effort of the bakoma 
authors.  In case you want, you can install it


http://lark.cc.ku.edu/~pauljohn/software/PolsFC4Updates/mathml-bakoma4lyx-fonts-2.0-1.src.rpm 


Nevertheless, I'll take a look at your improvements and incorporate them 
into the next iteration of mathml-fonts.


OK, mathml-fonts-1.0-18 has been released (or will be real-soon-now).

%changelog
* Thu Sep 15 2005 Rex Dieter  1.0-18
- replace latex-xft-fonts with bakoma4lyx
- remove non-distributable Math'ca fonts (#168405)

-- Rex