Re: Pagination in book class
Rich Shepard wrote: [snip] If the book (or memoir) class had a style "Copyright" as does the Koma-Script book format, I would not be asking all these questions. Unfortunately, use of the latter class produces its own unintended consequences for me writing in the U.S. If I was really clever and knew LaTeX and LyX _very_ well, I could probably take the "Copyright" style from Koma-Script and add it to "book". Unfortunately, I'm not that clever with these applications. Nor can I find a LyX-class-writing-HOWTO. Help->Customisation has a section "Decalring a new text class" which is a good place to start. Basically you start by importing the main class you want to use, and add any new paragraph environments you want, or alter existing ones. So you could either start with the Book class and add aCopyright environment, or start with Book (Koma-script) and edit it to make it behave more like Book. Robin -- "I can say: 'Thank these bees for their honey as though they were kind people who have prepared it for you'; that is intelligible and describes how I should like you to conduct yourself. But I cannot say: 'Thank them because, look, how kind they are!'--since the next moment they may sting you. - Wittgenstein Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Univeritesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin
Re: Pagination in book class
Rich Shepard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > If the book (or memoir) class had a style "Copyright" as does the > Koma-Script book format, I would not be asking all these questions. [...] > Would you like to help me add this feature to the book class? I'm always > happy to learn more. Sounds like your publisher requires something special. I've written four books with LyX, all published by trade or university presses (Random House, HarperCollins, St. Martins Press, and University of Wisconsin Press, the latter scheduled in 2005), and never had to sweat a "copyright page." If you want the copyright information on a separate page, try a new page in \frontmatter, add some space at the top, and then © 2003 Rich Shepard -- Ronald Florence www.18james.com
Re: Pagination in book class
Rich Shepard wrote: > However, with no format codes in the book (and memoir) class I get the > copyright page information either on the bottom of the title page or on the > top of the ToC page. As neither is appropriate I'm trying to learn how to > set that page apart, but retain the proper pagination. Rich, If you send me a small example file (privately, if you like), I can show you a solution (memoir or standard book). Regards, Juergen.
Re: Pagination in book class
On Sat, 20 Sep 2003, Ronald Florence wrote: > Try the \frontmatter, \mainmatter, and \endmatter ERT insertions to > get lowercase roman and arabic page numbering where you want them. Ronald, I have tried the above with no success. Perhaps not in the correct places in my text. > If you manually encode every detail of the formatting -- as you seem > to be doing above and in your other recent queries -- you turn LyX and > LaTeX into the equivalent of a PC word-processor. LyX is cumbersome > used that way, and it really takes takes the joy out of the whole > WYSIWYM concept behind LyX. I have no desire to manually encode anything. That's why I use LyX for all my writing that does not need to be shared as a winWord doc with regulators or clients. One of the reasons that I adopted LyX several years ago after attempting to learn LaTeX was that with the latter I had to learn every aspect of formatting -- and memorize/type the codes, too. LyX hides those details from me. However, with no format codes in the book (and memoir) class I get the copyright page information either on the bottom of the title page or on the top of the ToC page. As neither is appropriate I'm trying to learn how to set that page apart, but retain the proper pagination. If the book (or memoir) class had a style "Copyright" as does the Koma-Script book format, I would not be asking all these questions. Unfortunately, use of the latter class produces its own unintended consequences for me writing in the U.S. If I was really clever and knew LaTeX and LyX _very_ well, I could probably take the "Copyright" style from Koma-Script and add it to "book". Unfortunately, I'm not that clever with these applications. Nor can I find a LyX-class-writing-HOWTO. Would you like to help me add this feature to the book class? I'm always happy to learn more. Thanks, Rich Dr. Richard B. Shepard, President Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc. (TM) 2404 SW 22nd Street | Troutdale, OR 97060-1247 | U.S.A. + 1 503-667-4517 (voice) | + 1 503-667-8863 (fax) | rshepard@appl-ecosys.com http://www.appl-ecosys.com/
Re: Pagination in book class
Rich Shepard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> \pagestyle{empty}
> \clearpage
> %% Contents of copyright page
> \clearpage
> \pagenumbering{roman}
> \setcounter{page}{1}
> %% Table of Contents -- done by LyX
> Preface %% Un-numbered chapter
> %% preface contents
> \pagenumbering{arabic}
> Introduction %% Part # -- done by LyX
> Background %% Chapter 1 -- done by LyX
[...]
> The page reading, "Part 1 Introduction", is numbered, 1. There is a blank
> page and the next recto page is "Chapter 1 Background" with a page number
> of 3.
>
> This is not what I want; at least, I don't think that's what I want.
Try the \frontmatter, \mainmatter, and \endmatter ERT insertions to
get lowercase roman and arabic page numbering where you want them.
If you manually encode every detail of the formatting -- as you seem
to be doing above and in your other recent queries -- you turn LyX and
LaTeX into the equivalent of a PC word-processor. LyX is cumbersome
used that way, and it really takes takes the joy out of the whole
WYSIWYM concept behind LyX.
--
Ronald Florence www.18james.com
Pagination in book class
I've gone back to the 'book' class from the 'memoir' class because I
cannot clear a page number from the title page on the latter. Doesn't matter
to me which class definition I use as long as I understand how to remove the
little glitches. Which brings me to the reason for this message.
Immediately after my name (as author), I have this:
\pagestyle{empty}
\clearpage
%% Contents of copyright page
\clearpage
\pagenumbering{roman}
\setcounter{page}{1}
%% Table of Contents -- done by LyX
Preface %% Un-numbered chapter
%% preface contents
\pagenumbering{arabic}
Introduction %% Part # -- done by LyX
Background %% Chapter 1 -- done by LyX
When I view the dvi output, I see that the first page of the ToC is
marked, i, but the second page has no page number. The Preface page is
numbered, iii.
The page reading, "Part 1 Introduction", is numbered, 1. There is a blank
page and the next recto page is "Chapter 1 Background" with a page number
of 3.
This is not what I want; at least, I don't think that's what I want. I
thought that the second page of the ToC should be numbered "ii", the "Part"
page should have no number, and the first page of "Chapter 1" should be
numbered "1".
I tried '\setcounter{page}{1}' just before the chapter title, and that
does reset the page number to 1. However, the "Part " page is still marked
with a "1".
Thanks for helping me to learn.
Rich
Dr. Richard B. Shepard, President
Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc. (TM)
2404 SW 22nd Street | Troutdale, OR 97060-1247 | U.S.A.
+ 1 503-667-4517 (voice) | + 1 503-667-8863 (fax) | rshepard@appl-ecosys.com
http://www.appl-ecosys.com/
