Re: Importing a text file with German accented characters
Jon Riding wrote: First of all I should like to add my thanks to the LyX developers for such a useful program. I'm still on 1.3 but I'm guessing the problem below applies to 1.4.0 as well: I have a related problem with UTF-8 characters which judging from this discussion may not be achievable in LyX. I need to include text in my documents taken from data in Bantu and Nilotic group languages. Some of these include accented vowels and other characters that are not present in the European character sets (yes, the world really is bigger that N America and Europe). It sure is. And it is the responsibility of people who want support for their favourite writing system to help add it. :-) My data is all in UTF-8 and I'm guessing that LyX simply won't handle this unless I convert it all to ASCII and bodge the missing characters into a font below 255. I would then need to find a way of getting LyX to use this font at the appropriate points in the document. Have I understood this correctly? Is there (please!) some easier way? If LyX really can't handle Unicode data does anyone know if their are plans to fix this? Yes, there is a plan. Unicode support is planned for lyx 1.5. Development of lyx 1.5 started at the same time lyx 1.4.0 was released. Until this is done, you have to use one of the encodings lyx support. Note that there are quite a few accented vowels in the various latin encodings. Take a look at the user guide, section 6.8.3 Character Tables. There you see everything lyx 1.3 and 1.4 can display today. Switching to a special font can be done with ERT commands. That will be cumbersome. If you have lots of this, consider making a small program that converts from UTF-8 to whatever commands you need. Helge Hafting
Re: Importing a text file with German accented characters
Jon Riding wrote: First of all I should like to add my thanks to the LyX developers for such a useful program. I'm still on 1.3 but I'm guessing the problem below applies to 1.4.0 as well: I have a related problem with UTF-8 characters which judging from this discussion may not be achievable in LyX. I need to include text in my documents taken from data in Bantu and Nilotic group languages. Some of these include accented vowels and other characters that are not present in the European character sets (yes, the world really is bigger that N America and Europe). It sure is. And it is the responsibility of people who want support for their favourite writing system to help add it. :-) My data is all in UTF-8 and I'm guessing that LyX simply won't handle this unless I convert it all to ASCII and bodge the missing characters into a font below 255. I would then need to find a way of getting LyX to use this font at the appropriate points in the document. Have I understood this correctly? Is there (please!) some easier way? If LyX really can't handle Unicode data does anyone know if their are plans to fix this? Yes, there is a plan. Unicode support is planned for lyx 1.5. Development of lyx 1.5 started at the same time lyx 1.4.0 was released. Until this is done, you have to use one of the encodings lyx support. Note that there are quite a few accented vowels in the various latin encodings. Take a look at the user guide, section 6.8.3 Character Tables. There you see everything lyx 1.3 and 1.4 can display today. Switching to a special font can be done with ERT commands. That will be cumbersome. If you have lots of this, consider making a small program that converts from UTF-8 to whatever commands you need. Helge Hafting
Re: Importing a text file with German accented characters
Jon Riding wrote: First of all I should like to add my thanks to the LyX developers for such a useful program. I'm still on 1.3 but I'm guessing the problem below applies to 1.4.0 as well: I have a related problem with UTF-8 characters which judging from this discussion may not be achievable in LyX. I need to include text in my documents taken from data in Bantu and Nilotic group languages. Some of these include accented vowels and other characters that are not present in the European character sets (yes, the world really is bigger that N America and Europe). It sure is. And it is the responsibility of people who want support for their favourite writing system to help add it. :-) My data is all in UTF-8 and I'm guessing that LyX simply won't handle this unless I convert it all to ASCII and bodge the missing characters into a font below 255. I would then need to find a way of getting LyX to use this font at the appropriate points in the document. Have I understood this correctly? Is there (please!) some easier way? If LyX really can't handle Unicode data does anyone know if their are plans to fix this? Yes, there is a plan. Unicode support is planned for lyx 1.5. Development of lyx 1.5 started at the same time lyx 1.4.0 was released. Until this is done, you have to use one of the encodings lyx support. Note that there are quite a few accented vowels in the various latin encodings. Take a look at the user guide, section 6.8.3 "Character Tables". There you see everything lyx 1.3 and 1.4 can display today. Switching to a special font can be done with ERT commands. That will be cumbersome. If you have lots of this, consider making a small program that converts from UTF-8 to whatever commands you need. Helge Hafting
Re: Importing a text file with German accented characters
On 3/11/06, Nicholas Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hope someone can help me. I am trying to import a text file that contains German accented characters. The file is saved in UTF-8 format. How do I do this? If I use the import ASCII the accented characters appear as two junk characters. However, I can type the characters on the keyboard and they are displayed no problem. I just don't feel like typing in a 100 page German document by hand! There must be a way to get this text file into Lyx isn't there? Just an idea, Nicholas: use copy and paste, previously selecting the whole text document. Paul
Re: Importing a text file with German accented characters
Nicholas Allen wrote: I hope someone can help me. I am trying to import a text file that contains German accented characters. The file is saved in UTF-8 format. How do I do this? If I use the import ASCII the accented characters appear as two junk characters. However, I can type the characters on the keyboard and they are displayed no problem. I just don't feel like typing in a 100 page German document by hand! There must be a way to get this text file into Lyx isn't there? You probably have to convert the text file from UTF-8 to latin1 first. Jürgen
Re: Importing a text file with German accented characters
Nicholas Allen wrote: I hope someone can help me. I am trying to import a text file that contains German accented characters. The file is saved in UTF-8 format. How do I do this? If I use the import ASCII the accented characters appear as two junk characters. Can you do a find and replace for the junk characters? Or find and replace the accented characters in the source document with your own junk string, then find and replace with accented e in the document once it's been imported to LyX? Or open the document in another word processor and change the encoding? Those are awkward work-arounds but until LyX is supporting UTF-8 those are the only options I know. regards, Beth -- Friends don't let friends write junk. http://slobbit.livejournal.com
Re: Importing a text file with German accented characters
Juergen Spitzmueller [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Nicholas Allen wrote: I hope someone can help me. I am trying to import a text file that contains German accented characters. The file is saved in UTF-8 format. How do I do this? If I use the import ASCII the accented characters appear as two junk characters. However, I can type the characters on the keyboard and they are displayed no problem. I just don't feel like typing in a 100 page German document by hand! There must be a way to get this text file into Lyx isn't there? You probably have to convert the text file from UTF-8 to latin1 first. On Windows, this can be done by using type: type file.utf8 file.txt will give you the latin1 version of file.utf8 in file.txt. -- Enrico
Re: Importing a text file with German accented characters
I did try this as well but got the same problem. I just upgraded to 1.4 and the copy/paste seems to work better (the quotes come in as \u2013) but the accented characters are now imported ok. Paul Smith wrote: On 3/11/06, Nicholas Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hope someone can help me. I am trying to import a text file that contains German accented characters. The file is saved in UTF-8 format. How do I do this? If I use the import ASCII the accented characters appear as two junk characters. However, I can type the characters on the keyboard and they are displayed no problem. I just don't feel like typing in a 100 page German document by hand! There must be a way to get this text file into Lyx isn't there? Just an idea, Nicholas: use copy and paste, previously selecting the whole text document. Paul
Re: Importing a text file with German accented characters
BEJ wrote: Nicholas Allen wrote: I hope someone can help me. I am trying to import a text file that contains German accented characters. The file is saved in UTF-8 format. How do I do this? If I use the import ASCII the accented characters appear as two junk characters. Under Linux, you can use recode from the command line. It is a utility to convert from one charset to another. You can even convert to LaTeX your utf8 file. Cheers, Charles -- http://www.kde-france.org
Re: Importing a text file with German accented characters
First of all I should like to add my thanks to the LyX developers for such a useful program. I'm still on 1.3 but I'm guessing the problem below applies to 1.4.0 as well: I have a related problem with UTF-8 characters which judging from this discussion may not be achievable in LyX. I need to include text in my documents taken from data in Bantu and Nilotic group languages. Some of these include accented vowels and other characters that are not present in the European character sets (yes, the world really is bigger that N America and Europe). My data is all in UTF-8 and I'm guessing that LyX simply won't handle this unless I convert it all to ASCII and bodge the missing characters into a font below 255. I would then need to find a way of getting LyX to use this font at the appropriate points in the document. Have I understood this correctly? Is there (please!) some easier way? If LyX really can't handle Unicode data does anyone know if their are plans to fix this? Jon Riding British Foreign Bible Society Machine Assisted Translation Team Charles de Miramon wrote: BEJ wrote: Nicholas Allen wrote: I hope someone can help me. I am trying to import a text file that contains German accented characters. The file is saved in UTF-8 format. How do I do this? If I use the import ASCII the accented characters appear as two junk characters. Under Linux, you can use recode from the command line. It is a utility to convert from one charset to another. You can even convert to LaTeX your utf8 file. Cheers, Charles
Re: Importing a text file with German accented characters
Jon Riding wrote: I have a related problem with UTF-8 characters which judging from this discussion may not be achievable in LyX. I need to include text in my documents taken from data in Bantu and Nilotic group languages. Some of these include accented vowels and other characters that are not present in the European character sets (yes, the world really is bigger that N America and Europe). Could you show some examples of these special vowels and characters. Cheers, Charles -- http://www.kde-france.org
Re: Importing a text file with German accented characters
On 3/11/06, Nicholas Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hope someone can help me. I am trying to import a text file that contains German accented characters. The file is saved in UTF-8 format. How do I do this? If I use the import ASCII the accented characters appear as two junk characters. However, I can type the characters on the keyboard and they are displayed no problem. I just don't feel like typing in a 100 page German document by hand! There must be a way to get this text file into Lyx isn't there? Just an idea, Nicholas: use copy and paste, previously selecting the whole text document. Paul
Re: Importing a text file with German accented characters
Nicholas Allen wrote: I hope someone can help me. I am trying to import a text file that contains German accented characters. The file is saved in UTF-8 format. How do I do this? If I use the import ASCII the accented characters appear as two junk characters. However, I can type the characters on the keyboard and they are displayed no problem. I just don't feel like typing in a 100 page German document by hand! There must be a way to get this text file into Lyx isn't there? You probably have to convert the text file from UTF-8 to latin1 first. Jürgen
Re: Importing a text file with German accented characters
Nicholas Allen wrote: I hope someone can help me. I am trying to import a text file that contains German accented characters. The file is saved in UTF-8 format. How do I do this? If I use the import ASCII the accented characters appear as two junk characters. Can you do a find and replace for the junk characters? Or find and replace the accented characters in the source document with your own junk string, then find and replace with accented e in the document once it's been imported to LyX? Or open the document in another word processor and change the encoding? Those are awkward work-arounds but until LyX is supporting UTF-8 those are the only options I know. regards, Beth -- Friends don't let friends write junk. http://slobbit.livejournal.com
Re: Importing a text file with German accented characters
Juergen Spitzmueller [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Nicholas Allen wrote: I hope someone can help me. I am trying to import a text file that contains German accented characters. The file is saved in UTF-8 format. How do I do this? If I use the import ASCII the accented characters appear as two junk characters. However, I can type the characters on the keyboard and they are displayed no problem. I just don't feel like typing in a 100 page German document by hand! There must be a way to get this text file into Lyx isn't there? You probably have to convert the text file from UTF-8 to latin1 first. On Windows, this can be done by using type: type file.utf8 file.txt will give you the latin1 version of file.utf8 in file.txt. -- Enrico
Re: Importing a text file with German accented characters
I did try this as well but got the same problem. I just upgraded to 1.4 and the copy/paste seems to work better (the quotes come in as \u2013) but the accented characters are now imported ok. Paul Smith wrote: On 3/11/06, Nicholas Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hope someone can help me. I am trying to import a text file that contains German accented characters. The file is saved in UTF-8 format. How do I do this? If I use the import ASCII the accented characters appear as two junk characters. However, I can type the characters on the keyboard and they are displayed no problem. I just don't feel like typing in a 100 page German document by hand! There must be a way to get this text file into Lyx isn't there? Just an idea, Nicholas: use copy and paste, previously selecting the whole text document. Paul
Re: Importing a text file with German accented characters
BEJ wrote: Nicholas Allen wrote: I hope someone can help me. I am trying to import a text file that contains German accented characters. The file is saved in UTF-8 format. How do I do this? If I use the import ASCII the accented characters appear as two junk characters. Under Linux, you can use recode from the command line. It is a utility to convert from one charset to another. You can even convert to LaTeX your utf8 file. Cheers, Charles -- http://www.kde-france.org
Re: Importing a text file with German accented characters
First of all I should like to add my thanks to the LyX developers for such a useful program. I'm still on 1.3 but I'm guessing the problem below applies to 1.4.0 as well: I have a related problem with UTF-8 characters which judging from this discussion may not be achievable in LyX. I need to include text in my documents taken from data in Bantu and Nilotic group languages. Some of these include accented vowels and other characters that are not present in the European character sets (yes, the world really is bigger that N America and Europe). My data is all in UTF-8 and I'm guessing that LyX simply won't handle this unless I convert it all to ASCII and bodge the missing characters into a font below 255. I would then need to find a way of getting LyX to use this font at the appropriate points in the document. Have I understood this correctly? Is there (please!) some easier way? If LyX really can't handle Unicode data does anyone know if their are plans to fix this? Jon Riding British Foreign Bible Society Machine Assisted Translation Team Charles de Miramon wrote: BEJ wrote: Nicholas Allen wrote: I hope someone can help me. I am trying to import a text file that contains German accented characters. The file is saved in UTF-8 format. How do I do this? If I use the import ASCII the accented characters appear as two junk characters. Under Linux, you can use recode from the command line. It is a utility to convert from one charset to another. You can even convert to LaTeX your utf8 file. Cheers, Charles
Re: Importing a text file with German accented characters
Jon Riding wrote: I have a related problem with UTF-8 characters which judging from this discussion may not be achievable in LyX. I need to include text in my documents taken from data in Bantu and Nilotic group languages. Some of these include accented vowels and other characters that are not present in the European character sets (yes, the world really is bigger that N America and Europe). Could you show some examples of these special vowels and characters. Cheers, Charles -- http://www.kde-france.org
Re: Importing a text file with German accented characters
On 3/11/06, Nicholas Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I hope someone can help me. I am trying to import a text file that > contains German accented characters. The file is saved in UTF-8 format. > How do I do this? If I use the import ASCII the accented characters > appear as two junk characters. However, I can type the characters on the > keyboard and they are displayed no problem. I just don't feel like > typing in a 100 page German document by hand! There must be a way to get > this text file into Lyx isn't there? Just an idea, Nicholas: use copy and paste, previously selecting the whole text document. Paul
Re: Importing a text file with German accented characters
Nicholas Allen wrote: > I hope someone can help me. I am trying to import a text file that > contains German accented characters. The file is saved in UTF-8 format. > How do I do this? If I use the import ASCII the accented characters > appear as two junk characters. However, I can type the characters on the > keyboard and they are displayed no problem. I just don't feel like > typing in a 100 page German document by hand! There must be a way to get > this text file into Lyx isn't there? You probably have to convert the text file from UTF-8 to latin1 first. Jürgen
Re: Importing a text file with German accented characters
Nicholas Allen wrote: I hope someone can help me. I am trying to import a text file that contains German accented characters. The file is saved in UTF-8 format. How do I do this? If I use the import ASCII the accented characters appear as two junk characters. Can you do a find and replace for the junk characters? Or find and replace the accented characters in the source document with your own junk string, then find and replace with accented e in the document once it's been imported to LyX? Or open the document in another word processor and change the encoding? Those are awkward work-arounds but until LyX is supporting UTF-8 those are the only options I know. regards, Beth -- "Friends don't let friends write junk." http://slobbit.livejournal.com
Re: Importing a text file with German accented characters
Juergen Spitzmueller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Nicholas Allen wrote: > > I hope someone can help me. I am trying to import a text file that > > contains German accented characters. The file is saved in UTF-8 format. > > How do I do this? If I use the import ASCII the accented characters > > appear as two junk characters. However, I can type the characters on the > > keyboard and they are displayed no problem. I just don't feel like > > typing in a 100 page German document by hand! There must be a way to get > > this text file into Lyx isn't there? > > You probably have to convert the text file from UTF-8 to latin1 first. On Windows, this can be done by using type: type file.utf8 > file.txt will give you the latin1 version of file.utf8 in file.txt. -- Enrico
Re: Importing a text file with German accented characters
I did try this as well but got the same problem. I just upgraded to 1.4 and the copy/paste seems to work better (the quotes come in as "\u2013") but the accented characters are now imported ok. Paul Smith wrote: On 3/11/06, Nicholas Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I hope someone can help me. I am trying to import a text file that contains German accented characters. The file is saved in UTF-8 format. How do I do this? If I use the import ASCII the accented characters appear as two junk characters. However, I can type the characters on the keyboard and they are displayed no problem. I just don't feel like typing in a 100 page German document by hand! There must be a way to get this text file into Lyx isn't there? Just an idea, Nicholas: use copy and paste, previously selecting the whole text document. Paul
Re: Importing a text file with German accented characters
BEJ wrote: > Nicholas Allen wrote: > >> I hope someone can help me. I am trying to import a text file that >> contains German accented characters. The file is saved in UTF-8 format. >> How do I do this? If I use the import ASCII the accented characters >> appear as two junk characters. > Under Linux, you can use recode from the command line. It is a utility to convert from one charset to another. You can even convert to LaTeX your utf8 file. Cheers, Charles -- http://www.kde-france.org
Re: Importing a text file with German accented characters
First of all I should like to add my thanks to the LyX developers for such a useful program. I'm still on 1.3 but I'm guessing the problem below applies to 1.4.0 as well: I have a related problem with UTF-8 characters which judging from this discussion may not be achievable in LyX. I need to include text in my documents taken from data in Bantu and Nilotic group languages. Some of these include accented vowels and other characters that are not present in the European character sets (yes, the world really is bigger that N America and Europe). My data is all in UTF-8 and I'm guessing that LyX simply won't handle this unless I convert it all to ASCII and bodge the missing characters into a font below 255. I would then need to find a way of getting LyX to use this font at the appropriate points in the document. Have I understood this correctly? Is there (please!) some easier way? If LyX really can't handle Unicode data does anyone know if their are plans to fix this? Jon Riding British & Foreign Bible Society Machine Assisted Translation Team Charles de Miramon wrote: BEJ wrote: Nicholas Allen wrote: I hope someone can help me. I am trying to import a text file that contains German accented characters. The file is saved in UTF-8 format. How do I do this? If I use the import ASCII the accented characters appear as two junk characters. Under Linux, you can use recode from the command line. It is a utility to convert from one charset to another. You can even convert to LaTeX your utf8 file. Cheers, Charles
Re: Importing a text file with German accented characters
Jon Riding wrote: > I have a related problem with UTF-8 characters which judging from this > discussion may not be achievable in LyX. I need to include text in my > documents taken from data in Bantu and Nilotic group languages. Some of > these include accented vowels and other characters that are not present in > the European character sets (yes, the world really is bigger that N > America and Europe). > Could you show some examples of these special vowels and characters. Cheers, Charles -- http://www.kde-france.org
Importing a text file with German accented characters
Hi, I hope someone can help me. I am trying to import a text file that contains German accented characters. The file is saved in UTF-8 format. How do I do this? If I use the import ASCII the accented characters appear as two junk characters. However, I can type the characters on the keyboard and they are displayed no problem. I just don't feel like typing in a 100 page German document by hand! There must be a way to get this text file into Lyx isn't there? Thanks in advance for any help, Nicholas Allen
Importing a text file with German accented characters
Hi, I hope someone can help me. I am trying to import a text file that contains German accented characters. The file is saved in UTF-8 format. How do I do this? If I use the import ASCII the accented characters appear as two junk characters. However, I can type the characters on the keyboard and they are displayed no problem. I just don't feel like typing in a 100 page German document by hand! There must be a way to get this text file into Lyx isn't there? Thanks in advance for any help, Nicholas Allen
Importing a text file with German accented characters
Hi, I hope someone can help me. I am trying to import a text file that contains German accented characters. The file is saved in UTF-8 format. How do I do this? If I use the import ASCII the accented characters appear as two junk characters. However, I can type the characters on the keyboard and they are displayed no problem. I just don't feel like typing in a 100 page German document by hand! There must be a way to get this text file into Lyx isn't there? Thanks in advance for any help, Nicholas Allen
