Re: Alt/Meta again

2005-01-14 Thread Rich Shepard 
On Fri, 14 Jan 2005, Chris Menzel wrote:

 This seems to be LyX-specific. LeftAlt works fine as Meta under emacs and
 xemacs out of the box. But under LyX it works as I believe it is designed
 to by default, viz., like an Alt key, i.e., Alt-f brings up the File menu,
 Alt-d the Document menu, etc. The most I've been able to do using xmodmap
 is simply to deactivate Alt alt-ogether. :-)

Chris,

   Have you tried the [Esc] key? I've found linux apps that accept that as
the meta key; emacs, for example.

Rich

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Re: Alt/Meta again

2005-01-14 Thread Chris Menzel 
On Fri, Jan 14, 2005 at 06:08:01PM -0800, Rich Shepard wrote:
 On Fri, 14 Jan 2005, Chris Menzel wrote:
 
  This seems to be LyX-specific. LeftAlt works fine as Meta under emacs and
  xemacs out of the box. But under LyX it works as I believe it is designed
  to by default, viz., like an Alt key, i.e., Alt-f brings up the File menu,
  Alt-d the Document menu, etc. The most I've been able to do using xmodmap
  is simply to deactivate Alt alt-ogether. :-)
 
 Chris,
 
 Have you tried the [Esc] key? I've found linux apps that accept that as
 the meta key; emacs, for example.

Yes, Rich, I even tried that old standby -- but even if it worked I
wouldn't count it as a solution!  Would be like 20 years ego when I
first learned emacs on a terminal to a DEC 2060.  1-2 punching the
keyboard over and over to move forward by word?  Never again! :-)

-chris

Re: Alt/Meta again

2005-01-14 Thread Rich Shepard 
On Fri, 14 Jan 2005, Chris Menzel wrote:

 This seems to be LyX-specific. LeftAlt works fine as Meta under emacs and
 xemacs out of the box. But under LyX it works as I believe it is designed
 to by default, viz., like an Alt key, i.e., Alt-f brings up the File menu,
 Alt-d the Document menu, etc. The most I've been able to do using xmodmap
 is simply to deactivate Alt alt-ogether. :-)

Chris,

   Have you tried the [Esc] key? I've found linux apps that accept that as
the meta key; emacs, for example.

Rich

-- 
Dr. Richard B. Shepard, President
Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc. (TM)
http://www.appl-ecosys.com   Voice: 503-667-4517   Fax: 503-667-8863

Re: Alt/Meta again

2005-01-14 Thread Chris Menzel 
On Fri, Jan 14, 2005 at 06:08:01PM -0800, Rich Shepard wrote:
 On Fri, 14 Jan 2005, Chris Menzel wrote:
 
  This seems to be LyX-specific. LeftAlt works fine as Meta under emacs and
  xemacs out of the box. But under LyX it works as I believe it is designed
  to by default, viz., like an Alt key, i.e., Alt-f brings up the File menu,
  Alt-d the Document menu, etc. The most I've been able to do using xmodmap
  is simply to deactivate Alt alt-ogether. :-)
 
 Chris,
 
 Have you tried the [Esc] key? I've found linux apps that accept that as
 the meta key; emacs, for example.

Yes, Rich, I even tried that old standby -- but even if it worked I
wouldn't count it as a solution!  Would be like 20 years ego when I
first learned emacs on a terminal to a DEC 2060.  1-2 punching the
keyboard over and over to move forward by word?  Never again! :-)

-chris

Re: Alt/Meta again

2005-01-14 Thread Rich Shepard 
On Fri, 14 Jan 2005, Chris Menzel wrote:

> This seems to be LyX-specific. LeftAlt works fine as Meta under emacs and
> xemacs out of the box. But under LyX it works as I believe it is designed
> to by default, viz., like an Alt key, i.e., Alt-f brings up the File menu,
> Alt-d the Document menu, etc. The most I've been able to do using xmodmap
> is simply to deactivate Alt alt-ogether. :-)

Chris,

   Have you tried the [Esc] key? I've found linux apps that accept that as
the meta key; emacs, for example.

Rich

-- 
Dr. Richard B. Shepard, President
Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc. (TM)
   Voice: 503-667-4517   Fax: 503-667-8863

Re: Alt/Meta again

2005-01-14 Thread Chris Menzel 
On Fri, Jan 14, 2005 at 06:08:01PM -0800, Rich Shepard wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Jan 2005, Chris Menzel wrote:
> 
> > This seems to be LyX-specific. LeftAlt works fine as Meta under emacs and
> > xemacs out of the box. But under LyX it works as I believe it is designed
> > to by default, viz., like an Alt key, i.e., Alt-f brings up the File menu,
> > Alt-d the Document menu, etc. The most I've been able to do using xmodmap
> > is simply to deactivate Alt alt-ogether. :-)
> 
> Chris,
> 
> Have you tried the [Esc] key? I've found linux apps that accept that as
> the meta key; emacs, for example.

Yes, Rich, I even tried that old standby -- but even if it worked I
wouldn't count it as a solution!  Would be like 20 years ego when I
first learned emacs on a terminal to a DEC 2060.  1-2 punching the
keyboard over and over to move forward by word?  Never again! :-)

-chris