Re: bibtex my.bst

2006-06-26 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann

 
  but how do I make changes in the dbj file effective (I want to avoid
  running the latex makebst again). With other words, how do I get my.bst
  from my.dbj? Or do I make the changes in bst directly? But what is than
  the function of the dbj?
 
  Wolfgang

 The .dbj file is a batch job that is run to generate the .bst file.  If
 you edit the .dbj file directly, just run tex against it to get the new
 .bst file.

 /Paul

Thanks, now I understood. But the dbj file is confusing for the unexperienced. 
For instance, where is the line which selects for article

Title. Journal
I have now 
Title Journal (without .)

Same with book

or for incollection:
In: editors (capital and :)
instead of 
in editors

Wolfgang


Re: bibtex my.bst

2006-06-26 Thread Richard Heck
Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:
 ...[T]he dbj file is confusing for the unexperienced. 
 For instance, where is the line which selects for article

 Title. Journal
 I have now 
 Title Journal (without .)

 Same with book

 or for incollection:
 In: editors (capital and :)
 instead of 
 in editors
There are limits to how much you can customize your bibliography style
by playing with the .dbj files: It only lets you select among what its
options permit. To do more customization, you may need to delve into the
generated .bst file itself. These changes are trivial if you know what
you're doing, but the language used in the .bst files takes a little
(ahem!) getting used to.

Richard



Re: bibtex my.bst

2006-06-26 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann

 
  but how do I make changes in the dbj file effective (I want to avoid
  running the latex makebst again). With other words, how do I get my.bst
  from my.dbj? Or do I make the changes in bst directly? But what is than
  the function of the dbj?
 
  Wolfgang

 The .dbj file is a batch job that is run to generate the .bst file.  If
 you edit the .dbj file directly, just run tex against it to get the new
 .bst file.

 /Paul

Thanks, now I understood. But the dbj file is confusing for the unexperienced. 
For instance, where is the line which selects for article

Title. Journal
I have now 
Title Journal (without .)

Same with book

or for incollection:
In: editors (capital and :)
instead of 
in editors

Wolfgang


Re: bibtex my.bst

2006-06-26 Thread Richard Heck
Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:
 ...[T]he dbj file is confusing for the unexperienced. 
 For instance, where is the line which selects for article

 Title. Journal
 I have now 
 Title Journal (without .)

 Same with book

 or for incollection:
 In: editors (capital and :)
 instead of 
 in editors
There are limits to how much you can customize your bibliography style
by playing with the .dbj files: It only lets you select among what its
options permit. To do more customization, you may need to delve into the
generated .bst file itself. These changes are trivial if you know what
you're doing, but the language used in the .bst files takes a little
(ahem!) getting used to.

Richard



Re: bibtex my.bst

2006-06-26 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann

> >
> > but how do I make changes in the dbj file effective (I want to avoid
> > running the latex makebst again). With other words, how do I get my.bst
> > from my.dbj? Or do I make the changes in bst directly? But what is than
> > the function of the dbj?
> >
> > Wolfgang
>
> The .dbj file is a batch job that is run to generate the .bst file.  If
> you edit the .dbj file directly, just run tex against it to get the new
> .bst file.
>
> /Paul

Thanks, now I understood. But the dbj file is confusing for the unexperienced. 
For instance, where is the line which selects for article

Title. Journal
I have now 
Title Journal (without .)

Same with book

or for incollection:
In: editors (capital and :)
instead of 
in editors

Wolfgang


Re: bibtex my.bst

2006-06-26 Thread Richard Heck
Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:
> ...[T]he dbj file is confusing for the unexperienced. 
> For instance, where is the line which selects for article
>
> Title. Journal
> I have now 
> Title Journal (without .)
>
> Same with book
>
> or for incollection:
> In: editors (capital and :)
> instead of 
> in editors
There are limits to how much you can customize your bibliography style
by playing with the .dbj files: It only lets you select among what its
options permit. To do more customization, you may need to delve into the
generated .bst file itself. These changes are trivial if you know what
you're doing, but the language used in the .bst files takes a little
(ahem!) getting used to.

Richard



Re: bibtex my.bst

2006-06-24 Thread Paul A. Rubin

Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:

Am Freitag, 23. Juni 2006 18:13 schrieb Paul A. Rubin:

Hi Paul (I am sure your mother was right..)

Disclaimer:  I have not done this myself (being an English-speaker)
(although the Brits might disagree).  Theoretically, if you run latex
against makebst.tex and choose merlin as the master file, you should be
asked what language to use. The default choice is merlin (which means
English), but you should answer german.mbs, spanish.mbs or whatever
language you need.  If you want English, the default should be
merlin.mbs and it should work.  (There is an english.mbs if you want to
try that.)

Does that help?


yes, it does, 

but how do I make changes in the dbj file effective (I want to avoid running 
the latex makebst again). With other words, how do I get my.bst from my.dbj?
Or do I make the changes in bst directly? But what is than the function of the 
dbj?


Wolfgang



The .dbj file is a batch job that is run to generate the .bst file.  If 
you edit the .dbj file directly, just run tex against it to get the new 
.bst file.


/Paul




Re: bibtex my.bst

2006-06-24 Thread Paul A. Rubin

Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:

Am Freitag, 23. Juni 2006 18:13 schrieb Paul A. Rubin:

Hi Paul (I am sure your mother was right..)

Disclaimer:  I have not done this myself (being an English-speaker)
(although the Brits might disagree).  Theoretically, if you run latex
against makebst.tex and choose merlin as the master file, you should be
asked what language to use. The default choice is merlin (which means
English), but you should answer german.mbs, spanish.mbs or whatever
language you need.  If you want English, the default should be
merlin.mbs and it should work.  (There is an english.mbs if you want to
try that.)

Does that help?


yes, it does, 

but how do I make changes in the dbj file effective (I want to avoid running 
the latex makebst again). With other words, how do I get my.bst from my.dbj?
Or do I make the changes in bst directly? But what is than the function of the 
dbj?


Wolfgang



The .dbj file is a batch job that is run to generate the .bst file.  If 
you edit the .dbj file directly, just run tex against it to get the new 
.bst file.


/Paul




Re: bibtex my.bst

2006-06-24 Thread Paul A. Rubin

Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:

Am Freitag, 23. Juni 2006 18:13 schrieb Paul A. Rubin:

Hi Paul (I am sure your mother was right..)

Disclaimer:  I have not done this myself (being an English-speaker)
(although the Brits might disagree).  Theoretically, if you run latex
against makebst.tex and choose merlin as the master file, you should be
asked what language to use. The default choice is merlin (which means
English), but you should answer german.mbs, spanish.mbs or whatever
language you need.  If you want English, the default should be
merlin.mbs and it should work.  (There is an english.mbs if you want to
try that.)

Does that help?


yes, it does, 

but how do I make changes in the dbj file effective (I want to avoid running 
the latex makebst again). With other words, how do I get my.bst from my.dbj?
Or do I make the changes in bst directly? But what is than the function of the 
dbj?


Wolfgang



The .dbj file is a batch job that is run to generate the .bst file.  If 
you edit the .dbj file directly, just run tex against it to get the new 
.bst file.


/Paul




Re: bibtex my.bst

2006-06-23 Thread Paul A. Rubin

Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:

After reconfiguring LyX, you should be able to select the .bst file from
the drop down list of choices.  Unless you are using a Springer style
file, there is no need for \usepackage{springer}.



Jean-Marc,


(Not unless my mother was kidding me all those years.)



I followed your advice (thanks) and got this error message:

LaTeX Error: File `babelbst.tex' not found.
 \input{babelbst.tex}
^^M
*** (cannot \read from terminal in nonstop modes)

Google tells me:
No need for creating babelbst.tex anymore. Changing language .mbs option
in makebst resulted in a working .bst file.

But how do I change language .mbs option in makebst?


Disclaimer:  I have not done this myself (being an English-speaker) 
(although the Brits might disagree).  Theoretically, if you run latex 
against makebst.tex and choose merlin as the master file, you should be 
asked what language to use. The default choice is merlin (which means 
English), but you should answer german.mbs, spanish.mbs or whatever 
language you need.  If you want English, the default should be 
merlin.mbs and it should work.  (There is an english.mbs if you want to 
try that.)


Does that help?

/Paul



In the .bst file is e.g.:

%% merlin.mbs  (with options: 
`babel,ay,nat,vonx,nm-rvx,jnrlst,keyxyr,dt-beg,yr-par,yrp-x,note-yr,jttl-rm,vnum-x,num-xser,jnm-x,btit-rm,bt-rm,bkpg-x,blk-com,com-blank,in-col,injnl,fin-bare,pp,ed,abr,ednx,mth-bare,ord,jabr,amper,xand')



Wolfgang






Re: bibtex my.bst

2006-06-23 Thread Paul A. Rubin

Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:

After reconfiguring LyX, you should be able to select the .bst file from
the drop down list of choices.  Unless you are using a Springer style
file, there is no need for \usepackage{springer}.



Jean-Marc,


(Not unless my mother was kidding me all those years.)



I followed your advice (thanks) and got this error message:

LaTeX Error: File `babelbst.tex' not found.
 \input{babelbst.tex}
^^M
*** (cannot \read from terminal in nonstop modes)

Google tells me:
No need for creating babelbst.tex anymore. Changing language .mbs option
in makebst resulted in a working .bst file.

But how do I change language .mbs option in makebst?


Disclaimer:  I have not done this myself (being an English-speaker) 
(although the Brits might disagree).  Theoretically, if you run latex 
against makebst.tex and choose merlin as the master file, you should be 
asked what language to use. The default choice is merlin (which means 
English), but you should answer german.mbs, spanish.mbs or whatever 
language you need.  If you want English, the default should be 
merlin.mbs and it should work.  (There is an english.mbs if you want to 
try that.)


Does that help?

/Paul



In the .bst file is e.g.:

%% merlin.mbs  (with options: 
`babel,ay,nat,vonx,nm-rvx,jnrlst,keyxyr,dt-beg,yr-par,yrp-x,note-yr,jttl-rm,vnum-x,num-xser,jnm-x,btit-rm,bt-rm,bkpg-x,blk-com,com-blank,in-col,injnl,fin-bare,pp,ed,abr,ednx,mth-bare,ord,jabr,amper,xand')



Wolfgang






Re: bibtex my.bst

2006-06-23 Thread Paul A. Rubin

Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:

After reconfiguring LyX, you should be able to select the .bst file from
the drop down list of choices.  Unless you are using a Springer style
file, there is no need for \usepackage{springer}.



Jean-Marc,


(Not unless my mother was kidding me all those years.)



I followed your advice (thanks) and got this error message:

LaTeX Error: File `babelbst.tex' not found.
 \input{babelbst.tex}
^^M
*** (cannot \read from terminal in nonstop modes)

Google tells me:
No need for creating babelbst.tex anymore. Changing language .mbs option
in makebst resulted in a working .bst file.

But how do I change language .mbs option in makebst?


Disclaimer:  I have not done this myself (being an English-speaker) 
(although the Brits might disagree).  Theoretically, if you run latex 
against makebst.tex and choose merlin as the master file, you should be 
asked what language to use. The default choice is merlin (which means 
English), but you should answer german.mbs, spanish.mbs or whatever 
language you need.  If you want English, the default should be 
merlin.mbs and it should work.  (There is an english.mbs if you want to 
try that.)


Does that help?

/Paul



In the .bst file is e.g.:

%% merlin.mbs  (with options: 
`babel,ay,nat,vonx,nm-rvx,jnrlst,keyxyr,dt-beg,yr-par,yrp-x,note-yr,jttl-rm,vnum-x,num-xser,jnm-x,btit-rm,bt-rm,bkpg-x,blk-com,com-blank,in-col,injnl,fin-bare,pp,ed,abr,ednx,mth-bare,ord,jabr,amper,xand')



Wolfgang






Re: bibtex my.bst

2006-06-22 Thread Paul A. Rubin

Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:
Springer publisher wants a certain style for references. I tried to make one 
by using 
latex makebst

It produced springer.dbj. springer .bst and springer.log  in my home.

Now I am confused how to proceed. 
The existing bst files are spread in 
/usr/local/texlive/..

/usr/share/texmf/..
/usr/Tex/texmf-dist/bibtex/..

Where should I transfer the produced springer.dbj. springer .bst and 
springer.log?


There's usually a localtexmf directory somewhere.  I'm not a TeXLive 
user, but I suspect it creates an environment variable showing the 
location of localtexmf.  My preference is to create a bibtex directory 
under localtexmf, then create subdirectories for each style I create 
(e.g., .../localtexmf/bibtex/springer).  I don't know if the log file is 
worth keeping, but the other two are.  Once you've placed them there, 
run texhash to update the TeX file database, and then I think you'll 
need to reconfigure LyX so that it sees the .bst file.


Sofar I used in the preamble
\usepackage[authoryear,comma]{natbib}
and
\bibpunct{}{}{}{a}{}{}

What is the procedure to get the new .bst working? 
\usepackage{springer}

after texhash?


After reconfiguring LyX, you should be able to select the .bst file from 
the drop down list of choices.  Unless you are using a Springer style 
file, there is no need for \usepackage{springer}.


\bibpunct determines the way the references are cited in the text?


Yes.

/Paul



Re: bibtex my.bst

2006-06-22 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann


 After reconfiguring LyX, you should be able to select the .bst file from
 the drop down list of choices.  Unless you are using a Springer style
 file, there is no need for \usepackage{springer}.


Jean-Marc,

I followed your advice (thanks) and got this error message:

LaTeX Error: File `babelbst.tex' not found.
 \input{babelbst.tex}
^^M
*** (cannot \read from terminal in nonstop modes)

Google tells me:
No need for creating babelbst.tex anymore. Changing language .mbs option
in makebst resulted in a working .bst file.

But how do I change language .mbs option in makebst?

In the .bst file is e.g.:

%% merlin.mbs  (with options: 
`babel,ay,nat,vonx,nm-rvx,jnrlst,keyxyr,dt-beg,yr-par,yrp-x,note-yr,jttl-rm,vnum-x,num-xser,jnm-x,btit-rm,bt-rm,bkpg-x,blk-com,com-blank,in-col,injnl,fin-bare,pp,ed,abr,ednx,mth-bare,ord,jabr,amper,xand')


Wolfgang


Re: bibtex my.bst

2006-06-22 Thread Paul A. Rubin

Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:
Springer publisher wants a certain style for references. I tried to make one 
by using 
latex makebst

It produced springer.dbj. springer .bst and springer.log  in my home.

Now I am confused how to proceed. 
The existing bst files are spread in 
/usr/local/texlive/..

/usr/share/texmf/..
/usr/Tex/texmf-dist/bibtex/..

Where should I transfer the produced springer.dbj. springer .bst and 
springer.log?


There's usually a localtexmf directory somewhere.  I'm not a TeXLive 
user, but I suspect it creates an environment variable showing the 
location of localtexmf.  My preference is to create a bibtex directory 
under localtexmf, then create subdirectories for each style I create 
(e.g., .../localtexmf/bibtex/springer).  I don't know if the log file is 
worth keeping, but the other two are.  Once you've placed them there, 
run texhash to update the TeX file database, and then I think you'll 
need to reconfigure LyX so that it sees the .bst file.


Sofar I used in the preamble
\usepackage[authoryear,comma]{natbib}
and
\bibpunct{}{}{}{a}{}{}

What is the procedure to get the new .bst working? 
\usepackage{springer}

after texhash?


After reconfiguring LyX, you should be able to select the .bst file from 
the drop down list of choices.  Unless you are using a Springer style 
file, there is no need for \usepackage{springer}.


\bibpunct determines the way the references are cited in the text?


Yes.

/Paul



Re: bibtex my.bst

2006-06-22 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann


 After reconfiguring LyX, you should be able to select the .bst file from
 the drop down list of choices.  Unless you are using a Springer style
 file, there is no need for \usepackage{springer}.


Jean-Marc,

I followed your advice (thanks) and got this error message:

LaTeX Error: File `babelbst.tex' not found.
 \input{babelbst.tex}
^^M
*** (cannot \read from terminal in nonstop modes)

Google tells me:
No need for creating babelbst.tex anymore. Changing language .mbs option
in makebst resulted in a working .bst file.

But how do I change language .mbs option in makebst?

In the .bst file is e.g.:

%% merlin.mbs  (with options: 
`babel,ay,nat,vonx,nm-rvx,jnrlst,keyxyr,dt-beg,yr-par,yrp-x,note-yr,jttl-rm,vnum-x,num-xser,jnm-x,btit-rm,bt-rm,bkpg-x,blk-com,com-blank,in-col,injnl,fin-bare,pp,ed,abr,ednx,mth-bare,ord,jabr,amper,xand')


Wolfgang


Re: bibtex my.bst

2006-06-22 Thread Paul A. Rubin

Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:
Springer publisher wants a certain style for references. I tried to make one 
by using 
latex makebst

It produced springer.dbj. springer .bst and springer.log  in my home.

Now I am confused how to proceed. 
The existing bst files are spread in 
/usr/local/texlive/..

/usr/share/texmf/..
/usr/Tex/texmf-dist/bibtex/..

Where should I transfer the produced springer.dbj. springer .bst and 
springer.log?


There's usually a localtexmf directory somewhere.  I'm not a TeXLive 
user, but I suspect it creates an environment variable showing the 
location of localtexmf.  My preference is to create a bibtex directory 
under localtexmf, then create subdirectories for each style I create 
(e.g., .../localtexmf/bibtex/springer).  I don't know if the log file is 
worth keeping, but the other two are.  Once you've placed them there, 
run texhash to update the TeX file database, and then I think you'll 
need to reconfigure LyX so that it sees the .bst file.


Sofar I used in the preamble
\usepackage[authoryear,comma]{natbib}
and
\bibpunct{}{}{}{a}{}{}

What is the procedure to get the new .bst working? 
\usepackage{springer}

after texhash?


After reconfiguring LyX, you should be able to select the .bst file from 
the drop down list of choices.  Unless you are using a Springer style 
file, there is no need for \usepackage{springer}.


\bibpunct determines the way the references are cited in the text?


Yes.

/Paul



Re: bibtex my.bst

2006-06-22 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann

>
> After reconfiguring LyX, you should be able to select the .bst file from
> the drop down list of choices.  Unless you are using a Springer style
> file, there is no need for \usepackage{springer}.


Jean-Marc,

I followed your advice (thanks) and got this error message:

LaTeX Error: File `babelbst.tex' not found.
 \input{babelbst.tex}
^^M
*** (cannot \read from terminal in nonstop modes)

Google tells me:
No need for creating babelbst.tex anymore. Changing language .mbs option
in makebst resulted in a working .bst file.

But how do I change language .mbs option in makebst?

In the .bst file is e.g.:

%% merlin.mbs  (with options: 
`babel,ay,nat,vonx,nm-rvx,jnrlst,keyxyr,dt-beg,yr-par,yrp-x,note-yr,jttl-rm,vnum-x,num-xser,jnm-x,btit-rm,bt-rm,bkpg-x,blk-com,com-blank,in-col,injnl,fin-bare,pp,ed,abr,ednx,mth-bare,ord,jabr,amper,xand')


Wolfgang