Re: LyX 2.3 --- Citation at end of a quotation

[Richard Kimberly Heck]

On 03/21/2018 03:39 AM, F M Salter wrote:
>
>
>
> On 20/03/18 14:34, Richard Kimberly Heck
> 
> wrote:
>> Hi.
>>
>> I think the reason for the problem Frank reported is that LaTeX discards
>> leading space in some cases. So, if you just put a horizontal fill, with
>> nothing ahead of it, LaTeX ignores it. The solution is to "protect" this 
>> space.
>> There's a checkbox for that in the dialog. Note that this will work if you 
>> just
>> use a linebreak instead of a new paragraph.
>>
> Thank you. This worked perfectly.
>
> However, there is an awkwardness in how this is shown in LyX.
> Doing what Riki said shows, to the left of the citation, a small glyph
> producing the horizontal fill.  The citation appears to be on the left
> but prints correctly to the right.  At other times a horizontal fill
> shows as a horizontal line and the text moves to the right.

Yes, I noticed that. I've filed a bug about it.

Riki

Re: LyX 2.3 --- Citation at end of a quotation

[F M Salter]

On 20/03/18 14:34, Richard Kimberly Heck

wrote:
> Hi.
>
> I think the reason for the problem Frank reported is that LaTeX discards
> leading space in some cases. So, if you just put a horizontal fill, with
> nothing ahead of it, LaTeX ignores it. The solution is to "protect" this 
> space.
> There's a checkbox for that in the dialog. Note that this will work if you 
> just
> use a linebreak instead of a new paragraph.
>
Thank you. This worked perfectly.

However, there is an awkwardness in how this is shown in LyX.
Doing what Riki said shows, to the left of the citation, a small glyph
producing the horizontal fill.  The citation appears to be on the left
but prints correctly to the right.  At other times a horizontal fill
shows as a horizontal line and the text moves to the right.

Regards
Frank Salter

Re: LyX 2.3 --- Citation at end of a quotation

[Richard Kimberly Heck]

On 03/19/2018 01:11 PM, Rich Shepard wrote:
> On Mon, 19 Mar 2018, F M Salter wrote:
>
>>     I am trying to cite a quotation, so that the citation is placed
>> right
>> justified on the line following the last line of the quotation.
>
>>     Is there a correct way to achieve the desired output automatically?
>
> Frank,
>
>   I won't claim this to be the 'correct' way, but what I've done after a
> newline is type the citation then use Edit -> Paragraph settings ->
> Right.
> If vertical spacing is needed to keep the quotation and citation
> together a
> slight negative spacing usually does the trick. Otherwise, I adjust
> the text
> so the page break is where I want it to be.

I think the reason for the problem Frank reported is that LaTeX discards
leading space in some cases. So, if you just put a horizontal fill, with
nothing
ahead of it, LaTeX ignores it. The solution is to "protect" this space.
There's
a checkbox for that in the dialog. Note that this will work if you just
use a
linebreak instead of a new paragraph.

Riki

Re: LyX 2.3 --- Citation at end of a quotation

[Rich Shepard]

On Mon, 19 Mar 2018, F M Salter wrote:


    I am trying to cite a quotation, so that the citation is placed right
justified on the line following the last line of the quotation.



    Is there a correct way to achieve the desired output automatically?


Frank,

  I won't claim this to be the 'correct' way, but what I've done after a
newline is type the citation then use Edit -> Paragraph settings -> Right.
If vertical spacing is needed to keep the quotation and citation together a
slight negative spacing usually does the trick. Otherwise, I adjust the text
so the page break is where I want it to be.

Regards,

Rich

LyX 2.3 --- Citation at end of a quotation

[F M Salter]

Hi.

    I am trying to cite a quotation, so that the citation is placed
right justified on the line following the last line of the quotation.

    After ^Enter ^space  , LyX displays a
line with the citation on the right.  But the pdf output has the
citation left justified on the following line.

    If the citation is placed right justified on the following line, it
appears as requested, but the citation can become a widow.

    Is there a correct way to achieve the desired output automatically?

Regards

Frank Salter