Re: Finding packages............

2013-01-14 Thread Rainer M Krug
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On 14/01/13 03:09, aries...@skymesh.com.au wrote:
 On Sun, 13 Jan 2013 16:12:10 -0500, Steve Litt wrote:
 On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 07:52:03 +1100, Charlie said:
 
 Hi all,
 
 A lot of you are able to instantly find LaTeX packages to solve random 
 problems. I can't 
 do that and want to learn how. I know of the existence of ctan.org just 
 like everyone 
 else, but there's something in my mental makeup that's different from 
 yours, and I want 
 to adopt your beliefs and your mindset in order to produce your results.
 
 I know to most of you this sounds trivial and self-explanatory, but to me 
 it's anything 
 but, so please tell me your beliefs, mindset and techniques as you search 
 for a package 
 to solve a specific problem.
 
 Thanks so much,
 
 SteveT
 
 I have taken the liberty of starting a new thread because it's a good 
 question, though I 
 would expand that by asking where the packages should be placed in the 
 /home/{user}/.lyx
 or the /usr/share/lyx directories. I don't know where they should go but 
 just guess, by
 file association.
 
 Place them where .sty, or whatever files exist, and if they are in more 
 than one directory 
 try them in several places till Reconfigure or texhash does it's work 
 and finds them.
 
 In reply to the above: in http://ctan.org/ type into the Search aperture 
 what it is you 
 need and allow it to be found.
 
 Doing that with vancouver for instance, takes you on the journey to the 
 files. Which of 
 them is required and where to put them is another question?
 
 In my case I would seek out where .bib, bst, and .tex files reside and 
 place each there.
 
 Probably doesn't help at all.
 
 Charlie
 
 Thanks Charlie,
 
 It's definitely a start.
 
 Let me ask you this: If you needed to have all lines with monospace type 
 break correctly,
 and didn't want to use \begin{sloppy} and \end{sloppy} on every paragraph 
 with monospace,
 what would be your thought process in attempting to find a package to 
 accommodate this? I'm
 not at all interested in the package name, I'm asking about your thought 
 process in the
 search.
 
 Thanks
 
 SteveT
 
 On Sun, 13 Jan 2013 16:12:10 -0500 Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com 
 suggested this:
 
 Let me ask you this: If you needed to have all lines with monospace type 
 break correctly,
 and didn't want to use \begin{sloppy} and \end{sloppy} on every paragraph 
 with monospace,
 what would be your thought process in attempting to find a package to 
 accommodate this? I'm
 not at all interested in the package name, I'm asking about your thought 
 process in the
 search.
 
 Firstly, I must admit that I didn't know what monospace font was, so I 
 googled it, which is 
 always my first port of call for any unknown. Using all manner of search 
 terms rather than 
 trolling through the pages of links that Google puts up.
 
 Then I see what you're talking about, as a document in Latin Modern 
 Typewriter is created.
 
 Now that I have an idea what monospace fonts are, and see the ragged edge at 
 the right of the 
 page, I can move on. So would firstly see what LyX has to offer in the 
 document settings with 
 regard to “justify”.
 
 Finding that, failing to create the desired result, would probably use the 
 search term
 “justify words in a sentence” using Google. Because if someone were writing 
 about monospace in
 a document for someone like me who has no idea how to do it, they might use a 
 dumbed down
 term. I'm an uneducated man. Later I would use the word monospace to ensure 
 that some of the
 more technical solutions would be visible.
 
 Now it depends just how much I want the effect of in line text on both sides 
 of the page. If I 
 was really bloody minded I would try different document classes first.
 
 I would try all the options and the ERT's and the preamble inserts and look 
 for the results on 
 each attempt. I would place some of the preamble commands in different places 
 in the preamble 
 and even try the preamble commands in ERT's.
 
 I would keep writing and polishing my document, so all this experimenting 
 might happen over a 
 period of days or weeks, coming upon a writing abyss and needing to move away 
 from it to find 
 the solution. Try new search terms used on Google any new wrinkle thought of 
 would be tried.
 
 I would post on this list and ask if anyone had any ideas/solutions or off 
 the wall 
 suggestions.
 
 If I found a package during my Googling that looks promising I may download 
 it, then try to
 put it where it should be and give it a larrup. But being a Debian user, tend 
 to stay with
 what's available and installed by default, but not devoutly.
 
 When crafting the text has finished I would try the various document classes, 
 view them,
 select the one I liked best, after accepting the limitations of each and give 
 up trying for my 
 prejudice of perfection.

And don't forget tex stackexchange (http://tex.stackexchange.com/) - has helped 

Re: Finding packages............

2013-01-14 Thread Rainer M Krug
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On 14/01/13 03:09, aries...@skymesh.com.au wrote:
 On Sun, 13 Jan 2013 16:12:10 -0500, Steve Litt wrote:
 On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 07:52:03 +1100, Charlie said:
 
 Hi all,
 
 A lot of you are able to instantly find LaTeX packages to solve random 
 problems. I can't 
 do that and want to learn how. I know of the existence of ctan.org just 
 like everyone 
 else, but there's something in my mental makeup that's different from 
 yours, and I want 
 to adopt your beliefs and your mindset in order to produce your results.
 
 I know to most of you this sounds trivial and self-explanatory, but to me 
 it's anything 
 but, so please tell me your beliefs, mindset and techniques as you search 
 for a package 
 to solve a specific problem.
 
 Thanks so much,
 
 SteveT
 
 I have taken the liberty of starting a new thread because it's a good 
 question, though I 
 would expand that by asking where the packages should be placed in the 
 /home/{user}/.lyx
 or the /usr/share/lyx directories. I don't know where they should go but 
 just guess, by
 file association.
 
 Place them where .sty, or whatever files exist, and if they are in more 
 than one directory 
 try them in several places till Reconfigure or texhash does it's work 
 and finds them.
 
 In reply to the above: in http://ctan.org/ type into the Search aperture 
 what it is you 
 need and allow it to be found.
 
 Doing that with vancouver for instance, takes you on the journey to the 
 files. Which of 
 them is required and where to put them is another question?
 
 In my case I would seek out where .bib, bst, and .tex files reside and 
 place each there.
 
 Probably doesn't help at all.
 
 Charlie
 
 Thanks Charlie,
 
 It's definitely a start.
 
 Let me ask you this: If you needed to have all lines with monospace type 
 break correctly,
 and didn't want to use \begin{sloppy} and \end{sloppy} on every paragraph 
 with monospace,
 what would be your thought process in attempting to find a package to 
 accommodate this? I'm
 not at all interested in the package name, I'm asking about your thought 
 process in the
 search.
 
 Thanks
 
 SteveT
 
 On Sun, 13 Jan 2013 16:12:10 -0500 Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com 
 suggested this:
 
 Let me ask you this: If you needed to have all lines with monospace type 
 break correctly,
 and didn't want to use \begin{sloppy} and \end{sloppy} on every paragraph 
 with monospace,
 what would be your thought process in attempting to find a package to 
 accommodate this? I'm
 not at all interested in the package name, I'm asking about your thought 
 process in the
 search.
 
 Firstly, I must admit that I didn't know what monospace font was, so I 
 googled it, which is 
 always my first port of call for any unknown. Using all manner of search 
 terms rather than 
 trolling through the pages of links that Google puts up.
 
 Then I see what you're talking about, as a document in Latin Modern 
 Typewriter is created.
 
 Now that I have an idea what monospace fonts are, and see the ragged edge at 
 the right of the 
 page, I can move on. So would firstly see what LyX has to offer in the 
 document settings with 
 regard to “justify”.
 
 Finding that, failing to create the desired result, would probably use the 
 search term
 “justify words in a sentence” using Google. Because if someone were writing 
 about monospace in
 a document for someone like me who has no idea how to do it, they might use a 
 dumbed down
 term. I'm an uneducated man. Later I would use the word monospace to ensure 
 that some of the
 more technical solutions would be visible.
 
 Now it depends just how much I want the effect of in line text on both sides 
 of the page. If I 
 was really bloody minded I would try different document classes first.
 
 I would try all the options and the ERT's and the preamble inserts and look 
 for the results on 
 each attempt. I would place some of the preamble commands in different places 
 in the preamble 
 and even try the preamble commands in ERT's.
 
 I would keep writing and polishing my document, so all this experimenting 
 might happen over a 
 period of days or weeks, coming upon a writing abyss and needing to move away 
 from it to find 
 the solution. Try new search terms used on Google any new wrinkle thought of 
 would be tried.
 
 I would post on this list and ask if anyone had any ideas/solutions or off 
 the wall 
 suggestions.
 
 If I found a package during my Googling that looks promising I may download 
 it, then try to
 put it where it should be and give it a larrup. But being a Debian user, tend 
 to stay with
 what's available and installed by default, but not devoutly.
 
 When crafting the text has finished I would try the various document classes, 
 view them,
 select the one I liked best, after accepting the limitations of each and give 
 up trying for my 
 prejudice of perfection.

And don't forget tex stackexchange (http://tex.stackexchange.com/) - has helped 

Re: Finding packages............

2013-01-14 Thread Rainer M Krug
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On 14/01/13 03:09, aries...@skymesh.com.au wrote:
> On Sun, 13 Jan 2013 16:12:10 -0500, Steve Litt wrote:
>> On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 07:52:03 +1100, Charlie said:
>>> 
 Hi all,
 
 A lot of you are able to instantly find LaTeX packages to solve random 
 problems. I can't 
 do that and want to learn how. I know of the existence of ctan.org just 
 like everyone 
 else, but there's something in my mental makeup that's different from 
 yours, and I want 
 to adopt your beliefs and your mindset in order to produce your results.
 
 I know to most of you this sounds trivial and self-explanatory, but to me 
 it's anything 
 but, so please tell me your beliefs, mindset and techniques as you search 
 for a package 
 to solve a specific problem.
 
 Thanks so much,
 
 SteveT
>>> 
>>> I have taken the liberty of starting a new thread because it's a good 
>>> question, though I 
>>> would expand that by asking where the packages should be placed in the 
>>> /home/{user}/.lyx
>>> or the /usr/share/lyx directories. I don't know where they should go but 
>>> just guess, by
>>> file association.
>>> 
>>> Place them where .sty, or whatever files exist, and if they are in more 
>>> than one directory 
>>> try them in several places till "Reconfigure" or "texhash" does it's work 
>>> and finds them.
>>> 
>>> In reply to the above: in http://ctan.org/ type into the "Search" aperture 
>>> what it is you 
>>> need and allow it to be found.
>>> 
>>> Doing that with vancouver for instance, takes you on the journey to the 
>>> files. Which of 
>>> them is required and where to put them is another question?
>>> 
>>> In my case I would seek out where .bib, bst, and .tex files reside and 
>>> place each there.
>>> 
>>> Probably doesn't help at all.
>>> 
>>> Charlie
>> 
>> Thanks Charlie,
>> 
>> It's definitely a start.
>> 
>> Let me ask you this: If you needed to have all lines with monospace type 
>> break correctly,
>> and didn't want to use \begin{sloppy} and \end{sloppy} on every paragraph 
>> with monospace,
>> what would be your thought process in attempting to find a package to 
>> accommodate this? I'm
>> not at all interested in the package name, I'm asking about your thought 
>> process in the
>> search.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> SteveT
> 
> On Sun, 13 Jan 2013 16:12:10 -0500 "Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com" 
> suggested this:
> 
>> Let me ask you this: If you needed to have all lines with monospace type 
>> break correctly,
>> and didn't want to use \begin{sloppy} and \end{sloppy} on every paragraph 
>> with monospace,
>> what would be your thought process in attempting to find a package to 
>> accommodate this? I'm
>> not at all interested in the package name, I'm asking about your thought 
>> process in the
>> search.
> 
> Firstly, I must admit that I didn't know what monospace font was, so I 
> googled it, which is 
> always my first port of call for any unknown. Using all manner of search 
> terms rather than 
> trolling through the pages of links that Google puts up.
> 
> Then I see what you're talking about, as a document in Latin Modern 
> Typewriter is created.
> 
> Now that I have an idea what monospace fonts are, and see the ragged edge at 
> the right of the 
> page, I can move on. So would firstly see what LyX has to offer in the 
> document settings with 
> regard to “justify”.
> 
> Finding that, failing to create the desired result, would probably use the 
> search term
> “justify words in a sentence” using Google. Because if someone were writing 
> about monospace in
> a document for someone like me who has no idea how to do it, they might use a 
> dumbed down
> term. I'm an uneducated man. Later I would use the word monospace to ensure 
> that some of the
> more technical solutions would be visible.
> 
> Now it depends just how much I want the effect of in line text on both sides 
> of the page. If I 
> was really bloody minded I would try different document classes first.
> 
> I would try all the options and the ERT's and the preamble inserts and look 
> for the results on 
> each attempt. I would place some of the preamble commands in different places 
> in the preamble 
> and even try the preamble commands in ERT's.
> 
> I would keep writing and polishing my document, so all this experimenting 
> might happen over a 
> period of days or weeks, coming upon a writing abyss and needing to move away 
> from it to find 
> the solution. Try new search terms used on Google any new wrinkle thought of 
> would be tried.
> 
> I would post on this list and ask if anyone had any ideas/solutions or off 
> the wall 
> suggestions.
> 
> If I found a package during my Googling that looks promising I may download 
> it, then try to
> put it where it should be and give it a larrup. But being a Debian user, tend 
> to stay with
> what's available and installed by default, but not devoutly.
> 
> When 

Finding packages............

2013-01-13 Thread Charlie

Hi all,

A lot of you are able to instantly find LaTeX packages to solve random
problems. I can't do that and want to learn how. I know of the
existence of ctan.org just like everyone else, but there's something in
my mental makeup that's different from yours, and I want to adopt your
beliefs and your mindset in order to produce your results.

I know to most of you this sounds trivial and self-explanatory, but to
me it's anything but, so please tell me your beliefs, mindset and
techniques as you search for a package to solve a specific problem.

Thanks so much,

SteveT

I have taken the liberty of starting a new thread because it's a good
question, though I would expand that by asking where the packages
should be placed in the /home/{user}/.lyx or the /usr/share/lyx
directories. I don't know where they should go but just guess, by file
association.

Place them where .sty, or whatever files exist, and if they are in more
than one directory try them in several places till Reconfigure
or texhash does it's work and finds them.

In reply to the above: in http://ctan.org/ type into the Search
aperture what it is you need and allow it to be found.

Doing that with vancouver for instance, takes you on the journey to the
files. Which of them is required and where to put them is another
question?

In my case I would seek out where .bib, bst, and .tex files reside and
place each there.

Probably doesn't help at all.

Charlie
-- 
Registered Linux User:- 329524
***

At a given moment I open my eyes and exist. And before that,
during all eternity, what was there? Nothing. - Ugo Betti

***

Debian GNU/Linux - just the best way to create magic

-


Re: Finding packages............

2013-01-13 Thread Steve Litt
On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 07:52:03 +1100, Charlie said:
 
   Hi all,
 
 A lot of you are able to instantly find LaTeX packages to solve
 random problems. I can't do that and want to learn how. I know of the
 existence of ctan.org just like everyone else, but there's something
 in my mental makeup that's different from yours, and I want to adopt
 your beliefs and your mindset in order to produce your results.
 
 I know to most of you this sounds trivial and self-explanatory, but
 to me it's anything but, so please tell me your beliefs, mindset and
 techniques as you search for a package to solve a specific problem.
 
 Thanks so much,
 
 SteveT
 
 I have taken the liberty of starting a new thread because it's a good
 question, though I would expand that by asking where the packages
 should be placed in the /home/{user}/.lyx or the /usr/share/lyx
 directories. I don't know where they should go but just guess, by file
 association.
 
 Place them where .sty, or whatever files exist, and if they are in
 more than one directory try them in several places till Reconfigure
 or texhash does it's work and finds them.
 
 In reply to the above: in http://ctan.org/ type into the Search
 aperture what it is you need and allow it to be found.
 
 Doing that with vancouver for instance, takes you on the journey to
 the files. Which of them is required and where to put them is another
 question?
 
 In my case I would seek out where .bib, bst, and .tex files reside and
 place each there.
 
 Probably doesn't help at all.
 
 Charlie

Thanks Charlie,

It's definitely a start.

Let me ask you this: If you needed to have all lines with monospace
type break correctly, and didn't want to use \begin{sloppy} and
\end{sloppy} on every paragraph with monospace, what would be your
thought process in attempting to find a package to accommodate this?
I'm not at all interested in the package name, I'm asking about your
thought process in the search.

Thanks

SteveT

Steve Litt*  http://www.troubleshooters.com/
  *  http://twitter.com/stevelitt
Troubleshooting Training  *  Human Performance



Re: Finding packages............

2013-01-13 Thread ariestao

On Sun, 13 Jan 2013 16:12:10 -0500, Steve Litt wrote:

On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 07:52:03 +1100, Charlie said:


Hi all,

A lot of you are able to instantly find LaTeX packages to solve
random problems. I can't do that and want to learn how. I know of 
the
existence of ctan.org just like everyone else, but there's 
something
in my mental makeup that's different from yours, and I want to 
adopt

your beliefs and your mindset in order to produce your results.

I know to most of you this sounds trivial and self-explanatory, but
to me it's anything but, so please tell me your beliefs, mindset 
and

techniques as you search for a package to solve a specific problem.

Thanks so much,

SteveT

I have taken the liberty of starting a new thread because it's a 
good

question, though I would expand that by asking where the packages
should be placed in the /home/{user}/.lyx or the /usr/share/lyx
directories. I don't know where they should go but just guess, by 
file

association.

Place them where .sty, or whatever files exist, and if they are in
more than one directory try them in several places till 
Reconfigure

or texhash does it's work and finds them.

In reply to the above: in http://ctan.org/ type into the Search
aperture what it is you need and allow it to be found.

Doing that with vancouver for instance, takes you on the journey to
the files. Which of them is required and where to put them is 
another

question?

In my case I would seek out where .bib, bst, and .tex files reside 
and

place each there.

Probably doesn't help at all.

Charlie


Thanks Charlie,

It's definitely a start.

Let me ask you this: If you needed to have all lines with monospace
type break correctly, and didn't want to use \begin{sloppy} and
\end{sloppy} on every paragraph with monospace, what would be your
thought process in attempting to find a package to accommodate this?
I'm not at all interested in the package name, I'm asking about your
thought process in the search.

Thanks

SteveT


 On Sun, 13 Jan 2013 16:12:10 -0500 Steve Litt
 sl...@troubleshooters.com suggested this:


Let me ask you this: If you needed to have all lines with monospace
type break correctly, and didn't want to use \begin{sloppy} and
\end{sloppy} on every paragraph with monospace, what would be your
thought process in attempting to find a package to accommodate this?
I'm not at all interested in the package name, I'm asking about your
thought process in the search.


Firstly, I must admit that I didn't know what monospace font was, so I
googled it, which is always my first port of call for any unknown. 
Using

all manner of search terms rather than trolling through the pages of
links that Google puts up.

Then I see what you're talking about, as a document in Latin Modern
Typewriter is created.

Now that I have an idea what monospace fonts are, and see the ragged
edge at the right of the page, I can move on. So would firstly see what
LyX has to offer in the document settings with regard to “justify”.

Finding that, failing to create the desired result, would probably use
the search term “justify words in a sentence” using Google. Because if
someone were writing about monospace in a document for someone like me
who has no idea how to do it, they might use a dumbed down term. I'm an
uneducated man. Later I would use the word monospace to ensure that
some of the more technical solutions would be visible.

Now it depends just how much I want the effect of in line text on both
sides of the page. If I was really bloody minded I would try different
document classes first.

I would try all the options and the ERT's and the preamble inserts and
look for the results on each attempt. I would place some of the
preamble commands in different places in the preamble and even try the
preamble commands in ERT's.

I would keep writing and polishing my document, so all this
experimenting might happen over a period of days or weeks, coming upon
a writing abyss and needing to move away from it to find the solution.
Try new search terms used on Google any new wrinkle thought of would be
tried.

I would post on this list and ask if anyone had any ideas/solutions or
off the wall suggestions.

If I found a package during my Googling that looks promising I may
download it, then try to put it where it should be and give it a
larrup. But being a Debian user, tend to stay with what's available and
installed by default, but not devoutly.

When crafting the text has finished I would try the various document
classes, view them, select the one I liked best, after accepting the
limitations of each and give up trying for my prejudice of perfection.

Charlie
--
**  **  **  **  **  **  **  **  **  **
Registered Linux User:- 329524
***

Every man is guilty of all the good he didn't do. -Voltaire

***
Debian GNU/Linux - just the best way to create magic
___


Finding packages............

2013-01-13 Thread Charlie

Hi all,

A lot of you are able to instantly find LaTeX packages to solve random
problems. I can't do that and want to learn how. I know of the
existence of ctan.org just like everyone else, but there's something in
my mental makeup that's different from yours, and I want to adopt your
beliefs and your mindset in order to produce your results.

I know to most of you this sounds trivial and self-explanatory, but to
me it's anything but, so please tell me your beliefs, mindset and
techniques as you search for a package to solve a specific problem.

Thanks so much,

SteveT

I have taken the liberty of starting a new thread because it's a good
question, though I would expand that by asking where the packages
should be placed in the /home/{user}/.lyx or the /usr/share/lyx
directories. I don't know where they should go but just guess, by file
association.

Place them where .sty, or whatever files exist, and if they are in more
than one directory try them in several places till Reconfigure
or texhash does it's work and finds them.

In reply to the above: in http://ctan.org/ type into the Search
aperture what it is you need and allow it to be found.

Doing that with vancouver for instance, takes you on the journey to the
files. Which of them is required and where to put them is another
question?

In my case I would seek out where .bib, bst, and .tex files reside and
place each there.

Probably doesn't help at all.

Charlie
-- 
Registered Linux User:- 329524
***

At a given moment I open my eyes and exist. And before that,
during all eternity, what was there? Nothing. - Ugo Betti

***

Debian GNU/Linux - just the best way to create magic

-


Re: Finding packages............

2013-01-13 Thread Steve Litt
On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 07:52:03 +1100, Charlie said:
 
   Hi all,
 
 A lot of you are able to instantly find LaTeX packages to solve
 random problems. I can't do that and want to learn how. I know of the
 existence of ctan.org just like everyone else, but there's something
 in my mental makeup that's different from yours, and I want to adopt
 your beliefs and your mindset in order to produce your results.
 
 I know to most of you this sounds trivial and self-explanatory, but
 to me it's anything but, so please tell me your beliefs, mindset and
 techniques as you search for a package to solve a specific problem.
 
 Thanks so much,
 
 SteveT
 
 I have taken the liberty of starting a new thread because it's a good
 question, though I would expand that by asking where the packages
 should be placed in the /home/{user}/.lyx or the /usr/share/lyx
 directories. I don't know where they should go but just guess, by file
 association.
 
 Place them where .sty, or whatever files exist, and if they are in
 more than one directory try them in several places till Reconfigure
 or texhash does it's work and finds them.
 
 In reply to the above: in http://ctan.org/ type into the Search
 aperture what it is you need and allow it to be found.
 
 Doing that with vancouver for instance, takes you on the journey to
 the files. Which of them is required and where to put them is another
 question?
 
 In my case I would seek out where .bib, bst, and .tex files reside and
 place each there.
 
 Probably doesn't help at all.
 
 Charlie

Thanks Charlie,

It's definitely a start.

Let me ask you this: If you needed to have all lines with monospace
type break correctly, and didn't want to use \begin{sloppy} and
\end{sloppy} on every paragraph with monospace, what would be your
thought process in attempting to find a package to accommodate this?
I'm not at all interested in the package name, I'm asking about your
thought process in the search.

Thanks

SteveT

Steve Litt*  http://www.troubleshooters.com/
  *  http://twitter.com/stevelitt
Troubleshooting Training  *  Human Performance



Re: Finding packages............

2013-01-13 Thread ariestao

On Sun, 13 Jan 2013 16:12:10 -0500, Steve Litt wrote:

On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 07:52:03 +1100, Charlie said:


Hi all,

A lot of you are able to instantly find LaTeX packages to solve
random problems. I can't do that and want to learn how. I know of 
the
existence of ctan.org just like everyone else, but there's 
something
in my mental makeup that's different from yours, and I want to 
adopt

your beliefs and your mindset in order to produce your results.

I know to most of you this sounds trivial and self-explanatory, but
to me it's anything but, so please tell me your beliefs, mindset 
and

techniques as you search for a package to solve a specific problem.

Thanks so much,

SteveT

I have taken the liberty of starting a new thread because it's a 
good

question, though I would expand that by asking where the packages
should be placed in the /home/{user}/.lyx or the /usr/share/lyx
directories. I don't know where they should go but just guess, by 
file

association.

Place them where .sty, or whatever files exist, and if they are in
more than one directory try them in several places till 
Reconfigure

or texhash does it's work and finds them.

In reply to the above: in http://ctan.org/ type into the Search
aperture what it is you need and allow it to be found.

Doing that with vancouver for instance, takes you on the journey to
the files. Which of them is required and where to put them is 
another

question?

In my case I would seek out where .bib, bst, and .tex files reside 
and

place each there.

Probably doesn't help at all.

Charlie


Thanks Charlie,

It's definitely a start.

Let me ask you this: If you needed to have all lines with monospace
type break correctly, and didn't want to use \begin{sloppy} and
\end{sloppy} on every paragraph with monospace, what would be your
thought process in attempting to find a package to accommodate this?
I'm not at all interested in the package name, I'm asking about your
thought process in the search.

Thanks

SteveT


 On Sun, 13 Jan 2013 16:12:10 -0500 Steve Litt
 sl...@troubleshooters.com suggested this:


Let me ask you this: If you needed to have all lines with monospace
type break correctly, and didn't want to use \begin{sloppy} and
\end{sloppy} on every paragraph with monospace, what would be your
thought process in attempting to find a package to accommodate this?
I'm not at all interested in the package name, I'm asking about your
thought process in the search.


Firstly, I must admit that I didn't know what monospace font was, so I
googled it, which is always my first port of call for any unknown. 
Using

all manner of search terms rather than trolling through the pages of
links that Google puts up.

Then I see what you're talking about, as a document in Latin Modern
Typewriter is created.

Now that I have an idea what monospace fonts are, and see the ragged
edge at the right of the page, I can move on. So would firstly see what
LyX has to offer in the document settings with regard to “justify”.

Finding that, failing to create the desired result, would probably use
the search term “justify words in a sentence” using Google. Because if
someone were writing about monospace in a document for someone like me
who has no idea how to do it, they might use a dumbed down term. I'm an
uneducated man. Later I would use the word monospace to ensure that
some of the more technical solutions would be visible.

Now it depends just how much I want the effect of in line text on both
sides of the page. If I was really bloody minded I would try different
document classes first.

I would try all the options and the ERT's and the preamble inserts and
look for the results on each attempt. I would place some of the
preamble commands in different places in the preamble and even try the
preamble commands in ERT's.

I would keep writing and polishing my document, so all this
experimenting might happen over a period of days or weeks, coming upon
a writing abyss and needing to move away from it to find the solution.
Try new search terms used on Google any new wrinkle thought of would be
tried.

I would post on this list and ask if anyone had any ideas/solutions or
off the wall suggestions.

If I found a package during my Googling that looks promising I may
download it, then try to put it where it should be and give it a
larrup. But being a Debian user, tend to stay with what's available and
installed by default, but not devoutly.

When crafting the text has finished I would try the various document
classes, view them, select the one I liked best, after accepting the
limitations of each and give up trying for my prejudice of perfection.

Charlie
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Finding packages............

2013-01-13 Thread Charlie

>Hi all,
>
>A lot of you are able to instantly find LaTeX packages to solve random
>problems. I can't do that and want to learn how. I know of the
>existence of ctan.org just like everyone else, but there's something in
>my mental makeup that's different from yours, and I want to adopt your
>beliefs and your mindset in order to produce your results.
>
>I know to most of you this sounds trivial and self-explanatory, but to
>me it's anything but, so please tell me your beliefs, mindset and
>techniques as you search for a package to solve a specific problem.
>
>Thanks so much,
>
>SteveT

I have taken the liberty of starting a new thread because it's a good
question, though I would expand that by asking where the packages
should be placed in the /home/{user}/.lyx or the /usr/share/lyx
directories. I don't know where they should go but just guess, by file
association.

Place them where .sty, or whatever files exist, and if they are in more
than one directory try them in several places till "Reconfigure"
or "texhash" does it's work and finds them.

In reply to the above: in http://ctan.org/ type into the "Search"
aperture what it is you need and allow it to be found.

Doing that with vancouver for instance, takes you on the journey to the
files. Which of them is required and where to put them is another
question?

In my case I would seek out where .bib, bst, and .tex files reside and
place each there.

Probably doesn't help at all.

Charlie
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Re: Finding packages............

2013-01-13 Thread Steve Litt
On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 07:52:03 +1100, Charlie said:
> 
>   >Hi all,
> >
> >A lot of you are able to instantly find LaTeX packages to solve
> >random problems. I can't do that and want to learn how. I know of the
> >existence of ctan.org just like everyone else, but there's something
> >in my mental makeup that's different from yours, and I want to adopt
> >your beliefs and your mindset in order to produce your results.
> >
> >I know to most of you this sounds trivial and self-explanatory, but
> >to me it's anything but, so please tell me your beliefs, mindset and
> >techniques as you search for a package to solve a specific problem.
> >
> >Thanks so much,
> >
> >SteveT
> 
> I have taken the liberty of starting a new thread because it's a good
> question, though I would expand that by asking where the packages
> should be placed in the /home/{user}/.lyx or the /usr/share/lyx
> directories. I don't know where they should go but just guess, by file
> association.
> 
> Place them where .sty, or whatever files exist, and if they are in
> more than one directory try them in several places till "Reconfigure"
> or "texhash" does it's work and finds them.
> 
> In reply to the above: in http://ctan.org/ type into the "Search"
> aperture what it is you need and allow it to be found.
> 
> Doing that with vancouver for instance, takes you on the journey to
> the files. Which of them is required and where to put them is another
> question?
> 
> In my case I would seek out where .bib, bst, and .tex files reside and
> place each there.
> 
> Probably doesn't help at all.
> 
> Charlie

Thanks Charlie,

It's definitely a start.

Let me ask you this: If you needed to have all lines with monospace
type break correctly, and didn't want to use \begin{sloppy} and
\end{sloppy} on every paragraph with monospace, what would be your
thought process in attempting to find a package to accommodate this?
I'm not at all interested in the package name, I'm asking about your
thought process in the search.

Thanks

SteveT

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Re: Finding packages............

2013-01-13 Thread ariestao

On Sun, 13 Jan 2013 16:12:10 -0500, Steve Litt wrote:

On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 07:52:03 +1100, Charlie said:


>Hi all,
>
>A lot of you are able to instantly find LaTeX packages to solve
>random problems. I can't do that and want to learn how. I know of 
the
>existence of ctan.org just like everyone else, but there's 
something
>in my mental makeup that's different from yours, and I want to 
adopt

>your beliefs and your mindset in order to produce your results.
>
>I know to most of you this sounds trivial and self-explanatory, but
>to me it's anything but, so please tell me your beliefs, mindset 
and

>techniques as you search for a package to solve a specific problem.
>
>Thanks so much,
>
>SteveT

I have taken the liberty of starting a new thread because it's a 
good

question, though I would expand that by asking where the packages
should be placed in the /home/{user}/.lyx or the /usr/share/lyx
directories. I don't know where they should go but just guess, by 
file

association.

Place them where .sty, or whatever files exist, and if they are in
more than one directory try them in several places till 
"Reconfigure"

or "texhash" does it's work and finds them.

In reply to the above: in http://ctan.org/ type into the "Search"
aperture what it is you need and allow it to be found.

Doing that with vancouver for instance, takes you on the journey to
the files. Which of them is required and where to put them is 
another

question?

In my case I would seek out where .bib, bst, and .tex files reside 
and

place each there.

Probably doesn't help at all.

Charlie


Thanks Charlie,

It's definitely a start.

Let me ask you this: If you needed to have all lines with monospace
type break correctly, and didn't want to use \begin{sloppy} and
\end{sloppy} on every paragraph with monospace, what would be your
thought process in attempting to find a package to accommodate this?
I'm not at all interested in the package name, I'm asking about your
thought process in the search.

Thanks

SteveT


 On Sun, 13 Jan 2013 16:12:10 -0500 "Steve Litt
 sl...@troubleshooters.com" suggested this:


Let me ask you this: If you needed to have all lines with monospace
type break correctly, and didn't want to use \begin{sloppy} and
\end{sloppy} on every paragraph with monospace, what would be your
thought process in attempting to find a package to accommodate this?
I'm not at all interested in the package name, I'm asking about your
thought process in the search.


Firstly, I must admit that I didn't know what monospace font was, so I
googled it, which is always my first port of call for any unknown. 
Using

all manner of search terms rather than trolling through the pages of
links that Google puts up.

Then I see what you're talking about, as a document in Latin Modern
Typewriter is created.

Now that I have an idea what monospace fonts are, and see the ragged
edge at the right of the page, I can move on. So would firstly see what
LyX has to offer in the document settings with regard to “justify”.

Finding that, failing to create the desired result, would probably use
the search term “justify words in a sentence” using Google. Because if
someone were writing about monospace in a document for someone like me
who has no idea how to do it, they might use a dumbed down term. I'm an
uneducated man. Later I would use the word monospace to ensure that
some of the more technical solutions would be visible.

Now it depends just how much I want the effect of in line text on both
sides of the page. If I was really bloody minded I would try different
document classes first.

I would try all the options and the ERT's and the preamble inserts and
look for the results on each attempt. I would place some of the
preamble commands in different places in the preamble and even try the
preamble commands in ERT's.

I would keep writing and polishing my document, so all this
experimenting might happen over a period of days or weeks, coming upon
a writing abyss and needing to move away from it to find the solution.
Try new search terms used on Google any new wrinkle thought of would be
tried.

I would post on this list and ask if anyone had any ideas/solutions or
off the wall suggestions.

If I found a package during my Googling that looks promising I may
download it, then try to put it where it should be and give it a
larrup. But being a Debian user, tend to stay with what's available and
installed by default, but not devoutly.

When crafting the text has finished I would try the various document
classes, view them, select the one I liked best, after accepting the
limitations of each and give up trying for my prejudice of perfection.

Charlie
--
**  **  **  **  **  **  **  **  **  **
Registered Linux User:- 329524
***

Every man is guilty of all the good he didn't do. -Voltaire

***
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