Re: Using counters
obregonma...@gmail.com wrote: Perhaps we need a bit more documentation on how to use modules to set-up specific behaviours in both LyX and LaTeX. and good start is to put up what you have learned somewhere in the wiki. pavel
Re: Using counters
obregonma...@gmail.com wrote: Perhaps we need a bit more documentation on how to use modules to set-up specific behaviours in both LyX and LaTeX. and good start is to put up what you have learned somewhere in the wiki. pavel
Re: Using counters
obregonma...@gmail.com wrote: > Perhaps we need a bit more documentation on how to use modules to set-up > specific behaviours in both LyX and LaTeX. and good start is to put up what you have learned somewhere in the wiki. pavel
Re: Using counters
On 2009-05-18, Helge Hafting wrote:
obregonma...@gmail.com wrote:
On Friday 15 May 2009, obregonma...@gmail.com wrote:
I want to have a counter (experiment) that uses roman numerals and
is sequential throughout the chapters. I figure that a module is the
right way about this, so I have a module with the following counter:
Yes. You have to use refstepcounter inside your \experimentSection
command. This increments the counter for you, and also sets the
reference string so that the next label will get the experiment number
instead of the section number. Note that \refstepcounter won't work
inside a \section command though. (latex limitation)
The whole module looks like this:
...
It can be slightly simplified:
#\DeclareLyXModule{testexperiment}
#This is a test!
AddToPreamble
\newcounter{experiment}\setcounter{experiment}{1}
\renewcommand{\theexperiment}{\textit{\Roman{experiment}}}
EndPreamble
## A new section style, for the correct printing of the experiment title
that also looks nice on the screen:
Style Experiment
CopyStyle Section
LatexName experimentSection
LabelType Counter
LabelString \thesection Experiment\theexperiment.
LabelCounter section
OptionalArgs 1
Font
Shape Italic
SizeLarge
EndFont
Preamble
\newcommand{\experimentSection}[1]{%
\section{\textit{Experiment \theexperiment. #1}}
\refstepcounter{experiment}
}
EndPreamble
End
And we also have to use \stepcounter _before_ the section,
so that the printed number won't be one too low.
...
I know of no way to set the reference string _without_ also incrementing
the counter. Such a command would make things simpler, but I don't think
it exists.
I just start the counter wiht 1 instead of 0, so it is correct
*before* \refstepcounter is applied.
...
if you insert a label in the text following an experiment line, then any
cross reference to that label will print the roman numeral for the
experiment.
If you put a label inside the experiment line itself, then cross
references to that internal label will print the experiment's section
number. So be careful how you place your labels!
Günter
Re: Using counters
Guenter Milde wrote:
On 2009-05-18, Helge Hafting wrote:
obregonma...@gmail.com wrote:
On Friday 15 May 2009, obregonma...@gmail.com wrote:
I want to have a counter (experiment) that uses roman numerals and
is sequential throughout the chapters. I figure that a module is the
right way about this, so I have a module with the following counter:
Yes. You have to use refstepcounter inside your \experimentSection
command. This increments the counter for you, and also sets the
reference string so that the next label will get the experiment number
instead of the section number. Note that \refstepcounter won't work
inside a \section command though. (latex limitation)
The whole module looks like this:
...
It can be slightly simplified:
#\DeclareLyXModule{testexperiment}
#This is a test!
AddToPreamble
\newcounter{experiment}\setcounter{experiment}{1}
\renewcommand{\theexperiment}{\textit{\Roman{experiment}}}
EndPreamble
## A new section style, for the correct printing of the experiment title
that also looks nice on the screen:
Style Experiment
CopyStyle Section
LatexName experimentSection
LabelType Counter
LabelString \thesection Experiment\theexperiment.
LabelCounter section
OptionalArgs 1
Font
Shape Italic
SizeLarge
EndFont
Preamble
\newcommand{\experimentSection}[1]{%
\section{\textit{Experiment \theexperiment. #1}}
\refstepcounter{experiment}
}
EndPreamble
End
And we also have to use \stepcounter _before_ the section,
so that the printed number won't be one too low.
...
I know of no way to set the reference string _without_ also incrementing
the counter. Such a command would make things simpler, but I don't think
it exists.
I just start the counter wiht 1 instead of 0, so it is correct
*before* \refstepcounter is applied.
I tried that during my testing, but the problem is that references to
any label inside such a experiment will be off by one!
See experiment 8 when the label is in experiment 7 is not useful.
Everything will seem fine as long as you don't use cross-references.
Helge Hafting
Re: Using counters
Many thanks to all (especially Günter and Helge) for helping me solve this
issue of having different counters throughout a document. This has also helped
me understand how LyX behaviour has be coded to mirror the desired LaTeX
behaviour, and how the LyX modules design is so useful for this.
Perhaps we need a bit more documentation on how to use modules to set-up
specific behaviours in both LyX and LaTeX.
Cheers.
Mateo.
On Tuesday 19 May 2009, Helge Hafting wrote:
Guenter Milde wrote:
On 2009-05-18, Helge Hafting wrote:
obregonma...@gmail.com wrote:
On Friday 15 May 2009, obregonma...@gmail.com wrote:
I want to have a counter (experiment) that uses roman numerals and
is sequential throughout the chapters. I figure that a module is the
right way about this, so I have a module with the following counter:
Yes. You have to use refstepcounter inside your \experimentSection
command. This increments the counter for you, and also sets the
reference string so that the next label will get the experiment number
instead of the section number. Note that \refstepcounter won't work
inside a \section command though. (latex limitation)
The whole module looks like this:
...
It can be slightly simplified:
#\DeclareLyXModule{testexperiment}
#This is a test!
AddToPreamble
\newcounter{experiment}\setcounter{experiment}{1}
\renewcommand{\theexperiment}{\textit{\Roman{experiment}}}
EndPreamble
## A new section style, for the correct printing of the experiment title
that also looks nice on the screen:
Style Experiment
CopyStyle Section
LatexName experimentSection
LabelType Counter
LabelString \thesection Experiment\theexperiment.
LabelCounter section
OptionalArgs 1
Font
Shape Italic
SizeLarge
EndFont
Preamble
\newcommand{\experimentSection}[1]{%
\section{\textit{Experiment \theexperiment. #1}}
\refstepcounter{experiment}
}
EndPreamble
End
And we also have to use \stepcounter _before_ the section,
so that the printed number won't be one too low.
...
I know of no way to set the reference string _without_ also incrementing
the counter. Such a command would make things simpler, but I don't think
it exists.
I just start the counter wiht 1 instead of 0, so it is correct
*before* \refstepcounter is applied.
I tried that during my testing, but the problem is that references to
any label inside such a experiment will be off by one!
See experiment 8 when the label is in experiment 7 is not useful.
Everything will seem fine as long as you don't use cross-references.
Helge Hafting
Re: Using counters
On 2009-05-18, Helge Hafting wrote:
obregonma...@gmail.com wrote:
On Friday 15 May 2009, obregonma...@gmail.com wrote:
I want to have a counter (experiment) that uses roman numerals and
is sequential throughout the chapters. I figure that a module is the
right way about this, so I have a module with the following counter:
Yes. You have to use refstepcounter inside your \experimentSection
command. This increments the counter for you, and also sets the
reference string so that the next label will get the experiment number
instead of the section number. Note that \refstepcounter won't work
inside a \section command though. (latex limitation)
The whole module looks like this:
...
It can be slightly simplified:
#\DeclareLyXModule{testexperiment}
#This is a test!
AddToPreamble
\newcounter{experiment}\setcounter{experiment}{1}
\renewcommand{\theexperiment}{\textit{\Roman{experiment}}}
EndPreamble
## A new section style, for the correct printing of the experiment title
that also looks nice on the screen:
Style Experiment
CopyStyle Section
LatexName experimentSection
LabelType Counter
LabelString \thesection Experiment\theexperiment.
LabelCounter section
OptionalArgs 1
Font
Shape Italic
SizeLarge
EndFont
Preamble
\newcommand{\experimentSection}[1]{%
\section{\textit{Experiment \theexperiment. #1}}
\refstepcounter{experiment}
}
EndPreamble
End
And we also have to use \stepcounter _before_ the section,
so that the printed number won't be one too low.
...
I know of no way to set the reference string _without_ also incrementing
the counter. Such a command would make things simpler, but I don't think
it exists.
I just start the counter wiht 1 instead of 0, so it is correct
*before* \refstepcounter is applied.
...
if you insert a label in the text following an experiment line, then any
cross reference to that label will print the roman numeral for the
experiment.
If you put a label inside the experiment line itself, then cross
references to that internal label will print the experiment's section
number. So be careful how you place your labels!
Günter
Re: Using counters
Guenter Milde wrote:
On 2009-05-18, Helge Hafting wrote:
obregonma...@gmail.com wrote:
On Friday 15 May 2009, obregonma...@gmail.com wrote:
I want to have a counter (experiment) that uses roman numerals and
is sequential throughout the chapters. I figure that a module is the
right way about this, so I have a module with the following counter:
Yes. You have to use refstepcounter inside your \experimentSection
command. This increments the counter for you, and also sets the
reference string so that the next label will get the experiment number
instead of the section number. Note that \refstepcounter won't work
inside a \section command though. (latex limitation)
The whole module looks like this:
...
It can be slightly simplified:
#\DeclareLyXModule{testexperiment}
#This is a test!
AddToPreamble
\newcounter{experiment}\setcounter{experiment}{1}
\renewcommand{\theexperiment}{\textit{\Roman{experiment}}}
EndPreamble
## A new section style, for the correct printing of the experiment title
that also looks nice on the screen:
Style Experiment
CopyStyle Section
LatexName experimentSection
LabelType Counter
LabelString \thesection Experiment\theexperiment.
LabelCounter section
OptionalArgs 1
Font
Shape Italic
SizeLarge
EndFont
Preamble
\newcommand{\experimentSection}[1]{%
\section{\textit{Experiment \theexperiment. #1}}
\refstepcounter{experiment}
}
EndPreamble
End
And we also have to use \stepcounter _before_ the section,
so that the printed number won't be one too low.
...
I know of no way to set the reference string _without_ also incrementing
the counter. Such a command would make things simpler, but I don't think
it exists.
I just start the counter wiht 1 instead of 0, so it is correct
*before* \refstepcounter is applied.
I tried that during my testing, but the problem is that references to
any label inside such a experiment will be off by one!
See experiment 8 when the label is in experiment 7 is not useful.
Everything will seem fine as long as you don't use cross-references.
Helge Hafting
Re: Using counters
Many thanks to all (especially Günter and Helge) for helping me solve this
issue of having different counters throughout a document. This has also helped
me understand how LyX behaviour has be coded to mirror the desired LaTeX
behaviour, and how the LyX modules design is so useful for this.
Perhaps we need a bit more documentation on how to use modules to set-up
specific behaviours in both LyX and LaTeX.
Cheers.
Mateo.
On Tuesday 19 May 2009, Helge Hafting wrote:
Guenter Milde wrote:
On 2009-05-18, Helge Hafting wrote:
obregonma...@gmail.com wrote:
On Friday 15 May 2009, obregonma...@gmail.com wrote:
I want to have a counter (experiment) that uses roman numerals and
is sequential throughout the chapters. I figure that a module is the
right way about this, so I have a module with the following counter:
Yes. You have to use refstepcounter inside your \experimentSection
command. This increments the counter for you, and also sets the
reference string so that the next label will get the experiment number
instead of the section number. Note that \refstepcounter won't work
inside a \section command though. (latex limitation)
The whole module looks like this:
...
It can be slightly simplified:
#\DeclareLyXModule{testexperiment}
#This is a test!
AddToPreamble
\newcounter{experiment}\setcounter{experiment}{1}
\renewcommand{\theexperiment}{\textit{\Roman{experiment}}}
EndPreamble
## A new section style, for the correct printing of the experiment title
that also looks nice on the screen:
Style Experiment
CopyStyle Section
LatexName experimentSection
LabelType Counter
LabelString \thesection Experiment\theexperiment.
LabelCounter section
OptionalArgs 1
Font
Shape Italic
SizeLarge
EndFont
Preamble
\newcommand{\experimentSection}[1]{%
\section{\textit{Experiment \theexperiment. #1}}
\refstepcounter{experiment}
}
EndPreamble
End
And we also have to use \stepcounter _before_ the section,
so that the printed number won't be one too low.
...
I know of no way to set the reference string _without_ also incrementing
the counter. Such a command would make things simpler, but I don't think
it exists.
I just start the counter wiht 1 instead of 0, so it is correct
*before* \refstepcounter is applied.
I tried that during my testing, but the problem is that references to
any label inside such a experiment will be off by one!
See experiment 8 when the label is in experiment 7 is not useful.
Everything will seem fine as long as you don't use cross-references.
Helge Hafting
Re: Using counters
On 2009-05-18, Helge Hafting wrote:
> obregonma...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Friday 15 May 2009, obregonma...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> I want to have a counter (experiment) that uses roman numerals and
>>> is sequential throughout the chapters. I figure that a module is the
>>> right way about this, so I have a module with the following counter:
> Yes. You have to use refstepcounter inside your \experimentSection
> command. This increments the counter for you, and also sets the
> reference string so that the next label will get the experiment number
> instead of the section number. Note that \refstepcounter won't work
> inside a \section command though. (latex limitation)
> The whole module looks like this:
...
It can be slightly simplified:
#\DeclareLyXModule{testexperiment}
#This is a test!
AddToPreamble
\newcounter{experiment}\setcounter{experiment}{1}
\renewcommand{\theexperiment}{\textit{\Roman{experiment}}}
EndPreamble
## A new section style, for the correct printing of the experiment title
that also looks nice on the screen:
Style Experiment
CopyStyle Section
LatexName experimentSection
LabelType Counter
LabelString "\thesection Experiment\theexperiment."
LabelCounter section
OptionalArgs 1
Font
Shape Italic
SizeLarge
EndFont
Preamble
\newcommand{\experimentSection}[1]{%
\section{\textit{Experiment \theexperiment. #1}}
\refstepcounter{experiment}
}
EndPreamble
End
> And we also have to use \stepcounter _before_ the section,
> so that the printed number won't be one too low.
...
> I know of no way to set the reference string _without_ also incrementing
> the counter. Such a command would make things simpler, but I don't think
> it exists.
I just start the counter wiht 1 instead of 0, so it is correct
*before* \refstepcounter is applied.
...
> if you insert a label in the text following an experiment line, then any
> cross reference to that label will print the roman numeral for the
> experiment.
> If you put a label inside the experiment line itself, then cross
> references to that internal label will print the experiment's section
> number. So be careful how you place your labels!
Günter
Re: Using counters
Guenter Milde wrote:
On 2009-05-18, Helge Hafting wrote:
obregonma...@gmail.com wrote:
On Friday 15 May 2009, obregonma...@gmail.com wrote:
I want to have a counter (experiment) that uses roman numerals and
is sequential throughout the chapters. I figure that a module is the
right way about this, so I have a module with the following counter:
Yes. You have to use refstepcounter inside your \experimentSection
command. This increments the counter for you, and also sets the
reference string so that the next label will get the experiment number
instead of the section number. Note that \refstepcounter won't work
inside a \section command though. (latex limitation)
The whole module looks like this:
...
It can be slightly simplified:
#\DeclareLyXModule{testexperiment}
#This is a test!
AddToPreamble
\newcounter{experiment}\setcounter{experiment}{1}
\renewcommand{\theexperiment}{\textit{\Roman{experiment}}}
EndPreamble
## A new section style, for the correct printing of the experiment title
that also looks nice on the screen:
Style Experiment
CopyStyle Section
LatexName experimentSection
LabelType Counter
LabelString "\thesection Experiment\theexperiment."
LabelCounter section
OptionalArgs 1
Font
Shape Italic
SizeLarge
EndFont
Preamble
\newcommand{\experimentSection}[1]{%
\section{\textit{Experiment \theexperiment. #1}}
\refstepcounter{experiment}
}
EndPreamble
End
And we also have to use \stepcounter _before_ the section,
so that the printed number won't be one too low.
...
I know of no way to set the reference string _without_ also incrementing
the counter. Such a command would make things simpler, but I don't think
it exists.
I just start the counter wiht 1 instead of 0, so it is correct
*before* \refstepcounter is applied.
I tried that during my testing, but the problem is that references to
any label inside such a "experiment" will be off by one!
"See experiment 8" when the label is in "experiment 7" is not useful.
Everything will seem fine as long as you don't use cross-references.
Helge Hafting
Re: Using counters
Many thanks to all (especially Günter and Helge) for helping me solve this
issue of having different counters throughout a document. This has also helped
me understand how LyX behaviour has be coded to mirror the desired LaTeX
behaviour, and how the LyX modules design is so useful for this.
Perhaps we need a bit more documentation on how to use modules to set-up
specific behaviours in both LyX and LaTeX.
Cheers.
Mateo.
On Tuesday 19 May 2009, Helge Hafting wrote:
> Guenter Milde wrote:
> > On 2009-05-18, Helge Hafting wrote:
> >> obregonma...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>> On Friday 15 May 2009, obregonma...@gmail.com wrote:
> >
> I want to have a counter (experiment) that uses roman numerals and
> is sequential throughout the chapters. I figure that a module is the
> right way about this, so I have a module with the following counter:
> >
> >
> >> Yes. You have to use refstepcounter inside your \experimentSection
> >> command. This increments the counter for you, and also sets the
> >> reference string so that the next label will get the experiment number
> >> instead of the section number. Note that \refstepcounter won't work
> >> inside a \section command though. (latex limitation)
> >
> >> The whole module looks like this:
> >
> > ...
> >
> > It can be slightly simplified:
> >
> > #\DeclareLyXModule{testexperiment}
> > #This is a test!
> >
> > AddToPreamble
> > \newcounter{experiment}\setcounter{experiment}{1}
> > \renewcommand{\theexperiment}{\textit{\Roman{experiment}}}
> > EndPreamble
> >
> > ## A new section style, for the correct printing of the experiment title
> > that also looks nice on the screen:
> > Style Experiment
> > CopyStyle Section
> > LatexName experimentSection
> > LabelType Counter
> > LabelString "\thesection Experiment\theexperiment."
> > LabelCounter section
> > OptionalArgs 1
> > Font
> > Shape Italic
> > SizeLarge
> > EndFont
> > Preamble
> > \newcommand{\experimentSection}[1]{%
> > \section{\textit{Experiment \theexperiment. #1}}
> > \refstepcounter{experiment}
> > }
> > EndPreamble
> > End
> >
> >
> >> And we also have to use \stepcounter _before_ the section,
> >> so that the printed number won't be one too low.
> > ...
> >> I know of no way to set the reference string _without_ also incrementing
> >> the counter. Such a command would make things simpler, but I don't think
> >> it exists.
> >
> > I just start the counter wiht 1 instead of 0, so it is correct
> > *before* \refstepcounter is applied.
> >
> I tried that during my testing, but the problem is that references to
> any label inside such a "experiment" will be off by one!
>
> "See experiment 8" when the label is in "experiment 7" is not useful.
> Everything will seem fine as long as you don't use cross-references.
>
> Helge Hafting
>
Re: Using counters
obregonma...@gmail.com wrote:
On Friday 15 May 2009, obregonma...@gmail.com wrote:
We're getting close!
On Friday 15 May 2009, Guenter Milde wrote:
On 2009-05-15, obregonma...@gmail.com wrote:
On Friday 15 May 2009, Helge Hafting wrote:
obregonma...@gmail.com wrote:
I want to have a counter (experiment) that uses roman numerals and
is sequential throughout the chapters. I figure that a module is the
right way about this, so I have a module with the following counter:
3.2label expt:reading-ability Experiment I: Effect of reading ability
Counter experimentCounter
LabelString \Roman{experimentCounter}
Within
End
This sets up the Counter for LyX only, you need to set up a LaTex
counter as well.
Ah! That explains a lot.
So, I need to code this for TWO systems: (1) LyX (shown on the screen, with all
its handy tools); and (2) LaTeX (printed out correctly)!
I have not been able to get the two to happen at the same time. I can get the
correct solution with the following:
## LyX counter, in correct format:
Counter experimentCounter
LabelString \Roman{experimentCounter}
Within
End
## LaTeX counter, in correct format:
AddToPreamble
\newcounter{experiment}
\setcounter{experiment}{0}
\renewcommand{\theexperiment}{\textit{\Roman{experiment}}}
EndPreamble
## An LyX style, that just allows me to set a named label for the following
Experiment heading:
Style ExperimentLabel
CategorySection
LatexType Command
LatexName exptLabel
KeepEmpty 1
LabelType Counter
LeftMargin XLabel_for_experiment_XXX:XX
LabelString Label for experiment \theexperimentCounter:
LabelCounterexperimentCounter
OptionalArgs1
TopSep 1.4
Font
Shape Italic
Color red
SizeLarge
EndFont
Preamble
\newcommand{\exptLabel}[1]{%
\refstepcounter{experiment} #1}
EndPreamble
End
## A new section style, for the correct printing of the experiment title that
also looks nice on the screen:
Style Experiment
CopyStyle Section
LatexName experimentSection
LabelType Counter
LabelString \thesection Experiment \theexperimentCounter.
LabelCounter section
OptionalArgs 1
Font
Shape Italic
SizeLarge
EndFont
Preamble
\newcommand{\experimentSection}[1]{%
\section{\textit{Experiment \theexperiment. #1}}}
EndPreamble
End
===
It took me a long time to find the \refstepcounter{} latex command. It's the
only way that I've managed to change the label reference environment so that
the \label{exp:expt-name} takes the experiment counter value and not the
section counter value.
I don't mind that LyX doesn't show the experiment counter value on the screen,
but I do need to be able to use labels referring to the experiment counter. I
tried writing this latex command, but it doesn't work. Anyone know how to write
this function correctly?
\newcommand{\experimentSection}[1]{%
\section{\textit{Experiment \theexperiment.
{\refstepcounter{experiment} #1
Yes. You have to use refstepcounter inside your \experimentSection
command. This increments the counter for you, and also sets the
reference string so that the next label will get the experiment number
instead of the section number. Note that \refstepcounter won't work
inside a \section command though. (latex limitation)
The whole module looks like this:
#\DeclareLyXModule{testexperiment}
#This is a test!
Format 11
Counter experimentCounter
LabelString \Roman{experimentCounter}
Within
End
AddToPreamble
\newcounter{experiment}\setcounter{experiment}{0}
\renewcommand{\theexperiment}{\textit{\Roman{experiment}}}
EndPreamble
## A new section style, for the correct printing of the experiment title
that also looks nice on the screen:
Style Experiment
CopyStyle Section
LatexName experimentSection
LabelType Counter
LabelString \thesection Experiment\theexperiment.
LabelCounter section
OptionalArgs 1
Font
Shape Italic
SizeLarge
EndFont
Preamble
\newcommand{\experimentSection}[1]{%
\stepcounter{experiment}
\section{\textit{Experiment \theexperiment. #1}}
\addtocounter{experiment}{-1}
Re: Using counters
obregonma...@gmail.com wrote:
On Friday 15 May 2009, obregonma...@gmail.com wrote:
We're getting close!
On Friday 15 May 2009, Guenter Milde wrote:
On 2009-05-15, obregonma...@gmail.com wrote:
On Friday 15 May 2009, Helge Hafting wrote:
obregonma...@gmail.com wrote:
I want to have a counter (experiment) that uses roman numerals and
is sequential throughout the chapters. I figure that a module is the
right way about this, so I have a module with the following counter:
3.2label expt:reading-ability Experiment I: Effect of reading ability
Counter experimentCounter
LabelString \Roman{experimentCounter}
Within
End
This sets up the Counter for LyX only, you need to set up a LaTex
counter as well.
Ah! That explains a lot.
So, I need to code this for TWO systems: (1) LyX (shown on the screen, with all
its handy tools); and (2) LaTeX (printed out correctly)!
I have not been able to get the two to happen at the same time. I can get the
correct solution with the following:
## LyX counter, in correct format:
Counter experimentCounter
LabelString \Roman{experimentCounter}
Within
End
## LaTeX counter, in correct format:
AddToPreamble
\newcounter{experiment}
\setcounter{experiment}{0}
\renewcommand{\theexperiment}{\textit{\Roman{experiment}}}
EndPreamble
## An LyX style, that just allows me to set a named label for the following
Experiment heading:
Style ExperimentLabel
CategorySection
LatexType Command
LatexName exptLabel
KeepEmpty 1
LabelType Counter
LeftMargin XLabel_for_experiment_XXX:XX
LabelString Label for experiment \theexperimentCounter:
LabelCounterexperimentCounter
OptionalArgs1
TopSep 1.4
Font
Shape Italic
Color red
SizeLarge
EndFont
Preamble
\newcommand{\exptLabel}[1]{%
\refstepcounter{experiment} #1}
EndPreamble
End
## A new section style, for the correct printing of the experiment title that
also looks nice on the screen:
Style Experiment
CopyStyle Section
LatexName experimentSection
LabelType Counter
LabelString \thesection Experiment \theexperimentCounter.
LabelCounter section
OptionalArgs 1
Font
Shape Italic
SizeLarge
EndFont
Preamble
\newcommand{\experimentSection}[1]{%
\section{\textit{Experiment \theexperiment. #1}}}
EndPreamble
End
===
It took me a long time to find the \refstepcounter{} latex command. It's the
only way that I've managed to change the label reference environment so that
the \label{exp:expt-name} takes the experiment counter value and not the
section counter value.
I don't mind that LyX doesn't show the experiment counter value on the screen,
but I do need to be able to use labels referring to the experiment counter. I
tried writing this latex command, but it doesn't work. Anyone know how to write
this function correctly?
\newcommand{\experimentSection}[1]{%
\section{\textit{Experiment \theexperiment.
{\refstepcounter{experiment} #1
Yes. You have to use refstepcounter inside your \experimentSection
command. This increments the counter for you, and also sets the
reference string so that the next label will get the experiment number
instead of the section number. Note that \refstepcounter won't work
inside a \section command though. (latex limitation)
The whole module looks like this:
#\DeclareLyXModule{testexperiment}
#This is a test!
Format 11
Counter experimentCounter
LabelString \Roman{experimentCounter}
Within
End
AddToPreamble
\newcounter{experiment}\setcounter{experiment}{0}
\renewcommand{\theexperiment}{\textit{\Roman{experiment}}}
EndPreamble
## A new section style, for the correct printing of the experiment title
that also looks nice on the screen:
Style Experiment
CopyStyle Section
LatexName experimentSection
LabelType Counter
LabelString \thesection Experiment\theexperiment.
LabelCounter section
OptionalArgs 1
Font
Shape Italic
SizeLarge
EndFont
Preamble
\newcommand{\experimentSection}[1]{%
\stepcounter{experiment}
\section{\textit{Experiment \theexperiment. #1}}
\addtocounter{experiment}{-1}
Re: Using counters
obregonma...@gmail.com wrote:
On Friday 15 May 2009, obregonma...@gmail.com wrote:
We're getting close!
On Friday 15 May 2009, Guenter Milde wrote:
On 2009-05-15, obregonma...@gmail.com wrote:
On Friday 15 May 2009, Helge Hafting wrote:
obregonma...@gmail.com wrote:
I want to have a counter (experiment) that uses roman numerals and
is sequential throughout the chapters. I figure that a module is the
right way about this, so I have a module with the following counter:
3.2 Experiment I: Effect of reading ability
Counter experimentCounter
LabelString "\Roman{experimentCounter}"
Within ""
End
This sets up the Counter for LyX only, you need to set up a LaTex
counter as well.
Ah! That explains a lot.
So, I need to code this for TWO systems: (1) LyX (shown on the screen, with all
its handy tools); and (2) LaTeX (printed out correctly)!
I have not been able to get the two to happen at the same time. I can get the
correct solution with the following:
## LyX counter, in correct format:
Counter experimentCounter
LabelString "\Roman{experimentCounter}"
Within ""
End
## LaTeX counter, in correct format:
AddToPreamble
\newcounter{experiment}
\setcounter{experiment}{0}
\renewcommand{\theexperiment}{\textit{\Roman{experiment}}}
EndPreamble
## An LyX style, that just allows me to set a named label for the following
Experiment heading:
Style ExperimentLabel
CategorySection
LatexType Command
LatexName exptLabel
KeepEmpty 1
LabelType Counter
LeftMargin XLabel_for_experiment_XXX:XX
LabelString "Label for experiment \theexperimentCounter: "
LabelCounterexperimentCounter
OptionalArgs1
TopSep 1.4
Font
Shape Italic
Color red
SizeLarge
EndFont
Preamble
\newcommand{\exptLabel}[1]{%
\refstepcounter{experiment} #1}
EndPreamble
End
## A new section style, for the correct printing of the experiment title that
also looks nice on the screen:
Style Experiment
CopyStyle Section
LatexName experimentSection
LabelType Counter
LabelString "\thesection Experiment \theexperimentCounter."
LabelCounter section
OptionalArgs 1
Font
Shape Italic
SizeLarge
EndFont
Preamble
\newcommand{\experimentSection}[1]{%
\section{\textit{Experiment \theexperiment. #1}}}
EndPreamble
End
===
It took me a long time to find the \refstepcounter{} latex command. It's the
only way that I've managed to change the label reference environment so that
the \label{exp:expt-name} takes the experiment counter value and not the
section counter value.
I don't mind that LyX doesn't show the experiment counter value on the screen,
but I do need to be able to use labels referring to the experiment counter. I
tried writing this latex command, but it doesn't work. Anyone know how to write
this function correctly?
\newcommand{\experimentSection}[1]{%
\section{\textit{Experiment \theexperiment.
{\refstepcounter{experiment} #1
Yes. You have to use refstepcounter inside your \experimentSection
command. This increments the counter for you, and also sets the
reference string so that the next label will get the experiment number
instead of the section number. Note that \refstepcounter won't work
inside a \section command though. (latex limitation)
The whole module looks like this:
#\DeclareLyXModule{testexperiment}
#This is a test!
Format 11
Counter experimentCounter
LabelString "\Roman{experimentCounter}"
Within ""
End
AddToPreamble
\newcounter{experiment}\setcounter{experiment}{0}
\renewcommand{\theexperiment}{\textit{\Roman{experiment}}}
EndPreamble
## A new section style, for the correct printing of the experiment title
that also looks nice on the screen:
Style Experiment
CopyStyle Section
LatexName experimentSection
LabelType Counter
LabelString "\thesection Experiment\theexperiment."
LabelCounter section
OptionalArgs 1
Font
Shape Italic
SizeLarge
EndFont
Preamble
\newcommand{\experimentSection}[1]{%
\stepcounter{experiment}
\section{\textit{Experiment \theexperiment. #1}}
\addtocounter{experiment}{-1}
Re: Using counters
On Friday 15 May 2009, obregonma...@gmail.com wrote:
We're getting close!
On Friday 15 May 2009, Guenter Milde wrote:
On 2009-05-15, obregonma...@gmail.com wrote:
On Friday 15 May 2009, Helge Hafting wrote:
obregonma...@gmail.com wrote:
I want to have a counter (experiment) that uses roman numerals and
is sequential throughout the chapters. I figure that a module is the
right way about this, so I have a module with the following counter:
3.2label expt:reading-ability Experiment I: Effect of reading
ability
Counter experimentCounter
LabelString \Roman{experimentCounter}
Within
End
This sets up the Counter for LyX only, you need to set up a LaTex
counter as well.
Ah! That explains a lot.
So, I need to code this for TWO systems: (1) LyX (shown on the screen, with all
its handy tools); and (2) LaTeX (printed out correctly)!
I have not been able to get the two to happen at the same time. I can get the
correct solution with the following:
## LyX counter, in correct format:
Counter experimentCounter
LabelString \Roman{experimentCounter}
Within
End
## LaTeX counter, in correct format:
AddToPreamble
\newcounter{experiment}
\setcounter{experiment}{0}
\renewcommand{\theexperiment}{\textit{\Roman{experiment}}}
EndPreamble
## An LyX style, that just allows me to set a named label for the following
Experiment heading:
Style ExperimentLabel
CategorySection
LatexType Command
LatexName exptLabel
KeepEmpty 1
LabelType Counter
LeftMargin XLabel_for_experiment_XXX:XX
LabelString Label for experiment \theexperimentCounter:
LabelCounterexperimentCounter
OptionalArgs1
TopSep 1.4
Font
Shape Italic
Color red
SizeLarge
EndFont
Preamble
\newcommand{\exptLabel}[1]{%
\refstepcounter{experiment} #1}
EndPreamble
End
## A new section style, for the correct printing of the experiment title that
also looks nice on the screen:
Style Experiment
CopyStyle Section
LatexName experimentSection
LabelType Counter
LabelString \thesection Experiment \theexperimentCounter.
LabelCounter section
OptionalArgs 1
Font
Shape Italic
SizeLarge
EndFont
Preamble
\newcommand{\experimentSection}[1]{%
\section{\textit{Experiment \theexperiment. #1}}}
EndPreamble
End
===
It took me a long time to find the \refstepcounter{} latex command. It's the
only way that I've managed to change the label reference environment so that
the \label{exp:expt-name} takes the experiment counter value and not the
section counter value.
I don't mind that LyX doesn't show the experiment counter value on the screen,
but I do need to be able to use labels referring to the experiment counter. I
tried writing this latex command, but it doesn't work. Anyone know how to write
this function correctly?
\newcommand{\experimentSection}[1]{%
\section{\textit{Experiment \theexperiment.
{\refstepcounter{experiment} #1
Thanks.
Mateo.
Re: Using counters
On Friday 15 May 2009, obregonma...@gmail.com wrote:
We're getting close!
On Friday 15 May 2009, Guenter Milde wrote:
On 2009-05-15, obregonma...@gmail.com wrote:
On Friday 15 May 2009, Helge Hafting wrote:
obregonma...@gmail.com wrote:
I want to have a counter (experiment) that uses roman numerals and
is sequential throughout the chapters. I figure that a module is the
right way about this, so I have a module with the following counter:
3.2label expt:reading-ability Experiment I: Effect of reading
ability
Counter experimentCounter
LabelString \Roman{experimentCounter}
Within
End
This sets up the Counter for LyX only, you need to set up a LaTex
counter as well.
Ah! That explains a lot.
So, I need to code this for TWO systems: (1) LyX (shown on the screen, with all
its handy tools); and (2) LaTeX (printed out correctly)!
I have not been able to get the two to happen at the same time. I can get the
correct solution with the following:
## LyX counter, in correct format:
Counter experimentCounter
LabelString \Roman{experimentCounter}
Within
End
## LaTeX counter, in correct format:
AddToPreamble
\newcounter{experiment}
\setcounter{experiment}{0}
\renewcommand{\theexperiment}{\textit{\Roman{experiment}}}
EndPreamble
## An LyX style, that just allows me to set a named label for the following
Experiment heading:
Style ExperimentLabel
CategorySection
LatexType Command
LatexName exptLabel
KeepEmpty 1
LabelType Counter
LeftMargin XLabel_for_experiment_XXX:XX
LabelString Label for experiment \theexperimentCounter:
LabelCounterexperimentCounter
OptionalArgs1
TopSep 1.4
Font
Shape Italic
Color red
SizeLarge
EndFont
Preamble
\newcommand{\exptLabel}[1]{%
\refstepcounter{experiment} #1}
EndPreamble
End
## A new section style, for the correct printing of the experiment title that
also looks nice on the screen:
Style Experiment
CopyStyle Section
LatexName experimentSection
LabelType Counter
LabelString \thesection Experiment \theexperimentCounter.
LabelCounter section
OptionalArgs 1
Font
Shape Italic
SizeLarge
EndFont
Preamble
\newcommand{\experimentSection}[1]{%
\section{\textit{Experiment \theexperiment. #1}}}
EndPreamble
End
===
It took me a long time to find the \refstepcounter{} latex command. It's the
only way that I've managed to change the label reference environment so that
the \label{exp:expt-name} takes the experiment counter value and not the
section counter value.
I don't mind that LyX doesn't show the experiment counter value on the screen,
but I do need to be able to use labels referring to the experiment counter. I
tried writing this latex command, but it doesn't work. Anyone know how to write
this function correctly?
\newcommand{\experimentSection}[1]{%
\section{\textit{Experiment \theexperiment.
{\refstepcounter{experiment} #1
Thanks.
Mateo.
Re: Using counters
On Friday 15 May 2009, obregonma...@gmail.com wrote:
> We're getting close!
>
> On Friday 15 May 2009, Guenter Milde wrote:
> > On 2009-05-15, obregonma...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Friday 15 May 2009, Helge Hafting wrote:
> > >> obregonma...@gmail.com wrote:
> >
> > >> > I want to have a counter (experiment) that uses roman numerals and
> > >> > is sequential throughout the chapters. I figure that a module is the
> > >> > right way about this, so I have a module with the following counter:
>
> > >> > 3.2 Experiment I: Effect of reading
> > >> > ability
>
> > > Counter experimentCounter
> > > LabelString "\Roman{experimentCounter}"
> > > Within ""
> > > End
> >
> > This sets up the Counter for LyX only, you need to set up a LaTex
> > counter as well.
>
> Ah! That explains a lot.
>
So, I need to code this for TWO systems: (1) LyX (shown on the screen, with all
its handy tools); and (2) LaTeX (printed out correctly)!
I have not been able to get the two to happen at the same time. I can get the
correct solution with the following:
## LyX counter, in correct format:
Counter experimentCounter
LabelString "\Roman{experimentCounter}"
Within ""
End
## LaTeX counter, in correct format:
AddToPreamble
\newcounter{experiment}
\setcounter{experiment}{0}
\renewcommand{\theexperiment}{\textit{\Roman{experiment}}}
EndPreamble
## An LyX style, that just allows me to set a named label for the following
Experiment heading:
Style ExperimentLabel
CategorySection
LatexType Command
LatexName exptLabel
KeepEmpty 1
LabelType Counter
LeftMargin XLabel_for_experiment_XXX:XX
LabelString "Label for experiment \theexperimentCounter: "
LabelCounterexperimentCounter
OptionalArgs1
TopSep 1.4
Font
Shape Italic
Color red
SizeLarge
EndFont
Preamble
\newcommand{\exptLabel}[1]{%
\refstepcounter{experiment} #1}
EndPreamble
End
## A new section style, for the correct printing of the experiment title that
also looks nice on the screen:
Style Experiment
CopyStyle Section
LatexName experimentSection
LabelType Counter
LabelString "\thesection Experiment \theexperimentCounter."
LabelCounter section
OptionalArgs 1
Font
Shape Italic
SizeLarge
EndFont
Preamble
\newcommand{\experimentSection}[1]{%
\section{\textit{Experiment \theexperiment. #1}}}
EndPreamble
End
===
It took me a long time to find the \refstepcounter{} latex command. It's the
only way that I've managed to change the label reference environment so that
the \label{exp:expt-name} takes the experiment counter value and not the
section counter value.
I don't mind that LyX doesn't show the experiment counter value on the screen,
but I do need to be able to use labels referring to the experiment counter. I
tried writing this latex command, but it doesn't work. Anyone know how to write
this function correctly?
\newcommand{\experimentSection}[1]{%
\section{\textit{Experiment \theexperiment.
{\refstepcounter{experiment} #1
Thanks.
Mateo.
Re: Using counters
obregonma...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi everyone-
I've gone through the docs, wikis and examples, and I need a helping hand.
I want to have a counter (experiment) that uses roman numerals and is
sequential throughout the chapters. I figure that a module is the right way
about this, so I have a module with the following counter:
Counter experimentCounter
LabelString \Roman{experimentCounter}
Within
End
Now, what I want is a section heading that would look like:
3.2label expt:reading-ability Experiment I: Effect of reading ability
and then later on:
3.6 label expt:age-predictor Experiment II: Age as a predictor
and then ...
4.2 label expt:reading-aids Experiment III: Reading aids
How can I use my experimentCounter in a section title, as well as assign a label to this experiment item (NOT the section number)? I imagine that it would require an ERT ... but with what LaTeX command?
Sure, this can be done with some ERT.
But if you're making a module anyway, why not implement this too in the
module?
Basically, you create a new experiment-section that contains all the
stuff from a regular section ( copy it out of stdsections.inc, or use
CopyStyle Section and take it from there.) And then you add the
necessary latex code, once. Instead of having to add it as ERT to
every experiment in your text.
So when you start a new experiment, you use experiment-section instead
of a regular section. I am not sure if you can get LyX to display the
experiment counter in the edit window, as incrementing two counters at
once is a bit unusual. But it should definitely work for output!
As for the actual latex code needed to increment and display the
counter, I don't have time to look that up right now. Look for
examples on the net, or borrow one of the recommended latex books at
a library.
Helge Hafting
Re: Using counters
On Friday 15 May 2009, Helge Hafting wrote:
obregonma...@gmail.com wrote:
I've gone through the docs, wikis and examples, and I need a helping hand.
I want to have a counter (experiment) that uses roman numerals and is
sequential throughout the chapters. I figure that a module is the right way
about this, so I have a module with the following counter:
Counter experimentCounter
LabelString \Roman{experimentCounter}
Within
End
Now, what I want is a section heading that would look like:
3.2label expt:reading-ability Experiment I: Effect of reading ability
and then later on:
3.6 label expt:age-predictor Experiment II: Age as a predictor
and then ...
4.2 label expt:reading-aids Experiment III: Reading aids
How can I use my experimentCounter in a section title, as well as assign
a label to this experiment item (NOT the section number)? I imagine that it
would require an ERT ... but with what LaTeX command?
Basically, you create a new experiment-section that contains all the
stuff from a regular section ( copy it out of stdsections.inc, or use
CopyStyle Section and take it from there.) And then you add the
necessary latex code, once. Instead of having to add it as ERT to
every experiment in your text.
So when you start a new experiment, you use experiment-section instead
of a regular section. I am not sure if you can get LyX to display the
experiment counter in the edit window, as incrementing two counters at
once is a bit unusual. But it should definitely work for output!
I can get LyX to display a modified section very nicely, but I cannot get latex
to show me a modified experiment-section.
As for the actual latex code needed to increment and display the
counter, I don't have time to look that up right now. Look for
examples on the net, or borrow one of the recommended latex books at
a library.
I am at a loss for the latex commands. I don't want to start learning the
complexities of LaTeX macro writings just to modify a section title. I looked
at the sectsty.sty and titlesec.sty documentation and found them not to be of
help. One changes all sections and the other you have to know a lot of LaTex. I
simply want something like this, so that I have both the normal section counter
and my special experimentCounter counter:
Counter experimentCounter
LabelString \Roman{experimentCounter}
Within
End
Style Experiment
CopyStyle Section
LatexName experiment-section
LabelType Counter
LabelString Experiment \theexperimentCounter.
LabelCounter section, experimentCounter
Font
Series Italic
SizeLarge
EndFont
Preamble
\newcommand{\experiment-section}[1]{%
\section{Experiment \theexperimentCounter. #1}}
EndPreamble
End
But, latex gives errors that I don't understand.
Re: Using counters
On 2009-05-15, obregonma...@gmail.com wrote:
On Friday 15 May 2009, Helge Hafting wrote:
obregonma...@gmail.com wrote:
I want to have a counter (experiment) that uses roman numerals and
is sequential throughout the chapters. I figure that a module is the
right way about this, so I have a module with the following counter:
Counter experimentCounter
LabelString \Roman{experimentCounter}
Within
End
Now, what I want is a section heading that would look like:
3.2label expt:reading-ability Experiment I: Effect of reading ability
and then later on:
3.6 label expt:age-predictor Experiment II: Age as a predictor
and then ...
4.2 label expt:reading-aids Experiment III: Reading aids
How can I use my experimentCounter in a section title, as well as
assign a label to this experiment item (NOT the section number)? I
imagine that it would require an ERT ... but with what LaTeX
command?
Basically, you create a new experiment-section [...] And then you add
the necessary latex code, once. Instead of having to add it as ERT to
every experiment in your text.
I can get LyX to display a modified section very nicely, but I cannot
get latex to show me a modified experiment-section.
...
I am at a loss for the latex commands. I don't want to start learning
the complexities of LaTeX macro writings just to modify a section
title.
In this case you might consider typing the Experiment number by hand...
I simply want something like this, so that I have both the normal
section counter and my special experimentCounter counter:
Counter experimentCounter
LabelString \Roman{experimentCounter}
Within
End
This sets up the Counter for LyX only, you need to set up a LaTex
counter as well.
AddToPreamble
\newcounter{experiment}
\setcounter{experiment}{0}
EndPreamble
Style Experiment
CopyStyle Section
LatexName experiment-section
LabelType Counter
LabelString Experiment \theexperimentCounter.
LabelCountersection, experimentCounter
Font
Series Italic
SizeLarge
EndFont
Preamble
\newcommand{\experiment-section}[1]{%
\section{Experiment \theexperimentCounter. #1}}
EndPreamble
End
But, latex gives errors that I don't understand.
But only if you post them here, we can help!
1. LaTeX macro names with hyphens are not strictly forbidden but only
accessible with the \csname ... \endcsname construct.
Use e.g. \experimentSection
2. As already said, you need to set up the counter for LaTeX as well.
3. You need to increment the counter in LaTeX
4. You need to convert the counter to Roman in LaTeX
Maybe this works, but it is untested:
\newcommand{\experimentSection}[1]{%
\stepcounter{experiment}
\section{Experiment \Roman{experiment}. #1}%
}
Günter
Re: Using counters
We're getting close!
On Friday 15 May 2009, Guenter Milde wrote:
On 2009-05-15, obregonma...@gmail.com wrote:
On Friday 15 May 2009, Helge Hafting wrote:
obregonma...@gmail.com wrote:
I want to have a counter (experiment) that uses roman numerals and
is sequential throughout the chapters. I figure that a module is the
right way about this, so I have a module with the following counter:
3.2label expt:reading-ability Experiment I: Effect of reading
ability
I am at a loss for the latex commands. I don't want to start learning
the complexities of LaTeX macro writings just to modify a section
title.
In this case you might consider typing the Experiment number by hand...
I have considered this ... but I'm convinced that there is a better way, as I
have 10 experiment to report and refer to throughout my long document.
Counter experimentCounter
LabelString \Roman{experimentCounter}
Within
End
This sets up the Counter for LyX only, you need to set up a LaTex
counter as well.
Ah! That explains a lot.
AddToPreamble
\newcounter{experiment}
\setcounter{experiment}{0}
EndPreamble
Progress. :)
Maybe this works, but it is untested:
\newcommand{\experimentSection}[1]{%
\stepcounter{experiment}
\section{Experiment \Roman{experiment}. #1}%
}
Yes, the correct section label is generated by latex. And, I've modified the
LyX Experiment style to show me something workable too (\theexperimentCounter
below just gives me ?? in the document).
Style Experiment
CopyStyle Section
LatexName experimentSection
LabelType Counter
LabelString \thesection Experiment \theexperimentCounter.
LabelCounter section
Font
Shape Italic
SizeLarge
EndFont
Preamble
\newcommand{\experimentSection}[1]{%
\stepcounter{experiment}
\section{\textit{Experiment \Roman{experiment}. #1}}%
}
EndPreamble
End
Now, I need a way to create a label in LyX that refers to value of the
experiment counter. This way, I can refer to the different experiments in
text by label (and page, etc).
Thanks Guenter for your help so far. I hope you have a solution for this
question too.
Mateo.
Re: Using counters
obregonma...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi everyone-
I've gone through the docs, wikis and examples, and I need a helping hand.
I want to have a counter (experiment) that uses roman numerals and is
sequential throughout the chapters. I figure that a module is the right way
about this, so I have a module with the following counter:
Counter experimentCounter
LabelString \Roman{experimentCounter}
Within
End
Now, what I want is a section heading that would look like:
3.2label expt:reading-ability Experiment I: Effect of reading ability
and then later on:
3.6 label expt:age-predictor Experiment II: Age as a predictor
and then ...
4.2 label expt:reading-aids Experiment III: Reading aids
How can I use my experimentCounter in a section title, as well as assign a label to this experiment item (NOT the section number)? I imagine that it would require an ERT ... but with what LaTeX command?
Sure, this can be done with some ERT.
But if you're making a module anyway, why not implement this too in the
module?
Basically, you create a new experiment-section that contains all the
stuff from a regular section ( copy it out of stdsections.inc, or use
CopyStyle Section and take it from there.) And then you add the
necessary latex code, once. Instead of having to add it as ERT to
every experiment in your text.
So when you start a new experiment, you use experiment-section instead
of a regular section. I am not sure if you can get LyX to display the
experiment counter in the edit window, as incrementing two counters at
once is a bit unusual. But it should definitely work for output!
As for the actual latex code needed to increment and display the
counter, I don't have time to look that up right now. Look for
examples on the net, or borrow one of the recommended latex books at
a library.
Helge Hafting
Re: Using counters
On Friday 15 May 2009, Helge Hafting wrote:
obregonma...@gmail.com wrote:
I've gone through the docs, wikis and examples, and I need a helping hand.
I want to have a counter (experiment) that uses roman numerals and is
sequential throughout the chapters. I figure that a module is the right way
about this, so I have a module with the following counter:
Counter experimentCounter
LabelString \Roman{experimentCounter}
Within
End
Now, what I want is a section heading that would look like:
3.2label expt:reading-ability Experiment I: Effect of reading ability
and then later on:
3.6 label expt:age-predictor Experiment II: Age as a predictor
and then ...
4.2 label expt:reading-aids Experiment III: Reading aids
How can I use my experimentCounter in a section title, as well as assign
a label to this experiment item (NOT the section number)? I imagine that it
would require an ERT ... but with what LaTeX command?
Basically, you create a new experiment-section that contains all the
stuff from a regular section ( copy it out of stdsections.inc, or use
CopyStyle Section and take it from there.) And then you add the
necessary latex code, once. Instead of having to add it as ERT to
every experiment in your text.
So when you start a new experiment, you use experiment-section instead
of a regular section. I am not sure if you can get LyX to display the
experiment counter in the edit window, as incrementing two counters at
once is a bit unusual. But it should definitely work for output!
I can get LyX to display a modified section very nicely, but I cannot get latex
to show me a modified experiment-section.
As for the actual latex code needed to increment and display the
counter, I don't have time to look that up right now. Look for
examples on the net, or borrow one of the recommended latex books at
a library.
I am at a loss for the latex commands. I don't want to start learning the
complexities of LaTeX macro writings just to modify a section title. I looked
at the sectsty.sty and titlesec.sty documentation and found them not to be of
help. One changes all sections and the other you have to know a lot of LaTex. I
simply want something like this, so that I have both the normal section counter
and my special experimentCounter counter:
Counter experimentCounter
LabelString \Roman{experimentCounter}
Within
End
Style Experiment
CopyStyle Section
LatexName experiment-section
LabelType Counter
LabelString Experiment \theexperimentCounter.
LabelCounter section, experimentCounter
Font
Series Italic
SizeLarge
EndFont
Preamble
\newcommand{\experiment-section}[1]{%
\section{Experiment \theexperimentCounter. #1}}
EndPreamble
End
But, latex gives errors that I don't understand.
Re: Using counters
On 2009-05-15, obregonma...@gmail.com wrote:
On Friday 15 May 2009, Helge Hafting wrote:
obregonma...@gmail.com wrote:
I want to have a counter (experiment) that uses roman numerals and
is sequential throughout the chapters. I figure that a module is the
right way about this, so I have a module with the following counter:
Counter experimentCounter
LabelString \Roman{experimentCounter}
Within
End
Now, what I want is a section heading that would look like:
3.2label expt:reading-ability Experiment I: Effect of reading ability
and then later on:
3.6 label expt:age-predictor Experiment II: Age as a predictor
and then ...
4.2 label expt:reading-aids Experiment III: Reading aids
How can I use my experimentCounter in a section title, as well as
assign a label to this experiment item (NOT the section number)? I
imagine that it would require an ERT ... but with what LaTeX
command?
Basically, you create a new experiment-section [...] And then you add
the necessary latex code, once. Instead of having to add it as ERT to
every experiment in your text.
I can get LyX to display a modified section very nicely, but I cannot
get latex to show me a modified experiment-section.
...
I am at a loss for the latex commands. I don't want to start learning
the complexities of LaTeX macro writings just to modify a section
title.
In this case you might consider typing the Experiment number by hand...
I simply want something like this, so that I have both the normal
section counter and my special experimentCounter counter:
Counter experimentCounter
LabelString \Roman{experimentCounter}
Within
End
This sets up the Counter for LyX only, you need to set up a LaTex
counter as well.
AddToPreamble
\newcounter{experiment}
\setcounter{experiment}{0}
EndPreamble
Style Experiment
CopyStyle Section
LatexName experiment-section
LabelType Counter
LabelString Experiment \theexperimentCounter.
LabelCountersection, experimentCounter
Font
Series Italic
SizeLarge
EndFont
Preamble
\newcommand{\experiment-section}[1]{%
\section{Experiment \theexperimentCounter. #1}}
EndPreamble
End
But, latex gives errors that I don't understand.
But only if you post them here, we can help!
1. LaTeX macro names with hyphens are not strictly forbidden but only
accessible with the \csname ... \endcsname construct.
Use e.g. \experimentSection
2. As already said, you need to set up the counter for LaTeX as well.
3. You need to increment the counter in LaTeX
4. You need to convert the counter to Roman in LaTeX
Maybe this works, but it is untested:
\newcommand{\experimentSection}[1]{%
\stepcounter{experiment}
\section{Experiment \Roman{experiment}. #1}%
}
Günter
Re: Using counters
We're getting close!
On Friday 15 May 2009, Guenter Milde wrote:
On 2009-05-15, obregonma...@gmail.com wrote:
On Friday 15 May 2009, Helge Hafting wrote:
obregonma...@gmail.com wrote:
I want to have a counter (experiment) that uses roman numerals and
is sequential throughout the chapters. I figure that a module is the
right way about this, so I have a module with the following counter:
3.2label expt:reading-ability Experiment I: Effect of reading
ability
I am at a loss for the latex commands. I don't want to start learning
the complexities of LaTeX macro writings just to modify a section
title.
In this case you might consider typing the Experiment number by hand...
I have considered this ... but I'm convinced that there is a better way, as I
have 10 experiment to report and refer to throughout my long document.
Counter experimentCounter
LabelString \Roman{experimentCounter}
Within
End
This sets up the Counter for LyX only, you need to set up a LaTex
counter as well.
Ah! That explains a lot.
AddToPreamble
\newcounter{experiment}
\setcounter{experiment}{0}
EndPreamble
Progress. :)
Maybe this works, but it is untested:
\newcommand{\experimentSection}[1]{%
\stepcounter{experiment}
\section{Experiment \Roman{experiment}. #1}%
}
Yes, the correct section label is generated by latex. And, I've modified the
LyX Experiment style to show me something workable too (\theexperimentCounter
below just gives me ?? in the document).
Style Experiment
CopyStyle Section
LatexName experimentSection
LabelType Counter
LabelString \thesection Experiment \theexperimentCounter.
LabelCounter section
Font
Shape Italic
SizeLarge
EndFont
Preamble
\newcommand{\experimentSection}[1]{%
\stepcounter{experiment}
\section{\textit{Experiment \Roman{experiment}. #1}}%
}
EndPreamble
End
Now, I need a way to create a label in LyX that refers to value of the
experiment counter. This way, I can refer to the different experiments in
text by label (and page, etc).
Thanks Guenter for your help so far. I hope you have a solution for this
question too.
Mateo.
Re: Using counters
obregonma...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi everyone-
I've gone through the docs, wikis and examples, and I need a helping hand.
I want to have a counter (experiment) that uses roman numerals and is
sequential throughout the chapters. I figure that a module is the right way
about this, so I have a module with the following counter:
Counter experimentCounter
LabelString "\Roman{experimentCounter}"
Within ""
End
Now, what I want is a section heading that would look like:
3.2 Experiment I: Effect of reading ability
and then later on:
3.6Experiment II: Age as a predictor
and then ...
4.2Experiment III: Reading aids
How can I use my "experimentCounter" in a section title, as well as assign a label to this experiment item (NOT the section number)? I imagine that it would require an ERT ... but with what LaTeX command?
Sure, this can be done with some ERT.
But if you're making a module anyway, why not implement this too in the
module?
Basically, you create a new "experiment-section" that contains all the
stuff from a regular "section" ( copy it out of stdsections.inc, or use
"CopyStyle Section" and take it from there.) And then you add the
necessary latex code, once. Instead of having to add it as ERT to
every experiment in your text.
So when you start a new experiment, you use "experiment-section" instead
of a regular section. I am not sure if you can get LyX to display the
experiment counter in the edit window, as incrementing two counters at
once is a bit unusual. But it should definitely work for output!
As for the actual latex code needed to increment and display the
counter, I don't have time to look that up right now. Look for
examples on the net, or borrow one of the recommended latex books at
a library.
Helge Hafting
Re: Using counters
On Friday 15 May 2009, Helge Hafting wrote:
> obregonma...@gmail.com wrote:
> > I've gone through the docs, wikis and examples, and I need a helping hand.
> >
> > I want to have a counter (experiment) that uses roman numerals and is
> > sequential throughout the chapters. I figure that a module is the right way
> > about this, so I have a module with the following counter:
> >
> > Counter experimentCounter
> > LabelString "\Roman{experimentCounter}"
> > Within ""
> > End
> >
> > Now, what I want is a section heading that would look like:
> >
> > 3.2 Experiment I: Effect of reading ability
> >
> > and then later on:
> >
> > 3.6Experiment II: Age as a predictor
> >
> > and then ...
> >
> > 4.2Experiment III: Reading aids
> >
> >
> >
> > How can I use my "experimentCounter" in a section title, as well as assign
> > a label to this experiment item (NOT the section number)? I imagine that it
> > would require an ERT ... but with what LaTeX command?
> >
>
> Basically, you create a new "experiment-section" that contains all the
> stuff from a regular "section" ( copy it out of stdsections.inc, or use
> "CopyStyle Section" and take it from there.) And then you add the
> necessary latex code, once. Instead of having to add it as ERT to
> every experiment in your text.
>
> So when you start a new experiment, you use "experiment-section" instead
> of a regular section. I am not sure if you can get LyX to display the
> experiment counter in the edit window, as incrementing two counters at
> once is a bit unusual. But it should definitely work for output!
I can get LyX to display a modified section very nicely, but I cannot get latex
to show me a modified experiment-section.
> As for the actual latex code needed to increment and display the
> counter, I don't have time to look that up right now. Look for
> examples on the net, or borrow one of the recommended latex books at
> a library.
I am at a loss for the latex commands. I don't want to start learning the
complexities of LaTeX macro writings just to modify a section title. I looked
at the sectsty.sty and titlesec.sty documentation and found them not to be of
help. One changes all sections and the other you have to know a lot of LaTex. I
simply want something like this, so that I have both the normal section counter
and my special experimentCounter counter:
Counter experimentCounter
LabelString "\Roman{experimentCounter}"
Within ""
End
Style Experiment
CopyStyle Section
LatexName experiment-section
LabelType Counter
LabelString "Experiment \theexperimentCounter."
LabelCounter section, experimentCounter
Font
Series Italic
SizeLarge
EndFont
Preamble
\newcommand{\experiment-section}[1]{%
\section{Experiment \theexperimentCounter. #1}}
EndPreamble
End
But, latex gives errors that I don't understand.
Re: Using counters
On 2009-05-15, obregonma...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday 15 May 2009, Helge Hafting wrote:
>> obregonma...@gmail.com wrote:
>> > I want to have a counter (experiment) that uses roman numerals and
>> > is sequential throughout the chapters. I figure that a module is the
>> > right way about this, so I have a module with the following counter:
>> >
>> > Counter experimentCounter
>> >LabelString "\Roman{experimentCounter}"
>> >Within ""
>> > End
>> >
>> > Now, what I want is a section heading that would look like:
>> >
>> > 3.2 Experiment I: Effect of reading ability
>> >
>> > and then later on:
>> >
>> > 3.6Experiment II: Age as a predictor
>> >
>> > and then ...
>> >
>> > 4.2Experiment III: Reading aids
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > How can I use my "experimentCounter" in a section title, as well as
>> > assign a label to this experiment item (NOT the section number)? I
>> > imagine that it would require an ERT ... but with what LaTeX
>> > command?
>> Basically, you create a new "experiment-section" [...] And then you add
>> the necessary latex code, once. Instead of having to add it as ERT to
>> every experiment in your text.
> I can get LyX to display a modified section very nicely, but I cannot
> get latex to show me a modified experiment-section.
...
> I am at a loss for the latex commands. I don't want to start learning
> the complexities of LaTeX macro writings just to modify a section
> title.
In this case you might consider typing the Experiment number by hand...
> I simply want something like this, so that I have both the normal
> section counter and my special experimentCounter counter:
> Counter experimentCounter
> LabelString "\Roman{experimentCounter}"
> Within ""
> End
This sets up the Counter for LyX only, you need to set up a LaTex
counter as well.
AddToPreamble
\newcounter{experiment}
\setcounter{experiment}{0}
EndPreamble
> Style Experiment
> CopyStyle Section
> LatexName experiment-section
> LabelType Counter
> LabelString "Experiment \theexperimentCounter."
> LabelCountersection, experimentCounter
> Font
> Series Italic
> SizeLarge
> EndFont
> Preamble
> \newcommand{\experiment-section}[1]{%
> \section{Experiment \theexperimentCounter. #1}}
> EndPreamble
> End
> But, latex gives errors that I don't understand.
But only if you post them here, we can help!
1. LaTeX macro names with hyphens are not strictly forbidden but only
accessible with the \csname ... \endcsname construct.
Use e.g. \experimentSection
2. As already said, you need to set up the counter for LaTeX as well.
3. You need to increment the counter in LaTeX
4. You need to convert the counter to Roman in LaTeX
Maybe this works, but it is untested:
\newcommand{\experimentSection}[1]{%
\stepcounter{experiment}
\section{Experiment \Roman{experiment}. #1}%
}
Günter
Re: Using counters
We're getting close!
On Friday 15 May 2009, Guenter Milde wrote:
> On 2009-05-15, obregonma...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Friday 15 May 2009, Helge Hafting wrote:
> >> obregonma...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> >> > I want to have a counter (experiment) that uses roman numerals and
> >> > is sequential throughout the chapters. I figure that a module is the
> >> > right way about this, so I have a module with the following counter:
> >> > 3.2 Experiment I: Effect of reading
> >> > ability
>
> > I am at a loss for the latex commands. I don't want to start learning
> > the complexities of LaTeX macro writings just to modify a section
> > title.
>
> In this case you might consider typing the Experiment number by hand...
I have considered this ... but I'm convinced that there is a better way, as I
have 10 experiment to report and refer to throughout my long document.
> > Counter experimentCounter
> > LabelString "\Roman{experimentCounter}"
> > Within ""
> > End
>
> This sets up the Counter for LyX only, you need to set up a LaTex
> counter as well.
Ah! That explains a lot.
> AddToPreamble
> \newcounter{experiment}
> \setcounter{experiment}{0}
> EndPreamble
Progress. :)
> Maybe this works, but it is untested:
>
> \newcommand{\experimentSection}[1]{%
> \stepcounter{experiment}
> \section{Experiment \Roman{experiment}. #1}%
> }
Yes, the correct section label is generated by latex. And, I've modified the
LyX Experiment style to show me something workable too ("\theexperimentCounter"
below just gives me "??" in the document).
Style Experiment
CopyStyle Section
LatexName experimentSection
LabelType Counter
LabelString "\thesection Experiment \theexperimentCounter."
LabelCounter section
Font
Shape Italic
SizeLarge
EndFont
Preamble
\newcommand{\experimentSection}[1]{%
\stepcounter{experiment}
\section{\textit{Experiment \Roman{experiment}. #1}}%
}
EndPreamble
End
Now, I need a way to create a label in LyX that refers to value of the
"experiment" counter. This way, I can refer to the different experiments in
text by label (and page, etc).
Thanks Guenter for your help so far. I hope you have a solution for this
question too.
Mateo.
