Re: Updating TexLive from Ubuntu/Mint

[Helge Hafting]

Den 22. mars 2016 13:21, skrev UD:
I had installed TeXLive in Mint through the Synaptic package manager, 
but I believe that-- as is usual with Ubuntu-- they do not keep up 
with updates, especially with something as package-rich as Latex.   
Under Windows it is possible to maintain Latex packages up to date 
using either the MikTex package manager or the one that come with 
TexLive for Windows, but the debian-based distros like (for good 
reasons) to restrict updating to their own mechanisms.  Oh well... 
it's a compromise I can live with.

Thanks for the suggestions.

If Ubuntu does not update its TexLive packages often enough for you, 
consider removing them and installing
TexLive manually by downloading from 
https://www.tug.org/texlive/acquire-netinstall.html


Make sure you install under /usr/local, that way your manual texlive 
install won't interfere with the Ubuntu
package management (and vice-versa.) Ubuntu management stays out of 
/usr/local/


You may then update as often as you like, and have a very up-to-date 
TexLive.


If other ubuntu packages depends on the ubuntu texlive packages, then 
there are ways to "tell"
the package management system that Texlive is provided through other 
means. Still, things may break
if ubuntu stuff depends on the exact version of Texlive that is provided 
in Ubuntu.


You will notice any such dependencies when you remove Ubuntu's texlive - 
the package manager will suggest

removal of the dependant packages too.

Helge Hafting

Re: Updating TexLive from Ubuntu/Mint

[UD]

  
  
I had installed TeXLive in Mint through the Synaptic package
manager, but I believe that-- as is usual with Ubuntu-- they do not
keep up with updates, especially with something as package-rich as
Latex.   Under Windows it is possible to maintain Latex packages up
to date using either the MikTex package manager or the one that come
with TexLive for Windows, but the debian-based distros like (for
good reasons) to restrict updating to their own mechanisms.  Oh
well... it's a compromise I can live with.
Thanks for the suggestions.

On 03/22/2016 12:42 AM, Scott Kostyshak
  wrote:


  On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 11:20:32AM -0400, UD wrote:

  
This is not a new topic, and this is probably not the right place to
ask, but
how do I update TexLive in Ubuntu (15.10) or Mint (17.3)?  When
TexLive is installed via Ubuntu, there is no package manager, and
Ubuntu discourages package management that is done outside of its own
package management.
Thanks
E.Kaplan

  
  
You might be interested in
https://github.com/scottkosty/install-tl-ubuntu/

On Mint if /opt does not exist, you might need to do something like the
following:
sudo mkdir --mode=755 /opt
see e.g.
https://github.com/scottkosty/install-tl-ubuntu/issues/20

Scott



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Re: Updating TexLive from Ubuntu/Mint

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 11:20:32AM -0400, UD wrote:
> This is not a new topic, and this is probably not the right place to
> ask, but
> how do I update TexLive in Ubuntu (15.10) or Mint (17.3)?  When
> TexLive is installed via Ubuntu, there is no package manager, and
> Ubuntu discourages package management that is done outside of its own
> package management.
> Thanks
> E.Kaplan

You might be interested in
https://github.com/scottkosty/install-tl-ubuntu/

On Mint if /opt does not exist, you might need to do something like the
following:
sudo mkdir --mode=755 /opt
see e.g.
https://github.com/scottkosty/install-tl-ubuntu/issues/20

Scott


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Re: Updating TexLive from Ubuntu/Mint

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 12:47:42PM -0400, David L. Johnson wrote:
> On 03/21/2016 11:20 AM, UD wrote:

> On the other hand, TeXlive (how do they spell/capitalize that, anyway?) is
> quite mature by now, and not much changes between updates.

I agree regarding e.g. pdfTeX and TeX Live itself (e.g. tlmgr), but I
find that there are many noticeable (for better and worse) changes in
LuaTeX and all of the CTAN packages that are continuously updated.

Scott


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Re: Updating TexLive from Ubuntu/Mint

[Daniel CLEMENT]

Le lundi 21 mars 2016 à 11:20 -0400, UD a écrit :
> This is not a new topic, and this is probably not the right place to
> ask, but 
> how do I update TexLive in Ubuntu (15.10) or Mint (17.3)?  When
> TexLive is installed via Ubuntu, there is no package manager, and
> Ubuntu discourages package management that is done outside of its own
> package management. 

Yes, and with Ubuntu's "fixed base" you don't get major version updates.

Perhaps this PPA can help?

https://launchpad.net/~jonathonf/+archive/ubuntu/texlive

(Note that I'm not using it, I've been an Ubuntu user but I switched to
Debian.)

> Thanks
> E.Kaplan 
> --
HTH,
-- 
Daniel CLEMENT

Re: Updating TexLive from Ubuntu/Mint

[David L. Johnson]

On 03/21/2016 11:20 AM, UD wrote:
This is not a new topic, and this is probably not the right place to 
ask, but
how do I update TexLive in Ubuntu (15.10) or Mint (17.3)?  When 
TexLive is installed via Ubuntu, there is no package manager, and 
Ubuntu discourages package management that is done outside of its own 
package management.
I don't know that much about Ubuntu, except that it is debian based (as 
is Mint, isn't it?).  I can't imagine why Ubuntu's update path, with or 
without a package management program, would not keep TeXlive fairly well 
up-to-date.  How do you go about updating Ubuntu?  For debian "apt-get 
update; apt-get upgrade" works perfectly well.


You need to find someone (maybe someone on this list) who is 
knowledgeable about Ubuntu, and find out how to upgrade in general. If 
that is not forthcoming then you should find a distribution (such as 
"real" debian) that allows easy updates.


On the other hand, TeXlive (how do they spell/capitalize that, anyway?) 
is quite mature by now, and not much changes between updates.  What is 
it that you can't do with the version you have (and which version is it?)?



--
 
David L. Johnson

Department of Mathematics
Lehigh University

Re: Updating TexLive from Ubuntu/Mint

[Kornel Benko]

Am Montag, 21. März 2016 um 11:20:32, schrieb UD 
> This is not a new topic, and this is probably not the right place to ask, but
> how do I update TexLive in Ubuntu (15.10) or Mint (17.3)?  When TexLive is 
> installed via Ubuntu, there is no package manager, and Ubuntu discourages 
> package management that is done outside of its own package management.
> Thanks
> E.Kaplan
> --

TL is included in the package manager for debian packages like synaptic.

Kornel


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