Re: importing material into figures
_/ On Tue 08 Nov 2005 17:32:49 GMT, [hagit lev] wrote : \_ Hi I have lots of material - such as Surfer maps, Origin graphs etc. and I wondered if I can import them directly to Lyx or need to export them first to jpeg and only then import ? Although this depends on various settings (e.g. platform, software), you may have to do a bunch of conversions first. I tend to favour the PNG for- mat, but have used the vector graphics format, namely EPS (encapsulated PostScript) where suitable, i.e. when data was not of a fixed size. For image conversions I recommend ImageMagick, although the GIMP would be good if you dislike the command line. It is also available for all popular platforms. Cause I tried to export surfer to EMF, but the result in the DVI file was a huge picture, and when I tried to minimize it (scaling it to only 20% in the figure dialog box) the quality was horrible. Oh, and I did read the intro and tutorial and went over almost all the other guides. nice humor:) Thanks Hagit Re-scaling of images, especially if the formats are atypical, leads to bad results. Graphical toolboxes handle resampling better, so I suggest you convert the images first. Hope it helps, Roy -- Roy S. Schestowitz http://Schestowitz.com
Re: importing material into figures
Am Dienstag, 8. November 2005 18:32 schrieb hagit lev: Hi I have lots of material - such as Surfer maps, Origin graphs etc. and I wondered if I can import them directly to Lyx or need to export them first to jpeg and only then import ? You can import any figure material directly if you have a tool that can convert it (from the command line) to a format that LyX knows of. You then need to define this tool as a converter. The Wiki and Customization guide tell you how this works. If such a tool is not available you need to export the figures. I recommend the following formats: EPS or PDF for vector graphics (i. e. some graphs) PNG for bitmap figures with a small number of colors (e. g. scanned material) JPEG for bitmals with a lot of colors (e. g. photos), but keep in mind that the JPEG format is lossy Cause I tried to export surfer to EMF, but the result in the DVI file was a huge picture, and when I tried to minimize it (scaling it to only 20% in the figure dialog box) the quality was horrible. In theory EMF would work well for vector graphics. In practice the EMF - EPS converters available on Linux don't work well enough (because EMF and WMF formats are no real file formats, but simply a recording of the windows API calls that are needed to produce the figure on screen or on printer). The situation might be better if you are on windows, I have been told that better converters are available on that OS. You might get good results with EMF if you specify such a tool as EMF - EPS converter. Georg
Re: importing material into figures
hagit lev wrote: Hi I have lots of material - such as Surfer maps, Origin graphs etc. and I wondered if I can import them directly to Lyx or need to export them first to jpeg and only then import ? Cause I tried to export surfer to EMF, but the result in the DVI file was a huge picture, and when I tried to minimize it (scaling it to only 20% in the figure dialog box) the quality was horrible. Oh, and I did read the intro and tutorial and went over almost all the other guides. nice humor:) Thanks Hagit There are two separate issues to deal with: importing graphics in a way that allows them to be correctly presented in the final document (DVI, PDF, whatever); and importing them in a way that allows them to be correctly displayed within the LyX editing window. The latter is not a prerequisite to the former -- it's entirely possible for LyX to have no idea how to display an image that appears correctly in the final output. In fact, I typically turn off image displays in LyX to save CPU cycles. You might have a look at the following Wiki page: http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/FiguresInLyX. As noted near the top, the final output can contain any image format that LaTeX can correctly ingest. The bulk of the Wiki page is devoted to questions of what formats LyX can display in the edit screen. You might also have a look at http://tex.loria.fr/graph-pack/epslatex.pdf, which discusses what formats LaTeX can process and how conversions to them occur. Paul
Re: importing material into figures
_/ On Tue 08 Nov 2005 17:32:49 GMT, [hagit lev] wrote : \_ Hi I have lots of material - such as Surfer maps, Origin graphs etc. and I wondered if I can import them directly to Lyx or need to export them first to jpeg and only then import ? Although this depends on various settings (e.g. platform, software), you may have to do a bunch of conversions first. I tend to favour the PNG for- mat, but have used the vector graphics format, namely EPS (encapsulated PostScript) where suitable, i.e. when data was not of a fixed size. For image conversions I recommend ImageMagick, although the GIMP would be good if you dislike the command line. It is also available for all popular platforms. Cause I tried to export surfer to EMF, but the result in the DVI file was a huge picture, and when I tried to minimize it (scaling it to only 20% in the figure dialog box) the quality was horrible. Oh, and I did read the intro and tutorial and went over almost all the other guides. nice humor:) Thanks Hagit Re-scaling of images, especially if the formats are atypical, leads to bad results. Graphical toolboxes handle resampling better, so I suggest you convert the images first. Hope it helps, Roy -- Roy S. Schestowitz http://Schestowitz.com
Re: importing material into figures
Am Dienstag, 8. November 2005 18:32 schrieb hagit lev: Hi I have lots of material - such as Surfer maps, Origin graphs etc. and I wondered if I can import them directly to Lyx or need to export them first to jpeg and only then import ? You can import any figure material directly if you have a tool that can convert it (from the command line) to a format that LyX knows of. You then need to define this tool as a converter. The Wiki and Customization guide tell you how this works. If such a tool is not available you need to export the figures. I recommend the following formats: EPS or PDF for vector graphics (i. e. some graphs) PNG for bitmap figures with a small number of colors (e. g. scanned material) JPEG for bitmals with a lot of colors (e. g. photos), but keep in mind that the JPEG format is lossy Cause I tried to export surfer to EMF, but the result in the DVI file was a huge picture, and when I tried to minimize it (scaling it to only 20% in the figure dialog box) the quality was horrible. In theory EMF would work well for vector graphics. In practice the EMF - EPS converters available on Linux don't work well enough (because EMF and WMF formats are no real file formats, but simply a recording of the windows API calls that are needed to produce the figure on screen or on printer). The situation might be better if you are on windows, I have been told that better converters are available on that OS. You might get good results with EMF if you specify such a tool as EMF - EPS converter. Georg
Re: importing material into figures
hagit lev wrote: Hi I have lots of material - such as Surfer maps, Origin graphs etc. and I wondered if I can import them directly to Lyx or need to export them first to jpeg and only then import ? Cause I tried to export surfer to EMF, but the result in the DVI file was a huge picture, and when I tried to minimize it (scaling it to only 20% in the figure dialog box) the quality was horrible. Oh, and I did read the intro and tutorial and went over almost all the other guides. nice humor:) Thanks Hagit There are two separate issues to deal with: importing graphics in a way that allows them to be correctly presented in the final document (DVI, PDF, whatever); and importing them in a way that allows them to be correctly displayed within the LyX editing window. The latter is not a prerequisite to the former -- it's entirely possible for LyX to have no idea how to display an image that appears correctly in the final output. In fact, I typically turn off image displays in LyX to save CPU cycles. You might have a look at the following Wiki page: http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/FiguresInLyX. As noted near the top, the final output can contain any image format that LaTeX can correctly ingest. The bulk of the Wiki page is devoted to questions of what formats LyX can display in the edit screen. You might also have a look at http://tex.loria.fr/graph-pack/epslatex.pdf, which discusses what formats LaTeX can process and how conversions to them occur. Paul
Re: importing material into figures
_/ On Tue 08 Nov 2005 17:32:49 GMT, [hagit lev] wrote : \_ Hi I have lots of material - such as Surfer maps, Origin graphs etc. and I wondered if I can import them directly to Lyx or need to export them first to jpeg and only then import ? Although this depends on various settings (e.g. platform, software), you may have to do a bunch of conversions first. I tend to favour the PNG for- mat, but have used the vector graphics format, namely EPS (encapsulated PostScript) where suitable, i.e. when data was not of a fixed size. For image conversions I recommend ImageMagick, although the GIMP would be good if you dislike the command line. It is also available for all popular platforms. Cause I tried to export surfer to EMF, but the result in the DVI file was a huge picture, and when I tried to minimize it (scaling it to only 20% in the figure dialog box) the quality was horrible. Oh, and I did read the intro and tutorial and went over almost all the other guides. nice humor:) Thanks Hagit Re-scaling of images, especially if the formats are atypical, leads to bad results. Graphical toolboxes handle resampling better, so I suggest you convert the images first. Hope it helps, Roy -- Roy S. Schestowitz http://Schestowitz.com
Re: importing material into figures
Am Dienstag, 8. November 2005 18:32 schrieb hagit lev: > Hi > I have lots of material - such as Surfer maps, Origin graphs etc. and I > wondered if I can import them directly to Lyx or need to export them > first to jpeg and only then import ? You can import any figure material directly if you have a tool that can convert it (from the command line) to a format that LyX knows of. You then need to define this tool as a converter. The Wiki and Customization guide tell you how this works. If such a tool is not available you need to export the figures. I recommend the following formats: EPS or PDF for vector graphics (i. e. some graphs) PNG for bitmap figures with a small number of colors (e. g. scanned material) JPEG for bitmals with a lot of colors (e. g. photos), but keep in mind that the JPEG format is lossy > Cause I tried to export surfer to EMF, but the result in the DVI file > was a huge picture, and when I tried to minimize it (scaling it to only > 20% in the figure dialog box) the quality was horrible. In theory EMF would work well for vector graphics. In practice the EMF -> EPS converters available on Linux don't work well enough (because EMF and WMF formats are no real file formats, but simply a recording of the windows API calls that are needed to produce the figure on screen or on printer). The situation might be better if you are on windows, I have been told that better converters are available on that OS. You might get good results with EMF if you specify such a tool as EMF -> EPS converter. Georg
Re: importing material into figures
hagit lev wrote: Hi I have lots of material - such as Surfer maps, Origin graphs etc. and I wondered if I can import them directly to Lyx or need to export them first to jpeg and only then import ? Cause I tried to export surfer to EMF, but the result in the DVI file was a huge picture, and when I tried to minimize it (scaling it to only 20% in the figure dialog box) the quality was horrible. Oh, and I did read the intro and tutorial and went over almost all the other guides. nice humor:) Thanks Hagit There are two separate issues to deal with: importing graphics in a way that allows them to be correctly presented in the final document (DVI, PDF, whatever); and importing them in a way that allows them to be correctly displayed within the LyX editing window. The latter is not a prerequisite to the former -- it's entirely possible for LyX to have no idea how to display an image that appears correctly in the final output. In fact, I typically turn off image displays in LyX to save CPU cycles. You might have a look at the following Wiki page: http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/FiguresInLyX. As noted near the top, the final output can contain any image format that LaTeX can correctly ingest. The bulk of the Wiki page is devoted to questions of what formats LyX can display in the edit screen. You might also have a look at http://tex.loria.fr/graph-pack/epslatex.pdf, which discusses what formats LaTeX can process and how conversions to them occur. Paul
