Re: RE : bibliography
Josep Roca wrote: A Divendres 18 Març 2005 11:16, Renard Francois va escriure: Hum, JabREF, tkbibtex, sixpack, ... How to choose ? Pybliographic (http://www.pybliographer.org/) Pybliographer is supplied with SuSE 9.1 but does not work (missing _recode ). On SuSE 9.2 is it not supplied, and I cannot find anything on the suse.com website. Does anyone know where to find a SuSE RPM for Pybliographer? John O'Gorman
Re: RE : bibliography
Josep Roca wrote: A Divendres 18 Març 2005 11:16, Renard Francois va escriure: Hum, JabREF, tkbibtex, sixpack, ... How to choose ? Pybliographic (http://www.pybliographer.org/) Pybliographer is supplied with SuSE 9.1 but does not work (missing _recode ). On SuSE 9.2 is it not supplied, and I cannot find anything on the suse.com website. Does anyone know where to find a SuSE RPM for Pybliographer? John O'Gorman
Re: RE : bibliography
Josep Roca wrote: A Divendres 18 Març 2005 11:16, Renard Francois va escriure: Hum, JabREF, tkbibtex, sixpack, ... How to choose ? Pybliographic (http://www.pybliographer.org/) Pybliographer is supplied with SuSE 9.1 but does not work (missing _recode ). On SuSE 9.2 is it not supplied, and I cannot find anything on the suse.com website. Does anyone know where to find a SuSE RPM for Pybliographer? John O'Gorman
Re: RE : bibliography
Geoffrey Lloyd wrote: On Thu, 17 Mar 2005, EXT / TEAMLOG MELLERIN Pierrick wrote: JabRef (written in Java) is the good choice as for me. You can find it at this address : http://jabref.sourceforge.net/ Or Tkbibtex www.cat.csiro.au/cmst/staff/pic/tkbibtex.html -Message d'origine- De : Renard Francois [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoyé : jeudi 17 mars 2005 15:16 À : User Lyx Objet : bibliography Hello everybody, About bibliography, I'd like to know if there is a bibliography software to recommend for use under Linux or Solaris, and adapted to generate latex bibliography (.bib) and able to insert automatically new bibliography references (from search engines like ISI web of science or Inspec, ...). Thank you, François Thank you for your answers ! Hum, JabREF, tkbibtex, sixpack, ... How to choose ? -- François RENARD CEA/DIF/DASE/SRCE BP 12 F-91680 Bruyeres Le Chatel FRANCE tel:(33)(0)1.69.26.62.99 fax:(33)(0)1.69.26.70.65 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RE : bibliography
A Divendres 18 Març 2005 11:16, Renard Francois va escriure: Hum, JabREF, tkbibtex, sixpack, ... How to choose ? Pybliographic (http://www.pybliographer.org/)
Re: RE : bibliography
On Fri, 18 Mar 2005, Josep Roca wrote: A Divendres 18 Març 2005 11:16, Renard Francois va escriure: Hum, JabREF, tkbibtex, sixpack, ... How to choose ? Pybliographic (http://www.pybliographer.org/) After trying a few of the above, I settled on emacs, BibTeX mode, about 2 years ago and am very satisfied. For those who do not like emacs, one of the above is clearly a preferred choice. Tkbibtex and pybliographer(ic?) worked well for me and, except for minor problems that I think related to abbreviations, they exchange files with emacs. -- Mark Hansel Minnesota State University Moorhead Moorhead, MN 56563 ph: 218-477-2039 fax: 218-477-2593 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwwcj.mnstate.edu
Re: RE : bibliography
Geoffrey Lloyd wrote: On Thu, 17 Mar 2005, EXT / TEAMLOG MELLERIN Pierrick wrote: JabRef (written in Java) is the good choice as for me. You can find it at this address : http://jabref.sourceforge.net/ Or Tkbibtex www.cat.csiro.au/cmst/staff/pic/tkbibtex.html -Message d'origine- De : Renard Francois [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoyé : jeudi 17 mars 2005 15:16 À : User Lyx Objet : bibliography Hello everybody, About bibliography, I'd like to know if there is a bibliography software to recommend for use under Linux or Solaris, and adapted to generate latex bibliography (.bib) and able to insert automatically new bibliography references (from search engines like ISI web of science or Inspec, ...). Thank you, François Thank you for your answers ! Hum, JabREF, tkbibtex, sixpack, ... How to choose ? -- François RENARD CEA/DIF/DASE/SRCE BP 12 F-91680 Bruyeres Le Chatel FRANCE tel:(33)(0)1.69.26.62.99 fax:(33)(0)1.69.26.70.65 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RE : bibliography
A Divendres 18 Març 2005 11:16, Renard Francois va escriure: Hum, JabREF, tkbibtex, sixpack, ... How to choose ? Pybliographic (http://www.pybliographer.org/)
Re: RE : bibliography
On Fri, 18 Mar 2005, Josep Roca wrote: A Divendres 18 Març 2005 11:16, Renard Francois va escriure: Hum, JabREF, tkbibtex, sixpack, ... How to choose ? Pybliographic (http://www.pybliographer.org/) After trying a few of the above, I settled on emacs, BibTeX mode, about 2 years ago and am very satisfied. For those who do not like emacs, one of the above is clearly a preferred choice. Tkbibtex and pybliographer(ic?) worked well for me and, except for minor problems that I think related to abbreviations, they exchange files with emacs. -- Mark Hansel Minnesota State University Moorhead Moorhead, MN 56563 ph: 218-477-2039 fax: 218-477-2593 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwwcj.mnstate.edu
Re: RE : bibliography
Geoffrey Lloyd wrote: On Thu, 17 Mar 2005, EXT / TEAMLOG MELLERIN Pierrick wrote: JabRef (written in Java) is the good choice as for me. You can find it at this address : http://jabref.sourceforge.net/ Or Tkbibtex www.cat.csiro.au/cmst/staff/pic/tkbibtex.html -Message d'origine- De : Renard Francois [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoyé : jeudi 17 mars 2005 15:16 À : User Lyx Objet : bibliography Hello everybody, About bibliography, I'd like to know if there is a bibliography software to recommend for use under Linux or Solaris, and adapted to generate latex bibliography (.bib) and able to insert automatically new bibliography references (from search engines like ISI web of science or Inspec, ...). Thank you, François Thank you for your answers ! Hum, JabREF, tkbibtex, sixpack, ... How to choose ? -- François RENARD CEA/DIF/DASE/SRCE BP 12 F-91680 Bruyeres Le Chatel FRANCE tel:(33)(0)1.69.26.62.99 fax:(33)(0)1.69.26.70.65 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RE : bibliography
A Divendres 18 Març 2005 11:16, Renard Francois va escriure: > Hum, JabREF, tkbibtex, sixpack, ... How to choose ? Pybliographic (http://www.pybliographer.org/)
Re: RE : bibliography
On Fri, 18 Mar 2005, Josep Roca wrote: > A Divendres 18 Març 2005 11:16, Renard Francois va escriure: > > Hum, JabREF, tkbibtex, sixpack, ... How to choose ? > > Pybliographic (http://www.pybliographer.org/) After trying a few of the above, I settled on emacs, BibTeX mode, about 2 years ago and am very satisfied. For those who do not like emacs, one of the above is clearly a preferred choice. Tkbibtex and pybliographer(ic?) worked well for me and, except for minor problems that I think related to abbreviations, they exchange files with emacs. -- Mark Hansel Minnesota State University Moorhead Moorhead, MN 56563 ph: 218-477-2039 fax: 218-477-2593 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwwcj.mnstate.edu
Re: RE : bibliography
On Thu, 17 Mar 2005, EXT / TEAMLOG MELLERIN Pierrick wrote: JabRef (written in Java) is the good choice as for me. You can find it at this address : http://jabref.sourceforge.net/ Or Tkbibtex www.cat.csiro.au/cmst/staff/pic/tkbibtex.html -Message d'origine- De : Renard Francois [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoyé : jeudi 17 mars 2005 15:16 À : User Lyx Objet : bibliography Hello everybody, About bibliography, I'd like to know if there is a bibliography software to recommend for use under Linux or Solaris, and adapted to generate latex bibliography (.bib) and able to insert automatically new bibliography references (from search engines like ISI web of science or Inspec, ...). Thank you, François -- François RENARD CEA/DIF/DASE/SRCE BP 12 F-91680 Bruyeres Le Chatel FRANCE tel:(33)(0)1.69.26.62.99 fax:(33)(0)1.69.26.70.65 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RE : bibliography
On Thu, 17 Mar 2005, EXT / TEAMLOG MELLERIN Pierrick wrote: JabRef (written in Java) is the good choice as for me. You can find it at this address : http://jabref.sourceforge.net/ Or Tkbibtex www.cat.csiro.au/cmst/staff/pic/tkbibtex.html -Message d'origine- De : Renard Francois [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoyé : jeudi 17 mars 2005 15:16 À : User Lyx Objet : bibliography Hello everybody, About bibliography, I'd like to know if there is a bibliography software to recommend for use under Linux or Solaris, and adapted to generate latex bibliography (.bib) and able to insert automatically new bibliography references (from search engines like ISI web of science or Inspec, ...). Thank you, François -- François RENARD CEA/DIF/DASE/SRCE BP 12 F-91680 Bruyeres Le Chatel FRANCE tel:(33)(0)1.69.26.62.99 fax:(33)(0)1.69.26.70.65 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RE : bibliography
On Thu, 17 Mar 2005, EXT / TEAMLOG MELLERIN Pierrick wrote: JabRef (written in Java) is the good choice as for me. You can find it at this address : http://jabref.sourceforge.net/ Or Tkbibtex www.cat.csiro.au/cmst/staff/pic/tkbibtex.html -Message d'origine- De : Renard Francois [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoyé : jeudi 17 mars 2005 15:16 À : User Lyx Objet : bibliography Hello everybody, About bibliography, I'd like to know if there is a bibliography software to recommend for use under Linux or Solaris, and adapted to generate latex bibliography (.bib) and able to insert automatically new bibliography references (from search engines like ISI web of science or Inspec, ...). Thank you, François -- François RENARD CEA/DIF/DASE/SRCE BP 12 F-91680 Bruyeres Le Chatel FRANCE tel:(33)(0)1.69.26.62.99 fax:(33)(0)1.69.26.70.65 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re: Bibliography
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb am 20.02.03 12:34:30:
Dominik == Dominik Wassenhoven [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Dominik Maybe you have to add a \usepackage{babel} *before*
Dominik \usepackage{jurabib}, because babel *has* to be loaded before
Dominik jurabib, but LyX puts the babel-command right before
Dominik \begin{document}. Note that you have to use the same
Dominik babel-options as in the LyX-settings.
No option is OK, ie just \usepackage{babel}.
JMarc
That is right, but IF using options in the LyX settings (e.g.
\usepackage[ngerman]{babel}), then just typing \usepackage{babel} in the preamble
causes new problems: Babel cannot be loaded twice with differing options. (At least
this problem occured here).
Dominik.-
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Re: Re: Bibliography
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb am 20.02.03 12:34:30:
Dominik == Dominik Wassenhoven [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Dominik Maybe you have to add a \usepackage{babel} *before*
Dominik \usepackage{jurabib}, because babel *has* to be loaded before
Dominik jurabib, but LyX puts the babel-command right before
Dominik \begin{document}. Note that you have to use the same
Dominik babel-options as in the LyX-settings.
No option is OK, ie just \usepackage{babel}.
JMarc
That is right, but IF using options in the LyX settings (e.g.
\usepackage[ngerman]{babel}), then just typing \usepackage{babel} in the preamble
causes new problems: Babel cannot be loaded twice with differing options. (At least
this problem occured here).
Dominik.-
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Re: Re: Bibliography
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb am 20.02.03 12:34:30:
>
> > "Dominik" == Dominik Wassenhoven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Dominik> Maybe you have to add a \usepackage{babel} *before*
> Dominik> \usepackage{jurabib}, because babel *has* to be loaded before
> Dominik> jurabib, but LyX puts the babel-command right before
> Dominik> \begin{document}. Note that you have to use the same
> Dominik> babel-options as in the LyX-settings.
>
> No option is OK, ie just "\usepackage{babel}".
>
> JMarc
>
That is right, but IF using options in the LyX settings (e.g.
"\usepackage[ngerman]{babel}"), then just typing "\usepackage{babel}" in the preamble
causes new problems: Babel cannot be loaded twice with differing options. (At least
this problem occured here).
Dominik.-
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Re: Re: Bibliography
On Wed, 15 May 2002 12:17:36 +0200 (MET DST) wrote Jean-Pierre.Chretien [EMAIL PROTECTED]: When it comes to sorting on other fields (and more generally to fine sorting control), I'm not aware of the possibilities of gbib and pybliographics (nor tkbibtex that I use to push to LyX), tkbibtex does only an alphabetical sort after the key (EditSort). but there is bibsort among the excellent suite of awk scripts written by Nelson Beebe. You might also try BibTool, a C program for fast manipulating (sorting, automatic key generation, remove of doublettes, excerpts, ...) available from CTAN. once merged and sorted in a new bibfile, the unsrt style take the cited stuf as it is. AFAIK, the unsrt bibtex style does a sequential numbering: the first cited item gets [1], the next [2] and so on. (i.e. it is not really unsorted but sorted by appearance in the doc (which BTW is the style I need most often and would like to see as default in LyX)). Günter -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re: Bibliography
AFAIK, the unsrt bibtex style does a sequential numbering: the first cited item gets [1], the next [2] and so on. (i.e. it is not really unsorted but sorted by appearance in the doc (which BTW is the style I need most often and would like to see as default in LyX)). It isn't what I need more often, and I'm sure my preference is more important ;) Rod rod | Beneath the waves, the waves / That's where I will be / | I'm going to see the cow beneath the sea. | They Might Be Giants, Lincoln
Re: Re: Bibliography
Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 08:59:58 +0200 (CEST)
From: Guenter Milde [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Re: Bibliography
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Wed, 15 May 2002 12:17:36 +0200 (MET DST) wrote Jean-Pierre.Chretien
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
When it comes to sorting on other fields (and more generally to
fine sorting control), I'm not aware of the possibilities of gbib and
pybliographics (nor tkbibtex that I use to push to LyX),
tkbibtex does only an alphabetical sort after the key (EditSort).
but there is bibsort among the excellent suite of awk scripts written by
Nelson Beebe.
You might also try BibTool, a C program for fast manipulating (sorting,
automatic key generation, remove of doublettes, excerpts, ...) available
from CTAN.
once merged and sorted in a new bibfile, the unsrt style take the
cited stuf as it is.
AFAIK, the unsrt bibtex style does a sequential numbering: the first cited
item gets [1], the next [2] and so on. (i.e. it is not really unsorted but
sorted by appearance in the doc (which BTW is the style I need most often
and would like to see as default in LyX)).
OK, I guess I was unclear because I often use \nocite{*}
to cite the whole database, in which case unsrt prints it in the
order of the bib file.
So to make use of an advanced external sorting tool, I don't see
any other solution than issuing a \nocite{*}
just after the \begin{document} and restricting the database to
the set of desired records.
Issuing an explicit \nocite{key1,key2,...} with unsrt is OK, but it
removes in fact the need for external sorting.
plain sorts by {author|editor|organization},year,title in all cases.
Does this sound OK ?
--
Jean-Pierre
Re: Re: Bibliography
On Wed, 15 May 2002 12:17:36 +0200 (MET DST) wrote Jean-Pierre.Chretien [EMAIL PROTECTED]: When it comes to sorting on other fields (and more generally to fine sorting control), I'm not aware of the possibilities of gbib and pybliographics (nor tkbibtex that I use to push to LyX), tkbibtex does only an alphabetical sort after the key (EditSort). but there is bibsort among the excellent suite of awk scripts written by Nelson Beebe. You might also try BibTool, a C program for fast manipulating (sorting, automatic key generation, remove of doublettes, excerpts, ...) available from CTAN. once merged and sorted in a new bibfile, the unsrt style take the cited stuf as it is. AFAIK, the unsrt bibtex style does a sequential numbering: the first cited item gets [1], the next [2] and so on. (i.e. it is not really unsorted but sorted by appearance in the doc (which BTW is the style I need most often and would like to see as default in LyX)). Günter -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re: Bibliography
AFAIK, the unsrt bibtex style does a sequential numbering: the first cited item gets [1], the next [2] and so on. (i.e. it is not really unsorted but sorted by appearance in the doc (which BTW is the style I need most often and would like to see as default in LyX)). It isn't what I need more often, and I'm sure my preference is more important ;) Rod rod | Beneath the waves, the waves / That's where I will be / | I'm going to see the cow beneath the sea. | They Might Be Giants, Lincoln
Re: Re: Bibliography
Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 08:59:58 +0200 (CEST)
From: Guenter Milde [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Re: Bibliography
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Wed, 15 May 2002 12:17:36 +0200 (MET DST) wrote Jean-Pierre.Chretien
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
When it comes to sorting on other fields (and more generally to
fine sorting control), I'm not aware of the possibilities of gbib and
pybliographics (nor tkbibtex that I use to push to LyX),
tkbibtex does only an alphabetical sort after the key (EditSort).
but there is bibsort among the excellent suite of awk scripts written by
Nelson Beebe.
You might also try BibTool, a C program for fast manipulating (sorting,
automatic key generation, remove of doublettes, excerpts, ...) available
from CTAN.
once merged and sorted in a new bibfile, the unsrt style take the
cited stuf as it is.
AFAIK, the unsrt bibtex style does a sequential numbering: the first cited
item gets [1], the next [2] and so on. (i.e. it is not really unsorted but
sorted by appearance in the doc (which BTW is the style I need most often
and would like to see as default in LyX)).
OK, I guess I was unclear because I often use \nocite{*}
to cite the whole database, in which case unsrt prints it in the
order of the bib file.
So to make use of an advanced external sorting tool, I don't see
any other solution than issuing a \nocite{*}
just after the \begin{document} and restricting the database to
the set of desired records.
Issuing an explicit \nocite{key1,key2,...} with unsrt is OK, but it
removes in fact the need for external sorting.
plain sorts by {author|editor|organization},year,title in all cases.
Does this sound OK ?
--
Jean-Pierre
Re: Re: Bibliography
On Wed, 15 May 2002 12:17:36 +0200 (MET DST) wrote "Jean-Pierre.Chretien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > When it comes to sorting on other fields (and more generally to > fine sorting control), I'm not aware of the possibilities of gbib and > pybliographics (nor tkbibtex that I use to push to LyX), tkbibtex does only an alphabetical sort after the key (Edit>Sort). > but there is bibsort among the excellent suite of awk scripts written by > Nelson Beebe. You might also try BibTool, a C program for fast manipulating (sorting, automatic key generation, remove of doublettes, excerpts, ...) available from CTAN. > once merged and sorted in a new bibfile, the unsrt style take the > cited stuf as it is. AFAIK, the unsrt bibtex style does a sequential numbering: the first cited item gets [1], the next [2] and so on. (i.e. it is not really unsorted but sorted by appearance in the doc (which BTW is the style I need most often and would like to see as default in LyX)). Günter -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re: Bibliography
> AFAIK, the unsrt bibtex style does a sequential numbering: the first cited > item gets [1], the next [2] and so on. (i.e. it is not really unsorted but > sorted by appearance in the doc (which BTW is the style I need most often > and would like to see as default in LyX)). It isn't what I need more often, and I'm sure my preference is more important ;) Rod rod | "Beneath the waves, the waves / That's where I will be / | I'm going to see the cow beneath the sea." | They Might Be Giants, Lincoln
Re: Re: Bibliography
>>Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 08:59:58 +0200 (CEST)
>>From: Guenter Milde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Subject: Re: Re: Bibliography
>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>>On Wed, 15 May 2002 12:17:36 +0200 (MET DST) wrote "Jean-Pierre.Chretien"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>
>>> When it comes to sorting on other fields (and more generally to
>>> fine sorting control), I'm not aware of the possibilities of gbib and
>>> pybliographics (nor tkbibtex that I use to push to LyX),
>>
>>tkbibtex does only an alphabetical sort after the key (Edit>Sort).
>>
>>> but there is bibsort among the excellent suite of awk scripts written by
>>> Nelson Beebe.
>>
>>You might also try BibTool, a C program for fast manipulating (sorting,
>>automatic key generation, remove of doublettes, excerpts, ...) available
>>from CTAN.
>>
>>> once merged and sorted in a new bibfile, the unsrt style take the
>>> cited stuf as it is.
>>
>>AFAIK, the unsrt bibtex style does a sequential numbering: the first cited
>>item gets [1], the next [2] and so on. (i.e. it is not really unsorted but
>>sorted by appearance in the doc (which BTW is the style I need most often
>>and would like to see as default in LyX)).
OK, I guess I was unclear because I often use \nocite{*}
to cite the whole database, in which case unsrt prints it in the
order of the bib file.
So to make use of an advanced external sorting tool, I don't see
any other solution than issuing a \nocite{*}
just after the \begin{document} and restricting the database to
the set of desired records.
Issuing an explicit \nocite{key1,key2,...} with unsrt is OK, but it
removes in fact the need for external sorting.
plain sorts by {author|editor|organization},year,title in all cases.
Does this sound OK ?
--
Jean-Pierre
