Re: Help for a new user
My problems were solved on a third installation attempt, so I report the details here as a record. Thanks a million to Uwe and others that helped make it work. I might suggest incorporating some of these do's and dont's in the Readme file to avoid future problems (especially for total novices like me, which are the ones we want to convert with ease, eh?). At 09:53 PM 8/25/2007 +0200, Uwe Stöhr wrote: Dave Hewitt schrieb: The LyX pop-up instructions for the GSView installer indicate that you'll need to choose a language, but I was not offered a language choice in GSView. I cannot reproduce. The attached image GSview-language.png shows what I get when I press Setup in the appearing GSview installer. Attached is the window I get after I click Setup in the GSView installer. It goes on from that window to a couple other windows and then installs. It never asked for a language, so there appears to be some difference here. The JabRef installer appeared to run just fine, created a desktop icon and everything, and happily closed. Then a LyX installer pop-up said that JabRef could not be installed properly, so I should try again later. The LyX installer went along fine after that. JabRef is clearly on the machine and working. Was this just a LyX installer erroneous pop-up? Yes, this is indeed a bug I fixed now for the next release. When asked if I wanted to update MiKTeX before starting LyX, I said Yes and used the default repository. The download stalled at some point in the process ( 5 minutes), so I quit and tried to update again by the shortcut in the Start Menu. I used a USA repository and it worked. This can unfortunately not be avoided in every case: When MiKTeX provide new updates some package repository need some hours to be up to date. Until they are up to date, you get this error. The default repository I chose for the installer is the one that works the best in my tests. This time around I made the logical choice of picking a repository in the USA from the get-go. It worked just fine. (I should have done this to begin with - my fault.) Upon first start-up of LyX, the configuration did indeed take a very long time... over 25 minutes. It hung up a lot checking for various document/docbook classes and packages. Many of them completed with a no and many did not return a response at all (the ... just stayed there and it went on to the next one). Yes, this is the installation of LaTeX-packages LyX is using. Not all packages are available, therefore you get a no, but this doesn't matter, since these packages are only needed to write papers for special journals. Some of the journal publishers, force you to install their packages manually due to license issues. So seeing some no doesn'T decrease LyX's functionality. At the end, the command line read lyx: Disabling LyX socket. and the cursor returned to a new line. It stayed there for over 10 minutes, so I hit close and I got an error and LyX terminated. I think you mixed something up here. The end of the console window that shows you the package installation the first time looks like this: +checking for package tipa [tipa]... yes +Inspection done. +Read the file doc/LaTeXConfig.lyx for more information. creating packages.lst creating doc/LaTeXConfig.lyx Then this console window is closed automatically. The installer then finishes and LyX is started the first time. Because you used the complete installer version and also installed, LyX is the first time opened with it's console window, that is normally hidden. You can see there again the checks for the LaTeX-packages (quick as they are now already installed). You can leave this console window open or not. When closing LyX, the console is also closed. The next time you start the console won't show up anymore. This is very interesting. My console outputs what you provide above, but then adds the next two lines: LyX: Done! LyX: Disabling LyX socket. [cursor on this next line] LyX starts after the cursor moves to the lower line, but is opened behind this console window. I assumed this console was done and not needed last time I tried the install, so I closed it and that was when the errors occurred. This time I left it there, switched to the LyX program window and checked Help - LaTeX configuration, and all of the entries looked just fine. So I made a new document and created the PDF... everything is fine. When I closed the LyX program, the console went away as well - no errors and all seems well. There apparently is something different happening for me, but it is critical for people in this situation not to close the console before closing LyX, as best I can tell. LyX will start up, and I opened the LaTeXconfig.lyx and most Found entries are ???. You used the menu Help - LaTeX configuration? I can't see this. So, things aren't working. What dos that mean? Can you create a PDF from a LyX document containing only Hello
Re: Help for a new user
Dave Hewitt schrieb: How do you pronounce LyX in English properly? The original name of LyX was Lyrix, so it is pronounced it with the y as the y in lyrics regards Uwe
Re: Help for a new user
On Sat, Aug 25, 2007 at 09:53:47PM +0200, Uwe Stöhr wrote: Dave Hewitt schrieb: The LyX pop-up instructions for the GSView installer indicate that you'll need to choose a language, but I was not offered a language choice in GSView. I cannot reproduce. The attached image GSview-language.png shows what I get when I press Setup in the appearing GSview installer. The JabRef installer appeared to run just fine, created a desktop icon and everything, and happily closed. Then a LyX installer pop-up said that JabRef could not be installed properly, so I should try again later. The LyX installer went along fine after that. JabRef is clearly on the machine and working. Was this just a LyX installer erroneous pop-up? Yes, this is indeed a bug I fixed now for the next release. When asked if I wanted to update MiKTeX before starting LyX, I said Yes and used the default repository. The download stalled at some point in the process ( 5 minutes), so I quit and tried to update again by the shortcut in the Start Menu. I used a USA repository and it worked. This can unfortunately not be avoided in every case: When MiKTeX provide new updates some package repository need some hours to be up to date. Until they are up to date, you get this error. The default repository I chose for the installer is the one that works the best in my tests. Upon first start-up of LyX, the configuration did indeed take a very long time... over 25 minutes. It hung up a lot checking for various document/docbook classes and packages. Many of them completed with a no and many did not return a response at all (the ... just stayed there and it went on to the next one). Yes, this is the installation of LaTeX-packages LyX is using. Not all packages are available, therefore you get a no, but this doesn't matter, since these packages are only needed to write papers for special journals. Since the installer fight showed his ugly head recently I think I might mention my opinion on such behaviour: Waiting 25 minutes for something that I don't need is a bit beyond my expectation even of a 'complete install'. Can't this 'LaTeX package search' thing not somehow happen in the background? Andre'
Re: Help for a new user
Andre Poenitz schrieb: Since the installer fight showed his ugly head recently I think I might mention my opinion on such behaviour: Waiting 25 minutes for something that I don't need is a bit beyond my expectation even of a 'complete install'. Can't this 'LaTeX package search' thing not somehow happen in the background? It can. But currently this is done while configuring LyX, this is independent from the installer you use. I see no probblem here, because the console Window shows you the progress and afterwards the user has a feature complete and working installation And no, you need these packages, otherwise many features of LyX are not usable. (take for example formal tables, instant preview, show changes in output, etc.) regards Uwe
Re: Help for a new user
On Sun, Aug 26, 2007 at 10:48:18PM +0200, Uwe Stöhr wrote: Andre Poenitz schrieb: Since the installer fight showed his ugly head recently I think I might mention my opinion on such behaviour: Waiting 25 minutes for something that I don't need is a bit beyond my expectation even of a 'complete install'. Can't this 'LaTeX package search' thing not somehow happen in the background? It can. But currently this is done while configuring LyX, this is independent from the installer you use. Maybe the LyX configuration nis doing too much then. I see no probblem here, because the console Window shows you the progress and afterwards the user has a feature complete and working installation Putting on that dusty hat of a snobbish Windows user: I'd wet my pants for seeing Clippit swamping me with multimedia ads during installation, but I do not want to see any black Windows during any kind of installiation. 'Consoles' do not exist. If I see one, I call the administrator to kill it. And no, you need these packages, otherwise many features of LyX are not usable. (take for example formal tables, instant preview, show changes in output, etc.) Why not bundle the packages we are actively supporting? Andre'
Re: Help for a new user
Andre Poenitz schrieb: Maybe the LyX configuration nis doing too much then. No, the configuration works correct. It simply asks LaTeX packages are installed or not. And no, you need these packages, otherwise many features of LyX are not usable. (take for example formal tables, instant preview, show changes in output, etc.) Why not bundle the packages we are actively supporting? Because they change too often. I started this project but give up as this is too much work. regards Uwe
Re: Help for a new user
My problems were solved on a third installation attempt, so I report the details here as a record. Thanks a million to Uwe and others that helped make it work. I might suggest incorporating some of these do's and dont's in the Readme file to avoid future problems (especially for total novices like me, which are the ones we want to convert with ease, eh?). At 09:53 PM 8/25/2007 +0200, Uwe Stöhr wrote: Dave Hewitt schrieb: The LyX pop-up instructions for the GSView installer indicate that you'll need to choose a language, but I was not offered a language choice in GSView. I cannot reproduce. The attached image GSview-language.png shows what I get when I press Setup in the appearing GSview installer. Attached is the window I get after I click Setup in the GSView installer. It goes on from that window to a couple other windows and then installs. It never asked for a language, so there appears to be some difference here. The JabRef installer appeared to run just fine, created a desktop icon and everything, and happily closed. Then a LyX installer pop-up said that JabRef could not be installed properly, so I should try again later. The LyX installer went along fine after that. JabRef is clearly on the machine and working. Was this just a LyX installer erroneous pop-up? Yes, this is indeed a bug I fixed now for the next release. When asked if I wanted to update MiKTeX before starting LyX, I said Yes and used the default repository. The download stalled at some point in the process ( 5 minutes), so I quit and tried to update again by the shortcut in the Start Menu. I used a USA repository and it worked. This can unfortunately not be avoided in every case: When MiKTeX provide new updates some package repository need some hours to be up to date. Until they are up to date, you get this error. The default repository I chose for the installer is the one that works the best in my tests. This time around I made the logical choice of picking a repository in the USA from the get-go. It worked just fine. (I should have done this to begin with - my fault.) Upon first start-up of LyX, the configuration did indeed take a very long time... over 25 minutes. It hung up a lot checking for various document/docbook classes and packages. Many of them completed with a no and many did not return a response at all (the ... just stayed there and it went on to the next one). Yes, this is the installation of LaTeX-packages LyX is using. Not all packages are available, therefore you get a no, but this doesn't matter, since these packages are only needed to write papers for special journals. Some of the journal publishers, force you to install their packages manually due to license issues. So seeing some no doesn'T decrease LyX's functionality. At the end, the command line read lyx: Disabling LyX socket. and the cursor returned to a new line. It stayed there for over 10 minutes, so I hit close and I got an error and LyX terminated. I think you mixed something up here. The end of the console window that shows you the package installation the first time looks like this: +checking for package tipa [tipa]... yes +Inspection done. +Read the file doc/LaTeXConfig.lyx for more information. creating packages.lst creating doc/LaTeXConfig.lyx Then this console window is closed automatically. The installer then finishes and LyX is started the first time. Because you used the complete installer version and also installed, LyX is the first time opened with it's console window, that is normally hidden. You can see there again the checks for the LaTeX-packages (quick as they are now already installed). You can leave this console window open or not. When closing LyX, the console is also closed. The next time you start the console won't show up anymore. This is very interesting. My console outputs what you provide above, but then adds the next two lines: LyX: Done! LyX: Disabling LyX socket. [cursor on this next line] LyX starts after the cursor moves to the lower line, but is opened behind this console window. I assumed this console was done and not needed last time I tried the install, so I closed it and that was when the errors occurred. This time I left it there, switched to the LyX program window and checked Help - LaTeX configuration, and all of the entries looked just fine. So I made a new document and created the PDF... everything is fine. When I closed the LyX program, the console went away as well - no errors and all seems well. There apparently is something different happening for me, but it is critical for people in this situation not to close the console before closing LyX, as best I can tell. LyX will start up, and I opened the LaTeXconfig.lyx and most Found entries are ???. You used the menu Help - LaTeX configuration? I can't see this. So, things aren't working. What dos that mean? Can you create a PDF from a LyX document containing only Hello
Re: Help for a new user
Dave Hewitt schrieb: How do you pronounce LyX in English properly? The original name of LyX was Lyrix, so it is pronounced it with the y as the y in lyrics regards Uwe
Re: Help for a new user
On Sat, Aug 25, 2007 at 09:53:47PM +0200, Uwe Stöhr wrote: Dave Hewitt schrieb: The LyX pop-up instructions for the GSView installer indicate that you'll need to choose a language, but I was not offered a language choice in GSView. I cannot reproduce. The attached image GSview-language.png shows what I get when I press Setup in the appearing GSview installer. The JabRef installer appeared to run just fine, created a desktop icon and everything, and happily closed. Then a LyX installer pop-up said that JabRef could not be installed properly, so I should try again later. The LyX installer went along fine after that. JabRef is clearly on the machine and working. Was this just a LyX installer erroneous pop-up? Yes, this is indeed a bug I fixed now for the next release. When asked if I wanted to update MiKTeX before starting LyX, I said Yes and used the default repository. The download stalled at some point in the process ( 5 minutes), so I quit and tried to update again by the shortcut in the Start Menu. I used a USA repository and it worked. This can unfortunately not be avoided in every case: When MiKTeX provide new updates some package repository need some hours to be up to date. Until they are up to date, you get this error. The default repository I chose for the installer is the one that works the best in my tests. Upon first start-up of LyX, the configuration did indeed take a very long time... over 25 minutes. It hung up a lot checking for various document/docbook classes and packages. Many of them completed with a no and many did not return a response at all (the ... just stayed there and it went on to the next one). Yes, this is the installation of LaTeX-packages LyX is using. Not all packages are available, therefore you get a no, but this doesn't matter, since these packages are only needed to write papers for special journals. Since the installer fight showed his ugly head recently I think I might mention my opinion on such behaviour: Waiting 25 minutes for something that I don't need is a bit beyond my expectation even of a 'complete install'. Can't this 'LaTeX package search' thing not somehow happen in the background? Andre'
Re: Help for a new user
Andre Poenitz schrieb: Since the installer fight showed his ugly head recently I think I might mention my opinion on such behaviour: Waiting 25 minutes for something that I don't need is a bit beyond my expectation even of a 'complete install'. Can't this 'LaTeX package search' thing not somehow happen in the background? It can. But currently this is done while configuring LyX, this is independent from the installer you use. I see no probblem here, because the console Window shows you the progress and afterwards the user has a feature complete and working installation And no, you need these packages, otherwise many features of LyX are not usable. (take for example formal tables, instant preview, show changes in output, etc.) regards Uwe
Re: Help for a new user
On Sun, Aug 26, 2007 at 10:48:18PM +0200, Uwe Stöhr wrote: Andre Poenitz schrieb: Since the installer fight showed his ugly head recently I think I might mention my opinion on such behaviour: Waiting 25 minutes for something that I don't need is a bit beyond my expectation even of a 'complete install'. Can't this 'LaTeX package search' thing not somehow happen in the background? It can. But currently this is done while configuring LyX, this is independent from the installer you use. Maybe the LyX configuration nis doing too much then. I see no probblem here, because the console Window shows you the progress and afterwards the user has a feature complete and working installation Putting on that dusty hat of a snobbish Windows user: I'd wet my pants for seeing Clippit swamping me with multimedia ads during installation, but I do not want to see any black Windows during any kind of installiation. 'Consoles' do not exist. If I see one, I call the administrator to kill it. And no, you need these packages, otherwise many features of LyX are not usable. (take for example formal tables, instant preview, show changes in output, etc.) Why not bundle the packages we are actively supporting? Andre'
Re: Help for a new user
Andre Poenitz schrieb: Maybe the LyX configuration nis doing too much then. No, the configuration works correct. It simply asks LaTeX packages are installed or not. And no, you need these packages, otherwise many features of LyX are not usable. (take for example formal tables, instant preview, show changes in output, etc.) Why not bundle the packages we are actively supporting? Because they change too often. I started this project but give up as this is too much work. regards Uwe
Re: Help for a new user
My problems were solved on a third installation attempt, so I report the details here as a record. Thanks a million to Uwe and others that helped make it work. I might suggest incorporating some of these do's and dont's in the Readme file to avoid future problems (especially for total novices like me, which are the ones we want to convert with ease, eh?). At 09:53 PM 8/25/2007 +0200, Uwe Stöhr wrote: Dave Hewitt schrieb: > The LyX pop-up instructions for the GSView installer indicate that > you'll need to choose a language, but I was not offered a language > choice in GSView. I cannot reproduce. The attached image "GSview-language.png" shows what I get when I press "Setup" in the appearing GSview installer. Attached is the window I get after I click "Setup" in the GSView installer. It goes on from that window to a couple other windows and then installs. It never asked for a language, so there appears to be some difference here. > The JabRef installer appeared to run just fine, created a desktop icon > and everything, and happily closed. Then a LyX installer pop-up said > that JabRef could not be installed properly, so I should try again > later. The LyX installer went along fine after that. JabRef is clearly > on the machine and working. Was this just a LyX installer erroneous pop-up? Yes, this is indeed a bug I fixed now for the next release. > When asked if I wanted to update MiKTeX before starting LyX, I said Yes > and used the default repository. The download stalled at some point in > the process (> 5 minutes), so I quit and tried to update again by the > shortcut in the Start Menu. I used a USA repository and it worked. This can unfortunately not be avoided in every case: When MiKTeX provide new updates some package repository need some hours to be up to date. Until they are up to date, you get this error. The default repository I chose for the installer is the one that works the best in my tests. This time around I made the logical choice of picking a repository in the USA from the get-go. It worked just fine. (I should have done this to begin with - my fault.) > Upon first start-up of LyX, the configuration did indeed take a very > long time... over 25 minutes. It hung up a lot "checking for" various > document/docbook classes and packages. Many of them completed with a > "no" and many did not return a response at all (the "..." just stayed > there and it went on to the next one). Yes, this is the installation of LaTeX-packages LyX is using. Not all packages are available, therefore you get a "no", but this doesn't matter, since these packages are only needed to write papers for special journals. Some of the journal publishers, force you to install their packages manually due to license issues. So seeing some "no" doesn'T decrease LyX's functionality. > At the end, the command line read "lyx: Disabling LyX socket." and the > cursor returned to a new line. It stayed there for over 10 minutes, so I > hit "close" and I got an error and LyX terminated. I think you mixed something up here. The end of the console window that shows you the package installation the first time looks like this: +checking for package tipa [tipa]... yes +Inspection done. +Read the file doc/LaTeXConfig.lyx for more information. creating packages.lst creating doc/LaTeXConfig.lyx Then this console window is closed automatically. The installer then finishes and LyX is started the first time. Because you used the complete installer version and also installed, LyX is the first time opened with it's console window, that is normally hidden. You can see there again the checks for the LaTeX-packages (quick as they are now already installed). You can leave this console window open or not. When closing LyX, the console is also closed. The next time you start the console won't show up anymore. This is very interesting. My console outputs what you provide above, but then adds the next two lines: LyX: Done! LyX: Disabling LyX socket. [cursor on this next line] LyX starts after the cursor moves to the lower line, but is opened behind this console window. I assumed this console was done and not needed last time I tried the install, so I closed it and that was when the errors occurred. This time I left it there, switched to the LyX program window and checked "Help -> LaTeX configuration", and all of the entries looked just fine. So I made a new document and created the PDF... everything is fine. When I closed the LyX program, the console went away as well - no errors and all seems well. There apparently is something different happening for me, but it is critical for people in this situation not to close the console before closing LyX, as best I can tell. > LyX will start up, and I opened the LaTeXconfig.lyx and most "Found" > entries are "???". You used the menu Help -> LaTeX configuration? I can't see this. > So, things aren't working. What dos that mean? Can you create a
Re: Help for a new user
Dave Hewitt schrieb: How do you pronounce "LyX" in English properly? The original name of LyX was "Lyrix", so it is pronounced it with the "y" as the "y" in "lyrics" regards Uwe
Re: Help for a new user
On Sat, Aug 25, 2007 at 09:53:47PM +0200, Uwe Stöhr wrote: > Dave Hewitt schrieb: > > > The LyX pop-up instructions for the GSView installer indicate that > > you'll need to choose a language, but I was not offered a language > > choice in GSView. > > I cannot reproduce. The attached image "GSview-language.png" shows what I > get when I press "Setup" in the appearing GSview installer. > > > The JabRef installer appeared to run just fine, created a desktop icon > > and everything, and happily closed. Then a LyX installer pop-up said > > that JabRef could not be installed properly, so I should try again > > later. The LyX installer went along fine after that. JabRef is clearly > > on the machine and working. Was this just a LyX installer erroneous > pop-up? > > Yes, this is indeed a bug I fixed now for the next release. > > > When asked if I wanted to update MiKTeX before starting LyX, I said Yes > > and used the default repository. The download stalled at some point in > > the process (> 5 minutes), so I quit and tried to update again by the > > shortcut in the Start Menu. I used a USA repository and it worked. > > This can unfortunately not be avoided in every case: When MiKTeX provide > new updates some package repository need some hours to be up to date. Until > they are up to date, you get this error. > The default repository I chose for the installer is the one that works the > best in my tests. > > > Upon first start-up of LyX, the configuration did indeed take a very > > long time... over 25 minutes. It hung up a lot "checking for" various > > document/docbook classes and packages. Many of them completed with a > > "no" and many did not return a response at all (the "..." just stayed > > there and it went on to the next one). > > Yes, this is the installation of LaTeX-packages LyX is using. Not all > packages are available, therefore you get a "no", but this doesn't matter, > since these packages are only needed to write papers for special journals. Since the installer fight showed his ugly head recently I think I might mention my opinion on such behaviour: Waiting 25 minutes for something that I don't need is a bit beyond my expectation even of a 'complete install'. Can't this 'LaTeX package search' thing not somehow happen in the background? Andre'
Re: Help for a new user
Andre Poenitz schrieb: Since the installer fight showed his ugly head recently I think I might mention my opinion on such behaviour: Waiting 25 minutes for something that I don't need is a bit beyond my expectation even of a 'complete install'. Can't this 'LaTeX package search' thing not somehow happen in the background? It can. But currently this is done while configuring LyX, this is independent from the installer you use. I see no probblem here, because the console Window shows you the progress and afterwards the user has a feature complete and working installation And no, you need these packages, otherwise many features of LyX are not usable. (take for example formal tables, instant preview, show changes in output, etc.) regards Uwe
Re: Help for a new user
On Sun, Aug 26, 2007 at 10:48:18PM +0200, Uwe Stöhr wrote: > Andre Poenitz schrieb: > > >Since the installer fight showed his ugly head recently I think I might > >mention my opinion on such behaviour: Waiting 25 minutes for something > >that I don't need is a bit beyond my expectation even of a 'complete > >install'. Can't this 'LaTeX package search' thing not somehow happen in > >the background? > > It can. But currently this is done while configuring LyX, this is > independent from the installer you use. Maybe the LyX configuration nis doing too much then. > I see no probblem here, because the console Window shows you the progress > and afterwards the user has a feature complete and working installation Putting on that dusty hat of a snobbish Windows user: I'd wet my pants for seeing Clippit swamping me with multimedia ads during installation, but I do not want to see any black Windows during any kind of installiation. 'Consoles' do not exist. If I see one, I call the administrator to kill it. > And no, you need these packages, otherwise many features of LyX are not > usable. (take for example formal tables, instant preview, show changes in > output, etc.) Why not bundle the packages we are actively supporting? Andre'
Re: Help for a new user
Andre Poenitz schrieb: Maybe the LyX configuration nis doing too much then. No, the configuration works correct. It simply asks LaTeX packages are installed or not. And no, you need these packages, otherwise many features of LyX are not usable. (take for example formal tables, instant preview, show changes in output, etc.) Why not bundle the packages we are actively supporting? Because they change too often. I started this project but give up as this is too much work. regards Uwe
Re: Help for a new user
Joost Verburg schrieb: So why not just hide the windows and show the output in the installer log? Because the user needs to be informed what is currently done and which package is currently installed. This is important since this process can last half an hour with a slow internet connection. regards Uwe
Re: Help for a new user
Dave Hewitt schrieb: The LyX pop-up instructions for the GSView installer indicate that you'll need to choose a language, but I was not offered a language choice in GSView. I cannot reproduce. The attached image GSview-language.png shows what I get when I press Setup in the appearing GSview installer. The JabRef installer appeared to run just fine, created a desktop icon and everything, and happily closed. Then a LyX installer pop-up said that JabRef could not be installed properly, so I should try again later. The LyX installer went along fine after that. JabRef is clearly on the machine and working. Was this just a LyX installer erroneous pop-up? Yes, this is indeed a bug I fixed now for the next release. When asked if I wanted to update MiKTeX before starting LyX, I said Yes and used the default repository. The download stalled at some point in the process ( 5 minutes), so I quit and tried to update again by the shortcut in the Start Menu. I used a USA repository and it worked. This can unfortunately not be avoided in every case: When MiKTeX provide new updates some package repository need some hours to be up to date. Until they are up to date, you get this error. The default repository I chose for the installer is the one that works the best in my tests. Upon first start-up of LyX, the configuration did indeed take a very long time... over 25 minutes. It hung up a lot checking for various document/docbook classes and packages. Many of them completed with a no and many did not return a response at all (the ... just stayed there and it went on to the next one). Yes, this is the installation of LaTeX-packages LyX is using. Not all packages are available, therefore you get a no, but this doesn't matter, since these packages are only needed to write papers for special journals. Some of the journal publishers, force you to install their packages manually due to license issues. So seeing some no doesn'T decrease LyX's functionality. At the end, the command line read lyx: Disabling LyX socket. and the cursor returned to a new line. It stayed there for over 10 minutes, so I hit close and I got an error and LyX terminated. I think you mixed something up here. The end of the console window that shows you the package installation the first time looks like this: +checking for package tipa [tipa]... yes +Inspection done. +Read the file doc/LaTeXConfig.lyx for more information. creating packages.lst creating doc/LaTeXConfig.lyx Then this console window is closed automatically. The installer then finishes and LyX is started the first time. Because you used the complete installer version and also installed, LyX is the first time opened with it's console window, that is normally hidden. You can see there again the checks for the LaTeX-packages (quick as they are now already installed). You can leave this console window open or not. When closing LyX, the console is also closed. The next time you start the console won't show up anymore. LyX will start up, and I opened the LaTeXconfig.lyx and most Found entries are ???. You used the menu Help - LaTeX configuration? I can't see this. So, things aren't working. What dos that mean? Can you create a PDF from a LyX document containing only Hello world? Use the menu Tools - Reconfigure, restart LyX afterwards and check if Help - LaTeX configuration is now correct. regards Uwe inline: GSview-language.png
Re: Help for a new user
Upon first start-up of LyX, the configuration did indeed take a very long time... over 25 minutes. I would suggest that we start lyx before configure and show the output of configure.py in a lyx windows. Otherwise, people tend to close the DOS window or kill lyx.exe if it stays there for 25 min. Cheers, Bo
Re: Help for a new user
Joost Verburg schrieb: So why not just hide the windows and show the output in the installer log? Because the user needs to be informed what is currently done and which package is currently installed. This is important since this process can last half an hour with a slow internet connection. regards Uwe
Re: Help for a new user
Dave Hewitt schrieb: The LyX pop-up instructions for the GSView installer indicate that you'll need to choose a language, but I was not offered a language choice in GSView. I cannot reproduce. The attached image GSview-language.png shows what I get when I press Setup in the appearing GSview installer. The JabRef installer appeared to run just fine, created a desktop icon and everything, and happily closed. Then a LyX installer pop-up said that JabRef could not be installed properly, so I should try again later. The LyX installer went along fine after that. JabRef is clearly on the machine and working. Was this just a LyX installer erroneous pop-up? Yes, this is indeed a bug I fixed now for the next release. When asked if I wanted to update MiKTeX before starting LyX, I said Yes and used the default repository. The download stalled at some point in the process ( 5 minutes), so I quit and tried to update again by the shortcut in the Start Menu. I used a USA repository and it worked. This can unfortunately not be avoided in every case: When MiKTeX provide new updates some package repository need some hours to be up to date. Until they are up to date, you get this error. The default repository I chose for the installer is the one that works the best in my tests. Upon first start-up of LyX, the configuration did indeed take a very long time... over 25 minutes. It hung up a lot checking for various document/docbook classes and packages. Many of them completed with a no and many did not return a response at all (the ... just stayed there and it went on to the next one). Yes, this is the installation of LaTeX-packages LyX is using. Not all packages are available, therefore you get a no, but this doesn't matter, since these packages are only needed to write papers for special journals. Some of the journal publishers, force you to install their packages manually due to license issues. So seeing some no doesn'T decrease LyX's functionality. At the end, the command line read lyx: Disabling LyX socket. and the cursor returned to a new line. It stayed there for over 10 minutes, so I hit close and I got an error and LyX terminated. I think you mixed something up here. The end of the console window that shows you the package installation the first time looks like this: +checking for package tipa [tipa]... yes +Inspection done. +Read the file doc/LaTeXConfig.lyx for more information. creating packages.lst creating doc/LaTeXConfig.lyx Then this console window is closed automatically. The installer then finishes and LyX is started the first time. Because you used the complete installer version and also installed, LyX is the first time opened with it's console window, that is normally hidden. You can see there again the checks for the LaTeX-packages (quick as they are now already installed). You can leave this console window open or not. When closing LyX, the console is also closed. The next time you start the console won't show up anymore. LyX will start up, and I opened the LaTeXconfig.lyx and most Found entries are ???. You used the menu Help - LaTeX configuration? I can't see this. So, things aren't working. What dos that mean? Can you create a PDF from a LyX document containing only Hello world? Use the menu Tools - Reconfigure, restart LyX afterwards and check if Help - LaTeX configuration is now correct. regards Uwe inline: GSview-language.png
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Upon first start-up of LyX, the configuration did indeed take a very long time... over 25 minutes. I would suggest that we start lyx before configure and show the output of configure.py in a lyx windows. Otherwise, people tend to close the DOS window or kill lyx.exe if it stays there for 25 min. Cheers, Bo
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Joost Verburg schrieb: So why not just hide the windows and show the output in the installer log? Because the user needs to be informed what is currently done and which package is currently installed. This is important since this process can last half an hour with a slow internet connection. regards Uwe
Re: Help for a new user
Dave Hewitt schrieb: > The LyX pop-up instructions for the GSView installer indicate that > you'll need to choose a language, but I was not offered a language > choice in GSView. I cannot reproduce. The attached image "GSview-language.png" shows what I get when I press "Setup" in the appearing GSview installer. > The JabRef installer appeared to run just fine, created a desktop icon > and everything, and happily closed. Then a LyX installer pop-up said > that JabRef could not be installed properly, so I should try again > later. The LyX installer went along fine after that. JabRef is clearly > on the machine and working. Was this just a LyX installer erroneous pop-up? Yes, this is indeed a bug I fixed now for the next release. > When asked if I wanted to update MiKTeX before starting LyX, I said Yes > and used the default repository. The download stalled at some point in > the process (> 5 minutes), so I quit and tried to update again by the > shortcut in the Start Menu. I used a USA repository and it worked. This can unfortunately not be avoided in every case: When MiKTeX provide new updates some package repository need some hours to be up to date. Until they are up to date, you get this error. The default repository I chose for the installer is the one that works the best in my tests. > Upon first start-up of LyX, the configuration did indeed take a very > long time... over 25 minutes. It hung up a lot "checking for" various > document/docbook classes and packages. Many of them completed with a > "no" and many did not return a response at all (the "..." just stayed > there and it went on to the next one). Yes, this is the installation of LaTeX-packages LyX is using. Not all packages are available, therefore you get a "no", but this doesn't matter, since these packages are only needed to write papers for special journals. Some of the journal publishers, force you to install their packages manually due to license issues. So seeing some "no" doesn'T decrease LyX's functionality. > At the end, the command line read "lyx: Disabling LyX socket." and the > cursor returned to a new line. It stayed there for over 10 minutes, so I > hit "close" and I got an error and LyX terminated. I think you mixed something up here. The end of the console window that shows you the package installation the first time looks like this: +checking for package tipa [tipa]... yes +Inspection done. +Read the file doc/LaTeXConfig.lyx for more information. creating packages.lst creating doc/LaTeXConfig.lyx Then this console window is closed automatically. The installer then finishes and LyX is started the first time. Because you used the complete installer version and also installed, LyX is the first time opened with it's console window, that is normally hidden. You can see there again the checks for the LaTeX-packages (quick as they are now already installed). You can leave this console window open or not. When closing LyX, the console is also closed. The next time you start the console won't show up anymore. > LyX will start up, and I opened the LaTeXconfig.lyx and most "Found" > entries are "???". You used the menu Help -> LaTeX configuration? I can't see this. > So, things aren't working. What dos that mean? Can you create a PDF from a LyX document containing only "Hello world"? Use the menu Tools -> Reconfigure, restart LyX afterwards and check if Help -> LaTeX configuration is now correct. regards Uwe <>
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> Upon first start-up of LyX, the configuration did indeed take a very long > time... over 25 minutes. I would suggest that we start lyx before configure and show the output of configure.py in a lyx windows. Otherwise, people tend to close the DOS window or kill lyx.exe if it stays there for 25 min. Cheers, Bo
Re: Help for a new user
Uwe Stöhr wrote: Dave Hewitt schrieb: I downloaded the latest LyxWinInstaller (complete) and attempted to install on a WinXP machine (fairly new, plenty or memory and speed, etc.). At a couple points in the installation a DOS window popped up, did something that seemed to take only a short time, but then stayed there and wouldn't close. The installer was halted during this time. For each window I just waited a while and then closed it. Don't do this! The first two DOS-Windows are opened by MiKTeX - the LaTeX-distribution that is installed with the complete installer. They should only stay for some seconds and then be closed automatically. If those windows don't tell the users anything then some will close them, they are used to click through some pages type of installs already. If don't close cannot be added (by echo statements or similiar) then the user need to be informed that closing dos windows will break the install - and they will disappear after some time anyway. Helge Hafting
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Helge Hafting schrieb: If those windows don't tell the users anything then some will close them, they are used to click through some pages type of installs already. The installer informs you about the following steps with a message. regards Uwe
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Hello, I appreciate the help very much. I think it might have gotten me closer to a clean install, but there were still a few complications. I sincerely hope that this message does not trouble those that are uninterested, and I'll direct future discussion directly only to Uwe if desired. (Again, I'm new here, just trying to get it right - and doing my best to be diligent.) ... The MiKTeX DOS windows did as you said - opened and then closed - and I let them. Good. The LyX pop-up instructions for the GSView installer indicate that you'll need to choose a language, but I was not offered a language choice in GSView. I had been previously asked to choose a language for LyX itself, but that was different. I don't think this is an actual problem, just a note. The JabRef installer appeared to run just fine, created a desktop icon and everything, and happily closed. Then a LyX installer pop-up said that JabRef could not be installed properly, so I should try again later. The LyX installer went along fine after that. JabRef is clearly on the machine and working. Was this just a LyX installer erroneous pop-up? When asked if I wanted to update MiKTeX before starting LyX, I said Yes and used the default repository. The download stalled at some point in the process ( 5 minutes), so I quit and tried to update again by the shortcut in the Start Menu. I used a USA repository and it worked. Upon first start-up of LyX, the configuration did indeed take a very long time... over 25 minutes. It hung up a lot checking for various document/docbook classes and packages. Many of them completed with a no and many did not return a response at all (the ... just stayed there and it went on to the next one). At the end, the command line read lyx: Disabling LyX socket. and the cursor returned to a new line. It stayed there for over 10 minutes, so I hit close and I got an error and LyX terminated. LyX will start up, and I opened the LaTeXconfig.lyx and most Found entries are ???. So, things aren't working. I still want this to work and I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong. I closed all other programs, have an open, fast internet connection... What to do? Dave At 08:05 PM 8/23/2007 +0200, Uwe Stöhr wrote: Dave Hewitt schrieb: I downloaded the latest LyxWinInstaller (complete) and attempted to install on a WinXP machine (fairly new, plenty or memory and speed, etc.). At a couple points in the installation a DOS window popped up, did something that seemed to take only a short time, but then stayed there and wouldn't close. The installer was halted during this time. For each window I just waited a while and then closed it. Don't do this! The first two DOS-Windows are opened by MiKTeX - the LaTeX-distribution that is installed with the complete installer. They should only stay for some seconds and then be closed automatically. When the installer shows you the message that The following configuration of LyX will take a while then a Console window pops up showing you the effort of the configuration. When you have an open internet connection, missing LaTeX-packages needed by LyX will be downloaded and installed what can take some Minutes, depending on your Internet connection speed. The console window shows you what LaTeX-package is currently installed to inform you about the progress. To get a clean installation, uninstall LyX completely will all progtrams that the unistaller offers to uninstall. Reinstall LyX afterwards (with an open internet connection if possible). When you had already MiKTeX installed before you installed LyX and it was version MiKTeX 2.4., uninstall also MiKTeX before you reinstall LyX. When you still have problems, report me at which position in the console window the installation fails or stops (screenshot of the console window would be fine). regards Uwe
Re: Help for a new user
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think it's a relatively easy mistake to do... How about adding some descriptions to this text? It wouldn't have to be a lot, in fact... maybe it could just refer to a web (wiki?) page where the details are explained? So why not just hide the windows and show the output in the installer log? Joost
Re: Help for a new user
Uwe Stöhr wrote: Dave Hewitt schrieb: I downloaded the latest LyxWinInstaller (complete) and attempted to install on a WinXP machine (fairly new, plenty or memory and speed, etc.). At a couple points in the installation a DOS window popped up, did something that seemed to take only a short time, but then stayed there and wouldn't close. The installer was halted during this time. For each window I just waited a while and then closed it. Don't do this! The first two DOS-Windows are opened by MiKTeX - the LaTeX-distribution that is installed with the complete installer. They should only stay for some seconds and then be closed automatically. If those windows don't tell the users anything then some will close them, they are used to click through some pages type of installs already. If don't close cannot be added (by echo statements or similiar) then the user need to be informed that closing dos windows will break the install - and they will disappear after some time anyway. Helge Hafting
Re: Help for a new user
Helge Hafting schrieb: If those windows don't tell the users anything then some will close them, they are used to click through some pages type of installs already. The installer informs you about the following steps with a message. regards Uwe
Re: Help for a new user
Hello, I appreciate the help very much. I think it might have gotten me closer to a clean install, but there were still a few complications. I sincerely hope that this message does not trouble those that are uninterested, and I'll direct future discussion directly only to Uwe if desired. (Again, I'm new here, just trying to get it right - and doing my best to be diligent.) ... The MiKTeX DOS windows did as you said - opened and then closed - and I let them. Good. The LyX pop-up instructions for the GSView installer indicate that you'll need to choose a language, but I was not offered a language choice in GSView. I had been previously asked to choose a language for LyX itself, but that was different. I don't think this is an actual problem, just a note. The JabRef installer appeared to run just fine, created a desktop icon and everything, and happily closed. Then a LyX installer pop-up said that JabRef could not be installed properly, so I should try again later. The LyX installer went along fine after that. JabRef is clearly on the machine and working. Was this just a LyX installer erroneous pop-up? When asked if I wanted to update MiKTeX before starting LyX, I said Yes and used the default repository. The download stalled at some point in the process ( 5 minutes), so I quit and tried to update again by the shortcut in the Start Menu. I used a USA repository and it worked. Upon first start-up of LyX, the configuration did indeed take a very long time... over 25 minutes. It hung up a lot checking for various document/docbook classes and packages. Many of them completed with a no and many did not return a response at all (the ... just stayed there and it went on to the next one). At the end, the command line read lyx: Disabling LyX socket. and the cursor returned to a new line. It stayed there for over 10 minutes, so I hit close and I got an error and LyX terminated. LyX will start up, and I opened the LaTeXconfig.lyx and most Found entries are ???. So, things aren't working. I still want this to work and I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong. I closed all other programs, have an open, fast internet connection... What to do? Dave At 08:05 PM 8/23/2007 +0200, Uwe Stöhr wrote: Dave Hewitt schrieb: I downloaded the latest LyxWinInstaller (complete) and attempted to install on a WinXP machine (fairly new, plenty or memory and speed, etc.). At a couple points in the installation a DOS window popped up, did something that seemed to take only a short time, but then stayed there and wouldn't close. The installer was halted during this time. For each window I just waited a while and then closed it. Don't do this! The first two DOS-Windows are opened by MiKTeX - the LaTeX-distribution that is installed with the complete installer. They should only stay for some seconds and then be closed automatically. When the installer shows you the message that The following configuration of LyX will take a while then a Console window pops up showing you the effort of the configuration. When you have an open internet connection, missing LaTeX-packages needed by LyX will be downloaded and installed what can take some Minutes, depending on your Internet connection speed. The console window shows you what LaTeX-package is currently installed to inform you about the progress. To get a clean installation, uninstall LyX completely will all progtrams that the unistaller offers to uninstall. Reinstall LyX afterwards (with an open internet connection if possible). When you had already MiKTeX installed before you installed LyX and it was version MiKTeX 2.4., uninstall also MiKTeX before you reinstall LyX. When you still have problems, report me at which position in the console window the installation fails or stops (screenshot of the console window would be fine). regards Uwe
Re: Help for a new user
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think it's a relatively easy mistake to do... How about adding some descriptions to this text? It wouldn't have to be a lot, in fact... maybe it could just refer to a web (wiki?) page where the details are explained? So why not just hide the windows and show the output in the installer log? Joost
Re: Help for a new user
Uwe Stöhr wrote: Dave Hewitt schrieb: I downloaded the latest LyxWinInstaller (complete) and attempted to install on a WinXP machine (fairly new, plenty or memory and speed, etc.). At a couple points in the installation a DOS window popped up, did something that seemed to take only a short time, but then stayed there and wouldn't close. The installer was halted during this time. For each window I just waited a while and then closed it. Don't do this! The first two DOS-Windows are opened by MiKTeX - the LaTeX-distribution that is installed with the complete installer. They should only stay for some seconds and then be closed automatically. If those windows don't tell the users anything then some will close them, they are used to "click through some pages" type of installs already. If "don't close" cannot be added (by echo statements or similiar) then the user need to be informed that closing dos windows will break the install - and they will disappear after some time anyway. Helge Hafting
Re: Help for a new user
Helge Hafting schrieb: If those windows don't tell the users anything then some will close them, they are used to "click through some pages" type of installs already. The installer informs you about the following steps with a message. regards Uwe
Re: Help for a new user
Hello, I appreciate the help very much. I think it might have gotten me closer to a clean install, but there were still a few complications. I sincerely hope that this message does not trouble those that are uninterested, and I'll direct future discussion directly only to Uwe if desired. (Again, I'm new here, just trying to get it right - and doing my best to be diligent.) ... The MiKTeX DOS windows did as you said - opened and then closed - and I let them. Good. The LyX pop-up instructions for the GSView installer indicate that you'll need to choose a language, but I was not offered a language choice in GSView. I had been previously asked to choose a language for LyX itself, but that was different. I don't think this is an actual problem, just a note. The JabRef installer appeared to run just fine, created a desktop icon and everything, and happily closed. Then a LyX installer pop-up said that JabRef could not be installed properly, so I should try again later. The LyX installer went along fine after that. JabRef is clearly on the machine and working. Was this just a LyX installer erroneous pop-up? When asked if I wanted to update MiKTeX before starting LyX, I said Yes and used the default repository. The download stalled at some point in the process (> 5 minutes), so I quit and tried to update again by the shortcut in the Start Menu. I used a USA repository and it worked. Upon first start-up of LyX, the configuration did indeed take a very long time... over 25 minutes. It hung up a lot "checking for" various document/docbook classes and packages. Many of them completed with a "no" and many did not return a response at all (the "..." just stayed there and it went on to the next one). At the end, the command line read "lyx: Disabling LyX socket." and the cursor returned to a new line. It stayed there for over 10 minutes, so I hit "close" and I got an error and LyX terminated. LyX will start up, and I opened the LaTeXconfig.lyx and most "Found" entries are "???". So, things aren't working. I still want this to work and I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong. I closed all other programs, have an open, fast internet connection... What to do? Dave At 08:05 PM 8/23/2007 +0200, Uwe Stöhr wrote: Dave Hewitt schrieb: I downloaded the latest LyxWinInstaller (complete) and attempted to install on a WinXP machine (fairly new, plenty or memory and speed, etc.). At a couple points in the installation a DOS window popped up, did something that seemed to take only a short time, but then stayed there and wouldn't close. The installer was halted during this time. For each window I just waited a while and then closed it. Don't do this! The first two DOS-Windows are opened by MiKTeX - the LaTeX-distribution that is installed with the complete installer. They should only stay for some seconds and then be closed automatically. When the installer shows you the message that "The following configuration of LyX will take a while" then a Console window pops up showing you the effort of the configuration. When you have an open internet connection, missing LaTeX-packages needed by LyX will be downloaded and installed what can take some Minutes, depending on your Internet connection speed. The console window shows you what LaTeX-package is currently installed to inform you about the progress. To get a clean installation, uninstall LyX completely will all progtrams that the unistaller offers to uninstall. Reinstall LyX afterwards (with an open internet connection if possible). When you had already MiKTeX installed before you installed LyX and it was version MiKTeX 2.4., uninstall also MiKTeX before you reinstall LyX. When you still have problems, report me at which position in the console window the installation fails or stops (screenshot of the console window would be fine). regards Uwe
Re: Help for a new user
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think it's a relatively easy mistake to do... How about adding some descriptions to this text? It wouldn't have to be a lot, in fact... maybe it could just refer to a web (wiki?) page where the details are explained? So why not just hide the windows and show the output in the installer log? Joost
Re: Help for a new user
Dave Hewitt schrieb: I downloaded the latest LyxWinInstaller (complete) and attempted to install on a WinXP machine (fairly new, plenty or memory and speed, etc.). At a couple points in the installation a DOS window popped up, did something that seemed to take only a short time, but then stayed there and wouldn't close. The installer was halted during this time. For each window I just waited a while and then closed it. Don't do this! The first two DOS-Windows are opened by MiKTeX - the LaTeX-distribution that is installed with the complete installer. They should only stay for some seconds and then be closed automatically. When the installer shows you the message that The following configuration of LyX will take a while then a Console window pops up showing you the effort of the configuration. When you have an open internet connection, missing LaTeX-packages needed by LyX will be downloaded and installed what can take some Minutes, depending on your Internet connection speed. The console window shows you what LaTeX-package is currently installed to inform you about the progress. To get a clean installation, uninstall LyX completely will all progtrams that the unistaller offers to uninstall. Reinstall LyX afterwards (with an open internet connection if possible). When you had already MiKTeX installed before you installed LyX and it was version MiKTeX 2.4., uninstall also MiKTeX before you reinstall LyX. When you still have problems, report me at which position in the console window the installation fails or stops (screenshot of the console window would be fine). regards Uwe
Re: Help for a new user
On Thu, 23 Aug 2007, Uwe Stöhr wrote: Dave Hewitt schrieb: I downloaded the latest LyxWinInstaller (complete) and attempted to install on a WinXP machine (fairly new, plenty or memory and speed, etc.). At a couple points in the installation a DOS window popped up, did something that seemed to take only a short time, but then stayed there and wouldn't close. The installer was halted during this time. For each window I just waited a while and then closed it. Don't do this! The first two DOS-Windows are opened by MiKTeX - the LaTeX-distribution that is installed with the complete installer. They should only stay for some seconds and then be closed automatically. snip I think it's a relatively easy mistake to do... How about adding some descriptions to this text? It wouldn't have to be a lot, in fact... maybe it could just refer to a web (wiki?) page where the details are explained? /Christian -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44 http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Re: Help for a new user
Dave Hewitt schrieb: I downloaded the latest LyxWinInstaller (complete) and attempted to install on a WinXP machine (fairly new, plenty or memory and speed, etc.). At a couple points in the installation a DOS window popped up, did something that seemed to take only a short time, but then stayed there and wouldn't close. The installer was halted during this time. For each window I just waited a while and then closed it. Don't do this! The first two DOS-Windows are opened by MiKTeX - the LaTeX-distribution that is installed with the complete installer. They should only stay for some seconds and then be closed automatically. When the installer shows you the message that The following configuration of LyX will take a while then a Console window pops up showing you the effort of the configuration. When you have an open internet connection, missing LaTeX-packages needed by LyX will be downloaded and installed what can take some Minutes, depending on your Internet connection speed. The console window shows you what LaTeX-package is currently installed to inform you about the progress. To get a clean installation, uninstall LyX completely will all progtrams that the unistaller offers to uninstall. Reinstall LyX afterwards (with an open internet connection if possible). When you had already MiKTeX installed before you installed LyX and it was version MiKTeX 2.4., uninstall also MiKTeX before you reinstall LyX. When you still have problems, report me at which position in the console window the installation fails or stops (screenshot of the console window would be fine). regards Uwe
Re: Help for a new user
On Thu, 23 Aug 2007, Uwe Stöhr wrote: Dave Hewitt schrieb: I downloaded the latest LyxWinInstaller (complete) and attempted to install on a WinXP machine (fairly new, plenty or memory and speed, etc.). At a couple points in the installation a DOS window popped up, did something that seemed to take only a short time, but then stayed there and wouldn't close. The installer was halted during this time. For each window I just waited a while and then closed it. Don't do this! The first two DOS-Windows are opened by MiKTeX - the LaTeX-distribution that is installed with the complete installer. They should only stay for some seconds and then be closed automatically. snip I think it's a relatively easy mistake to do... How about adding some descriptions to this text? It wouldn't have to be a lot, in fact... maybe it could just refer to a web (wiki?) page where the details are explained? /Christian -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44 http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Re: Help for a new user
Dave Hewitt schrieb: I downloaded the latest LyxWinInstaller (complete) and attempted to install on a WinXP machine (fairly new, plenty or memory and speed, etc.). At a couple points in the installation a DOS window popped up, did something that seemed to take only a short time, but then stayed there and wouldn't close. The installer was halted during this time. For each window I just waited a while and then closed it. Don't do this! The first two DOS-Windows are opened by MiKTeX - the LaTeX-distribution that is installed with the complete installer. They should only stay for some seconds and then be closed automatically. When the installer shows you the message that "The following configuration of LyX will take a while" then a Console window pops up showing you the effort of the configuration. When you have an open internet connection, missing LaTeX-packages needed by LyX will be downloaded and installed what can take some Minutes, depending on your Internet connection speed. The console window shows you what LaTeX-package is currently installed to inform you about the progress. To get a clean installation, uninstall LyX completely will all progtrams that the unistaller offers to uninstall. Reinstall LyX afterwards (with an open internet connection if possible). When you had already MiKTeX installed before you installed LyX and it was version MiKTeX 2.4., uninstall also MiKTeX before you reinstall LyX. When you still have problems, report me at which position in the console window the installation fails or stops (screenshot of the console window would be fine). regards Uwe
Re: Help for a new user
On Thu, 23 Aug 2007, Uwe Stöhr wrote: Dave Hewitt schrieb: I downloaded the latest LyxWinInstaller (complete) and attempted to install on a WinXP machine (fairly new, plenty or memory and speed, etc.). At a couple points in the installation a DOS window popped up, did something that seemed to take only a short time, but then stayed there and wouldn't close. The installer was halted during this time. For each window I just waited a while and then closed it. Don't do this! The first two DOS-Windows are opened by MiKTeX - the LaTeX-distribution that is installed with the complete installer. They should only stay for some seconds and then be closed automatically. I think it's a relatively easy mistake to do... How about adding some descriptions to this text? It wouldn't have to be a lot, in fact... maybe it could just refer to a web (wiki?) page where the details are explained? /Christian -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44 http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
