Lyx and spell check

[Gennady Fiksel]

I wonder if you anyone help me with spelling in Lyx that I just 
recently installed on Max OS 10.2.3
I love the program a lot.
When tried to do spell check the same message appeared every time - 
Failed to start ispell. It happens even I change to aspell in 
Preferences. I have CocoAspell installed and it works for all other 
text editors including iTex and TexShop.
Thanks a lot in advance,


Gennady Fiksel
Associate Scientist
Department of Physics
University of Wisconsin - Madison   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
1150 University Avenue  tel. 608-263-5546
Madison, WI 53706   fax 608-262-7205
==

Re: Lyx and spell check

[Ronald Florence]

Gennady Fiksel wrote:

I wonder if you anyone help me with spelling in Lyx that I just recently 
installed on Max OS 10.2.3
I love the program a lot.
When tried to do spell check the same message appeared every time - 
Failed to start ispell. It happens even I change to aspell in 
Preferences. I have CocoAspell installed and it works for all other text 
editors including iTex and TexShop.
Configuring cocoAspell to work with LyX/Mac is covered in the LyX/Mac 
howto at http://www.18james.com/lyx_on_aqua.html.  Click on 
spell-checkers in the table of contents.
--

Ronald Florencewww.18james.com

Re: Lyx and spell check

[Aric Gregson]

On 3/3/04 9:23 Gennady Fiksel sent the following:

When tried to do spell check the same message appeared every time -
Failed to start ispell. It happens even I change to aspell in
Preferences. 
[...]

I am using aspell (without CocoAspell) with Lyx and don't have any
problems on 10.2.8. I did get errors until I successfully installed an
aspell dictionary; now it works beautifully. The directions were fairly
clear for the unix novice, but the dictionary directions leave out that
you must sudo make install, otherwise no installation will occur. 

good luck

aric

Re: Lyx and spell check

[Angus Leeming]

Ronald Florence wrote:
 Configuring cocoAspell to work with LyX/Mac is covered in the
 LyX/Mac
 howto at http://www.18james.com/lyx_on_aqua.html.  Click on
 spell-checkers in the table of contents.

Ronald, why is the LyX/Mac title on this page a hyperlink. It 
doesn't actually do anything:

a name=screenshot
h2 align=centerimg src=images/lyx.gif align=absmiddle 
alt=LyX/Mac/h2
/a

Ditto for the section titles download, prerequisites, using LyX 
etc.

Personally, I found 'em confusing so I'm interested in your rationale.

Regards,
-- 
Angus

Re: Lyx and spell check

[Ronald Florence]

Angus Leeming wrote:

Ronald, why is the LyX/Mac title on this page a hyperlink. It 
doesn't actually do anything: [...]

Ditto for the section titles download, prerequisites, using LyX 
etc.

Personally, I found 'em confusing so I'm interested in your rationale.
If you go to the Table of Contents in the frame at the bottom of your 
browser screen, you can click on Screenshot, Download, Prerequisites, 
Using LyX, etc. to navigate on the page.  What is confusing about that?
--

Ronald Florencewww.18james.com

Re: Lyx and spell check

[Angus Leeming]

Angus Leeming wrote:

 Ronald Florence wrote:
 
 Angus Leeming wrote:
 
 Ronald, why is the LyX/Mac title on this page a hyperlink. It
 doesn't actually do anything: [...]
 
 Ditto for the section titles download, prerequisites, using
 LyX etc.
 
 Personally, I found 'em confusing so I'm interested in your
 rationale.
 
 If you go to the Table of Contents in the frame at the bottom of
 your browser screen, you can click on Screenshot, Download,
 Prerequisites,
 Using LyX, etc. to navigate on the page.  What is confusing about
 that?
 
 Ahhh. I hadn't registered that they were labels. I was just
 surprised that they turned red as my mouse went over them. Labels
 don't usually change colour like that...

In fact, looking at the code on the LyX news page, I find that labels 
such as these have zero size:

a name=item3/a
h3
  span class=newsaux
New resource:
  /span 
  LyX WikiWiki site relocated.
/h3

so you can navigate to them but have no visual clue that they're 
anything other than text. Isn't that a 'more conventional' approach 
to these things?

-- 
Angus

Re: Lyx and spell check

[Henrik Edlund]

On Wed, 3 Mar 2004, Angus Leeming wrote:

AL Angus Leeming wrote:
AL
AL  Ronald Florence wrote:
AL 
AL  Angus Leeming wrote:
AL 
AL  Ronald, why is the LyX/Mac title on this page a hyperlink. It
AL  doesn't actually do anything: [...]
AL 
AL  Ditto for the section titles download, prerequisites, using
AL  LyX etc.
AL 
AL  Personally, I found 'em confusing so I'm interested in your
AL  rationale.
AL 
AL  If you go to the Table of Contents in the frame at the bottom of
AL  your browser screen, you can click on Screenshot, Download,
AL  Prerequisites,
AL  Using LyX, etc. to navigate on the page.  What is confusing about
AL  that?
AL 
AL  Ahhh. I hadn't registered that they were labels. I was just
AL  surprised that they turned red as my mouse went over them. Labels
AL  don't usually change colour like that...
AL
AL In fact, looking at the code on the LyX news page, I find that labels
AL such as these have zero size:
AL
AL a name=item3/a
AL h3
AL   span class=newsaux
AL New resource:
AL   /span
AL   LyX WikiWiki site relocated.
AL /h3
AL
AL so you can navigate to them but have no visual clue that they're
AL anything other than text. Isn't that a 'more conventional' approach
AL to these things?

The standard recommends (if not requires) that you put something inside
the anchor so that the target is identifiable in some way. Hence why it is
nice to put it around the h3 there so the headline becomes the
identification for the target.

It is rather evil CSS to do mouse-over colour changes on anchors. If this
is still what you want, then make it a class instead of a global setting.
Then use this class on all anchors you want mouse-over effects on.

smime.p7s
Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature

Re: Lyx and spell check

[Angus Leeming]

Ronald Florence wrote:

 Angus Leeming wrote:
 
 Ronald, why is the LyX/Mac title on this page a hyperlink. It
 doesn't actually do anything: [...]
 
 Ditto for the section titles download, prerequisites, using
 LyX etc.
 
 Personally, I found 'em confusing so I'm interested in your
 rationale.
 
 If you go to the Table of Contents in the frame at the bottom of
 your browser screen, you can click on Screenshot, Download,
 Prerequisites,
 Using LyX, etc. to navigate on the page.  What is confusing about
 that?

Ahhh. I hadn't registered that they were labels. I was just surprised 
that they turned red as my mouse went over them. Labels don't usually 
change colour like that...

-- 
Angus

Re: Lyx and spell check

[Ronald Florence]

Henrik Edlund wrote:

The standard recommends (if not requires) that you put something inside
the anchor so that the target is identifiable in some way. Hence why it is
nice to put it around the h3 there so the headline becomes the
identification for the target.
It is rather evil CSS to do mouse-over colour changes on anchors. If this
is still what you want, then make it a class instead of a global setting.
Then use this class on all anchors you want mouse-over effects on.
The only browsers I have available here (Safari  IE) do not do 
mouse-over color changes on those labels.  Could it be that some 
browsers are misbehaving on those pages?
--

Ronald Florencewww.18james.com

Re: Lyx and spell check

[Angus Leeming]

Ronald Florence wrote:
 The only browsers I have available here (Safari  IE) do not do
 mouse-over color changes on those labels.  Could it be that some
 browsers are misbehaving on those pages?

Konqueror 3.0.5 (as shipped with RedHat 8) shows this colour change.

Hmmm. Mozilla 1.0.2 does not.

Regards,
-- 
Angus

Re: Lyx and spell check

[Marc Jeffrey Driftmeyer]

Henrik is referring to this part of your style sheet:

a:link { text-decoration: none; color:blue; }
a:visited { text-decoration: none; color:green; }
a:hover { text-decoration: none; color:red; }

You made it a Global instead of a Local Variable and since the screenshot is 
wrapped inside an anchor tag the entire border changes color which I believe 
is how come he is calling it rather evil CSS.

I'm surprised he didn't complain about your use of frames and a form list just 
to target links within a single page thus effectively requiring a person to 
request state data for a document they already have stored in cache the first 
time they hit your site.

By the way the name tag has been deprecated in favor of id for anchor tags 
within a page so it won't validate against XHTML.

a id=spellChecker/a

target= has also been restructured with the advent of XHTML.

The most annoying use of javascript on this page has to be the following code:

script language=JavaScript
!-- 
if (window == top) top.location.href = lyx_on_aqua.html;
--
/script

Forcing one to have to see the split view of frames.

I'd put this on your page since you ask for suggestions:

?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8?
!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.1//EN
http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml11/DTD/xhtml11.dtd;
html xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml; xml:lang=en
head
meta http-equiv=Content-Type content=text/html; charset=utf-8 /
meta http-equiv=Content-Style-Type content=text/css /

Switch the Table code to DIVs and use CSS to duplicate the table layout 
without the recursive overhead of table drawing.

-Marc J. Driftmeyer




On Wednesday 03 March 2004 10:28 am, Ronald Florence wrote:
 Henrik Edlund wrote:
  The standard recommends (if not requires) that you put something inside
  the anchor so that the target is identifiable in some way. Hence why it
  is nice to put it around the h3 there so the headline becomes the
  identification for the target.
 
  It is rather evil CSS to do mouse-over colour changes on anchors. If this
  is still what you want, then make it a class instead of a global setting.
  Then use this class on all anchors you want mouse-over effects on.

 The only browsers I have available here (Safari  IE) do not do
 mouse-over color changes on those labels.  Could it be that some
 browsers are misbehaving on those pages?

Lyx and spell check

[Gennady Fiksel]

I wonder if you anyone help me with spelling in Lyx that I just 
recently installed on Max OS 10.2.3
I love the program a lot.
When tried to do spell check the same message appeared every time - 
Failed to start ispell. It happens even I change to aspell in 
Preferences. I have CocoAspell installed and it works for all other 
text editors including iTex and TexShop.
Thanks a lot in advance,


Gennady Fiksel
Associate Scientist
Department of Physics
University of Wisconsin - Madison   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
1150 University Avenue  tel. 608-263-5546
Madison, WI 53706   fax 608-262-7205
==

Re: Lyx and spell check

[Ronald Florence]

Gennady Fiksel wrote:

I wonder if you anyone help me with spelling in Lyx that I just recently 
installed on Max OS 10.2.3
I love the program a lot.
When tried to do spell check the same message appeared every time - 
Failed to start ispell. It happens even I change to aspell in 
Preferences. I have CocoAspell installed and it works for all other text 
editors including iTex and TexShop.
Configuring cocoAspell to work with LyX/Mac is covered in the LyX/Mac 
howto at http://www.18james.com/lyx_on_aqua.html.  Click on 
spell-checkers in the table of contents.
--

Ronald Florencewww.18james.com

Re: Lyx and spell check

[Aric Gregson]

On 3/3/04 9:23 Gennady Fiksel sent the following:

When tried to do spell check the same message appeared every time -
Failed to start ispell. It happens even I change to aspell in
Preferences. 
[...]

I am using aspell (without CocoAspell) with Lyx and don't have any
problems on 10.2.8. I did get errors until I successfully installed an
aspell dictionary; now it works beautifully. The directions were fairly
clear for the unix novice, but the dictionary directions leave out that
you must sudo make install, otherwise no installation will occur. 

good luck

aric

Re: Lyx and spell check

[Angus Leeming]

Ronald Florence wrote:
 Configuring cocoAspell to work with LyX/Mac is covered in the
 LyX/Mac
 howto at http://www.18james.com/lyx_on_aqua.html.  Click on
 spell-checkers in the table of contents.

Ronald, why is the LyX/Mac title on this page a hyperlink. It 
doesn't actually do anything:

a name=screenshot
h2 align=centerimg src=images/lyx.gif align=absmiddle 
alt=LyX/Mac/h2
/a

Ditto for the section titles download, prerequisites, using LyX 
etc.

Personally, I found 'em confusing so I'm interested in your rationale.

Regards,
-- 
Angus

Re: Lyx and spell check

[Ronald Florence]

Angus Leeming wrote:

Ronald, why is the LyX/Mac title on this page a hyperlink. It 
doesn't actually do anything: [...]

Ditto for the section titles download, prerequisites, using LyX 
etc.

Personally, I found 'em confusing so I'm interested in your rationale.
If you go to the Table of Contents in the frame at the bottom of your 
browser screen, you can click on Screenshot, Download, Prerequisites, 
Using LyX, etc. to navigate on the page.  What is confusing about that?
--

Ronald Florencewww.18james.com

Re: Lyx and spell check

[Angus Leeming]

Angus Leeming wrote:

 Ronald Florence wrote:
 
 Angus Leeming wrote:
 
 Ronald, why is the LyX/Mac title on this page a hyperlink. It
 doesn't actually do anything: [...]
 
 Ditto for the section titles download, prerequisites, using
 LyX etc.
 
 Personally, I found 'em confusing so I'm interested in your
 rationale.
 
 If you go to the Table of Contents in the frame at the bottom of
 your browser screen, you can click on Screenshot, Download,
 Prerequisites,
 Using LyX, etc. to navigate on the page.  What is confusing about
 that?
 
 Ahhh. I hadn't registered that they were labels. I was just
 surprised that they turned red as my mouse went over them. Labels
 don't usually change colour like that...

In fact, looking at the code on the LyX news page, I find that labels 
such as these have zero size:

a name=item3/a
h3
  span class=newsaux
New resource:
  /span 
  LyX WikiWiki site relocated.
/h3

so you can navigate to them but have no visual clue that they're 
anything other than text. Isn't that a 'more conventional' approach 
to these things?

-- 
Angus

Re: Lyx and spell check

[Henrik Edlund]

On Wed, 3 Mar 2004, Angus Leeming wrote:

AL Angus Leeming wrote:
AL
AL  Ronald Florence wrote:
AL 
AL  Angus Leeming wrote:
AL 
AL  Ronald, why is the LyX/Mac title on this page a hyperlink. It
AL  doesn't actually do anything: [...]
AL 
AL  Ditto for the section titles download, prerequisites, using
AL  LyX etc.
AL 
AL  Personally, I found 'em confusing so I'm interested in your
AL  rationale.
AL 
AL  If you go to the Table of Contents in the frame at the bottom of
AL  your browser screen, you can click on Screenshot, Download,
AL  Prerequisites,
AL  Using LyX, etc. to navigate on the page.  What is confusing about
AL  that?
AL 
AL  Ahhh. I hadn't registered that they were labels. I was just
AL  surprised that they turned red as my mouse went over them. Labels
AL  don't usually change colour like that...
AL
AL In fact, looking at the code on the LyX news page, I find that labels
AL such as these have zero size:
AL
AL a name=item3/a
AL h3
AL   span class=newsaux
AL New resource:
AL   /span
AL   LyX WikiWiki site relocated.
AL /h3
AL
AL so you can navigate to them but have no visual clue that they're
AL anything other than text. Isn't that a 'more conventional' approach
AL to these things?

The standard recommends (if not requires) that you put something inside
the anchor so that the target is identifiable in some way. Hence why it is
nice to put it around the h3 there so the headline becomes the
identification for the target.

It is rather evil CSS to do mouse-over colour changes on anchors. If this
is still what you want, then make it a class instead of a global setting.
Then use this class on all anchors you want mouse-over effects on.

smime.p7s
Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature

Re: Lyx and spell check

[Angus Leeming]

Ronald Florence wrote:

 Angus Leeming wrote:
 
 Ronald, why is the LyX/Mac title on this page a hyperlink. It
 doesn't actually do anything: [...]
 
 Ditto for the section titles download, prerequisites, using
 LyX etc.
 
 Personally, I found 'em confusing so I'm interested in your
 rationale.
 
 If you go to the Table of Contents in the frame at the bottom of
 your browser screen, you can click on Screenshot, Download,
 Prerequisites,
 Using LyX, etc. to navigate on the page.  What is confusing about
 that?

Ahhh. I hadn't registered that they were labels. I was just surprised 
that they turned red as my mouse went over them. Labels don't usually 
change colour like that...

-- 
Angus

Re: Lyx and spell check

[Ronald Florence]

Henrik Edlund wrote:

The standard recommends (if not requires) that you put something inside
the anchor so that the target is identifiable in some way. Hence why it is
nice to put it around the h3 there so the headline becomes the
identification for the target.
It is rather evil CSS to do mouse-over colour changes on anchors. If this
is still what you want, then make it a class instead of a global setting.
Then use this class on all anchors you want mouse-over effects on.
The only browsers I have available here (Safari  IE) do not do 
mouse-over color changes on those labels.  Could it be that some 
browsers are misbehaving on those pages?
--

Ronald Florencewww.18james.com

Re: Lyx and spell check

[Angus Leeming]

Ronald Florence wrote:
 The only browsers I have available here (Safari  IE) do not do
 mouse-over color changes on those labels.  Could it be that some
 browsers are misbehaving on those pages?

Konqueror 3.0.5 (as shipped with RedHat 8) shows this colour change.

Hmmm. Mozilla 1.0.2 does not.

Regards,
-- 
Angus

Re: Lyx and spell check

[Marc Jeffrey Driftmeyer]

Henrik is referring to this part of your style sheet:

a:link { text-decoration: none; color:blue; }
a:visited { text-decoration: none; color:green; }
a:hover { text-decoration: none; color:red; }

You made it a Global instead of a Local Variable and since the screenshot is 
wrapped inside an anchor tag the entire border changes color which I believe 
is how come he is calling it rather evil CSS.

I'm surprised he didn't complain about your use of frames and a form list just 
to target links within a single page thus effectively requiring a person to 
request state data for a document they already have stored in cache the first 
time they hit your site.

By the way the name tag has been deprecated in favor of id for anchor tags 
within a page so it won't validate against XHTML.

a id=spellChecker/a

target= has also been restructured with the advent of XHTML.

The most annoying use of javascript on this page has to be the following code:

script language=JavaScript
!-- 
if (window == top) top.location.href = lyx_on_aqua.html;
--
/script

Forcing one to have to see the split view of frames.

I'd put this on your page since you ask for suggestions:

?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8?
!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.1//EN
http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml11/DTD/xhtml11.dtd;
html xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml; xml:lang=en
head
meta http-equiv=Content-Type content=text/html; charset=utf-8 /
meta http-equiv=Content-Style-Type content=text/css /

Switch the Table code to DIVs and use CSS to duplicate the table layout 
without the recursive overhead of table drawing.

-Marc J. Driftmeyer




On Wednesday 03 March 2004 10:28 am, Ronald Florence wrote:
 Henrik Edlund wrote:
  The standard recommends (if not requires) that you put something inside
  the anchor so that the target is identifiable in some way. Hence why it
  is nice to put it around the h3 there so the headline becomes the
  identification for the target.
 
  It is rather evil CSS to do mouse-over colour changes on anchors. If this
  is still what you want, then make it a class instead of a global setting.
  Then use this class on all anchors you want mouse-over effects on.

 The only browsers I have available here (Safari  IE) do not do
 mouse-over color changes on those labels.  Could it be that some
 browsers are misbehaving on those pages?

Lyx and spell check

[Gennady Fiksel]

I wonder if you anyone help me with spelling in Lyx that I just 
recently installed on Max OS 10.2.3
I love the program a lot.
When tried to do spell check the same message appeared every time - 
Failed to start ispell. It happens even I change to aspell in 
Preferences. I have CocoAspell installed and it works for all other 
text editors including iTex and TexShop.
Thanks a lot in advance,


Gennady Fiksel
Associate Scientist
Department of Physics
University of Wisconsin - Madison   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
1150 University Avenue  tel. 608-263-5546
Madison, WI 53706   fax 608-262-7205
==

Re: Lyx and spell check

[Ronald Florence]

Gennady Fiksel wrote:

I wonder if you anyone help me with spelling in Lyx that I just recently 
installed on Max OS 10.2.3
I love the program a lot.
When tried to do spell check the same message appeared every time - 
Failed to start ispell. It happens even I change to aspell in 
Preferences. I have CocoAspell installed and it works for all other text 
editors including iTex and TexShop.
Configuring cocoAspell to work with LyX/Mac is covered in the LyX/Mac 
howto at .  Click on 
spell-checkers in the table of contents.
--

Ronald Florencewww.18james.com

Re: Lyx and spell check

[Aric Gregson]

On 3/3/04 9:23 Gennady Fiksel sent the following:

>When tried to do spell check the same message appeared every time -
>Failed to start ispell. It happens even I change to aspell in
>Preferences. 
[...]

I am using aspell (without CocoAspell) with Lyx and don't have any
problems on 10.2.8. I did get errors until I successfully installed an
aspell dictionary; now it works beautifully. The directions were fairly
clear for the unix novice, but the dictionary directions leave out that
you must sudo make install, otherwise no installation will occur. 

good luck

aric

Re: Lyx and spell check

[Angus Leeming]

Ronald Florence wrote:
> Configuring cocoAspell to work with LyX/Mac is covered in the
> LyX/Mac
> howto at .  Click on
> spell-checkers in the table of contents.

Ronald, why is the "LyX/Mac" title on this page a hyperlink. It 
doesn't actually do anything:


/Mac


Ditto for the section titles "download", "prerequisites", "using LyX" 
etc.

Personally, I found 'em confusing so I'm interested in your rationale.

Regards,
-- 
Angus

Re: Lyx and spell check

[Ronald Florence]

Angus Leeming wrote:

Ronald, why is the "LyX/Mac" title on this page a hyperlink. It 
doesn't actually do anything: [...]

Ditto for the section titles "download", "prerequisites", "using LyX" 
etc.

Personally, I found 'em confusing so I'm interested in your rationale.
If you go to the Table of Contents in the frame at the bottom of your 
browser screen, you can click on Screenshot, Download, Prerequisites, 
Using LyX, etc. to navigate on the page.  What is confusing about that?
--

Ronald Florencewww.18james.com

Re: Lyx and spell check

[Angus Leeming]

Angus Leeming wrote:

> Ronald Florence wrote:
> 
>> Angus Leeming wrote:
>> 
>>> Ronald, why is the "LyX/Mac" title on this page a hyperlink. It
>>> doesn't actually do anything: [...]
>>> 
>>> Ditto for the section titles "download", "prerequisites", "using
>>> LyX" etc.
>>> 
>>> Personally, I found 'em confusing so I'm interested in your
>>> rationale.
>> 
>> If you go to the Table of Contents in the frame at the bottom of
>> your browser screen, you can click on Screenshot, Download,
>> Prerequisites,
>> Using LyX, etc. to navigate on the page.  What is confusing about
>> that?
> 
> Ahhh. I hadn't registered that they were labels. I was just
> surprised that they turned red as my mouse went over them. Labels
> don't usually change colour like that...

In fact, looking at the code on the LyX news page, I find that labels 
such as these have zero size:



  
New resource:
   
  LyX WikiWiki site relocated.


so you can navigate to them but have no visual clue that they're 
anything other than text. Isn't that a 'more conventional' approach 
to these things?

-- 
Angus

Re: Lyx and spell check

[Henrik Edlund]

On Wed, 3 Mar 2004, Angus Leeming wrote:

AL> Angus Leeming wrote:
AL>
AL> > Ronald Florence wrote:
AL> >
AL> >> Angus Leeming wrote:
AL> >>
AL> >>> Ronald, why is the "LyX/Mac" title on this page a hyperlink. It
AL> >>> doesn't actually do anything: [...]
AL> >>>
AL> >>> Ditto for the section titles "download", "prerequisites", "using
AL> >>> LyX" etc.
AL> >>>
AL> >>> Personally, I found 'em confusing so I'm interested in your
AL> >>> rationale.
AL> >>
AL> >> If you go to the Table of Contents in the frame at the bottom of
AL> >> your browser screen, you can click on Screenshot, Download,
AL> >> Prerequisites,
AL> >> Using LyX, etc. to navigate on the page.  What is confusing about
AL> >> that?
AL> >
AL> > Ahhh. I hadn't registered that they were labels. I was just
AL> > surprised that they turned red as my mouse went over them. Labels
AL> > don't usually change colour like that...
AL>
AL> In fact, looking at the code on the LyX news page, I find that labels
AL> such as these have zero size:
AL>
AL> 
AL> 
AL>   
AL> New resource:
AL>   
AL>   LyX WikiWiki site relocated.
AL> 
AL>
AL> so you can navigate to them but have no visual clue that they're
AL> anything other than text. Isn't that a 'more conventional' approach
AL> to these things?

The standard recommends (if not requires) that you put something inside
the anchor so that the target is identifiable in some way. Hence why it is
nice to put it around the  there so the headline becomes the
identification for the target.

It is rather evil CSS to do mouse-over colour changes on anchors. If this
is still what you want, then make it a class instead of a global setting.
Then use this class on all anchors you want mouse-over effects on.

smime.p7s
Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature

Re: Lyx and spell check

[Angus Leeming]

Ronald Florence wrote:

> Angus Leeming wrote:
> 
>> Ronald, why is the "LyX/Mac" title on this page a hyperlink. It
>> doesn't actually do anything: [...]
>> 
>> Ditto for the section titles "download", "prerequisites", "using
>> LyX" etc.
>> 
>> Personally, I found 'em confusing so I'm interested in your
>> rationale.
> 
> If you go to the Table of Contents in the frame at the bottom of
> your browser screen, you can click on Screenshot, Download,
> Prerequisites,
> Using LyX, etc. to navigate on the page.  What is confusing about
> that?

Ahhh. I hadn't registered that they were labels. I was just surprised 
that they turned red as my mouse went over them. Labels don't usually 
change colour like that...

-- 
Angus

Re: Lyx and spell check

[Ronald Florence]

Henrik Edlund wrote:

The standard recommends (if not requires) that you put something inside
the anchor so that the target is identifiable in some way. Hence why it is
nice to put it around the  there so the headline becomes the
identification for the target.
It is rather evil CSS to do mouse-over colour changes on anchors. If this
is still what you want, then make it a class instead of a global setting.
Then use this class on all anchors you want mouse-over effects on.
The only browsers I have available here (Safari & IE) do not do 
mouse-over color changes on those labels.  Could it be that some 
browsers are misbehaving on those pages?
--

Ronald Florencewww.18james.com

Re: Lyx and spell check

[Angus Leeming]

Ronald Florence wrote:
> The only browsers I have available here (Safari & IE) do not do
> mouse-over color changes on those labels.  Could it be that some
> browsers are misbehaving on those pages?

Konqueror 3.0.5 (as shipped with RedHat 8) shows this colour change.

Hmmm. Mozilla 1.0.2 does not.

Regards,
-- 
Angus

Re: Lyx and spell check

[Marc Jeffrey Driftmeyer]

Henrik is referring to this part of your style sheet:

a:link { text-decoration: none; color:blue; }
a:visited { text-decoration: none; color:green; }
a:hover { text-decoration: none; color:red; }

You made it a Global instead of a Local Variable and since the screenshot is 
wrapped inside an anchor tag the entire border changes color which I believe 
is how come he is calling it "rather evil CSS."

I'm surprised he didn't complain about your use of frames and a form list just 
to target links within a single page thus effectively requiring a person to 
request state data for a document they already have stored in cache the first 
time they hit your site.

By the way the "name" tag has been deprecated in favor of "id" for anchor tags 
within a page so it won't validate against XHTML.



target= has also been restructured with the advent of XHTML.

The most annoying use of javascript on this page has to be the following code:





Forcing one to have to see the split view of frames.

I'd put this on your page since you ask for suggestions:


http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml11/DTD/xhtml11.dtd;>
http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml; xml:lang="en">




Switch the Table code to DIVs and use CSS to duplicate the table layout 
without the recursive overhead of table drawing.

-Marc J. Driftmeyer




On Wednesday 03 March 2004 10:28 am, Ronald Florence wrote:
> Henrik Edlund wrote:
> > The standard recommends (if not requires) that you put something inside
> > the anchor so that the target is identifiable in some way. Hence why it
> > is nice to put it around the  there so the headline becomes the
> > identification for the target.
> >
> > It is rather evil CSS to do mouse-over colour changes on anchors. If this
> > is still what you want, then make it a class instead of a global setting.
> > Then use this class on all anchors you want mouse-over effects on.
>
> The only browsers I have available here (Safari & IE) do not do
> mouse-over color changes on those labels.  Could it be that some
> browsers are misbehaving on those pages?