Re: Lyx 1.6.5 Installer

[Olivier Ripoll]

Vincent van Ravesteijn wrote:

Uwe Stöhr schreef:

Am 13.12.2009 14:10, schrieb Vincent van Ravesteijn:


LyX is programmed in a way that a console is always started. My and
also the standard installer hides it immediately.


The standard installer doesn't open this console window.


Ok, I see some extra movement in the task bar when opening LyX, .. 
that's all.


I believe that with your installer, one can really see a window popping 
up (or two).


Well, it's three in fact: first two windows open and close quickly, then 
one opens and stays for quite a while. That's probably the one most 
people complain about. this one opens also if you use lyxLauncher.exe or 
lyx.exe.


If you change the lyx.bat start command with /MIN and/or /B, the 2 
first windows will actually stay longer (IOW don't do that ;-) ).


Note that it's unclear to me why such a minor cosmetic problem who lead 
to prefer one installer over the other. Uwe's installer has the 
advantage of being out sometimes up to 1 week before the other one. 
That's quite a significant bonus if you are waiting for the new version 
because you have a nasty problem (crash, etc.).


Best regards,

Olivier

PS: I also remember that there is a message about installing PyWin or 
something with a similar name to avoid the console. Could that be a 
difference between installers ?




Vincent

Re: Lyx 1.6.5 Installer

[Olivier Ripoll]

Vincent van Ravesteijn wrote:

Uwe Stöhr schreef:

Am 13.12.2009 14:10, schrieb Vincent van Ravesteijn:


LyX is programmed in a way that a console is always started. My and
also the standard installer hides it immediately.


The standard installer doesn't open this console window.


Ok, I see some extra movement in the task bar when opening LyX, .. 
that's all.


I believe that with your installer, one can really see a window popping 
up (or two).


Well, it's three in fact: first two windows open and close quickly, then 
one opens and stays for quite a while. That's probably the one most 
people complain about. this one opens also if you use lyxLauncher.exe or 
lyx.exe.


If you change the lyx.bat start command with /MIN and/or /B, the 2 
first windows will actually stay longer (IOW don't do that ;-) ).


Note that it's unclear to me why such a minor cosmetic problem who lead 
to prefer one installer over the other. Uwe's installer has the 
advantage of being out sometimes up to 1 week before the other one. 
That's quite a significant bonus if you are waiting for the new version 
because you have a nasty problem (crash, etc.).


Best regards,

Olivier

PS: I also remember that there is a message about installing PyWin or 
something with a similar name to avoid the console. Could that be a 
difference between installers ?




Vincent

Re: Lyx 1.6.5 Installer

[Olivier Ripoll]

Vincent van Ravesteijn wrote:

Uwe Stöhr schreef:

Am 13.12.2009 14:10, schrieb Vincent van Ravesteijn:


LyX is programmed in a way that a console is always started. My and
also the standard installer hides it immediately.


The standard installer doesn't open this console window.


Ok, I see some extra movement in the task bar when opening LyX, .. 
that's all.


I believe that with your installer, one can really see a window popping 
up (or two).


Well, it's three in fact: first two windows open and close quickly, then 
one opens and stays for quite a while. That's probably the one most 
people complain about. this one opens also if you use lyxLauncher.exe or 
lyx.exe.


If you change the lyx.bat start command with "/MIN" and/or "/B", the 2 
first windows will actually stay longer (IOW don't do that ;-) ).


Note that it's unclear to me why such a minor cosmetic problem who lead 
to prefer one installer over the other. Uwe's installer has the 
advantage of being out sometimes up to 1 week before the other one. 
That's quite a significant bonus if you are waiting for the new version 
because you have a nasty problem (crash, etc.).


Best regards,

Olivier

PS: I also remember that there is a message about installing "PyWin" or 
something with a similar name to avoid the console. Could that be a 
difference between installers ?




Vincent

Re: Lyx 1.6.5 Installer

[Vincent van Ravesteijn]

Uwe Stöhr schreef:

Murat Yildizoglu schrieb:

I can see two console windows opening each time I launch Lyx using 
the bat file that has been installed by the alternative installer. 
They disappear very quickly (I do not have time to read their contents).


This is how it should be.
LyX is programmed in a way that a console is always started. My and 
also the standard installer hides it immediately.


The standard installer doesn't open this console window.

Vincent

Re: Lyx 1.6.5 Installer

[Uwe Stöhr]

Am 13.12.2009 14:10, schrieb Vincent van Ravesteijn:


LyX is programmed in a way that a console is always started. My and
also the standard installer hides it immediately.


The standard installer doesn't open this console window.


No, this installer does the same:

Section -Launch

  # Start LyX and capture the command line output

  Push '$EXEDIR\lyx.exe $Parameters'
  CallInstDLL $EXEDIR\Console.dll ExecToLog
  Pop $ReturnValue #Return value

SectionEnd

This is done in the file launcher.nsi. This procedure is a bit different of mine because the console 
output is copied to LyX and thus directly accessible from within LyX. This special feature lead in 
the past to problems and I therefore only hide the console window.
The LyX console window cannot be avoided, we had a long discussion about this in the past. To get 
rid of the console LyX need to be reprogrammed which is not wanted.


regards Uwe

Re: Lyx 1.6.5 Installer

[Vincent van Ravesteijn]

Uwe Stöhr schreef:

Am 13.12.2009 14:10, schrieb Vincent van Ravesteijn:


LyX is programmed in a way that a console is always started. My and
also the standard installer hides it immediately.


The standard installer doesn't open this console window.


Ok, I see some extra movement in the task bar when opening LyX, .. 
that's all.


I believe that with your installer, one can really see a window popping 
up (or two).


Vincent

Re: Lyx 1.6.5 Installer

[Uwe Stöhr]

Am 13.12.2009 15:10, schrieb Vincent van Ravesteijn:


Ok, I see some extra movement in the task bar when opening LyX, ..
that's all.

I believe that with your installer, one can really see a window popping
up (or two).


This is correct, but they are closed immediately -- takes a few milliseconds. I don't think that 
this is a problem. It would only be annoying and a bug if the console window is not closed.


regards Uwe

Re: Lyx 1.6.5 Installer

[Vincent van Ravesteijn]

Uwe Stöhr schreef:

Murat Yildizoglu schrieb:

I can see two console windows opening each time I launch Lyx using 
the bat file that has been installed by the alternative installer. 
They disappear very quickly (I do not have time to read their contents).


This is how it should be.
LyX is programmed in a way that a console is always started. My and 
also the standard installer hides it immediately.


The standard installer doesn't open this console window.

Vincent

Re: Lyx 1.6.5 Installer

[Uwe Stöhr]

Am 13.12.2009 14:10, schrieb Vincent van Ravesteijn:


LyX is programmed in a way that a console is always started. My and
also the standard installer hides it immediately.


The standard installer doesn't open this console window.


No, this installer does the same:

Section -Launch

  # Start LyX and capture the command line output

  Push '$EXEDIR\lyx.exe $Parameters'
  CallInstDLL $EXEDIR\Console.dll ExecToLog
  Pop $ReturnValue #Return value

SectionEnd

This is done in the file launcher.nsi. This procedure is a bit different of mine because the console 
output is copied to LyX and thus directly accessible from within LyX. This special feature lead in 
the past to problems and I therefore only hide the console window.
The LyX console window cannot be avoided, we had a long discussion about this in the past. To get 
rid of the console LyX need to be reprogrammed which is not wanted.


regards Uwe

Re: Lyx 1.6.5 Installer

[Vincent van Ravesteijn]

Uwe Stöhr schreef:

Am 13.12.2009 14:10, schrieb Vincent van Ravesteijn:


LyX is programmed in a way that a console is always started. My and
also the standard installer hides it immediately.


The standard installer doesn't open this console window.


Ok, I see some extra movement in the task bar when opening LyX, .. 
that's all.


I believe that with your installer, one can really see a window popping 
up (or two).


Vincent

Re: Lyx 1.6.5 Installer

[Uwe Stöhr]

Am 13.12.2009 15:10, schrieb Vincent van Ravesteijn:


Ok, I see some extra movement in the task bar when opening LyX, ..
that's all.

I believe that with your installer, one can really see a window popping
up (or two).


This is correct, but they are closed immediately -- takes a few milliseconds. I don't think that 
this is a problem. It would only be annoying and a bug if the console window is not closed.


regards Uwe

Re: Lyx 1.6.5 Installer

[Vincent van Ravesteijn]

Uwe Stöhr schreef:

Murat Yildizoglu schrieb:

I can see two console windows opening each time I launch Lyx using 
the bat file that has been installed by the alternative installer. 
They disappear very quickly (I do not have time to read their contents).


This is how it should be.
LyX is programmed in a way that a console is always started. My and 
also the standard installer hides it immediately.


The standard installer doesn't open this console window.

Vincent

Re: Lyx 1.6.5 Installer

[Uwe Stöhr]

Am 13.12.2009 14:10, schrieb Vincent van Ravesteijn:


LyX is programmed in a way that a console is always started. My and
also the standard installer hides it immediately.


The standard installer doesn't open this console window.


No, this installer does the same:

Section -Launch

  # Start LyX and capture the command line output

  Push '"$EXEDIR\lyx.exe" $Parameters'
  CallInstDLL "$EXEDIR\Console.dll" ExecToLog
  Pop $ReturnValue #Return value

SectionEnd

This is done in the file launcher.nsi. This procedure is a bit different of mine because the console 
output is copied to LyX and thus directly accessible from within LyX. This special feature lead in 
the past to problems and I therefore only hide the console window.
The LyX console window cannot be avoided, we had a long discussion about this in the past. To get 
rid of the console LyX need to be reprogrammed which is not wanted.


regards Uwe

Re: Lyx 1.6.5 Installer

[Vincent van Ravesteijn]

Uwe Stöhr schreef:

Am 13.12.2009 14:10, schrieb Vincent van Ravesteijn:


LyX is programmed in a way that a console is always started. My and
also the standard installer hides it immediately.


The standard installer doesn't open this console window.


Ok, I see some extra movement in the task bar when opening LyX, .. 
that's all.


I believe that with your installer, one can really see a window popping 
up (or two).


Vincent

Re: Lyx 1.6.5 Installer

[Uwe Stöhr]

Am 13.12.2009 15:10, schrieb Vincent van Ravesteijn:


Ok, I see some extra movement in the task bar when opening LyX, ..
that's all.

I believe that with your installer, one can really see a window popping
up (or two).


This is correct, but they are closed immediately -- takes a few milliseconds. I don't think that 
this is a problem. It would only be annoying and a bug if the console window is not closed.


regards Uwe

Re: Lyx 1.6.5 Installer

[Manveru]

2009/12/12 Diego Queiroz queiroz.di...@gmail.com:
 Hello.

 Thanks for your reply.

 I don't know if it is a good reason, but the alternative installer shows up
 an annoying console window when it opens. I really dislikes it, haha.

 In general, I think the standalone installer is more clean. This is why I
 prefer it. :-)


With all respect to your contribution Uwe, this is my preference too :-)

-- 
Manveru
jabber: manv...@manveru.pl
 gg: 1624001
   http://www.manveru.pl

OT: Re: Lyx 1.6.5 Installer

[Florian Rubach]

Am 12.12.2009 09:00, schrieb Manveru:

2009/12/12 Diego Queirozqueiroz.di...@gmail.com:
   

Hello.

Thanks for your reply.

I don't know if it is a good reason, but the alternative installer shows up
an annoying console window when it opens. I really dislikes it, haha.

In general, I think the standalone installer is more clean. This is why I
prefer it. :-)

 

With all respect to your contribution Uwe, this is my preference too :-)
   


I vote for the alt-installer ;)

Re: OT: Re: Lyx 1.6.5 Installer

[Murat Yildizoglu]

I have recently adopted the AltInstaller and I really like the upgrade
function and everything you need is in dimension of the complete
version. I first do a complete Miktex install or update, then the
upgrade through the AltInstaller and it works like a charm, even very
quick. I find the console window slightly annoying, but not enough to
counter-weight the advantages of the bundle. So, one vote for the alt
installer here too.

Thanks again Uwe for this public service!

Regards,

Murat

2009/12/12 Florian Rubach florian.rub...@gmx.de:
 Am 12.12.2009 09:00, schrieb Manveru:

 2009/12/12 Diego Queirozqueiroz.di...@gmail.com:


 Hello.

 Thanks for your reply.

 I don't know if it is a good reason, but the alternative installer shows
 up
 an annoying console window when it opens. I really dislikes it, haha.

 In general, I think the standalone installer is more clean. This is why
 I
 prefer it. :-)



 With all respect to your contribution Uwe, this is my preference too :-)


 I vote for the alt-installer ;)




-- 
Prof. Murat Yildizoglu
Université Paul Cézanne (Aix-Marseille 3)
GREQAM (UMR CNRS 6579)
Centre de la Vieille Charité
2, rue de la Charité
13236 Marseille cedex 02

Bureau 320
Tel : +33 4 91 14 07 27 (standard)
Tel : +33 4 91 14 07 70 (secrétariat)
Tel : +33 4 91 14 07 47 (bureau)
Fax : +33 4 91 90 02 27

e-mail: murat.yildizo...@univ-cezanne.fr
www : http://www.vcharite.univ-mrs.fr/PP/yildi/index.html
http://www.twitter.com/yildizoglu
__

Re: Lyx 1.6.5 Installer

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Diego Queiroz wrote:
 Someone knoes when Windows binaries for Lyx 1.6.5 will be available?

It's available now.

Jürgen

Re: Lyx 1.6.5 Installer

[Uwe Stöhr]

Diego Queiroz schrieb:


I don't know if it is a good reason, but the alternative installer shows up
an annoying console window when it opens.


Really? This should only be visible for a few milliseconds. Only at the first start after an 
installation the console Windows is shown to indicate the current installation status of LaTeX-packages.



In general, I think the standalone installer is more clean. This is why I
prefer it. :-)


They do basically the same (also the hiding of the console window), the 
differences are listed here:
http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyXWinInstaller#detailed-comparison

regards Uwe

Re: Lyx 1.6.5 Installer

[Uwe Stöhr]

Manveru schrieb:


In general, I think the standalone installer is more clean. This is why I
prefer it. :-)


With all respect to your contribution Uwe, this is my preference too :-)


Why exactly? How can I improve a product without clear statements?

regards Uwe

Re: OT: Re: Lyx 1.6.5 Installer

[Uwe Stöhr]

Murat Yildizoglu schrieb:


I find the console window slightly annoying,


Me too but I don't get a console Window. Not on Win2000, WinXP, WinVista, Win7. Also not on 64bit 
systems, and also not with an English, German, or Japanese Windows.


Do you always get this Window, also when double-clicking on the file 
lyxLauncher.exe?

regards Uwe

Re: Lyx 1.6.5 Installer

[Murat Yildizoglu]

I can see two console windows opening each time I launch Lyx using the  
bat file that has been installed by the alternative installer. They  
disappear very quickly (I do not have time to read their contents).

Murat

--
Murat Yildizoglu
murat.yildizo...@univ-cezanne.fr

Le 12 déc. 2009 à 21:49, Uwe Stöhr uwesto...@web.de a écrit :


Diego Queiroz schrieb:

I don't know if it is a good reason, but the alternative installer  
shows up

an annoying console window when it opens.


Really? This should only be visible for a few milliseconds. Only at  
the first start after an installation the console Windows is shown  
to indicate the current installation status of LaTeX-packages.


In general, I think the standalone installer is more clean. This  
is why I

prefer it. :-)


They do basically the same (also the hiding of the console window),  
the differences are listed here:

http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyXWinInstaller#detailed-comparison

regards Uwe

Re: Lyx 1.6.5 Installer

[Uwe Stöhr]

Murat Yildizoglu schrieb:

I can see two console windows opening each time I launch Lyx using the 
bat file that has been installed by the alternative installer. They 
disappear very quickly (I do not have time to read their contents).


This is how it should be.
LyX is programmed in a way that a console is always started. My and also the standard installer 
hides it immediately. That you can see the console for a few milliseconds is normal. The time 
depends on the speed of your system.

So I don't understand your concerns.

regards Uwe

Re: Lyx 1.6.5 Installer

[Manveru]

2009/12/12 Diego Queiroz queiroz.di...@gmail.com:
 Hello.

 Thanks for your reply.

 I don't know if it is a good reason, but the alternative installer shows up
 an annoying console window when it opens. I really dislikes it, haha.

 In general, I think the standalone installer is more clean. This is why I
 prefer it. :-)


With all respect to your contribution Uwe, this is my preference too :-)

-- 
Manveru
jabber: manv...@manveru.pl
 gg: 1624001
   http://www.manveru.pl

OT: Re: Lyx 1.6.5 Installer

[Florian Rubach]

Am 12.12.2009 09:00, schrieb Manveru:

2009/12/12 Diego Queirozqueiroz.di...@gmail.com:
   

Hello.

Thanks for your reply.

I don't know if it is a good reason, but the alternative installer shows up
an annoying console window when it opens. I really dislikes it, haha.

In general, I think the standalone installer is more clean. This is why I
prefer it. :-)

 

With all respect to your contribution Uwe, this is my preference too :-)
   


I vote for the alt-installer ;)

Re: OT: Re: Lyx 1.6.5 Installer

[Murat Yildizoglu]

I have recently adopted the AltInstaller and I really like the upgrade
function and everything you need is in dimension of the complete
version. I first do a complete Miktex install or update, then the
upgrade through the AltInstaller and it works like a charm, even very
quick. I find the console window slightly annoying, but not enough to
counter-weight the advantages of the bundle. So, one vote for the alt
installer here too.

Thanks again Uwe for this public service!

Regards,

Murat

2009/12/12 Florian Rubach florian.rub...@gmx.de:
 Am 12.12.2009 09:00, schrieb Manveru:

 2009/12/12 Diego Queirozqueiroz.di...@gmail.com:


 Hello.

 Thanks for your reply.

 I don't know if it is a good reason, but the alternative installer shows
 up
 an annoying console window when it opens. I really dislikes it, haha.

 In general, I think the standalone installer is more clean. This is why
 I
 prefer it. :-)



 With all respect to your contribution Uwe, this is my preference too :-)


 I vote for the alt-installer ;)




-- 
Prof. Murat Yildizoglu
Université Paul Cézanne (Aix-Marseille 3)
GREQAM (UMR CNRS 6579)
Centre de la Vieille Charité
2, rue de la Charité
13236 Marseille cedex 02

Bureau 320
Tel : +33 4 91 14 07 27 (standard)
Tel : +33 4 91 14 07 70 (secrétariat)
Tel : +33 4 91 14 07 47 (bureau)
Fax : +33 4 91 90 02 27

e-mail: murat.yildizo...@univ-cezanne.fr
www : http://www.vcharite.univ-mrs.fr/PP/yildi/index.html
http://www.twitter.com/yildizoglu
__

Re: Lyx 1.6.5 Installer

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Diego Queiroz wrote:
 Someone knoes when Windows binaries for Lyx 1.6.5 will be available?

It's available now.

Jürgen

Re: Lyx 1.6.5 Installer

[Uwe Stöhr]

Diego Queiroz schrieb:


I don't know if it is a good reason, but the alternative installer shows up
an annoying console window when it opens.


Really? This should only be visible for a few milliseconds. Only at the first start after an 
installation the console Windows is shown to indicate the current installation status of LaTeX-packages.



In general, I think the standalone installer is more clean. This is why I
prefer it. :-)


They do basically the same (also the hiding of the console window), the 
differences are listed here:
http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyXWinInstaller#detailed-comparison

regards Uwe

Re: Lyx 1.6.5 Installer

[Uwe Stöhr]

Manveru schrieb:


In general, I think the standalone installer is more clean. This is why I
prefer it. :-)


With all respect to your contribution Uwe, this is my preference too :-)


Why exactly? How can I improve a product without clear statements?

regards Uwe

Re: OT: Re: Lyx 1.6.5 Installer

[Uwe Stöhr]

Murat Yildizoglu schrieb:


I find the console window slightly annoying,


Me too but I don't get a console Window. Not on Win2000, WinXP, WinVista, Win7. Also not on 64bit 
systems, and also not with an English, German, or Japanese Windows.


Do you always get this Window, also when double-clicking on the file 
lyxLauncher.exe?

regards Uwe

Re: Lyx 1.6.5 Installer

[Murat Yildizoglu]

I can see two console windows opening each time I launch Lyx using the  
bat file that has been installed by the alternative installer. They  
disappear very quickly (I do not have time to read their contents).

Murat

--
Murat Yildizoglu
murat.yildizo...@univ-cezanne.fr

Le 12 déc. 2009 à 21:49, Uwe Stöhr uwesto...@web.de a écrit :


Diego Queiroz schrieb:

I don't know if it is a good reason, but the alternative installer  
shows up

an annoying console window when it opens.


Really? This should only be visible for a few milliseconds. Only at  
the first start after an installation the console Windows is shown  
to indicate the current installation status of LaTeX-packages.


In general, I think the standalone installer is more clean. This  
is why I

prefer it. :-)


They do basically the same (also the hiding of the console window),  
the differences are listed here:

http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyXWinInstaller#detailed-comparison

regards Uwe

Re: Lyx 1.6.5 Installer

[Uwe Stöhr]

Murat Yildizoglu schrieb:

I can see two console windows opening each time I launch Lyx using the 
bat file that has been installed by the alternative installer. They 
disappear very quickly (I do not have time to read their contents).


This is how it should be.
LyX is programmed in a way that a console is always started. My and also the standard installer 
hides it immediately. That you can see the console for a few milliseconds is normal. The time 
depends on the speed of your system.

So I don't understand your concerns.

regards Uwe

Re: Lyx 1.6.5 Installer

[Manveru]

2009/12/12 Diego Queiroz :
> Hello.
>
> Thanks for your reply.
>
> I don't know if it is a good reason, but the alternative installer shows up
> an annoying console window when it opens. I really dislikes it, haha.
>
> In general, I think the standalone installer is more "clean". This is why I
> prefer it. :-)
>

With all respect to your contribution Uwe, this is my preference too :-)

-- 
Manveru
jabber: manv...@manveru.pl
 gg: 1624001
   http://www.manveru.pl

OT: Re: Lyx 1.6.5 Installer

[Florian Rubach]

Am 12.12.2009 09:00, schrieb Manveru:

2009/12/12 Diego Queiroz:
   

Hello.

Thanks for your reply.

I don't know if it is a good reason, but the alternative installer shows up
an annoying console window when it opens. I really dislikes it, haha.

In general, I think the standalone installer is more "clean". This is why I
prefer it. :-)

 

With all respect to your contribution Uwe, this is my preference too :-)
   


I vote for the alt-installer ;)

Re: OT: Re: Lyx 1.6.5 Installer

[Murat Yildizoglu]

I have recently adopted the AltInstaller and I really like the upgrade
function and "everything you need is in" dimension of the complete
version. I first do a complete Miktex install or update, then the
upgrade through the AltInstaller and it works like a charm, even very
quick. I find the console window slightly annoying, but not enough to
counter-weight the advantages of the bundle. So, one vote for the alt
installer here too.

Thanks again Uwe for this public service!

Regards,

Murat

2009/12/12 Florian Rubach :
> Am 12.12.2009 09:00, schrieb Manveru:
>>
>> 2009/12/12 Diego Queiroz:
>>
>>>
>>> Hello.
>>>
>>> Thanks for your reply.
>>>
>>> I don't know if it is a good reason, but the alternative installer shows
>>> up
>>> an annoying console window when it opens. I really dislikes it, haha.
>>>
>>> In general, I think the standalone installer is more "clean". This is why
>>> I
>>> prefer it. :-)
>>>
>>>
>>
>> With all respect to your contribution Uwe, this is my preference too :-)
>>
>
> I vote for the alt-installer ;)
>



-- 
Prof. Murat Yildizoglu
Université Paul Cézanne (Aix-Marseille 3)
GREQAM (UMR CNRS 6579)
Centre de la Vieille Charité
2, rue de la Charité
13236 Marseille cedex 02

Bureau 320
Tel : +33 4 91 14 07 27 (standard)
Tel : +33 4 91 14 07 70 (secrétariat)
Tel : +33 4 91 14 07 47 (bureau)
Fax : +33 4 91 90 02 27

e-mail: murat.yildizo...@univ-cezanne.fr
www : http://www.vcharite.univ-mrs.fr/PP/yildi/index.html
http://www.twitter.com/yildizoglu
__

Re: Lyx 1.6.5 Installer

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Diego Queiroz wrote:
> Someone knoes when Windows binaries for Lyx 1.6.5 will be available?

It's available now.

Jürgen

Re: Lyx 1.6.5 Installer

[Uwe Stöhr]

Diego Queiroz schrieb:


I don't know if it is a good reason, but the alternative installer shows up
an annoying console window when it opens.


Really? This should only be visible for a few milliseconds. Only at the first start after an 
installation the console Windows is shown to indicate the current installation status of LaTeX-packages.



In general, I think the standalone installer is more "clean". This is why I
prefer it. :-)


They do basically the same (also the hiding of the console window), the 
differences are listed here:
http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyXWinInstaller#detailed-comparison

regards Uwe

Re: Lyx 1.6.5 Installer

[Uwe Stöhr]

Manveru schrieb:


In general, I think the standalone installer is more "clean". This is why I
prefer it. :-)


With all respect to your contribution Uwe, this is my preference too :-)


Why exactly? How can I improve a product without clear statements?

regards Uwe

Re: OT: Re: Lyx 1.6.5 Installer

[Uwe Stöhr]

Murat Yildizoglu schrieb:


I find the console window slightly annoying,


Me too but I don't get a console Window. Not on Win2000, WinXP, WinVista, Win7. Also not on 64bit 
systems, and also not with an English, German, or Japanese Windows.


Do you always get this Window, also when double-clicking on the file 
"lyxLauncher.exe"?

regards Uwe

Re: Lyx 1.6.5 Installer

[Murat Yildizoglu]

I can see two console windows opening each time I launch Lyx using the  
bat file that has been installed by the alternative installer. They  
disappear very quickly (I do not have time to read their contents).

Murat

--
Murat Yildizoglu
murat.yildizo...@univ-cezanne.fr

Le 12 déc. 2009 à 21:49, Uwe Stöhr  a écrit :


Diego Queiroz schrieb:

I don't know if it is a good reason, but the alternative installer  
shows up

an annoying console window when it opens.


Really? This should only be visible for a few milliseconds. Only at  
the first start after an installation the console Windows is shown  
to indicate the current installation status of LaTeX-packages.


In general, I think the standalone installer is more "clean". This  
is why I

prefer it. :-)


They do basically the same (also the hiding of the console window),  
the differences are listed here:

http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyXWinInstaller#detailed-comparison

regards Uwe

Re: Lyx 1.6.5 Installer

[Uwe Stöhr]

Murat Yildizoglu schrieb:

I can see two console windows opening each time I launch Lyx using the 
bat file that has been installed by the alternative installer. They 
disappear very quickly (I do not have time to read their contents).


This is how it should be.
LyX is programmed in a way that a console is always started. My and also the standard installer 
hides it immediately. That you can see the console for a few milliseconds is normal. The time 
depends on the speed of your system.

So I don't understand your concerns.

regards Uwe

Lyx 1.6.5 Installer

[Diego Queiroz]

Hello.

Someone knoes when Windows binaries for Lyx 1.6.5 will be available?

(the standalone installer, not the alternative one)


Thanks,
---
Diego Queiroz

Re: Lyx 1.6.5 Installer

[Uwe Stöhr]

Diego Queiroz schrieb:


Someone knoes when Windows binaries for Lyx 1.6.5 will be available?

 (the standalone installer, not the alternative one)

No, but the installer doesn't matter. Both will install LyX on Windows. Or do you have a certain 
reason why you don't want to use the alternative installer?


regards Uwe

Re: Lyx 1.6.5 Installer

[Diego Queiroz]

Hello.

Thanks for your reply.

I don't know if it is a good reason, but the alternative installer shows up
an annoying console window when it opens. I really dislikes it, haha.

In general, I think the standalone installer is more clean. This is why I
prefer it. :-)


Regards,
---
Diego Queiroz


On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 1:00 AM, Uwe Stöhr uwesto...@web.de wrote:

 Diego Queiroz schrieb:


  Someone knoes when Windows binaries for Lyx 1.6.5 will be available?

  (the standalone installer, not the alternative one)

 No, but the installer doesn't matter. Both will install LyX on Windows. Or
 do you have a certain reason why you don't want to use the alternative
 installer?

 regards Uwe

Lyx 1.6.5 Installer

[Diego Queiroz]

Hello.

Someone knoes when Windows binaries for Lyx 1.6.5 will be available?

(the standalone installer, not the alternative one)


Thanks,
---
Diego Queiroz

Re: Lyx 1.6.5 Installer

[Uwe Stöhr]

Diego Queiroz schrieb:


Someone knoes when Windows binaries for Lyx 1.6.5 will be available?

 (the standalone installer, not the alternative one)

No, but the installer doesn't matter. Both will install LyX on Windows. Or do you have a certain 
reason why you don't want to use the alternative installer?


regards Uwe

Re: Lyx 1.6.5 Installer

[Diego Queiroz]

Hello.

Thanks for your reply.

I don't know if it is a good reason, but the alternative installer shows up
an annoying console window when it opens. I really dislikes it, haha.

In general, I think the standalone installer is more clean. This is why I
prefer it. :-)


Regards,
---
Diego Queiroz


On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 1:00 AM, Uwe Stöhr uwesto...@web.de wrote:

 Diego Queiroz schrieb:


  Someone knoes when Windows binaries for Lyx 1.6.5 will be available?

  (the standalone installer, not the alternative one)

 No, but the installer doesn't matter. Both will install LyX on Windows. Or
 do you have a certain reason why you don't want to use the alternative
 installer?

 regards Uwe

Lyx 1.6.5 Installer

[Diego Queiroz]

Hello.

Someone knoes when Windows binaries for Lyx 1.6.5 will be available?

(the standalone installer, not the alternative one)


Thanks,
---
Diego Queiroz

Re: Lyx 1.6.5 Installer

[Uwe Stöhr]

Diego Queiroz schrieb:


Someone knoes when Windows binaries for Lyx 1.6.5 will be available?

> (the standalone installer, not the alternative one)

No, but the installer doesn't matter. Both will install LyX on Windows. Or do you have a certain 
reason why you don't want to use the alternative installer?


regards Uwe

Re: Lyx 1.6.5 Installer

[Diego Queiroz]

Hello.

Thanks for your reply.

I don't know if it is a good reason, but the alternative installer shows up
an annoying console window when it opens. I really dislikes it, haha.

In general, I think the standalone installer is more "clean". This is why I
prefer it. :-)


Regards,
---
Diego Queiroz


On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 1:00 AM, Uwe Stöhr  wrote:

> Diego Queiroz schrieb:
>
>
>  Someone knoes when Windows binaries for Lyx 1.6.5 will be available?
>>
> > (the standalone installer, not the alternative one)
>
> No, but the installer doesn't matter. Both will install LyX on Windows. Or
> do you have a certain reason why you don't want to use the alternative
> installer?
>
> regards Uwe
>