Re: LyX - cross platform core toolkit for scientific and technical writing?
On Sunday 24 May 2009 17:44:16 Graham Smith wrote: Thanks, As you say an interesting combination, but if I wasn't using R, I would be using very expensive commercial alternatives, which I still have licenses for , but no longer upgrade. I use mostly gnuplot (for 3d), matplotlib and R. Sometimes I call both gnuplot and R from python (rpy for the r - python part). Graham -- José Abílio
Re: LyX - cross platform core toolkit for scientific and technical writing?
José Matos wrote: I use mostly gnuplot (for 3d), matplotlib and R. Sometimes I call both gnuplot and R from python (rpy for the r - python part). It does look like Python offers a rather useful thing to learn. Graham
Re: LyX - cross platform core toolkit for scientific and technical writing?
On Sunday 24 May 2009 17:44:16 Graham Smith wrote: Thanks, As you say an interesting combination, but if I wasn't using R, I would be using very expensive commercial alternatives, which I still have licenses for , but no longer upgrade. I use mostly gnuplot (for 3d), matplotlib and R. Sometimes I call both gnuplot and R from python (rpy for the r - python part). Graham -- José Abílio
Re: LyX - cross platform core toolkit for scientific and technical writing?
José Matos wrote: I use mostly gnuplot (for 3d), matplotlib and R. Sometimes I call both gnuplot and R from python (rpy for the r - python part). It does look like Python offers a rather useful thing to learn. Graham
Re: LyX - cross platform core toolkit for scientific and technical writing?
On Sunday 24 May 2009 17:44:16 Graham Smith wrote: > Thanks, > > As you say an interesting combination, but if I wasn't using R, I would > be using very expensive commercial alternatives, which I still have > licenses for , but no longer upgrade. I use mostly gnuplot (for 3d), matplotlib and R. Sometimes I call both gnuplot and R from python (rpy for the r <-> python part). > Graham -- José Abílio
Re: LyX - cross platform core toolkit for scientific and technical writing?
José Matos wrote: I use mostly gnuplot (for 3d), matplotlib and R. Sometimes I call both gnuplot and R from python (rpy for the r <-> python part). It does look like Python offers a rather useful thing to learn. Graham
Lyx - cross platform core toolkit for scientific and technical writing?
The recent thread on graphics formats has got me thinking about what would might be considered a core (cross platform) toolkit for Lyx users. I tend to work with Emacs for general note taking etc, and Open Office when I feel the need for an Office application, and Freemind for brainstorming. I also use combination of Zotero and Jabref to manage reference material. Although not really part of a Lyx toolkit most my graphics are generated in R. However, sometimes this can be rather tedious. I have recently come across matplotlib for python, and am having some success with it, but not sure whether I shouldn't focus my efforts on expanding my R skills. Equally PSTricks given its Latex, may be worth learning as any increased understanding of Latex has benefits for using Lyx. Or is fig a better general purpose option. For photo editing GIMP, or is there a lighter weight option more suited to the tweaks that we need to do to prepare a photo for publication. We seemed spoilt for choice, which is good, but equally rather confusing as many programs have similar but different features and many features that overlap. And of course I may well have missed the obvious So would anyone like to suggest a basic Lyx toolkit, that would cover the range of things we tend to do when producing scientific papers and technical reports. The list of Lyx support programs that you automatically install when you get a new computer. Many thanks, Graham
Re: LyX - cross platform core toolkit for scientific and technical writing?
Graham Smith schrieb: So would anyone like to suggest a basic LyX toolkit, that would cover the range of things we tend to do when producing scientific papers and technical reports. That strongly depends on your research field. As physicist I use for example Origin http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_(software) that is only available commercially only for Windows while my colleagues on Linux use a free Origin clone like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QtiPlot http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LabPlot http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SciDAVis But the program you are using doesn't matter since you can create PDF images with all these programs and use them in LyX. For illustrations we use Inkscape http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inkscape or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adobe_Illustrator both programs output either PDF or SVG that can be opened and modified with many other programs. For exact illustrations containing dimensions you can use a CAD program of your choice. You can create PDF images from all CAD programs. As you can see you are free to use any program you like, only assure that you get your images as a vector graphic, if possible as PDF. (Other vector graphics output formats like EPS and SVG can easily be converted PDF with free software.) regards Uwe
Re: LyX - cross platform core toolkit for scientific and technical writing?
Thanks Uwe, I conclude that you don't think there is no obvious core toolkit of companion programs for Lyx. But its interesting you use Origin rather than some of the open source options. Graham Uwe Stöhr wrote: Graham Smith schrieb: So would anyone like to suggest a basic LyX toolkit, that would cover the range of things we tend to do when producing scientific papers and technical reports. That strongly depends on your research field. As physicist I use for example Origin http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_(software) that is only available commercially only for Windows while my colleagues on Linux use a free Origin clone like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QtiPlot http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LabPlot http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SciDAVis But the program you are using doesn't matter since you can create PDF images with all these programs and use them in LyX. For illustrations we use Inkscape http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inkscape or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adobe_Illustrator both programs output either PDF or SVG that can be opened and modified with many other programs. For exact illustrations containing dimensions you can use a CAD program of your choice. You can create PDF images from all CAD programs. As you can see you are free to use any program you like, only assure that you get your images as a vector graphic, if possible as PDF. (Other vector graphics output formats like EPS and SVG can easily be converted PDF with free software.) regards Uwe -- Graham M Smith graham.sm...@myotis.co.uk Station Cottage, Station Road Binegar, Somerset BA3 4UQ
Re: LyX - cross platform core toolkit for scientific and technical writing?
Graham Smith schrieb: I conclude that you don't think there is no obvious core toolkit of companion programs for Lyx. Yes, and I like that you can decide by your own what suits you the best. But its interesting you use Origin rather than some of the open source options. Because it is simply better and provides much more features. regards Uwe
Re: LyX - cross platform core toolkit for scientific and technical writing?
Uwe Uwe Stöhr wrote: Graham Smith schrieb: I conclude that you don't think there is no obvious core toolkit of companion programs for Lyx. Yes, and I like that you can decide by your own what suits you the best. M, I think now that you misunderstood my question, its because you can choose what suits you best and there is so much choice that I was interested in what different people considered to represent a core set of companion programs for Lyx. But it was only an idle thought as I was reviewing the programs I use. Graham
Re: LyX - cross platform core toolkit for scientific and technical writing?
For me it's Mathematica (decidedly *not* free or open-source!) and XFig. Two of the strangest programs paired up, but they work for about 99% of the graphics I need to produce for LyX. Incidentally, Origin (at least versions 6 and previously; I haven't tried yet with the newest) runs just fine under Wine on linux. Cheers, C.O. / Down with categorical imperative! flutz...@yahoo.com / From: Graham Smith graham.sm...@myotis.co.uk To: LyX Users List lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2009 7:29:21 AM Subject: Re: LyX - cross platform core toolkit for scientific and technical writing? Uwe Uwe Stöhr wrote: Graham Smith schrieb: I conclude that you don't think there is no obvious core toolkit of companion programs for Lyx. Yes, and I like that you can decide by your own what suits you the best. M, I think now that you misunderstood my question, its because you can choose what suits you best and there is so much choice that I was interested in what different people considered to represent a core set of companion programs for Lyx. But it was only an idle thought as I was reviewing the programs I use. Graham
Re: LyX - cross platform core toolkit for scientific and technical writing?
Thanks, As you say an interesting combination, but if I wasn't using R, I would be using very expensive commercial alternatives, which I still have licenses for , but no longer upgrade. Graham curtis osterhoudt wrote: For me it's Mathematica (decidedly *not* free or open-source!) and XFig. Two of the strangest programs paired up, but they work for about 99% of the graphics I need to produce for LyX. Incidentally, Origin (at least versions 6 and previously; I haven't tried yet with the newest) runs just fine under Wine on linux. Cheers, C.O. / Down with categorical imperative! flutz...@yahoo.com / From: Graham Smith graham.sm...@myotis.co.uk To: LyX Users List lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2009 7:29:21 AM Subject: Re: LyX - cross platform core toolkit for scientific and technical writing? Uwe Uwe Stöhr wrote: Graham Smith schrieb: I conclude that you don't think there is no obvious core toolkit of companion programs for Lyx. Yes, and I like that you can decide by your own what suits you the best. M, I think now that you misunderstood my question, its because you can choose what suits you best and there is so much choice that I was interested in what different people considered to represent a core set of companion programs for Lyx. But it was only an idle thought as I was reviewing the programs I use. Graham
Re: LyX - cross platform core toolkit for scientific and technical writing?
--- On Sun, 5/24/09, Graham Smith graham.sm...@myotis.co.uk wrote: As you say an interesting combination, but if I wasn't using R, I would be using very expensive commercial alternatives, which I still have licenses for , but no longer upgrade. I use gnuplot either with latex or fig terminal for graphic plot (plotting data, etc). Wayan
Lyx - cross platform core toolkit for scientific and technical writing?
The recent thread on graphics formats has got me thinking about what would might be considered a core (cross platform) toolkit for Lyx users. I tend to work with Emacs for general note taking etc, and Open Office when I feel the need for an Office application, and Freemind for brainstorming. I also use combination of Zotero and Jabref to manage reference material. Although not really part of a Lyx toolkit most my graphics are generated in R. However, sometimes this can be rather tedious. I have recently come across matplotlib for python, and am having some success with it, but not sure whether I shouldn't focus my efforts on expanding my R skills. Equally PSTricks given its Latex, may be worth learning as any increased understanding of Latex has benefits for using Lyx. Or is fig a better general purpose option. For photo editing GIMP, or is there a lighter weight option more suited to the tweaks that we need to do to prepare a photo for publication. We seemed spoilt for choice, which is good, but equally rather confusing as many programs have similar but different features and many features that overlap. And of course I may well have missed the obvious So would anyone like to suggest a basic Lyx toolkit, that would cover the range of things we tend to do when producing scientific papers and technical reports. The list of Lyx support programs that you automatically install when you get a new computer. Many thanks, Graham
Re: LyX - cross platform core toolkit for scientific and technical writing?
Graham Smith schrieb: So would anyone like to suggest a basic LyX toolkit, that would cover the range of things we tend to do when producing scientific papers and technical reports. That strongly depends on your research field. As physicist I use for example Origin http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_(software) that is only available commercially only for Windows while my colleagues on Linux use a free Origin clone like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QtiPlot http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LabPlot http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SciDAVis But the program you are using doesn't matter since you can create PDF images with all these programs and use them in LyX. For illustrations we use Inkscape http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inkscape or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adobe_Illustrator both programs output either PDF or SVG that can be opened and modified with many other programs. For exact illustrations containing dimensions you can use a CAD program of your choice. You can create PDF images from all CAD programs. As you can see you are free to use any program you like, only assure that you get your images as a vector graphic, if possible as PDF. (Other vector graphics output formats like EPS and SVG can easily be converted PDF with free software.) regards Uwe
Re: LyX - cross platform core toolkit for scientific and technical writing?
Thanks Uwe, I conclude that you don't think there is no obvious core toolkit of companion programs for Lyx. But its interesting you use Origin rather than some of the open source options. Graham Uwe Stöhr wrote: Graham Smith schrieb: So would anyone like to suggest a basic LyX toolkit, that would cover the range of things we tend to do when producing scientific papers and technical reports. That strongly depends on your research field. As physicist I use for example Origin http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_(software) that is only available commercially only for Windows while my colleagues on Linux use a free Origin clone like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QtiPlot http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LabPlot http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SciDAVis But the program you are using doesn't matter since you can create PDF images with all these programs and use them in LyX. For illustrations we use Inkscape http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inkscape or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adobe_Illustrator both programs output either PDF or SVG that can be opened and modified with many other programs. For exact illustrations containing dimensions you can use a CAD program of your choice. You can create PDF images from all CAD programs. As you can see you are free to use any program you like, only assure that you get your images as a vector graphic, if possible as PDF. (Other vector graphics output formats like EPS and SVG can easily be converted PDF with free software.) regards Uwe -- Graham M Smith graham.sm...@myotis.co.uk Station Cottage, Station Road Binegar, Somerset BA3 4UQ
Re: LyX - cross platform core toolkit for scientific and technical writing?
Graham Smith schrieb: I conclude that you don't think there is no obvious core toolkit of companion programs for Lyx. Yes, and I like that you can decide by your own what suits you the best. But its interesting you use Origin rather than some of the open source options. Because it is simply better and provides much more features. regards Uwe
Re: LyX - cross platform core toolkit for scientific and technical writing?
Uwe Uwe Stöhr wrote: Graham Smith schrieb: I conclude that you don't think there is no obvious core toolkit of companion programs for Lyx. Yes, and I like that you can decide by your own what suits you the best. M, I think now that you misunderstood my question, its because you can choose what suits you best and there is so much choice that I was interested in what different people considered to represent a core set of companion programs for Lyx. But it was only an idle thought as I was reviewing the programs I use. Graham
Re: LyX - cross platform core toolkit for scientific and technical writing?
For me it's Mathematica (decidedly *not* free or open-source!) and XFig. Two of the strangest programs paired up, but they work for about 99% of the graphics I need to produce for LyX. Incidentally, Origin (at least versions 6 and previously; I haven't tried yet with the newest) runs just fine under Wine on linux. Cheers, C.O. / Down with categorical imperative! flutz...@yahoo.com / From: Graham Smith graham.sm...@myotis.co.uk To: LyX Users List lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2009 7:29:21 AM Subject: Re: LyX - cross platform core toolkit for scientific and technical writing? Uwe Uwe Stöhr wrote: Graham Smith schrieb: I conclude that you don't think there is no obvious core toolkit of companion programs for Lyx. Yes, and I like that you can decide by your own what suits you the best. M, I think now that you misunderstood my question, its because you can choose what suits you best and there is so much choice that I was interested in what different people considered to represent a core set of companion programs for Lyx. But it was only an idle thought as I was reviewing the programs I use. Graham
Re: LyX - cross platform core toolkit for scientific and technical writing?
Thanks, As you say an interesting combination, but if I wasn't using R, I would be using very expensive commercial alternatives, which I still have licenses for , but no longer upgrade. Graham curtis osterhoudt wrote: For me it's Mathematica (decidedly *not* free or open-source!) and XFig. Two of the strangest programs paired up, but they work for about 99% of the graphics I need to produce for LyX. Incidentally, Origin (at least versions 6 and previously; I haven't tried yet with the newest) runs just fine under Wine on linux. Cheers, C.O. / Down with categorical imperative! flutz...@yahoo.com / From: Graham Smith graham.sm...@myotis.co.uk To: LyX Users List lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2009 7:29:21 AM Subject: Re: LyX - cross platform core toolkit for scientific and technical writing? Uwe Uwe Stöhr wrote: Graham Smith schrieb: I conclude that you don't think there is no obvious core toolkit of companion programs for Lyx. Yes, and I like that you can decide by your own what suits you the best. M, I think now that you misunderstood my question, its because you can choose what suits you best and there is so much choice that I was interested in what different people considered to represent a core set of companion programs for Lyx. But it was only an idle thought as I was reviewing the programs I use. Graham
Re: LyX - cross platform core toolkit for scientific and technical writing?
--- On Sun, 5/24/09, Graham Smith graham.sm...@myotis.co.uk wrote: As you say an interesting combination, but if I wasn't using R, I would be using very expensive commercial alternatives, which I still have licenses for , but no longer upgrade. I use gnuplot either with latex or fig terminal for graphic plot (plotting data, etc). Wayan
Lyx - cross platform core toolkit for scientific and technical writing?
The recent thread on graphics formats has got me thinking about what would might be considered a core (cross platform) toolkit for Lyx users. I tend to work with Emacs for general note taking etc, and Open Office when I feel the need for an "Office" application, and Freemind for brainstorming. I also use combination of Zotero and Jabref to manage reference material. Although not really part of a Lyx toolkit most my graphics are generated in R. However, sometimes this can be rather tedious. I have recently come across matplotlib for python, and am having some success with it, but not sure whether I shouldn't focus my efforts on expanding my R skills. Equally PSTricks given its Latex, may be worth learning as any increased understanding of Latex has benefits for using Lyx. Or is fig a better general purpose option. For photo editing GIMP, or is there a lighter weight option more suited to the tweaks that we need to do to prepare a photo for publication. We seemed spoilt for choice, which is good, but equally rather confusing as many programs have similar but different features and many features that overlap. And of course I may well have missed the obvious So would anyone like to suggest a basic Lyx toolkit, that would cover the range of things we tend to do when producing scientific papers and technical reports. The list of "Lyx support" programs that you automatically install when you get a new computer. Many thanks, Graham
Re: LyX - cross platform core toolkit for scientific and technical writing?
Graham Smith schrieb: So would anyone like to suggest a basic LyX toolkit, that would cover the range of things we tend to do when producing scientific papers and technical reports. That strongly depends on your research field. As physicist I use for example Origin http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_(software) that is only available commercially only for Windows while my colleagues on Linux use a free Origin clone like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QtiPlot http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LabPlot http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SciDAVis But the program you are using doesn't matter since you can create PDF images with all these programs and use them in LyX. For illustrations we use Inkscape http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inkscape or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adobe_Illustrator both programs output either PDF or SVG that can be opened and modified with many other programs. For exact illustrations containing dimensions you can use a CAD program of your choice. You can create PDF images from all CAD programs. As you can see you are free to use any program you like, only assure that you get your images as a vector graphic, if possible as PDF. (Other vector graphics output formats like EPS and SVG can easily be converted PDF with free software.) regards Uwe
Re: LyX - cross platform core toolkit for scientific and technical writing?
Thanks Uwe, I conclude that you don't think there is no obvious core toolkit of companion programs for Lyx. But its interesting you use Origin rather than some of the open source options. Graham Uwe Stöhr wrote: Graham Smith schrieb: So would anyone like to suggest a basic LyX toolkit, that would cover the range of things we tend to do when producing scientific papers and technical reports. That strongly depends on your research field. As physicist I use for example Origin http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_(software) that is only available commercially only for Windows while my colleagues on Linux use a free Origin clone like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QtiPlot http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LabPlot http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SciDAVis But the program you are using doesn't matter since you can create PDF images with all these programs and use them in LyX. For illustrations we use Inkscape http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inkscape or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adobe_Illustrator both programs output either PDF or SVG that can be opened and modified with many other programs. For exact illustrations containing dimensions you can use a CAD program of your choice. You can create PDF images from all CAD programs. As you can see you are free to use any program you like, only assure that you get your images as a vector graphic, if possible as PDF. (Other vector graphics output formats like EPS and SVG can easily be converted PDF with free software.) regards Uwe -- Graham M Smith graham.sm...@myotis.co.uk Station Cottage, Station Road Binegar, Somerset BA3 4UQ
Re: LyX - cross platform core toolkit for scientific and technical writing?
Graham Smith schrieb: I conclude that you don't think there is no obvious core toolkit of companion programs for Lyx. Yes, and I like that you can decide by your own what suits you the best. But its interesting you use Origin rather than some of the open source options. Because it is simply better and provides much more features. regards Uwe
Re: LyX - cross platform core toolkit for scientific and technical writing?
Uwe Uwe Stöhr wrote: Graham Smith schrieb: I conclude that you don't think there is no obvious core toolkit of companion programs for Lyx. Yes, and I like that you can decide by your own what suits you the best. M, I think now that you misunderstood my question, its because you can choose what suits you best and there is so much choice that I was interested in what different people considered to represent a core set of companion programs for Lyx. But it was only an idle thought as I was reviewing the programs I use. Graham
Re: LyX - cross platform core toolkit for scientific and technical writing?
For me it's Mathematica (decidedly *not* free or open-source!) and XFig. Two of the strangest programs paired up, but they work for about 99% of the graphics I need to produce for LyX. Incidentally, Origin (at least versions 6 and previously; I haven't tried yet with the newest) runs just fine under Wine on linux. Cheers, C.O. / Down with categorical imperative! flutz...@yahoo.com / From: Graham Smith <graham.sm...@myotis.co.uk> To: LyX Users List <lyx-users@lists.lyx.org> Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2009 7:29:21 AM Subject: Re: LyX - cross platform core toolkit for scientific and technical writing? Uwe Uwe Stöhr wrote: > Graham Smith schrieb: > >> I conclude that you don't think there is no obvious core toolkit of >> companion programs for Lyx. > > Yes, and I like that you can decide by your own what suits you the best. M, I think now that you misunderstood my question, its because you can choose what suits you best and there is so much choice that I was interested in what different people considered to represent a core set of companion programs for Lyx. But it was only an idle thought as I was reviewing the programs I use. Graham
Re: LyX - cross platform core toolkit for scientific and technical writing?
Thanks, As you say an interesting combination, but if I wasn't using R, I would be using very expensive commercial alternatives, which I still have licenses for , but no longer upgrade. Graham curtis osterhoudt wrote: For me it's Mathematica (decidedly *not* free or open-source!) and XFig. Two of the strangest programs paired up, but they work for about 99% of the graphics I need to produce for LyX. Incidentally, Origin (at least versions 6 and previously; I haven't tried yet with the newest) runs just fine under Wine on linux. Cheers, C.O. / Down with categorical imperative! flutz...@yahoo.com / From: Graham Smith <graham.sm...@myotis.co.uk> To: LyX Users List <lyx-users@lists.lyx.org> Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2009 7:29:21 AM Subject: Re: LyX - cross platform core toolkit for scientific and technical writing? Uwe Uwe Stöhr wrote: Graham Smith schrieb: I conclude that you don't think there is no obvious core toolkit of companion programs for Lyx. Yes, and I like that you can decide by your own what suits you the best. M, I think now that you misunderstood my question, its because you can choose what suits you best and there is so much choice that I was interested in what different people considered to represent a core set of companion programs for Lyx. But it was only an idle thought as I was reviewing the programs I use. Graham
Re: LyX - cross platform core toolkit for scientific and technical writing?
--- On Sun, 5/24/09, Graham Smithwrote: > As you say an interesting combination, but if I wasn't > using R, I would be using very expensive commercial alternatives, > which I still have licenses for , but no longer upgrade. I use gnuplot either with latex or fig terminal for graphic plot (plotting data, etc). Wayan