Re: Footnotes in Greek

2007-01-31 Thread Georg Baum
Stefano Franchi wrote:

 If it is a bug it is not that one. I tried without using footnotes and
 the problem is the same. Changing language insert a \inputenc command
 but not a \selectlanguage command. I assume (from what I know about
 LaTeX) that the latter is needed.

Yes, that is also my understanding.

 If this is true I'll file a bug report. But I may be completely
 misunderstanding how the language selection via menu works, as I have
 never used it.

This is easy: simply select all words that are in greek, and then change the
language to greek in the character format menu.

If that does not result in a selectlanguge command this is indeed a bug.


Georg



Re: Footnotes in Greek

2007-01-31 Thread Stefano Franchi


On 31 Jan, 2007, at 3:16 AM, Georg Baum wrote:


Stefano Franchi wrote:


If it is a bug it is not that one. I tried without using footnotes and
the problem is the same. Changing language insert a \inputenc command
but not a \selectlanguage command. I assume (from what I know about
LaTeX) that the latter is needed.


Yes, that is also my understanding.


If this is true I'll file a bug report. But I may be completely
misunderstanding how the language selection via menu works, as I have
never used it.


This is easy: simply select all words that are in greek, and then 
change the

language to greek in the character format menu.

If that does not result in a selectlanguge command this is indeed a 
bug.





I attach below my test file. There is no Greek output. The LyX source 
file has a \lang greek command in it, just before  the text that's 
supposed to come out in Greek. The corresponding LaTeX file replaces 
the \lang greek with \inputencoding{iso-8859-7} and reverts to the 
normal encoding at the end of the Greek portion: \inputencoding{latin1}
I can't figure out how this is supposed to work. The selectlanguage{} 
statement that I always use when using  different languages require the 
\usepackage{babel} declaration, which LyX does not insert either.


At any rate, I'll file a bug report with what I know (which is very 
little).


Cheers,

S.



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Re: Footnotes in Greek

2007-01-31 Thread Georg Baum
Stefano Franchi wrote:

 If it is a bug it is not that one. I tried without using footnotes and
 the problem is the same. Changing language insert a \inputenc command
 but not a \selectlanguage command. I assume (from what I know about
 LaTeX) that the latter is needed.

Yes, that is also my understanding.

 If this is true I'll file a bug report. But I may be completely
 misunderstanding how the language selection via menu works, as I have
 never used it.

This is easy: simply select all words that are in greek, and then change the
language to greek in the character format menu.

If that does not result in a selectlanguge command this is indeed a bug.


Georg



Re: Footnotes in Greek

2007-01-31 Thread Stefano Franchi


On 31 Jan, 2007, at 3:16 AM, Georg Baum wrote:


Stefano Franchi wrote:


If it is a bug it is not that one. I tried without using footnotes and
the problem is the same. Changing language insert a \inputenc command
but not a \selectlanguage command. I assume (from what I know about
LaTeX) that the latter is needed.


Yes, that is also my understanding.


If this is true I'll file a bug report. But I may be completely
misunderstanding how the language selection via menu works, as I have
never used it.


This is easy: simply select all words that are in greek, and then 
change the

language to greek in the character format menu.

If that does not result in a selectlanguge command this is indeed a 
bug.





I attach below my test file. There is no Greek output. The LyX source 
file has a \lang greek command in it, just before  the text that's 
supposed to come out in Greek. The corresponding LaTeX file replaces 
the \lang greek with \inputencoding{iso-8859-7} and reverts to the 
normal encoding at the end of the Greek portion: \inputencoding{latin1}
I can't figure out how this is supposed to work. The selectlanguage{} 
statement that I always use when using  different languages require the 
\usepackage{babel} declaration, which LyX does not insert either.


At any rate, I'll file a bug report with what I know (which is very 
little).


Cheers,

S.



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Re: Footnotes in Greek

2007-01-31 Thread Georg Baum
Stefano Franchi wrote:

> If it is a bug it is not that one. I tried without using footnotes and
> the problem is the same. Changing language insert a \inputenc command
> but not a \selectlanguage command. I assume (from what I know about
> LaTeX) that the latter is needed.

Yes, that is also my understanding.

> If this is true I'll file a bug report. But I may be completely
> misunderstanding how the language selection via menu works, as I have
> never used it.

This is easy: simply select all words that are in greek, and then change the
language to greek in the character format menu.

If that does not result in a selectlanguge command this is indeed a bug.


Georg



Re: Footnotes in Greek

2007-01-31 Thread Stefano Franchi


On 31 Jan, 2007, at 3:16 AM, Georg Baum wrote:


Stefano Franchi wrote:


If it is a bug it is not that one. I tried without using footnotes and
the problem is the same. Changing language insert a \inputenc command
but not a \selectlanguage command. I assume (from what I know about
LaTeX) that the latter is needed.


Yes, that is also my understanding.


If this is true I'll file a bug report. But I may be completely
misunderstanding how the language selection via menu works, as I have
never used it.


This is easy: simply select all words that are in greek, and then 
change the

language to greek in the character format menu.

If that does not result in a selectlanguge command this is indeed a 
bug.





I attach below my test file. There is no Greek output. The LyX source 
file has a \lang greek command in it, just before  the text that's 
supposed to come out in Greek. The corresponding LaTeX file replaces 
the \lang greek with \inputencoding{iso-8859-7} and reverts to the 
normal encoding at the end of the Greek portion: \inputencoding{latin1}
I can't figure out how this is supposed to work. The selectlanguage{} 
statement that I always use when using  different languages require the 
\usepackage{babel} declaration, which LyX does not insert either.


At any rate, I'll file a bug report with what I know (which is very 
little).


Cheers,

S.



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University Of Auckland  Fax: (64) 9 373-8768
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Re: Footnotes in Greek

2007-01-30 Thread Stefano Franchi


On 29 Jan, 2007, at 3:07 PM, Uwe Stöhr wrote:

What do you need? You only need to load greek for babel when you want 
to have e.g. the section heading names appear in Greek. But as you 
document is in English and you only have text snippets in Greek, 
there's no need for that.


Looking at the exported LaTeX file, I noticed that when Greek text is 
supposed to begin LyX inserts only:

\inputencoding{iso-8859-7}
Isn't supposed to insert also a
\textanguage{greek}  ?


If yes, then it should be
\selectlanguage{greek}



Uwe,

	my mistake, I meant \selectlanguage{greek}, as you said. But I still 
don't understand your answer. Why the \selectlanguage{greek} command is 
not inserted by LyX?

How else can you insert a Greek snippet into an English text?

Cheers,

S.



regards Uwe



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Re: Footnotes in Greek

2007-01-30 Thread Georg Baum
Stefano Franchi wrote:

 my mistake, I meant \selectlanguage{greek}, as you said. But I still
 don't understand your answer. Why the \selectlanguage{greek} command is
 not inserted by LyX?

probably this bug: http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1820


Georg



Re: Footnotes in Greek

2007-01-30 Thread Stefano Franchi


On 30 Jan, 2007, at 8:22 AM, Georg Baum wrote:


Stefano Franchi wrote:


my mistake, I meant \selectlanguage{greek}, as you said. But I still
don't understand your answer. Why the \selectlanguage{greek} command 
is

not inserted by LyX?


probably this bug: http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1820


Georg





If it is a bug it is not that one. I tried without using footnotes and 
the problem is the same. Changing language insert a \inputenc command 
but not a \selectlanguage command. I assume (from what I know about 
LaTeX) that the latter is needed.
If this is true I'll file a bug report. But I may be completely 
misunderstanding how the language selection via menu works, as I have 
never used it.


S.



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University Of Auckland  Fax: (64) 9 373-8768
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Re: Footnotes in Greek

2007-01-30 Thread Stefano Franchi


On 29 Jan, 2007, at 3:07 PM, Uwe Stöhr wrote:

What do you need? You only need to load greek for babel when you want 
to have e.g. the section heading names appear in Greek. But as you 
document is in English and you only have text snippets in Greek, 
there's no need for that.


Looking at the exported LaTeX file, I noticed that when Greek text is 
supposed to begin LyX inserts only:

\inputencoding{iso-8859-7}
Isn't supposed to insert also a
\textanguage{greek}  ?


If yes, then it should be
\selectlanguage{greek}



Uwe,

	my mistake, I meant \selectlanguage{greek}, as you said. But I still 
don't understand your answer. Why the \selectlanguage{greek} command is 
not inserted by LyX?

How else can you insert a Greek snippet into an English text?

Cheers,

S.



regards Uwe



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University Of Auckland  Fax: (64) 9 373-8768
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Re: Footnotes in Greek

2007-01-30 Thread Georg Baum
Stefano Franchi wrote:

 my mistake, I meant \selectlanguage{greek}, as you said. But I still
 don't understand your answer. Why the \selectlanguage{greek} command is
 not inserted by LyX?

probably this bug: http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1820


Georg



Re: Footnotes in Greek

2007-01-30 Thread Stefano Franchi


On 30 Jan, 2007, at 8:22 AM, Georg Baum wrote:


Stefano Franchi wrote:


my mistake, I meant \selectlanguage{greek}, as you said. But I still
don't understand your answer. Why the \selectlanguage{greek} command 
is

not inserted by LyX?


probably this bug: http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1820


Georg





If it is a bug it is not that one. I tried without using footnotes and 
the problem is the same. Changing language insert a \inputenc command 
but not a \selectlanguage command. I assume (from what I know about 
LaTeX) that the latter is needed.
If this is true I'll file a bug report. But I may be completely 
misunderstanding how the language selection via menu works, as I have 
never used it.


S.



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Re: Footnotes in Greek

2007-01-30 Thread Stefano Franchi


On 29 Jan, 2007, at 3:07 PM, Uwe Stöhr wrote:

What do you need? You only need to load greek for babel when you want 
to have e.g. the section heading names appear in Greek. But as you 
document is in English and you only have text snippets in Greek, 
there's no need for that.


Looking at the exported LaTeX file, I noticed that when Greek text is 
supposed to begin LyX inserts only:

\inputencoding{iso-8859-7}
Isn't supposed to insert also a
\textanguage{greek}  ?


If yes, then it should be
\selectlanguage{greek}



Uwe,

	my mistake, I meant \selectlanguage{greek}, as you said. But I still 
don't understand your answer. Why the \selectlanguage{greek} command is 
not inserted by LyX?

How else can you insert a Greek snippet into an English text?

Cheers,

S.



regards Uwe



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University Of Auckland  Fax: (64) 9 373-8768
Private Bag 92019   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Auckland
New Zealand 



Re: Footnotes in Greek

2007-01-30 Thread Georg Baum
Stefano Franchi wrote:

> my mistake, I meant \selectlanguage{greek}, as you said. But I still
> don't understand your answer. Why the \selectlanguage{greek} command is
> not inserted by LyX?

probably this bug: http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1820


Georg



Re: Footnotes in Greek

2007-01-30 Thread Stefano Franchi


On 30 Jan, 2007, at 8:22 AM, Georg Baum wrote:


Stefano Franchi wrote:


my mistake, I meant \selectlanguage{greek}, as you said. But I still
don't understand your answer. Why the \selectlanguage{greek} command 
is

not inserted by LyX?


probably this bug: http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1820


Georg





If it is a bug it is not that one. I tried without using footnotes and 
the problem is the same. Changing language insert a \inputenc command 
but not a \selectlanguage command. I assume (from what I know about 
LaTeX) that the latter is needed.
If this is true I'll file a bug report. But I may be completely 
misunderstanding how the language selection via menu works, as I have 
never used it.


S.



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Re: Footnotes in Greek

2007-01-29 Thread Stefano Franchi


On 27 Jan, 2007, at 5:54 PM, Uwe Stöhr wrote:


Declan O'Byrne schrieb:

I've been trying to get a way to insert some greek text into a 
document.

Having installed the relevant bits from texlive, I tried putting
\usepackage[greek,british]{babel} into the preamble.


You don't need to do this manually.

Simply take your british document and use the textstyle dialog to mark 
parts of the text as greek. LyX will then take care about the babel 
options, character encoding and will set the \selectlanguage 
correctly.

Attached is an example file.

In the upcoming LyX 1.5 it is possible that greek characters are also 
displayed as such.



That's a great solution I didn't know of. But the attached file doesn't 
work for me. LyX does pass greek and english to the documentclass 
declaration, but it does not insert appropriate babel declarations. Is 
this supposed to be done by the article class? The end result, on my 
configuration, is that all the resulting text is in English, not Greek. 
Looking at the exported LaTeX file, I noticed that when Greek text is 
supposed to begin LyX inserts only:


\inputencoding{iso-8859-7}

Isn't supposed to insert also a

\textanguage{greek}  ?


Cheers,

S.






regards Uwe
newfile1.lyx

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Re: Footnotes in Greek

2007-01-29 Thread Uwe Stöhr

Stefano Franchi schrieb:

That's a great solution I didn't know of. But the attached file doesn't 
work for me. LyX does pass greek and english to the documentclass 
declaration, but it does not insert appropriate babel declarations.


What do you need? You only need to load greek for babel when you want to have e.g. the section 
heading names appear in Greek. But as you document is in English and you only have text snippets in 
Greek, there's no need for that.


Looking at the exported LaTeX file, I noticed that when Greek text is 
supposed to begin LyX inserts only:


\inputencoding{iso-8859-7}

Isn't supposed to insert also a

\textanguage{greek}  ?


If yes, then it should be
\selectlanguage{greek}

regards Uwe


Re: Footnotes in Greek

2007-01-29 Thread Stefano Franchi


On 27 Jan, 2007, at 5:54 PM, Uwe Stöhr wrote:


Declan O'Byrne schrieb:

I've been trying to get a way to insert some greek text into a 
document.

Having installed the relevant bits from texlive, I tried putting
\usepackage[greek,british]{babel} into the preamble.


You don't need to do this manually.

Simply take your british document and use the textstyle dialog to mark 
parts of the text as greek. LyX will then take care about the babel 
options, character encoding and will set the \selectlanguage 
correctly.

Attached is an example file.

In the upcoming LyX 1.5 it is possible that greek characters are also 
displayed as such.



That's a great solution I didn't know of. But the attached file doesn't 
work for me. LyX does pass greek and english to the documentclass 
declaration, but it does not insert appropriate babel declarations. Is 
this supposed to be done by the article class? The end result, on my 
configuration, is that all the resulting text is in English, not Greek. 
Looking at the exported LaTeX file, I noticed that when Greek text is 
supposed to begin LyX inserts only:


\inputencoding{iso-8859-7}

Isn't supposed to insert also a

\textanguage{greek}  ?


Cheers,

S.






regards Uwe
newfile1.lyx

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Re: Footnotes in Greek

2007-01-29 Thread Uwe Stöhr

Stefano Franchi schrieb:

That's a great solution I didn't know of. But the attached file doesn't 
work for me. LyX does pass greek and english to the documentclass 
declaration, but it does not insert appropriate babel declarations.


What do you need? You only need to load greek for babel when you want to have e.g. the section 
heading names appear in Greek. But as you document is in English and you only have text snippets in 
Greek, there's no need for that.


Looking at the exported LaTeX file, I noticed that when Greek text is 
supposed to begin LyX inserts only:


\inputencoding{iso-8859-7}

Isn't supposed to insert also a

\textanguage{greek}  ?


If yes, then it should be
\selectlanguage{greek}

regards Uwe


Re: Footnotes in Greek

2007-01-29 Thread Stefano Franchi


On 27 Jan, 2007, at 5:54 PM, Uwe Stöhr wrote:


Declan O'Byrne schrieb:

I've been trying to get a way to insert some greek text into a 
document.

Having installed the relevant bits from texlive, I tried putting
\usepackage[greek,british]{babel} into the preamble.


You don't need to do this manually.

Simply take your british document and use the textstyle dialog to mark 
parts of the text as greek. LyX will then take care about the babel 
options, character encoding and will set the \selectlanguage 
correctly.

Attached is an example file.

In the upcoming LyX 1.5 it is possible that greek characters are also 
displayed as such.



That's a great solution I didn't know of. But the attached file doesn't 
work for me. LyX does pass greek and english to the documentclass 
declaration, but it does not insert appropriate babel declarations. Is 
this supposed to be done by the article class? The end result, on my 
configuration, is that all the resulting text is in English, not Greek. 
Looking at the exported LaTeX file, I noticed that when Greek text is 
supposed to begin LyX inserts only:


\inputencoding{iso-8859-7}

Isn't supposed to insert also a

\textanguage{greek}  ?


Cheers,

S.






regards Uwe


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Re: Footnotes in Greek

2007-01-29 Thread Uwe Stöhr

Stefano Franchi schrieb:

That's a great solution I didn't know of. But the attached file doesn't 
work for me. LyX does pass greek and english to the documentclass 
declaration, but it does not insert appropriate babel declarations.


What do you need? You only need to load greek for babel when you want to have e.g. the section 
heading names appear in Greek. But as you document is in English and you only have text snippets in 
Greek, there's no need for that.


Looking at the exported LaTeX file, I noticed that when Greek text is 
supposed to begin LyX inserts only:


\inputencoding{iso-8859-7}

Isn't supposed to insert also a

\textanguage{greek}  ?


If yes, then it should be
\selectlanguage{greek}

regards Uwe


Re: Footnotes in Greek

2007-01-27 Thread Uwe Stöhr

Declan O'Byrne schrieb:


I've been trying to get a way to insert some greek text into a document.
Having installed the relevant bits from texlive, I tried putting
\usepackage[greek,british]{babel} into the preamble.


You don't need to do this manually.

Simply take your british document and use the textstyle dialog to mark parts of the text as greek. 
LyX will then take care about the babel options, character encoding and will set the \selectlanguage 
correctly.

Attached is an example file.

In the upcoming LyX 1.5 it is possible that greek characters are also displayed 
as such.

regards Uwe


newfile1.lyx
Description: application/lyx


Re: Footnotes in Greek

2007-01-27 Thread Uwe Stöhr

Declan O'Byrne schrieb:


I've been trying to get a way to insert some greek text into a document.
Having installed the relevant bits from texlive, I tried putting
\usepackage[greek,british]{babel} into the preamble.


You don't need to do this manually.

Simply take your british document and use the textstyle dialog to mark parts of the text as greek. 
LyX will then take care about the babel options, character encoding and will set the \selectlanguage 
correctly.

Attached is an example file.

In the upcoming LyX 1.5 it is possible that greek characters are also displayed 
as such.

regards Uwe


newfile1.lyx
Description: application/lyx


Re: Footnotes in Greek

2007-01-27 Thread Uwe Stöhr

Declan O'Byrne schrieb:


I've been trying to get a way to insert some greek text into a document.
Having installed the relevant bits from texlive, I tried putting
\usepackage[greek,british]{babel} into the preamble.


You don't need to do this manually.

Simply take your british document and use the textstyle dialog to mark parts of the text as greek. 
LyX will then take care about the babel options, character encoding and will set the \selectlanguage 
correctly.

Attached is an example file.

In the upcoming LyX 1.5 it is possible that greek characters are also displayed 
as such.

regards Uwe


newfile1.lyx
Description: application/lyx


Footnotes in Greek

2007-01-25 Thread Declan O'Byrne

Hi all,

I've been trying to get a way to insert some greek text into a document.
Having installed the relevant bits from texlive, I tried putting
\usepackage[greek,british]{babel} into the preamble. This changes the whole
document into greek. If I place the ERT \selectlanguage{british} before the
document title, it goes back to british for the main text, but all of the
references brought in from bibtex (using jurabib) are set in greek. This is
not what I need. How do I tell bibtex to use british as the default
language?
Or is there a better way to set up the document to allow for occasional
greek?

Declan


Footnotes in Greek

2007-01-25 Thread Declan O'Byrne

Hi all,

I've been trying to get a way to insert some greek text into a document.
Having installed the relevant bits from texlive, I tried putting
\usepackage[greek,british]{babel} into the preamble. This changes the whole
document into greek. If I place the ERT \selectlanguage{british} before the
document title, it goes back to british for the main text, but all of the
references brought in from bibtex (using jurabib) are set in greek. This is
not what I need. How do I tell bibtex to use british as the default
language?
Or is there a better way to set up the document to allow for occasional
greek?

Declan


Footnotes in Greek

2007-01-25 Thread Declan O'Byrne

Hi all,

I've been trying to get a way to insert some greek text into a document.
Having installed the relevant bits from texlive, I tried putting
\usepackage[greek,british]{babel} into the preamble. This changes the whole
document into greek. If I place the ERT \selectlanguage{british} before the
document title, it goes back to british for the main text, but all of the
references brought in from bibtex (using jurabib) are set in greek. This is
not what I need. How do I tell bibtex to use british as the default
language?
Or is there a better way to set up the document to allow for occasional
greek?

Declan