Re: grammar check

[Saša Janiška]

On Wed, 24 Apr 2024 10:16:37 +
Bernt Lie via lyx-users  wrote:

> Not a perfect solution...

> I copied text from LyX into Microsoft Edge co-pilot following

[...]

> -- I then copied the corrected text from MS Edge back into LyX.

OK, that's similar to using LanguageTool/Andtidote or some other
grammar checker via web...

It would be nice to have something more integrated with LyX!


Sincerely,
Saša

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Re: grammar check

[Saša Janiška]

On Wed, 24 Apr 2024 18:56:43 -0400
Steve Litt  wrote:

> Does LyX have a Markdown export? Is it any better than LyX' HTML
> export?

I'm told about this: https://wiki.lyx.org/Tips/ConvertMarkdown


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Re: grammar check

[Steve Litt]

Saša Janiška said on Wed, 24 Apr 2024 11:24:03 +0200

>Hello,
>
>I've decided to do my note-taking (Zettelkasten) by just using pen &
>paper and when I want to produce some context I'll just use LyX -
>exporting to markdown when I want something for the web 

Does LyX have a Markdown export? Is it any better than LyX' HTML export?

Thanks,

SteveT

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RE: grammar check

[Bernt Lie via lyx-users]

(The procedure worked, even though I see that I misspelled "grammar"...)

-Original Message-
From: lyx-users  On Behalf Of Bernt Lie via 
lyx-users
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2024 12:17 PM
To: Saša Janiška ; lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Subject: RE: grammar check

Not a perfect solution...

I copied text from LyX into Microsoft Edge co-pilot following 
(https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/bing/do-more-with-ai/how-to-check-your-grammar-using-bing-chat?form=MA13KP).

I used command: "Can you check this text for spelling errors and grammer 
errors?", and passed in the text to check *after* a line break (Ctrl+Enter, I 
think), and then clicked on the start button.

The results seems to be quite good, although it "fixed" a handful of errors 
that were not really errors, but rather words that co-pilot didn't know (some 
technical words from dna analysis). 
--
I then copied the corrected text from MS Edge back into LyX.

The "downside" of this procedure is that some structure was lost in the copying 
back-and-forth process (a slash "/", some bullet symbols in lists, etc.). 

-B

-Original Message-
From: lyx-users  On Behalf Of Saša Janiška
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2024 11:24 AM
To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Subject: grammar check

Hello,

I've decided to do my note-taking (Zettelkasten) by just using pen & paper and 
when I want to produce some context I'll just use LyX - exporting to markdown 
when I want something for the web (using Tiki
CMS) or LyX/LaTeX for writing articles (pdfs), slide-presentations, books…

However, being non-native speaker/writer I do find useful to use some grammar 
checkers.

To support LanguageTool I've subscribed to Premium version, but found out that 
despite being open-source etc. it has its limitations (see e.g. 
https://github.com/valentjn/ltex-ls/issues/215).

Otoh, I've a licence for proprietary Antidote
(https://www.druide.com/en) which can check text provided as e.g.
markdown, LaTeX...

Now I wonder if you have any suggestion how to review lyx-gc to either support 
newer versions of LanguageTool or to use Antidote's ability to grammar-check 
LaTeX markup considering that lyx-gc was using chktex to do the task.

Any other suggestion how to add grammar-check feature to LyX?


Sincerely,
Saša

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RE: grammar check

[Bernt Lie via lyx-users]

Not a perfect solution...

I copied text from LyX into Microsoft Edge co-pilot following 
(https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/bing/do-more-with-ai/how-to-check-your-grammar-using-bing-chat?form=MA13KP).

I used command: "Can you check this text for spelling errors and grammer 
errors?", and passed in the text to check *after* a line break (Ctrl+Enter, I 
think), and then clicked on the start button.

The results seems to be quite good, although it "fixed" a handful of errors 
that were not really errors, but rather words that co-pilot didn't know (some 
technical words from dna analysis). 
--
I then copied the corrected text from MS Edge back into LyX.

The "downside" of this procedure is that some structure was lost in the copying 
back-and-forth process (a slash "/", some bullet symbols in lists, etc.). 

-B

-Original Message-
From: lyx-users  On Behalf Of Saša Janiška
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2024 11:24 AM
To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Subject: grammar check

Hello,

I've decided to do my note-taking (Zettelkasten) by just using pen & paper and 
when I want to produce some context I'll just use LyX - exporting to markdown 
when I want something for the web (using Tiki
CMS) or LyX/LaTeX for writing articles (pdfs), slide-presentations, books…

However, being non-native speaker/writer I do find useful to use some grammar 
checkers.

To support LanguageTool I've subscribed to Premium version, but found out that 
despite being open-source etc. it has its limitations (see e.g. 
https://github.com/valentjn/ltex-ls/issues/215).

Otoh, I've a licence for proprietary Antidote
(https://www.druide.com/en) which can check text provided as e.g.
markdown, LaTeX...

Now I wonder if you have any suggestion how to review lyx-gc to either support 
newer versions of LanguageTool or to use Antidote's ability to grammar-check 
LaTeX markup considering that lyx-gc was using chktex to do the task.

Any other suggestion how to add grammar-check feature to LyX?


Sincerely,
Saša

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person is not bewildered by such a change.


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Re: grammar check?

[Jose Quesada]

I'm definitely interested in this. If someone will be adding this
functionalty, I'll happily help debugging it.
Best,
-Jose

Jose Quesada, PhD.
Max Planck Institute,
Center for Adaptive Behavior and Cognition,
Berlin
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http://twitter.com/Quesada


2010/4/17 Marcelo Acuña mv...@yahoo.com.ar

   It is in schedule a grammar check in future versions
  of lyx?

  No. If there is a good open source one, it could perhaps be
  linked into
  LyX, if someone wanted to do that work.
 
  Richard
  Open Office has one, although with a poor implementation of the Spanish.

 Marcelo

Re: grammar check?

[Jose Quesada]

I'm definitely interested in this. If someone will be adding this
functionalty, I'll happily help debugging it.
Best,
-Jose

Jose Quesada, PhD.
Max Planck Institute,
Center for Adaptive Behavior and Cognition,
Berlin
http://www.josequesada.name/
http://twitter.com/Quesada


2010/4/17 Marcelo Acuña mv...@yahoo.com.ar

   It is in schedule a grammar check in future versions
  of lyx?

  No. If there is a good open source one, it could perhaps be
  linked into
  LyX, if someone wanted to do that work.
 
  Richard
  Open Office has one, although with a poor implementation of the Spanish.

 Marcelo

Re: grammar check?

[Jose Quesada]

I'm definitely interested in this. If someone will be adding this
functionalty, I'll happily help debugging it.
Best,
-Jose

Jose Quesada, PhD.
Max Planck Institute,
Center for Adaptive Behavior and Cognition,
Berlin
http://www.josequesada.name/
http://twitter.com/Quesada


2010/4/17 Marcelo Acuña 

> > > It is in schedule a grammar check in future versions
> > of lyx?
>
> > No. If there is a good open source one, it could perhaps be
> > linked into
> > LyX, if someone wanted to do that work.
> >
> > Richard
>  Open Office has one, although with a poor implementation of the Spanish.
>
> Marcelo
>
>
>
>

Re: grammar check?

[rgheck]

On 04/17/2010 11:44 AM, Marcelo Acuña wrote:

It is in schedule a grammar check in future versions of lyx?

   
No. If there is a good open source one, it could perhaps be linked into 
LyX, if someone wanted to do that work.


Richard

Re: grammar check?

[Marcelo Acuña]

  It is in schedule a grammar check in future versions
 of lyx?

 No. If there is a good open source one, it could perhaps be
 linked into 
 LyX, if someone wanted to do that work.
 
 Richard
 Open Office has one, although with a poor implementation of the Spanish.

Marcelo 

Re: grammar check?

[rgheck]

On 04/17/2010 11:44 AM, Marcelo Acuña wrote:

It is in schedule a grammar check in future versions of lyx?

   
No. If there is a good open source one, it could perhaps be linked into 
LyX, if someone wanted to do that work.


Richard

Re: grammar check?

[Marcelo Acuña]

  It is in schedule a grammar check in future versions
 of lyx?

 No. If there is a good open source one, it could perhaps be
 linked into 
 LyX, if someone wanted to do that work.
 
 Richard
 Open Office has one, although with a poor implementation of the Spanish.

Marcelo 

Re: grammar check?

[rgheck]

On 04/17/2010 11:44 AM, Marcelo Acuña wrote:

It is in schedule a grammar check in future versions of lyx?

   
No. If there is a good open source one, it could perhaps be linked into 
LyX, if someone wanted to do that work.


Richard

Re: grammar check?

[Marcelo Acuña]

> > It is in schedule a grammar check in future versions
> of lyx?

> No. If there is a good open source one, it could perhaps be
> linked into 
> LyX, if someone wanted to do that work.
> 
> Richard
 Open Office has one, although with a poor implementation of the Spanish.

Marcelo 

Re: Grammar check?

[Paul]

Roy Schestowitz wrote:
 Me too. Here is the direct link:
 
 * http://bobo.link.cs.cmu.edu/link/
 
 Note  that  it only handles English at the moment, but I am sure that,  in
 due  time, somebody will extend it. For Latin languages, it is primarily a
 vocabulary  barrier. Such a feature can definitely elevate LyX well  above
 Kile and others.

I was looking into this a few days ago and here's some other links that
might be useful:

Queequeg, A Tiny English Grammar Checker
http://queequeg.sourceforge.net/index-e.html
Queequeg is a tiny English grammar checker for non-native speakers who
are not used to verb conjugation and number agreement. We especially
focus on people who're writing academic papers or business documents
where thorough checking is required. We aim to reduce this laborious
work with automated checking. Queequeg is named after a character in
Herman Melville's masterpiece.

Style and Diction
http://www.gnu.org/software/diction/diction.html
Diction and style are two old standard UNIX commands. Diction identifies
wordy and commonly misused phrases. Style analyses surface
characteristics of a document, including sentence length and other
readability measures.

Paul.

Re: Grammar check?

[Paul]

Roy Schestowitz wrote:
 Me too. Here is the direct link:
 
 * http://bobo.link.cs.cmu.edu/link/
 
 Note  that  it only handles English at the moment, but I am sure that,  in
 due  time, somebody will extend it. For Latin languages, it is primarily a
 vocabulary  barrier. Such a feature can definitely elevate LyX well  above
 Kile and others.

I was looking into this a few days ago and here's some other links that
might be useful:

Queequeg, A Tiny English Grammar Checker
http://queequeg.sourceforge.net/index-e.html
Queequeg is a tiny English grammar checker for non-native speakers who
are not used to verb conjugation and number agreement. We especially
focus on people who're writing academic papers or business documents
where thorough checking is required. We aim to reduce this laborious
work with automated checking. Queequeg is named after a character in
Herman Melville's masterpiece.

Style and Diction
http://www.gnu.org/software/diction/diction.html
Diction and style are two old standard UNIX commands. Diction identifies
wordy and commonly misused phrases. Style analyses surface
characteristics of a document, including sentence length and other
readability measures.

Paul.

Re: Grammar check?

[Paul]

Roy Schestowitz wrote:
> Me too. Here is the direct link:
> 
> * http://bobo.link.cs.cmu.edu/link/
> 
> Note  that  it only handles English at the moment, but I am sure that,  in
> due  time, somebody will extend it. For Latin languages, it is primarily a
> vocabulary  barrier. Such a feature can definitely elevate LyX well  above
> Kile and others.

I was looking into this a few days ago and here's some other links that
might be useful:

Queequeg, A Tiny English Grammar Checker
http://queequeg.sourceforge.net/index-e.html
Queequeg is a tiny English grammar checker for non-native speakers who
are not used to verb conjugation and number agreement. We especially
focus on people who're writing academic papers or business documents
where thorough checking is required. We aim to reduce this laborious
work with automated checking. Queequeg is named after a character in
Herman Melville's masterpiece.

Style and Diction
http://www.gnu.org/software/diction/diction.html
Diction and style are two old standard UNIX commands. Diction identifies
wordy and commonly misused phrases. Style analyses surface
characteristics of a document, including sentence length and other
readability measures.

Paul.

Re: Grammar check?

[Roy Schestowitz]

_/ On Sun 23 Oct 2005 01:34:07 BST, [Myriam Abramson] wrote : \_


I've read on /. that Abiword has some grammar check capability.
http://tinyurl.com/92o5p



Yes, when read that I immediately downloaded Abiword to see for myself how
well  it truly was. Abiword, which unlike other projects does not have li-
cence-related restrictions, could make use of this Open project, which can
possibly be 'plugged' into LyX some time in the future... or so I hope.



What about Lyx? That feature would be extremely useful to me.



Me too. Here is the direct link:

* http://bobo.link.cs.cmu.edu/link/

Note  that  it only handles English at the moment, but I am sure that,  in
due  time, somebody will extend it. For Latin languages, it is primarily a
vocabulary  barrier. Such a feature can definitely elevate LyX well  above
Kile and others.

Roy

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Re: Grammar check?

[Roy Schestowitz]

_/ On Sun 23 Oct 2005 01:34:07 BST, [Myriam Abramson] wrote : \_


I've read on /. that Abiword has some grammar check capability.
http://tinyurl.com/92o5p



Yes, when read that I immediately downloaded Abiword to see for myself how
well  it truly was. Abiword, which unlike other projects does not have li-
cence-related restrictions, could make use of this Open project, which can
possibly be 'plugged' into LyX some time in the future... or so I hope.



What about Lyx? That feature would be extremely useful to me.



Me too. Here is the direct link:

* http://bobo.link.cs.cmu.edu/link/

Note  that  it only handles English at the moment, but I am sure that,  in
due  time, somebody will extend it. For Latin languages, it is primarily a
vocabulary  barrier. Such a feature can definitely elevate LyX well  above
Kile and others.

Roy

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Re: Grammar check?

[Roy Schestowitz]

_/ On Sun 23 Oct 2005 01:34:07 BST, [Myriam Abramson] wrote : \_


I've read on /. that Abiword has some grammar check capability.
http://tinyurl.com/92o5p



Yes, when read that I immediately downloaded Abiword to see for myself how
well  it truly was. Abiword, which unlike other projects does not have li-
cence-related restrictions, could make use of this Open project, which can
possibly be 'plugged' into LyX some time in the future... or so I hope.



What about Lyx? That feature would be extremely useful to me.



Me too. Here is the direct link:

* http://bobo.link.cs.cmu.edu/link/

Note  that  it only handles English at the moment, but I am sure that,  in
due  time, somebody will extend it. For Latin languages, it is primarily a
vocabulary  barrier. Such a feature can definitely elevate LyX well  above
Kile and others.

Roy

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