Re: Finding packages............
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 14/01/13 03:09, aries...@skymesh.com.au wrote: On Sun, 13 Jan 2013 16:12:10 -0500, Steve Litt wrote: On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 07:52:03 +1100, Charlie said: Hi all, A lot of you are able to instantly find LaTeX packages to solve random problems. I can't do that and want to learn how. I know of the existence of ctan.org just like everyone else, but there's something in my mental makeup that's different from yours, and I want to adopt your beliefs and your mindset in order to produce your results. I know to most of you this sounds trivial and self-explanatory, but to me it's anything but, so please tell me your beliefs, mindset and techniques as you search for a package to solve a specific problem. Thanks so much, SteveT I have taken the liberty of starting a new thread because it's a good question, though I would expand that by asking where the packages should be placed in the /home/{user}/.lyx or the /usr/share/lyx directories. I don't know where they should go but just guess, by file association. Place them where .sty, or whatever files exist, and if they are in more than one directory try them in several places till Reconfigure or texhash does it's work and finds them. In reply to the above: in http://ctan.org/ type into the Search aperture what it is you need and allow it to be found. Doing that with vancouver for instance, takes you on the journey to the files. Which of them is required and where to put them is another question? In my case I would seek out where .bib, bst, and .tex files reside and place each there. Probably doesn't help at all. Charlie Thanks Charlie, It's definitely a start. Let me ask you this: If you needed to have all lines with monospace type break correctly, and didn't want to use \begin{sloppy} and \end{sloppy} on every paragraph with monospace, what would be your thought process in attempting to find a package to accommodate this? I'm not at all interested in the package name, I'm asking about your thought process in the search. Thanks SteveT On Sun, 13 Jan 2013 16:12:10 -0500 Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com suggested this: Let me ask you this: If you needed to have all lines with monospace type break correctly, and didn't want to use \begin{sloppy} and \end{sloppy} on every paragraph with monospace, what would be your thought process in attempting to find a package to accommodate this? I'm not at all interested in the package name, I'm asking about your thought process in the search. Firstly, I must admit that I didn't know what monospace font was, so I googled it, which is always my first port of call for any unknown. Using all manner of search terms rather than trolling through the pages of links that Google puts up. Then I see what you're talking about, as a document in Latin Modern Typewriter is created. Now that I have an idea what monospace fonts are, and see the ragged edge at the right of the page, I can move on. So would firstly see what LyX has to offer in the document settings with regard to “justify”. Finding that, failing to create the desired result, would probably use the search term “justify words in a sentence” using Google. Because if someone were writing about monospace in a document for someone like me who has no idea how to do it, they might use a dumbed down term. I'm an uneducated man. Later I would use the word monospace to ensure that some of the more technical solutions would be visible. Now it depends just how much I want the effect of in line text on both sides of the page. If I was really bloody minded I would try different document classes first. I would try all the options and the ERT's and the preamble inserts and look for the results on each attempt. I would place some of the preamble commands in different places in the preamble and even try the preamble commands in ERT's. I would keep writing and polishing my document, so all this experimenting might happen over a period of days or weeks, coming upon a writing abyss and needing to move away from it to find the solution. Try new search terms used on Google any new wrinkle thought of would be tried. I would post on this list and ask if anyone had any ideas/solutions or off the wall suggestions. If I found a package during my Googling that looks promising I may download it, then try to put it where it should be and give it a larrup. But being a Debian user, tend to stay with what's available and installed by default, but not devoutly. When crafting the text has finished I would try the various document classes, view them, select the one I liked best, after accepting the limitations of each and give up trying for my prejudice of perfection. And don't forget tex stackexchange (http://tex.stackexchange.com/) - has helped
Re: Finding packages............
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 14/01/13 03:09, aries...@skymesh.com.au wrote: On Sun, 13 Jan 2013 16:12:10 -0500, Steve Litt wrote: On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 07:52:03 +1100, Charlie said: Hi all, A lot of you are able to instantly find LaTeX packages to solve random problems. I can't do that and want to learn how. I know of the existence of ctan.org just like everyone else, but there's something in my mental makeup that's different from yours, and I want to adopt your beliefs and your mindset in order to produce your results. I know to most of you this sounds trivial and self-explanatory, but to me it's anything but, so please tell me your beliefs, mindset and techniques as you search for a package to solve a specific problem. Thanks so much, SteveT I have taken the liberty of starting a new thread because it's a good question, though I would expand that by asking where the packages should be placed in the /home/{user}/.lyx or the /usr/share/lyx directories. I don't know where they should go but just guess, by file association. Place them where .sty, or whatever files exist, and if they are in more than one directory try them in several places till Reconfigure or texhash does it's work and finds them. In reply to the above: in http://ctan.org/ type into the Search aperture what it is you need and allow it to be found. Doing that with vancouver for instance, takes you on the journey to the files. Which of them is required and where to put them is another question? In my case I would seek out where .bib, bst, and .tex files reside and place each there. Probably doesn't help at all. Charlie Thanks Charlie, It's definitely a start. Let me ask you this: If you needed to have all lines with monospace type break correctly, and didn't want to use \begin{sloppy} and \end{sloppy} on every paragraph with monospace, what would be your thought process in attempting to find a package to accommodate this? I'm not at all interested in the package name, I'm asking about your thought process in the search. Thanks SteveT On Sun, 13 Jan 2013 16:12:10 -0500 Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com suggested this: Let me ask you this: If you needed to have all lines with monospace type break correctly, and didn't want to use \begin{sloppy} and \end{sloppy} on every paragraph with monospace, what would be your thought process in attempting to find a package to accommodate this? I'm not at all interested in the package name, I'm asking about your thought process in the search. Firstly, I must admit that I didn't know what monospace font was, so I googled it, which is always my first port of call for any unknown. Using all manner of search terms rather than trolling through the pages of links that Google puts up. Then I see what you're talking about, as a document in Latin Modern Typewriter is created. Now that I have an idea what monospace fonts are, and see the ragged edge at the right of the page, I can move on. So would firstly see what LyX has to offer in the document settings with regard to “justify”. Finding that, failing to create the desired result, would probably use the search term “justify words in a sentence” using Google. Because if someone were writing about monospace in a document for someone like me who has no idea how to do it, they might use a dumbed down term. I'm an uneducated man. Later I would use the word monospace to ensure that some of the more technical solutions would be visible. Now it depends just how much I want the effect of in line text on both sides of the page. If I was really bloody minded I would try different document classes first. I would try all the options and the ERT's and the preamble inserts and look for the results on each attempt. I would place some of the preamble commands in different places in the preamble and even try the preamble commands in ERT's. I would keep writing and polishing my document, so all this experimenting might happen over a period of days or weeks, coming upon a writing abyss and needing to move away from it to find the solution. Try new search terms used on Google any new wrinkle thought of would be tried. I would post on this list and ask if anyone had any ideas/solutions or off the wall suggestions. If I found a package during my Googling that looks promising I may download it, then try to put it where it should be and give it a larrup. But being a Debian user, tend to stay with what's available and installed by default, but not devoutly. When crafting the text has finished I would try the various document classes, view them, select the one I liked best, after accepting the limitations of each and give up trying for my prejudice of perfection. And don't forget tex stackexchange (http://tex.stackexchange.com/) - has helped
Re: Finding packages............
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 14/01/13 03:09, aries...@skymesh.com.au wrote: > On Sun, 13 Jan 2013 16:12:10 -0500, Steve Litt wrote: >> On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 07:52:03 +1100, Charlie said: >>> Hi all, A lot of you are able to instantly find LaTeX packages to solve random problems. I can't do that and want to learn how. I know of the existence of ctan.org just like everyone else, but there's something in my mental makeup that's different from yours, and I want to adopt your beliefs and your mindset in order to produce your results. I know to most of you this sounds trivial and self-explanatory, but to me it's anything but, so please tell me your beliefs, mindset and techniques as you search for a package to solve a specific problem. Thanks so much, SteveT >>> >>> I have taken the liberty of starting a new thread because it's a good >>> question, though I >>> would expand that by asking where the packages should be placed in the >>> /home/{user}/.lyx >>> or the /usr/share/lyx directories. I don't know where they should go but >>> just guess, by >>> file association. >>> >>> Place them where .sty, or whatever files exist, and if they are in more >>> than one directory >>> try them in several places till "Reconfigure" or "texhash" does it's work >>> and finds them. >>> >>> In reply to the above: in http://ctan.org/ type into the "Search" aperture >>> what it is you >>> need and allow it to be found. >>> >>> Doing that with vancouver for instance, takes you on the journey to the >>> files. Which of >>> them is required and where to put them is another question? >>> >>> In my case I would seek out where .bib, bst, and .tex files reside and >>> place each there. >>> >>> Probably doesn't help at all. >>> >>> Charlie >> >> Thanks Charlie, >> >> It's definitely a start. >> >> Let me ask you this: If you needed to have all lines with monospace type >> break correctly, >> and didn't want to use \begin{sloppy} and \end{sloppy} on every paragraph >> with monospace, >> what would be your thought process in attempting to find a package to >> accommodate this? I'm >> not at all interested in the package name, I'm asking about your thought >> process in the >> search. >> >> Thanks >> >> SteveT > > On Sun, 13 Jan 2013 16:12:10 -0500 "Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com" > suggested this: > >> Let me ask you this: If you needed to have all lines with monospace type >> break correctly, >> and didn't want to use \begin{sloppy} and \end{sloppy} on every paragraph >> with monospace, >> what would be your thought process in attempting to find a package to >> accommodate this? I'm >> not at all interested in the package name, I'm asking about your thought >> process in the >> search. > > Firstly, I must admit that I didn't know what monospace font was, so I > googled it, which is > always my first port of call for any unknown. Using all manner of search > terms rather than > trolling through the pages of links that Google puts up. > > Then I see what you're talking about, as a document in Latin Modern > Typewriter is created. > > Now that I have an idea what monospace fonts are, and see the ragged edge at > the right of the > page, I can move on. So would firstly see what LyX has to offer in the > document settings with > regard to “justify”. > > Finding that, failing to create the desired result, would probably use the > search term > “justify words in a sentence” using Google. Because if someone were writing > about monospace in > a document for someone like me who has no idea how to do it, they might use a > dumbed down > term. I'm an uneducated man. Later I would use the word monospace to ensure > that some of the > more technical solutions would be visible. > > Now it depends just how much I want the effect of in line text on both sides > of the page. If I > was really bloody minded I would try different document classes first. > > I would try all the options and the ERT's and the preamble inserts and look > for the results on > each attempt. I would place some of the preamble commands in different places > in the preamble > and even try the preamble commands in ERT's. > > I would keep writing and polishing my document, so all this experimenting > might happen over a > period of days or weeks, coming upon a writing abyss and needing to move away > from it to find > the solution. Try new search terms used on Google any new wrinkle thought of > would be tried. > > I would post on this list and ask if anyone had any ideas/solutions or off > the wall > suggestions. > > If I found a package during my Googling that looks promising I may download > it, then try to > put it where it should be and give it a larrup. But being a Debian user, tend > to stay with > what's available and installed by default, but not devoutly. > > When
Finding packages............
Hi all, A lot of you are able to instantly find LaTeX packages to solve random problems. I can't do that and want to learn how. I know of the existence of ctan.org just like everyone else, but there's something in my mental makeup that's different from yours, and I want to adopt your beliefs and your mindset in order to produce your results. I know to most of you this sounds trivial and self-explanatory, but to me it's anything but, so please tell me your beliefs, mindset and techniques as you search for a package to solve a specific problem. Thanks so much, SteveT I have taken the liberty of starting a new thread because it's a good question, though I would expand that by asking where the packages should be placed in the /home/{user}/.lyx or the /usr/share/lyx directories. I don't know where they should go but just guess, by file association. Place them where .sty, or whatever files exist, and if they are in more than one directory try them in several places till Reconfigure or texhash does it's work and finds them. In reply to the above: in http://ctan.org/ type into the Search aperture what it is you need and allow it to be found. Doing that with vancouver for instance, takes you on the journey to the files. Which of them is required and where to put them is another question? In my case I would seek out where .bib, bst, and .tex files reside and place each there. Probably doesn't help at all. Charlie -- Registered Linux User:- 329524 *** At a given moment I open my eyes and exist. And before that, during all eternity, what was there? Nothing. - Ugo Betti *** Debian GNU/Linux - just the best way to create magic -
Re: Finding packages............
On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 07:52:03 +1100, Charlie said: Hi all, A lot of you are able to instantly find LaTeX packages to solve random problems. I can't do that and want to learn how. I know of the existence of ctan.org just like everyone else, but there's something in my mental makeup that's different from yours, and I want to adopt your beliefs and your mindset in order to produce your results. I know to most of you this sounds trivial and self-explanatory, but to me it's anything but, so please tell me your beliefs, mindset and techniques as you search for a package to solve a specific problem. Thanks so much, SteveT I have taken the liberty of starting a new thread because it's a good question, though I would expand that by asking where the packages should be placed in the /home/{user}/.lyx or the /usr/share/lyx directories. I don't know where they should go but just guess, by file association. Place them where .sty, or whatever files exist, and if they are in more than one directory try them in several places till Reconfigure or texhash does it's work and finds them. In reply to the above: in http://ctan.org/ type into the Search aperture what it is you need and allow it to be found. Doing that with vancouver for instance, takes you on the journey to the files. Which of them is required and where to put them is another question? In my case I would seek out where .bib, bst, and .tex files reside and place each there. Probably doesn't help at all. Charlie Thanks Charlie, It's definitely a start. Let me ask you this: If you needed to have all lines with monospace type break correctly, and didn't want to use \begin{sloppy} and \end{sloppy} on every paragraph with monospace, what would be your thought process in attempting to find a package to accommodate this? I'm not at all interested in the package name, I'm asking about your thought process in the search. Thanks SteveT Steve Litt* http://www.troubleshooters.com/ * http://twitter.com/stevelitt Troubleshooting Training * Human Performance
Re: Finding packages............
On Sun, 13 Jan 2013 16:12:10 -0500, Steve Litt wrote: On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 07:52:03 +1100, Charlie said: Hi all, A lot of you are able to instantly find LaTeX packages to solve random problems. I can't do that and want to learn how. I know of the existence of ctan.org just like everyone else, but there's something in my mental makeup that's different from yours, and I want to adopt your beliefs and your mindset in order to produce your results. I know to most of you this sounds trivial and self-explanatory, but to me it's anything but, so please tell me your beliefs, mindset and techniques as you search for a package to solve a specific problem. Thanks so much, SteveT I have taken the liberty of starting a new thread because it's a good question, though I would expand that by asking where the packages should be placed in the /home/{user}/.lyx or the /usr/share/lyx directories. I don't know where they should go but just guess, by file association. Place them where .sty, or whatever files exist, and if they are in more than one directory try them in several places till Reconfigure or texhash does it's work and finds them. In reply to the above: in http://ctan.org/ type into the Search aperture what it is you need and allow it to be found. Doing that with vancouver for instance, takes you on the journey to the files. Which of them is required and where to put them is another question? In my case I would seek out where .bib, bst, and .tex files reside and place each there. Probably doesn't help at all. Charlie Thanks Charlie, It's definitely a start. Let me ask you this: If you needed to have all lines with monospace type break correctly, and didn't want to use \begin{sloppy} and \end{sloppy} on every paragraph with monospace, what would be your thought process in attempting to find a package to accommodate this? I'm not at all interested in the package name, I'm asking about your thought process in the search. Thanks SteveT On Sun, 13 Jan 2013 16:12:10 -0500 Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com suggested this: Let me ask you this: If you needed to have all lines with monospace type break correctly, and didn't want to use \begin{sloppy} and \end{sloppy} on every paragraph with monospace, what would be your thought process in attempting to find a package to accommodate this? I'm not at all interested in the package name, I'm asking about your thought process in the search. Firstly, I must admit that I didn't know what monospace font was, so I googled it, which is always my first port of call for any unknown. Using all manner of search terms rather than trolling through the pages of links that Google puts up. Then I see what you're talking about, as a document in Latin Modern Typewriter is created. Now that I have an idea what monospace fonts are, and see the ragged edge at the right of the page, I can move on. So would firstly see what LyX has to offer in the document settings with regard to “justify”. Finding that, failing to create the desired result, would probably use the search term “justify words in a sentence” using Google. Because if someone were writing about monospace in a document for someone like me who has no idea how to do it, they might use a dumbed down term. I'm an uneducated man. Later I would use the word monospace to ensure that some of the more technical solutions would be visible. Now it depends just how much I want the effect of in line text on both sides of the page. If I was really bloody minded I would try different document classes first. I would try all the options and the ERT's and the preamble inserts and look for the results on each attempt. I would place some of the preamble commands in different places in the preamble and even try the preamble commands in ERT's. I would keep writing and polishing my document, so all this experimenting might happen over a period of days or weeks, coming upon a writing abyss and needing to move away from it to find the solution. Try new search terms used on Google any new wrinkle thought of would be tried. I would post on this list and ask if anyone had any ideas/solutions or off the wall suggestions. If I found a package during my Googling that looks promising I may download it, then try to put it where it should be and give it a larrup. But being a Debian user, tend to stay with what's available and installed by default, but not devoutly. When crafting the text has finished I would try the various document classes, view them, select the one I liked best, after accepting the limitations of each and give up trying for my prejudice of perfection. Charlie -- ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** Registered Linux User:- 329524 *** Every man is guilty of all the good he didn't do. -Voltaire *** Debian GNU/Linux - just the best way to create magic ___
Finding packages............
Hi all, A lot of you are able to instantly find LaTeX packages to solve random problems. I can't do that and want to learn how. I know of the existence of ctan.org just like everyone else, but there's something in my mental makeup that's different from yours, and I want to adopt your beliefs and your mindset in order to produce your results. I know to most of you this sounds trivial and self-explanatory, but to me it's anything but, so please tell me your beliefs, mindset and techniques as you search for a package to solve a specific problem. Thanks so much, SteveT I have taken the liberty of starting a new thread because it's a good question, though I would expand that by asking where the packages should be placed in the /home/{user}/.lyx or the /usr/share/lyx directories. I don't know where they should go but just guess, by file association. Place them where .sty, or whatever files exist, and if they are in more than one directory try them in several places till Reconfigure or texhash does it's work and finds them. In reply to the above: in http://ctan.org/ type into the Search aperture what it is you need and allow it to be found. Doing that with vancouver for instance, takes you on the journey to the files. Which of them is required and where to put them is another question? In my case I would seek out where .bib, bst, and .tex files reside and place each there. Probably doesn't help at all. Charlie -- Registered Linux User:- 329524 *** At a given moment I open my eyes and exist. And before that, during all eternity, what was there? Nothing. - Ugo Betti *** Debian GNU/Linux - just the best way to create magic -
Re: Finding packages............
On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 07:52:03 +1100, Charlie said: Hi all, A lot of you are able to instantly find LaTeX packages to solve random problems. I can't do that and want to learn how. I know of the existence of ctan.org just like everyone else, but there's something in my mental makeup that's different from yours, and I want to adopt your beliefs and your mindset in order to produce your results. I know to most of you this sounds trivial and self-explanatory, but to me it's anything but, so please tell me your beliefs, mindset and techniques as you search for a package to solve a specific problem. Thanks so much, SteveT I have taken the liberty of starting a new thread because it's a good question, though I would expand that by asking where the packages should be placed in the /home/{user}/.lyx or the /usr/share/lyx directories. I don't know where they should go but just guess, by file association. Place them where .sty, or whatever files exist, and if they are in more than one directory try them in several places till Reconfigure or texhash does it's work and finds them. In reply to the above: in http://ctan.org/ type into the Search aperture what it is you need and allow it to be found. Doing that with vancouver for instance, takes you on the journey to the files. Which of them is required and where to put them is another question? In my case I would seek out where .bib, bst, and .tex files reside and place each there. Probably doesn't help at all. Charlie Thanks Charlie, It's definitely a start. Let me ask you this: If you needed to have all lines with monospace type break correctly, and didn't want to use \begin{sloppy} and \end{sloppy} on every paragraph with monospace, what would be your thought process in attempting to find a package to accommodate this? I'm not at all interested in the package name, I'm asking about your thought process in the search. Thanks SteveT Steve Litt* http://www.troubleshooters.com/ * http://twitter.com/stevelitt Troubleshooting Training * Human Performance
Re: Finding packages............
On Sun, 13 Jan 2013 16:12:10 -0500, Steve Litt wrote: On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 07:52:03 +1100, Charlie said: Hi all, A lot of you are able to instantly find LaTeX packages to solve random problems. I can't do that and want to learn how. I know of the existence of ctan.org just like everyone else, but there's something in my mental makeup that's different from yours, and I want to adopt your beliefs and your mindset in order to produce your results. I know to most of you this sounds trivial and self-explanatory, but to me it's anything but, so please tell me your beliefs, mindset and techniques as you search for a package to solve a specific problem. Thanks so much, SteveT I have taken the liberty of starting a new thread because it's a good question, though I would expand that by asking where the packages should be placed in the /home/{user}/.lyx or the /usr/share/lyx directories. I don't know where they should go but just guess, by file association. Place them where .sty, or whatever files exist, and if they are in more than one directory try them in several places till Reconfigure or texhash does it's work and finds them. In reply to the above: in http://ctan.org/ type into the Search aperture what it is you need and allow it to be found. Doing that with vancouver for instance, takes you on the journey to the files. Which of them is required and where to put them is another question? In my case I would seek out where .bib, bst, and .tex files reside and place each there. Probably doesn't help at all. Charlie Thanks Charlie, It's definitely a start. Let me ask you this: If you needed to have all lines with monospace type break correctly, and didn't want to use \begin{sloppy} and \end{sloppy} on every paragraph with monospace, what would be your thought process in attempting to find a package to accommodate this? I'm not at all interested in the package name, I'm asking about your thought process in the search. Thanks SteveT On Sun, 13 Jan 2013 16:12:10 -0500 Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com suggested this: Let me ask you this: If you needed to have all lines with monospace type break correctly, and didn't want to use \begin{sloppy} and \end{sloppy} on every paragraph with monospace, what would be your thought process in attempting to find a package to accommodate this? I'm not at all interested in the package name, I'm asking about your thought process in the search. Firstly, I must admit that I didn't know what monospace font was, so I googled it, which is always my first port of call for any unknown. Using all manner of search terms rather than trolling through the pages of links that Google puts up. Then I see what you're talking about, as a document in Latin Modern Typewriter is created. Now that I have an idea what monospace fonts are, and see the ragged edge at the right of the page, I can move on. So would firstly see what LyX has to offer in the document settings with regard to “justify”. Finding that, failing to create the desired result, would probably use the search term “justify words in a sentence” using Google. Because if someone were writing about monospace in a document for someone like me who has no idea how to do it, they might use a dumbed down term. I'm an uneducated man. Later I would use the word monospace to ensure that some of the more technical solutions would be visible. Now it depends just how much I want the effect of in line text on both sides of the page. If I was really bloody minded I would try different document classes first. I would try all the options and the ERT's and the preamble inserts and look for the results on each attempt. I would place some of the preamble commands in different places in the preamble and even try the preamble commands in ERT's. I would keep writing and polishing my document, so all this experimenting might happen over a period of days or weeks, coming upon a writing abyss and needing to move away from it to find the solution. Try new search terms used on Google any new wrinkle thought of would be tried. I would post on this list and ask if anyone had any ideas/solutions or off the wall suggestions. If I found a package during my Googling that looks promising I may download it, then try to put it where it should be and give it a larrup. But being a Debian user, tend to stay with what's available and installed by default, but not devoutly. When crafting the text has finished I would try the various document classes, view them, select the one I liked best, after accepting the limitations of each and give up trying for my prejudice of perfection. Charlie -- ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** Registered Linux User:- 329524 *** Every man is guilty of all the good he didn't do. -Voltaire *** Debian GNU/Linux - just the best way to create magic ___
Finding packages............
>Hi all, > >A lot of you are able to instantly find LaTeX packages to solve random >problems. I can't do that and want to learn how. I know of the >existence of ctan.org just like everyone else, but there's something in >my mental makeup that's different from yours, and I want to adopt your >beliefs and your mindset in order to produce your results. > >I know to most of you this sounds trivial and self-explanatory, but to >me it's anything but, so please tell me your beliefs, mindset and >techniques as you search for a package to solve a specific problem. > >Thanks so much, > >SteveT I have taken the liberty of starting a new thread because it's a good question, though I would expand that by asking where the packages should be placed in the /home/{user}/.lyx or the /usr/share/lyx directories. I don't know where they should go but just guess, by file association. Place them where .sty, or whatever files exist, and if they are in more than one directory try them in several places till "Reconfigure" or "texhash" does it's work and finds them. In reply to the above: in http://ctan.org/ type into the "Search" aperture what it is you need and allow it to be found. Doing that with vancouver for instance, takes you on the journey to the files. Which of them is required and where to put them is another question? In my case I would seek out where .bib, bst, and .tex files reside and place each there. Probably doesn't help at all. Charlie -- Registered Linux User:- 329524 *** At a given moment I open my eyes and exist. And before that, during all eternity, what was there? Nothing. - Ugo Betti *** Debian GNU/Linux - just the best way to create magic -
Re: Finding packages............
On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 07:52:03 +1100, Charlie said: > > >Hi all, > > > >A lot of you are able to instantly find LaTeX packages to solve > >random problems. I can't do that and want to learn how. I know of the > >existence of ctan.org just like everyone else, but there's something > >in my mental makeup that's different from yours, and I want to adopt > >your beliefs and your mindset in order to produce your results. > > > >I know to most of you this sounds trivial and self-explanatory, but > >to me it's anything but, so please tell me your beliefs, mindset and > >techniques as you search for a package to solve a specific problem. > > > >Thanks so much, > > > >SteveT > > I have taken the liberty of starting a new thread because it's a good > question, though I would expand that by asking where the packages > should be placed in the /home/{user}/.lyx or the /usr/share/lyx > directories. I don't know where they should go but just guess, by file > association. > > Place them where .sty, or whatever files exist, and if they are in > more than one directory try them in several places till "Reconfigure" > or "texhash" does it's work and finds them. > > In reply to the above: in http://ctan.org/ type into the "Search" > aperture what it is you need and allow it to be found. > > Doing that with vancouver for instance, takes you on the journey to > the files. Which of them is required and where to put them is another > question? > > In my case I would seek out where .bib, bst, and .tex files reside and > place each there. > > Probably doesn't help at all. > > Charlie Thanks Charlie, It's definitely a start. Let me ask you this: If you needed to have all lines with monospace type break correctly, and didn't want to use \begin{sloppy} and \end{sloppy} on every paragraph with monospace, what would be your thought process in attempting to find a package to accommodate this? I'm not at all interested in the package name, I'm asking about your thought process in the search. Thanks SteveT Steve Litt* http://www.troubleshooters.com/ * http://twitter.com/stevelitt Troubleshooting Training * Human Performance
Re: Finding packages............
On Sun, 13 Jan 2013 16:12:10 -0500, Steve Litt wrote: On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 07:52:03 +1100, Charlie said: >Hi all, > >A lot of you are able to instantly find LaTeX packages to solve >random problems. I can't do that and want to learn how. I know of the >existence of ctan.org just like everyone else, but there's something >in my mental makeup that's different from yours, and I want to adopt >your beliefs and your mindset in order to produce your results. > >I know to most of you this sounds trivial and self-explanatory, but >to me it's anything but, so please tell me your beliefs, mindset and >techniques as you search for a package to solve a specific problem. > >Thanks so much, > >SteveT I have taken the liberty of starting a new thread because it's a good question, though I would expand that by asking where the packages should be placed in the /home/{user}/.lyx or the /usr/share/lyx directories. I don't know where they should go but just guess, by file association. Place them where .sty, or whatever files exist, and if they are in more than one directory try them in several places till "Reconfigure" or "texhash" does it's work and finds them. In reply to the above: in http://ctan.org/ type into the "Search" aperture what it is you need and allow it to be found. Doing that with vancouver for instance, takes you on the journey to the files. Which of them is required and where to put them is another question? In my case I would seek out where .bib, bst, and .tex files reside and place each there. Probably doesn't help at all. Charlie Thanks Charlie, It's definitely a start. Let me ask you this: If you needed to have all lines with monospace type break correctly, and didn't want to use \begin{sloppy} and \end{sloppy} on every paragraph with monospace, what would be your thought process in attempting to find a package to accommodate this? I'm not at all interested in the package name, I'm asking about your thought process in the search. Thanks SteveT On Sun, 13 Jan 2013 16:12:10 -0500 "Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com" suggested this: Let me ask you this: If you needed to have all lines with monospace type break correctly, and didn't want to use \begin{sloppy} and \end{sloppy} on every paragraph with monospace, what would be your thought process in attempting to find a package to accommodate this? I'm not at all interested in the package name, I'm asking about your thought process in the search. Firstly, I must admit that I didn't know what monospace font was, so I googled it, which is always my first port of call for any unknown. Using all manner of search terms rather than trolling through the pages of links that Google puts up. Then I see what you're talking about, as a document in Latin Modern Typewriter is created. Now that I have an idea what monospace fonts are, and see the ragged edge at the right of the page, I can move on. So would firstly see what LyX has to offer in the document settings with regard to “justify”. Finding that, failing to create the desired result, would probably use the search term “justify words in a sentence” using Google. Because if someone were writing about monospace in a document for someone like me who has no idea how to do it, they might use a dumbed down term. I'm an uneducated man. Later I would use the word monospace to ensure that some of the more technical solutions would be visible. Now it depends just how much I want the effect of in line text on both sides of the page. If I was really bloody minded I would try different document classes first. I would try all the options and the ERT's and the preamble inserts and look for the results on each attempt. I would place some of the preamble commands in different places in the preamble and even try the preamble commands in ERT's. I would keep writing and polishing my document, so all this experimenting might happen over a period of days or weeks, coming upon a writing abyss and needing to move away from it to find the solution. Try new search terms used on Google any new wrinkle thought of would be tried. I would post on this list and ask if anyone had any ideas/solutions or off the wall suggestions. If I found a package during my Googling that looks promising I may download it, then try to put it where it should be and give it a larrup. But being a Debian user, tend to stay with what's available and installed by default, but not devoutly. When crafting the text has finished I would try the various document classes, view them, select the one I liked best, after accepting the limitations of each and give up trying for my prejudice of perfection. Charlie -- ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** Registered Linux User:- 329524 *** Every man is guilty of all the good he didn't do. -Voltaire *** Debian GNU/Linux - just the best way to create magic